From jitr-owner Thu Feb 1 11:28:02 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id LAA15749 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:28:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout00.sul.t-online.com (mailout00.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.16]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id LAA15745 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:27:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from fwd01.sul.t-online.com by mailout00.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14OPOc-0006Rd-01; Thu, 01 Feb 2001 20:27:54 +0100 Received: from daheinze (520056542778-0001@[193.159.155.51]) by fwd01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14OPOG-0BxLqyC; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:27:32 +0100 Message-ID: <002201c08c85$78b5e720$339b9fc1@daheinze> From: daheinze@t-online.de (Daniel Heinze) To: Subject: To Eduard (no Sinead content) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:30:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01C08C8D.D9EC6700" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Sender: 520056542778-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C08C8D.D9EC6700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone, sorry to use the list for that, but I try to reach Eduard from Holland = for a couple of weeks and get no response from him - Eduard, if you read = this: I hope you're fine, and I'd love to get mail from you again - you = know how to reach me :-) To you and everyone on this list: Have a great day! Shalom, Daniel! ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C08C8D.D9EC6700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everyone,
 
sorry to use the list for that, but I = try to reach=20 Eduard from Holland for a couple of weeks and get no response from him - = Eduard,=20 if you read this: I hope you're fine, and I'd love to get mail from you = again -=20 you know how to reach me :-)
 
To you and everyone on this = list:
Have a great day!
 
Shalom,
Daniel!
------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C08C8D.D9EC6700-- From jitr-owner Thu Feb 1 19:29:38 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id TAA16498 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:29:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from snorkel.uits.indiana.edu (snorkel.uits.indiana.edu [129.79.6.186]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id TAA16494 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:29:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from massachusetts.exchange.indiana.edu (massachusetts.exchange.indiana.edu [129.79.6.159]) by snorkel.uits.indiana.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1/IUPO) with ESMTP id f123Tax25225 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 22:29:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by massachusetts.exchange.indiana.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 22:29:36 -0500 Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4869@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Freee cd offer to jitr members only -status Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 22:29:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi all, Ok, to all those that responded, I have been shipping out cd's throughout the week and the rest will go out tommorow morning. Thanks for letting me share my music with other Sinead fans! .I felt it was a way for me to give back as Sinead has been such an influence on me and being a member of JITR has been a way for me to keep current of Sinead and her current accomplishments and releases.Quite thrilling! GLad to know that there lots of very kind Sinead fans around!!! If I have forgotten anyone or if someone on the list would like to request one who hasnt, just email me, though please do so as soon as you can, because I only have a couple Cd's left. Peace to all, Denis Taaffe dtaaffe@indiana.edu http://www.dtguitar.com From jitr-owner Fri Feb 2 16:24:34 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id QAA17537 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:24:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f117.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.117]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id QAA17533 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:24:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:24:09 -0800 Received: from 212.98.11.177 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 03 Feb 2001 00:24:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.98.11.177] From: "Deniz Cebe" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: treasure to come Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 02:24:09 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Feb 2001 00:24:09.0689 (UTC) FILETIME=[A0547C90:01C08D77] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi - I just spoke to a friend who revealed to me that he has an article written by Sinéad on the Kurdish situtation in Turkey/Northern Iraq. It was published by the Sky magazine circa 1991. I'm having the piece faxed over from London in a few day's time and I'll hopefully scan it as soon as possible and upload on the site. I'm a HUGE fan of Sinéad's articles, you see.. Cheers, Deniz ____________________________________________________________ UNIVERSAL MOTHER >> http://dcebe.tripod.com/main.htm THE SINÉAD O'CONNOR SITE >> http://sinead-oconnor.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From jitr-owner Sat Feb 3 13:01:49 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id NAA18620 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:01:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f255.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.130]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id NAA18616 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:01:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:01:25 -0800 Received: from 213.161.129.67 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 03 Feb 2001 21:01:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.161.129.67] From: "Deniz Cebe" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: god Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:01:25 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Feb 2001 21:01:25.0512 (UTC) FILETIME=[78542080:01C08E24] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ "I used to think everyone was a bastard but it's not that at all. All of us are just babies that got lied to. When you say God to people they think you're crazy because the only God they know is lies they've been given. I do think the only answer for the world, and I wouldn't separate into area or country or any of those things, is love. People will have to let go and forgive each other." - Sinéad O'Connor ____________________________________________________________ UNIVERSAL MOTHER >> http://dcebe.tripod.com/main.htm THE SINÉAD O'CONNOR SITE >> http://sinead-oconnor.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From jitr-owner Sat Feb 3 13:34:52 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id NAA18674 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:34:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f309.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.184]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id NAA18670 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:34:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:34:28 -0800 Received: from 213.161.129.67 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 03 Feb 2001 21:34:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.161.129.67] From: "Deniz Cebe" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: everyman's an island Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:34:28 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Feb 2001 21:34:28.0319 (UTC) FILETIME=[162C76F0:01C08E29] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi - Searching on Napster I found many entries of the following song: Jah Wobble feat. Sinead O'Connor - Everyman's An Island Any ideas??? Deniz ____________________________________________________________ UNIVERSAL MOTHER >> http://dcebe.tripod.com/main.htm THE SINÉAD O'CONNOR SITE >> http://sinead-oconnor.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From jitr-owner Sat Feb 3 13:55:59 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id NAA18728 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:55:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id NAA18724 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:55:56 -0800 (PST) From: KasdanR@aol.com Received: from KasdanR@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id i.49.6f994c7 (4073); Sat, 3 Feb 2001 16:55:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <49.6f994c7.27add852@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 16:55:30 EST Subject: Re: god To: dcebe@hotmail.com, jitr@postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 128 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ In a message dated 02/03/2001 4:02:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, dcebe@hotmail.com writes: > I do > think the only answer for the world....is love. People will have to let go and > forgive each other." Thank you, Deniz! love,amyg From jitr-owner Sat Feb 3 17:00:59 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id RAA18879 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 17:00:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f67.hotmail.com [216.32.181.67]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id RAA18875 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 17:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 17:00:36 -0800 Received: from 194.134.215.23 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 01:00:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.134.215.23] From: "chantal le doux" To: dcebe@hotmail.com, jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: everyman's an island Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 01:00:35 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2001 01:00:36.0039 (UTC) FILETIME=[E1E8C570:01C08E45] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hey Deniz, I just downloaded that song after reading your message. The woman's voice that appears in/on it doesn't sound a bit like Sinead to me (American accent...I guess).But non the less I think the song is pretty cool so I've got no regret for downloading it ;-) It's mainly instrumental and has got this arab singer in it.(Abdul Ali Slimani(?) kind of) Shitty thing is that I wasn't thinking while choosing the download,picked the shortest and therefore the song's not to the end.....so perhaps there's a tiny chance Sinead appears in those last seconds but I doubt it. Greetings and good night Chantal >Hi - > >Searching on Napster I found many entries of the following song: > >Jah Wobble feat. Sinead O'Connor - Everyman's An Island > >Any ideas??? > >Deniz > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From jitr-owner Sat Feb 3 20:05:06 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id UAA19155 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:05:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from loom.online.ee (ns.online.ee [194.106.96.5]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with SMTP id UAA19151 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:05:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29833 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 06:05:04 +0200 Received: from hi1-solo-98.dyn.online.ee (HELO user) (213.180.14.98) by ns.online.ee with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 06:05:04 +0200 Message-ID: <004601c08e5f$df7814c0$620eb4d5@user> Reply-To: "PK" From: "PK" To: "jitr" References: Subject: Re: everyman's an island Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 06:05:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-4" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ hi, I have it on Jah Wobble's album Rising Above Bedlam (you must know it as it has Visions of You & Sweet Divinity on it as well). the woman who appears in Everyman's An Island is Margot Vynia. I also think it's a cool song, but I'm sure that Sinéad has got nothing to do with it. it seems to be just another Napster-wonder...... pk > Searching on Napster I found many entries of the following song: > Jah Wobble feat. Sinead O'Connor - Everyman's An Island > Any ideas??? > Deniz From jitr-owner Wed Feb 7 08:09:31 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id IAA23609 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:09:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from web1201.mail.yahoo.com (web1201.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.137]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with SMTP id IAA23605 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:09:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23028 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Feb 2001 16:09:37 -0000 Message-ID: <20010207160937.23027.qmail@web1201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.21.83.228] by web1201.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 07 Feb 2001 08:09:37 PST Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:09:37 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?kai=20chai?= Subject: latest sinead interview (red-eyed sinead pic) To: jitr@postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ taken from: http://www.showbizireland.com/news/december00/01-oconnor03.shtml 01-12-00 news Sinead O'Connor Interview... Sinead, your new album, "Faith And Courage", is the first album that you've had out in six years. Why did you wait so long to bring it out? S: Well, I had "Gospel Og" out about two years ago. I had my second child four years ago so I was pregnant for the year before that. I wasn't really working for three years after my daughter was born and also EMI closed down ten days after "Gospel Og" came out so I spent a couple of years looking for a record contract. Sinead O'Connor at a recent Dublin charity event Where did all the songs on the new album get written? Were they collaborations with people in different cities? S: Yeah. I was living in London, but a lot of the songs were written outside of London, like America and then the recordings were done all over the place too. Some of them were done in Dublin, London, Atlanta and some in France. How did you get to work with Dave Stewart? Through Brian Eno. I sent him a demo of "Emma's Song" and himself and Dave were together when they heard it and they both cried their eyes out when they heard it and really liked it. Brian told me this and I told him that I was a big Dave-fan and told Brian to get him to ring me. So, Dave rang me and offered to help me with the album, which was pretty amazing. Is it true that there's is no type of music that you won't try? S: Well, I think acid-house I wouldn't have much time for, but apart from that, not really, no. You have a song called "Daddy, I'm Fine" on the album. It seemed very autobiographical. Were you very determined growing up about pursuing your musical career? S: Yeah, it was all about trying to get laid. (Laughs). When you got to the level of success that you achieved was it everything that you perceived it to be? S: There are things about it that you find yourself doing that you didn't expect to be doing. But, when you do get to the top of reaching all that fame and fortune you do realise that there's an emptiness in it. It doesn't satisfy your soul in the way that you might be brought up to believe about fame. But, the actual process of making music and performing is always satisfying. Some of the other stuff can be soul-destroying. The first song on your album, "The Healing Room" is a very beautiful song. Are the lyrics trying to imply that the answer to our problems lie inside ourselves? S: Yeah. I have been studying the area of Psychic Studies in colleges all around London and have been training to become a psychic medium and also observing the training of others and people who work with the idea of souls. The song is really about the experiences that I've had at those colleges and the idea is that you use guided meditations, which are designed to take the person inside themselves to begin a relationship with the soul and to listen to what the soul is saying. The song is about going inside and searching through the soul and then half way through the song, it turns, and the soul is singing. People are talking to their souls all day long and sometimes a soul can be singing you a song. Do you believe that you can't be a songwriter without having travelled or lived your life in some way? S: I think that you can, but you're not going to have a lot of soul in what you do. I don't subscribe to this idea that you have to be miserable to be a good songwriter or artist or that you have to suffer. Although true artists are people that have suffered a lot, but hopefully grow through that into compassion and that's how you become compassionate. Another song on the album, "Lamb's Book Of Life", contains the lyric, "I know that I have given you many reasons not to listen to me especially as I have been angry, but if you knew me maybe you would understand me." What is that line about? S: Well, whenever I use the word, "I" on the record, it isn't always about me, it can be someone else or it can be my soul talking to me. Often it can be God talking in my songs, but in that song, it is Ireland speaking and saying that Ireland has done recent things.....like, bombing people, terrorism and knowing why people aren't listening to Her, but if you look at Her history then you might have some compassion toward Her. That's a song about Ireland in America seeking help, not just politically, but also spiritually. There's another song, "The State I'm In", by Scott Cutler and Ann Priestley. What do you like about that one? S: Well, That's a tricky one. It's one that my record company wanted me to do. It's not actually a song that I'd identify with hugely. I actually prefer their version of the song because she sings it with such passion and she wrote the song. To be honest it's on there as a favour to my record company. It slightly interferes with the events in the record because at that stage things are supposed to be getting a bit more hopeful. I think that they chose that song for me because they know the states that I've gone through and that it was a song for me. It's also a question of doing each other favours because if you work with a band you want to help them out and do some of the stuff that they want to do. S: How do you feel before releasing a record after working on it for a long period of time? Do you feel worried? S: It's the six weeks before a record comes out that's a disaster. It's like waiting for a baby. It's not really how people will react to it, it's just that it's out, like expelling a child from your body. Once the first track gets played on the radio you can relax again. I always listen to the albums a lot in the few weeks before they come out and then I never listen to them again. Why did you get involved with Jim Fitzpatrick? S: I guess it's the religious thing. He's someone who's very interested with religion and particularly paganism. I felt that he would put forward a sense of the soul again and that he could make a painting of a person that would be more about their soul than them. He is an expert in religion in Ireland as it was before Christianity. I wanted a lot of the vibe of that in the record as well. Are you going to play some gigs? S: 99% no. I have my daughter to look after at the moment so I don't really have the time. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From jitr-owner Wed Feb 7 08:20:23 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id IAA23659 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:20:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from web1204.mail.yahoo.com (web1204.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.140]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with SMTP id IAA23655 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:20:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 14645 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Feb 2001 16:20:31 -0000 Message-ID: <20010207162031.14644.qmail@web1204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.21.83.236] by web1204.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 07 Feb 2001 08:20:31 PST Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:20:31 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?kai=20chai?= Subject: sinead backs free instruments drive To: jitr@postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ taken from: http://www.takeoutmusic.com/articles/news_feed/nov/sinead_backs_drive_nov2000.htm SINEAD BACKS FREE INSTRUMENTS DRIVE Rock rebel SINEAD O'CONNOR has given her backing to a scheme that gives free music instruments to needy Irish children. The NO MAN'S WOMAN singer was the star guest at the launch of the IRISH RECORDED MUSIC ASSOCIATION's Music Bank celebration in Dublin - where it was revealed that 5,000 kids will have instruments by the end of the year (00). Sinead says, "I think it's a great idea. I hope it will continue for years to come. I'd also like them to pay for rap artists to come to Ireland from the UK and the US. The kids here are all big into rap music, but they don't know how to make records. They could teach them." Sinead is enjoying being back home in her native Dublin - and says she doesn't intend to tour again for the foreseeable future. She adds, "My daughter ROISIN is only four years old, so there's no way I'm going off around the world and leaving her behind." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From jitr-owner Wed Feb 7 09:06:36 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id JAA23735 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:06:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from obgyn.ucsf.edu (obgyn.ucsf.edu [128.218.183.84]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id JAA23731 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:06:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.218.183.63] (mburns.ucsf.edu [128.218.183.63]) by obgyn.ucsf.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f1751op29322 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 21:01:50 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:05:28 -0800 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Ana Fernandez Subject: Mom Sinead Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello everyone! >Are you going to play some gigs? >S: 99% no. I have my daughter to look after at the >moment so I don't really have the time. >"My >daughter ROISIN is only four years old, so there's no >way I'm going off around the world and leaving her >behind." Don't you think it's interesting how Sinead has changed as a mother?=20 When Jake was four she was at the peak of her carreer and going all=20 over the world. She obviously loves them both the same, but I see a=20 difference, especially because she's chosen to not tour at all to=20 take care of Roisin. That's a big decision for an artist such as=20 herself. I perfectly respect all the decisions she's made, and that's=20 why I'm interested in this shift. Do you think the change has to do=20 with: a) the fact that she can't take Roisin out of the country because of=20 the custody agreement with Waters b) because she is making an extra effort to raise her little girl=20 "right", because of her own bad experience with her mother c) because she's matured and realized that maybe children do need=20 stability and structure and to be close to both their parents,=20 especially at that early age. d) none of the above e) all of the above What do y'all think? Let's exchange opinions... Ana Ana Fern=E1ndez Lamothe Staff Research Associate UCSF Dept. of Ob/Gyn From jitr-owner Wed Feb 7 09:18:02 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id JAA23781 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:18:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f22.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.22]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id JAA23777 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:18:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:17:42 -0800 Received: from 212.98.11.149 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Feb 2001 17:17:42 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.98.11.149] From: "Deniz Cebe" To: fernandeza@obgyn.ucsf.edu, jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Mom Sinead Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 19:17:42 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Feb 2001 17:17:42.0534 (UTC) FILETIME=[E1433A60:01C09129] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ >From: Ana Fernandez >To: jitr@postmodern.com >Subject: Mom Sinead >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:05:28 -0800 Hi Ana - I think this has to do with the fact that Sinéad now has joint custody of Roisin, unlike during the Gospel Oak tour, when she had full custody and did a respectable amount of dates when her daughter was only 2. Cheers, Deniz ____________________________________________________________ UNIVERSAL MOTHER >> http://dcebe.tripod.com/main.htm THE SINÉAD O'CONNOR SITE >> http://sinead-oconnor.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From jitr-owner Wed Feb 7 11:15:40 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id LAA24030 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:15:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from fins.uits.indiana.edu (fins.uits.indiana.edu [129.79.6.185]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id LAA24026 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:15:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from massachusetts.exchange.indiana.edu (massachusetts.exchange.indiana.edu [129.79.6.159]) by fins.uits.indiana.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1/IUPO) with ESMTP id f17JFi526120 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:15:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by massachusetts.exchange.indiana.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:15:44 -0500 Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F489D@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: RE: Mom Sinead Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:15:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Well, my 2 cents, Sinead doesn't have to tour,does she? I mean perhaps she can play a few select dates like a t.v appearance or something similar. I would assume She will know when the timing is is right to tour, I am sure she will know when that is..But it si nice that she puts her family first, which any good parent would do no? Denis Taaffe dtaaffe@indiana.edu http://www.dtguitar.com -----Original Message----- From: Ana Fernandez [mailto:fernandeza@obgyn.ucsf.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 12:05 PM To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Mom Sinead Hello everyone! >Are you going to play some gigs? >S: 99% no. I have my daughter to look after From jitr-owner Wed Feb 7 11:42:18 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id LAA24122 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:42:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id LAA24118 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:42:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from newresearch.com ([216.221.224.2]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id LAA29803; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:37:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A81A3EB.5060607@newresearch.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 11:37:15 -0800 From: Dan Duncan Reply-To: dunc@newresearch.com Organization: New Research Group User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ana Fernandez CC: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Mom Sinead References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Perhaps the really revolutionary women are begining to see that raising children is the MOST revolutionary thing--the most creative thing--that a woman can do, and not just a way of creating valuable property for men. Sinead's song, "The had that rocks the cradle" and all her songs about motherhood and children point in this direction. "Univeral Mother" is less a collection of pretty songs than it is a revolutionary manifesto. Sinead has always struggled to walk her talk, and this is another brilliantly subtle example. And it would seem to be based on her sense of love for her children instead of slavery to the music marketplace. Hurrah, Sinead! Dan Duncan New Research Group "Different is not always better, but better is always different." Ana Fernandez wrote: > Hello everyone! > >> Are you going to play some gigs? >> S: 99% no. I have my daughter to look after at the >> moment so I don't really have the time. > > > >> "My >> daughter ROISIN is only four years old, so there's no >> way I'm going off around the world and leaving her >> behind." > > > Don't you think it's interesting how Sinead has changed as a mother? > When Jake was four she was at the peak of her carreer and going all over > the world. She obviously loves them both the same, but I see a > difference, especially because she's chosen to not tour at all to take > care of Roisin. That's a big decision for an artist such as herself. I > perfectly respect all the decisions she's made, and that's why I'm > interested in this shift. Do you think the change has to do with: > a) the fact that she can't take Roisin out of the country because of the > custody agreement with Waters > b) because she is making an extra effort to raise her little girl > "right", because of her own bad experience with her mother > c) because she's matured and realized that maybe children do need > stability and structure and to be close to both their parents, > especially at that early age. > d) none of the above > e) all of the above > > What do y'all think? > > Let's exchange opinions... > Ana > > Ana Fernández Lamothe > Staff Research Associate > UCSF Dept. of Ob/Gyn From jitr-owner Wed Feb 7 11:54:19 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id LAA24166 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:54:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f62.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.62]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id LAA24162 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:54:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:53:57 -0800 Received: from 212.98.11.149 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Feb 2001 19:53:57 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.98.11.149] From: "Deniz Cebe" To: dtaaffe@indiana.edu, jitr@postmodern.com Subject: RE: Mom Sinead Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 21:53:57 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Feb 2001 19:53:57.0836 (UTC) FILETIME=[B560C8C0:01C0913F] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ >From: "Taaffe, Denis G" >To: jitr@postmodern.com >Subject: RE: Mom Sinead >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:15:43 -0500 > Well, my 2 cents, Sinead doesn't have to tour,does she? I mean perhaps >she >can play a few select dates like a t.v appearance or something similar. Well, I have to agree with Denis here. I sense a bit of laziness of whatever in all of this, I'm ashamed to say! She could easily have done a few selected dates instead of going on a "promotional tour," couldn't she? Like the one she did last April in Dublin, she could've done a few dates in the US and UK, too. Then we might've heard how OTHER Faith and Courage songs sound like live. We might've had a few recordings... A few boots... If only... ;-)) Deniz ____________________________________________________________ UNIVERSAL MOTHER >> http://dcebe.tripod.com/main.htm THE SINÉAD O'CONNOR SITE >> http://sinead-oconnor.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From jitr-owner Wed Feb 7 11:58:37 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id LAA24204 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:58:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from fins.uits.indiana.edu (fins.uits.indiana.edu [129.79.6.185]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id LAA24198 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:58:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from massachusetts.exchange.indiana.edu (massachusetts.exchange.indiana.edu [129.79.6.159]) by fins.uits.indiana.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1/IUPO) with ESMTP id f17JwV522444; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:58:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by massachusetts.exchange.indiana.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:58:31 -0500 Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F48A1@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Deniz Cebe'" , "Taaffe, Denis G" , jitr@postmodern.com Subject: RE: Mom Sinead Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:58:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ hehe, no no not laziness at all. I don't think Sinead is lazy at all.It sounds rather that she made a decision and chose her prioprities and her family comes first, makes sense to me....8-) Denis Taaffe dtaaffe@indiana.edu http://www.dtguitar.com > Well, my 2 cents, Sinead doesn't have to tour,does she? I mean perhaps >she >can play a few select dates like a t.v appearance or something similar. Well, I have to agree From jitr-owner Wed Feb 7 12:02:18 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id MAA24242 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:02:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from obgyn.ucsf.edu (obgyn.ucsf.edu [128.218.183.84]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id MAA24238 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:02:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.218.183.63] (mburns.ucsf.edu [128.218.183.63]) by obgyn.ucsf.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f177vZp01462 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:57:35 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3A81A3EB.5060607@newresearch.com> References: <3A81A3EB.5060607@newresearch.com> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:01:13 -0800 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Ana Fernandez Subject: Re: Mom Sinead- Right On Duncan!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ >Perhaps the really revolutionary women are begining to see that=20 >raising children is the MOST revolutionary thing--the most creative=20 >thing--that a woman can do, and not just a way of creating valuable=20 >property for men. Duncan, I totally agree with you, and you put it very eloquently. Of=20 course people have the right to choose how to raise their children,=20 but I definitely think that if everyone had the opportunity to put=20 full effort into it, there would be a lot less screwed up people in=20 the world. Family planning has a lot to do with it. And it seems=20 like Sinead really wanted Roisin, and now is being the responsible=20 thing- taking care of her. I just love the woman! :) Ana Fern=E1ndez Lamothe Staff Research Associate UCSF Dept. of Ob/Gyn From jitr-owner Wed Feb 7 12:06:09 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id MAA24285 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:06:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com (imo-r09.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id MAA24281 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:06:06 -0800 (PST) From: Musiclover348@cs.com Received: from Musiclover348@cs.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id m.a6.fae7552 (3959) for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:05:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:05:37 EST Subject: Re: latest sinead interview (red-eyed sinead pic) To: jitr@postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 113 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Thank you, kai chi. Loving Sinead, CoolPolly ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Beauty of Sinead O'Connor http://members.tripod.com/sineadlover ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jitr-owner Wed Feb 7 12:54:32 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id MAA24362 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:54:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.sezampro.yu (mail2.sezampro.yu [194.106.188.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with SMTP id MAA24358 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:54:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from castle@b112.ppp-bg.sezampro.yu by SezamPro with SMTP on Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:54:03 +0100 Message-ID: <004901c09148$a14fac80$67d2fea9@djordjea> From: "ivana" To: , "Ana Fernandez" References: <3A81A3EB.5060607@newresearch.com> Subject: Re: Mom Sinead- Right On Duncan!! Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:57:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I think that female children needs mother more than male. And I believe that Sinead thinks that also. In my country mother is mother never mind if she is famous star she is mother first than everything else. Maybe Roisin means something special to Sinead. Special child?? Vana From jitr-owner Wed Feb 7 13:36:02 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id NAA24424 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:36:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f67.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.67]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id NAA24418 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:36:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:35:42 -0800 Received: from 212.98.11.150 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Feb 2001 21:35:42 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.98.11.150] From: "Deniz Cebe" To: dtaaffe@indiana.edu, jitr@postmodern.com Subject: RE: Mom Sinead Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 23:35:42 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Feb 2001 21:35:42.0580 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC16CB40:01C0914D] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ >From: "Taaffe, Denis G" >To: "'Deniz Cebe'" , "Taaffe, Denis G" >, jitr@postmodern.com >Subject: RE: Mom Sinead >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:58:30 -0500 >It sounds rather that she made a decision and chose her prioprities >and >her family comes first... Well, obviously -- that's not what I'm questioning. Here's the point I'm trying to make: After F&C came out, Sinéad spent a long time abroad; 2 months in the US, some time in Europe and 2 weeks in Australia. All of these was supposed to be a promotional tour. She was away from home, making appearances in TV shows and radio stations. Instead of these (or along with these) she could've done A FEW dates in those places. She also could've done some dates in the UK and Ireland, without having to leave her house (which she did more than 3 months ANYWAY). That's it. Deniz ____________________________________________________________ UNIVERSAL MOTHER >> http://dcebe.tripod.com/main.htm THE SINÉAD O'CONNOR SITE >> http://sinead-oconnor.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From jitr-owner Wed Feb 7 13:57:39 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id NAA24480 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:57:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f37.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.37]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id NAA24476 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:57:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:57:18 -0800 Received: from 212.98.11.150 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Feb 2001 21:57:18 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.98.11.150] From: "Deniz Cebe" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: News updated @ UM Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 23:57:18 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Feb 2001 21:57:18.0887 (UTC) FILETIME=[F0BF8B70:01C09150] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi - I have just finished updating the news section for Universal Mother. Please take a look and let me know whatchu think! Now coming the newspages for sinead-oconnor.com! Thank God I'm on holiday! ;-) Enjoy! Deniz ____________________________________________________________ UNIVERSAL MOTHER >> http://dcebe.tripod.com/main.htm THE SINÉAD O'CONNOR SITE >> http://sinead-oconnor.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From jitr-owner Thu Feb 8 06:14:38 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id GAA25387 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 06:14:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo-r17.mx.aol.com (imo-r17.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.71]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id GAA25383 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 06:14:35 -0800 (PST) From: Liambutts@aol.com Received: from Liambutts@aol.com by imo-r17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id n.82.69e480b (664); Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:13:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <82.69e480b.27b403a6@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:13:58 EST Subject: Re: Mom Sinead- Right On Duncan!! To: castle@sezampro.yu, jitr@postmodern.com, fernandeza@obgyn.ucsf.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 113 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Vana, I would have to disagree with the gender bias in which sex needs his or her mommy the most. It is equal for both. Infact, boys and girls require the same amount of everything. I would hope that Sinead does not think Roisin needs more love than her Jake. Molly From jitr-owner Thu Feb 8 07:57:11 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id HAA25514 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 07:57:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.31.37]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id HAA25510 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 07:57:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 07:56:51 -0800 Received: from 195.165.1.14 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 15:56:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [195.165.1.14] From: "Maura Tamminen" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Mom Sinead- Right On Duncan!! Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 17:56:50 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Feb 2001 15:56:51.0704 (UTC) FILETIME=[C05B0F80:01C091E7] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I´m with Molly on this one. Why would a boy need his mother any less than a girl? Would this mean also that being a mother to a boy would be less important than being a mother to a girl. And why would Sinéad think so? I don´t mean to disrespect your oppinion Vana, but it´s just that I strongly disagree. With all the violence in the world today it seems to me that the last thing men need is less mothering. (Which doesn´t mean that men cause all the violence, but I hope you get my point ... I´m trying to be very carefull in how I express my oppinion, as people seam to get quite easily offended on this list.) Why do we tell little boys that "boys don´t cry" ? Why do we think that men need less tendernes and love? Or mothering? It´s strange. Love (equally to all), Maura _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From jitr-owner Thu Feb 8 08:40:07 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id IAA25612 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 08:40:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from orion.finlay.edu.cu (root@[216.72.24.203]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id IAA25608 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 08:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mdaemon.finlay.edu.cu ([10.8.1.2]) by orion.finlay.edu.cu (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA04045 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:13:38 -0500 Received: from jennymc [20.4.5.20] by mdaemon.finlay.edu.cu [10.8.1.2] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.0.4.R) for ; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 11:42:37 -0500 Message-ID: <008901c0925a$af5d1980$14050414@jennymc> From: "Jenny Capote" To: Cc: References: <82.69e480b.27b403a6@aol.com> Subject: Re: Mom Sinead- Right On Duncan!! Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:39:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: jitr@postmodern.com X-Return-Path: jcapote@finlay.edu.cu X-MDRcpt-To: jitr@postmodern.com X-MDRemoteIP: 20.4.5.20 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I agree Molly, in my opinion you are definitively right, and I don't think that is what she meant. In fact I remember an interview I read, where she said something about Jake and her, it was approximately this "You can't separate the singer of the song nor the dancer of the dance" so I think that's quite clear. I hope you are fine, My love to all, thanks God JITR is alive again!!! Jenny From jitr-owner Thu Feb 8 08:49:42 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id IAA25654 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 08:49:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (imo-r10.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id IAA25650 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 08:49:40 -0800 (PST) From: JarOfJerry@aol.com Received: from JarOfJerry@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id m.bc.1014317c (7041) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:49:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:49:18 EST Subject: Re: Mom Sinead- Right On Duncan!! To: jitr@postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 66 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ In a message dated 2/8/01 11:07:26 AM, mauratamminen@hotmail.com writes: << Why do we tell little boys that "boys don=B4t cry" ? Why do we think that= =20 men=20 need less tendernes and love? Or mothering? It=B4s strange. >> Hey you know Sinead said something similar to what you're saying on her Off=20 The Record Interview....check it out on atlantic-records.com and search for=20 her name if you have realplayer or realaudio or something like that. I don't think that she feels her daughter needs more mothering than her son,= =20 i totally believe she loves them both equally but I agree w/those who said=20 that it's probably having a lot to do w/the custody situation and=20 everything.... Just my thoughts. Love to all, Chrys From jitr-owner Thu Feb 8 10:14:26 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id KAA25825 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:14:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from amsmta05-svc.chello.nl (mail-out.chello.nl [213.46.240.7]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id KAA25821 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:14:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ns ([212.187.28.46]) by amsmta05-svc.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license 85b07e7cd9378159aa6ecc9a5634d971) with SMTP id <20010208181559.THNA4656.amsmta05-svc@Ns> for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:15:59 +0100 Message-ID: <004c01c091fa$e2e0aac0$2e1cbbd4@chello.nl> From: "Mars-L" To: "Jitr-digest" Subject: Jealous clip Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:13:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Could someone upload the Jealous clip. Preferly without converting or whatever. I assume the file size is gigantic ? So I think only someone with Cable ot T1/T3 connection could do this without too much costs. Preferly to the FTP server, please mail me first. (I know it's offline for the moment, too busy with making CDVideos of my Disney DVDs......now I got kids I get to see them all ;-)) Greetz mars-L From jitr-owner Thu Feb 8 10:32:09 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id KAA25916 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:32:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id KAA25912 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:32:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from danielduncan (Tolga34@analogue.vip.best.com [204.156.141.189]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id KAA17106 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:30:39 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: From: "Daniel Duncan" To: Subject: RE: Mom Sinead- Right On Duncan!! Right on Vana!! Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:27:57 -0800 Message-ID: <000801c091fc$ddcc1720$bd8d9ccc@danielduncan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ It seems to me that Vana is speaking from a certain cultural point of view, one which I myself am only barely familiar. I have observed, however, that men in the Slavic countries are more babied that the women. Perhaps this is because so many men from these countries were killed in World War II. If this observation is true, then I think Vana is really right in what she has expressed. I myself was the oldest, and a male child, and my sisters always felt that my mother favored me. I did not feel this but my sisters did. I felt that my baby sister especially was favored, but she did not even feel this. Is it somehow instinctively harder for a mother to love her daughter than her son? Which mother? Which child? It's a silly question in a way, but there it is. Since we are all from varied cultures (and what a treasure that is!), we need to become more and more aware of our cultural point of view, of our cultural blind spots. This is getting into more child psych that I think any of us intends, but I just want to say that in general Vana is right in what she feels. Even in the U.S. in different groups, boy and girls have different expectations. Parents TEND to value them differently, no matter how much they may outwardly believe in equality. To PRACTICE impartiality is much harder that just believing in it. And in the U.S., only recently are we beginning to understand that such things as child abuse happen, "even in the best families," wherever they are. Sinead's music asks for us to consider the universality of man, but I think the only way we can begin to do this is by being honest about our differences and then striving to understand and overcome them. As our awareness grows, how do we begin to become even MORE interested in child caring? Perhaps a beginning is to remember our own childhood and promise that distant child that we will not allow the lies we were told to be repeated. Dan Duncan New Research Group "Different is not always better, but better is always different." -----Original Message----- From: owner-jitr@postmodern.com [mailto:owner-jitr@postmodern.com]On Behalf Of Maura Tamminen Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 7:57 AM To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Mom Sinead- Right On Duncan!! I´m with Molly on this one. Why would a boy need his mother any less than a girl? Would this mean also that being a mother to a boy would be less important than being a mother to a girl. And why would Sinéad think so? I don´t mean to disrespect your oppinion Vana, but it´s just that I strongly disagree. With all the violence in the world today it seems to me that the last thing men need is less mothering. (Which doesn´t mean that men cause all the violence, but I hope you get my point ... I´m trying to be very carefull in how I express my oppinion, as people seam to get quite easily offended on this list.) Why do we tell little boys that "boys don´t cry" ? Why do we think that men need less tendernes and love? Or mothering? It´s strange. Love (equally to all), Maura From jitr-owner Thu Feb 8 10:47:30 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id KAA25960 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:47:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id KAA25956 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:47:27 -0800 (PST) From: Kerris71@aol.com Received: from Kerris71@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id m.3c.73041e3 (25309) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:46:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3c.73041e3.27b4439f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:46:55 EST Subject: Re: jitr-digest V7 #16 To: jitr@postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3c.73041e3.27b4439f_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10000 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ --part1_3c.73041e3.27b4439f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Raising children is not the most amazing thing a woman can go,Lets get out of the dark ages.It took a lot of brave women to get that kind of thing away from women.Isn't about time we were saying bringing up children is a wonderful thing for anyone to do,regardless of their sex.However it might not be so amazing if you are stuck in a tower block living on the social etcLets put it into perspective.Besides there are lots of other things to do and maybe we should focus on them rather than emphasising how great kids are to raise afterall no wonder there are so many teenage mums about these days.Esp in the uk,where a child is jusr a passport to an idle life Kerry --part1_3c.73041e3.27b4439f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Raising children is not the most amazing thing a woman can go,Lets get out of
the dark ages.It took a lot of brave women to get that kind of thing away
from women.Isn't about time we were saying bringing up children is a
wonderful thing for anyone to do,regardless of their sex.However it might not
be so amazing if you are stuck in a tower block living on the social etcLets
put it into perspective.Besides there are lots of other things to do and
maybe we should focus on them rather than emphasising how great kids are to
raise afterall no wonder there are so many teenage mums about these days.Esp
in the uk,where a child is jusr a passport to an idle life

                             Kerry --part1_3c.73041e3.27b4439f_boundary-- From jitr-owner Thu Feb 8 11:54:23 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id LAA26110 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:54:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id LAA26106 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:54:21 -0800 (PST) From: JarOfJerry@aol.com Received: from JarOfJerry@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id g.bd.b919c4a (7042); Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:53:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:53:07 EST Subject: Re: RE: Mom Sinead- Right On Duncan!! Right on Vana!! To: dunc@newresearch.com, jitr@postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 66 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ That was very beautiful, thank you :) ~Chrys In a message dated 2/8/01 1:34:12 PM, dunc@newresearch.com writes: << It seems to me that Vana is speaking from a certain cultural point of view, one which I myself am only barely familiar. I have observed, however, that men in the Slavic countries are more babied that the women. Perhaps this is because so many men from these countries were killed in World War II. If this observation is true, then I think Vana is really right in what she has expressed. I myself was the oldest, and a male child, and my sisters always felt that my mother favored me. I did not feel this but my sisters did. I felt that my baby sister especially was favored, but she did not even feel this. Is it somehow instinctively harder for a mother to love her daughter than her son? Which mother? Which child? It's a silly question in a way, but there it is. Since we are all from varied cultures (and what a treasure that is!), we need to become more and more aware of our cultural point of view, of our cultural blind spots. This is getting into more child psych that I think any of us intends, but I just want to say that in general Vana is right in what she feels. Even in the U.S. in different groups, boy and girls have different expectations. Parents TEND to value them differently, no matter how much they may outwardly believe in equality. To PRACTICE impartiality is much harder that just believing in it. And in the U.S., only recently are we beginning to understand that such things as child abuse happen, "even in the best families," wherever they are. Sinead's music asks for us to consider the universality of man, but I think the only way we can begin to do this is by being honest about our differences and then striving to understand and overcome them. As our awareness grows, how do we begin to become even MORE interested in child caring? Perhaps a beginning is to remember our own childhood and promise that distant child that we will not allow the lies we were told to be repeated. Dan Duncan New Research Group "Different is not always better, but better is always different." >> From jitr-owner Thu Feb 8 13:14:34 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id NAA26264 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:14:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id NAA26260 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:14:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from danielduncan (infaz@analogue.vip.best.com [204.156.141.189]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id NAA10858; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:12:30 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: From: "Daniel Duncan" To: , Subject: Re: jitr-digest V7 #16 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:09:45 -0800 Message-ID: <000b01c09213$7a4bdd40$bd8d9ccc@danielduncan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3c.73041e3.27b4439f@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Your remark, I think proves my point. There is a lot of cultural bias in what we write. You, Kerry, would seem to be from the land of Margaret Thatcher where children are tolerated as an unpleasant consequence of sex, instead of celebrated as a gift from God. Of course you are not alone, for the same is true in the land of Ronald Reagan. I am almost tempted to generalize about British attitudes from your remark, but you are probably as untypical of British attitudes as I suspect I am of American attitudes. How do we get beyond our cultural attitudes? You were once a child. I was once a child. In so many ways we both are still children. Nothing sentimental like "children of God" since neither of us can know that. But we were each born, "crying God's name" and "have forgotten God's name," to borrow from Sinead's song, "All Babies." How to remember, that is the question. Jesus told the religious wise ones that in order to find the kingdom of God, they would have to become as little children. The best way I know to begin doing that is by talking to children, really talking to them. And listening to them. When was the last time you had a conversation with a small child. When was the last time you asked a child a serious question like, "What do you think about the sky?" Or, "Where do dreams come from?" The Marxist/Capitalist mind set has so twisted the natural world that forests are seen merely as a source for toilet paper and children as a ticket to the welfare state. There are worlds beyond this view and Sinead and the other poets are pointing to them. As for the dark ages you refer to, we are living in them now, when children are barely tolerated and trampled out of the way rather than being really respected. Every child that is born is a miracle, and we must never forget it. Dan Duncan New Research Group "Different is not always better, but better is always different. P.S. If more teenagers (and "grownups") really listened to children, I'll bet there would be fewer teenage pregnancies. -----Original Message----- From: owner-jitr@postmodern.com [mailto:owner-jitr@postmodern.com]On Behalf Of Kerris71@aol.com Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 10:47 AM To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: jitr-digest V7 #16 Raising children is not the most amazing thing a woman can go,Lets get out of the dark ages.It took a lot of brave women to get that kind of thing away from women.Isn't about time we were saying bringing up children is a wonderful thing for anyone to do,regardless of their sex.However it might not be so amazing if you are stuck in a tower block living on the social etcLets put it into perspective.Besides there are lots of other things to do and maybe we should focus on them rather than emphasising how great kids are to raise afterall no wonder there are so many teenage mums about these days.Esp in the uk,where a child is jusr a passport to an idle life Kerry From jitr-owner Thu Feb 8 16:51:30 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id QAA26490 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:51:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.48]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id QAA26486 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:51:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from robertsc.ride.ri.net ([12.79.100.157]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with ESMTP id <20010209005110.GQBQ19355.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@robertsc.ride.ri.net>; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 00:51:10 +0000 From: "gordon" To: , Cc: , <-U2_Rocks-@yahoogroups.com>, Subject: RED HOT + BLUE VHS MINT Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:50:20 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010209005110.GQBQ19355.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@robertsc.ride.ri.net> Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1408102143 Title of item: RED VHS U2 Erasure Sinead O'Connor Eurythmics Auction Ends on: Saturday, Feb 10, 2001 at 20:03:14 PST From jitr-owner Thu Feb 8 20:48:28 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id UAA26844 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:48:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.6]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id UAA26840 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:48:25 -0800 (PST) From: CranAngel@aol.com Received: from CranAngel@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id m.e3.102892ce (4199) for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:47:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:47:53 EST Subject: Re: Mom Sinead To: jitr@postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 134 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ In a message dated 2/7/01 12:08:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, fernandeza@obgyn.ucsf.edu writes: << a) the fact that she can't take Roisin out of the country because of the custody agreement with Waters >> It's already been stated publicly, this is the reason! She said so in an interview that was posted on this list!!! It's also the reason she is living in Dublin. Otherwise she would be living in London and touring a lot more. From jitr-owner Sat Feb 10 03:17:28 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id DAA28589 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 03:17:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f101.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.101]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id DAA28585 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 03:17:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 03:17:11 -0800 Received: from 212.98.11.53 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:17:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.98.11.53] From: "Deniz Cebe" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Fwd: Sinead's humble turn Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:17:10 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Feb 2001 11:17:11.0099 (UTC) FILETIME=[032970B0:01C09353] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ >From: "Andrew Basquille" >To: < dcebe@hotmail.com> >Subject: Sinead's humble turn >Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 01:21:19 -0000 > >Friday 9th February 2001 >Sinead sang three folk songs (unaccompanied) at a benefit concert in Dalkey >Town Hall Co. Dublin attended by a capacity crowd of about 200 parents and >friends in aid of her daughter Roisin's school. Didn't recognise the first >or third, but the second was an old Dublin song called Peggy Gordon, which >she said she had learned only that day. According to the programme she was >to be top of the bill, but she appeared mid-way through the second half. >She sang beautifully. It was a real privelege to hear her in such in >intimate setting. My 14 year old daughter was enthralled. Needless to say >the audience reception was rapturous. Unforgettable. >Andrew Basquille > ____________________________________________________________ UNIVERSAL MOTHER >> http://dcebe.tripod.com/main.htm THE SINÉAD O'CONNOR SITE >> http://sinead-oconnor.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From jitr-owner Sun Feb 11 16:01:47 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id QAA00493 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:01:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu (cu28531@sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.136]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id QAA00489 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:01:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA10267 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:01:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:01:59 -0500 (EST) From: Ben Griffin Adams To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Jealous enhanced - got it! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I finally managed to get a copy of the Jealous enhanced CD. (AmyG: there's one more at the Union Square Virgin for only $8!) They cut the blips off the end of Full Circle on this version, which is nice (so now collectors need to have two versions--the "error" Full Circle version and the one without the error noises at the end!) I wasn't too impressed with the video, but then again, I don't think the song is that great either. I really think she and her record company are trying too hard to appeal to the general public. I think What Doesn't Belong would go over really well as a single. It's a very catchy tune and would stick out in peoples' minds much more than Jealous. I do hope State I'm In will be a single; I think it will be the most successful one on the album. Granted it doesn't really fit in on the album too well, but it should at least be milked for all it's worth by having it released as a single. Ben From jitr-owner Sun Feb 11 23:12:34 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id XAA00937 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:12:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from web1203.mail.yahoo.com (web1203.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.139]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with SMTP id XAA00933 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:12:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27380 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Feb 2001 07:12:48 -0000 Message-ID: <20010212071248.27379.qmail@web1203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.21.83.138] by web1203.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:12:48 PST Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:12:48 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?kai=20chai?= Subject: new benefit album To: jitr@postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Ananova: Irish stars join fight against famine (2-7-2001) >From Ananova: Irish stars join fight against famine The Chieftains, Christy Moore, Donal Lunny, Altan, Dolores Keane, Sinead Lohan, Mary Black and Maire Brennan are among the top folk artists contributing to an album being made to help fight famine. They join The Corrs, Sinead O'Connor, The Cranberries and U2 for the Fields Of Hope compilation being released by Dara to raise money for the Street Children's Repatriation Project in Zimbabwe. The project is the brainchild of Gorta, an organisation aiming to help the Third World feed themselves. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From jitr-owner Sun Feb 11 23:15:47 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id XAA00973 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:15:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from web1201.mail.yahoo.com (web1201.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.137]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with SMTP id XAA00969 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:15:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 8528 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Feb 2001 07:16:03 -0000 Message-ID: <20010212071603.8527.qmail@web1201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.21.83.138] by web1201.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:16:02 PST Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:16:02 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?kai=20chai?= Subject: it's ode to billie joe To: jitr@postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ VARIOUS ARTISTS FIELDS OF HOPE :: Dara 2000 65 mins Tracklisting: Dolores Keane – Storm in My Heart - Altan – Castles in The Air - Van Morrison & The Chieftans – Irish Heartbeat - Sinead Lohan – Everything Around Me is Changing - Mary Black – Ae Fond Kiss - David Gray – Lead Me Upstairs - U2 – Staring at The Sun - Sinead O’Connor – Ode To Billie Joe - Maire Brennan – Ceolfidh Mé - Christy Moore – Lovely Young One - Dónal Lunny & Coolfin – Butlers - The Cranberries – Dreaming My Dreams - Jack L – Rooftop Lullabye - The Corrs - Runaway Although it goes without saying that the thinking behind it was a truly admirable demonstration of how people power in a needy hour could really save lives, the Band Aid single ‘Do They Know It’s Christmas?(Feed The World)’ will always bring a bad taste to many mouths. Apart from giving rise to countless other cheesy charity tunes featuring duets from ‘well intended’ faltering stars who linked arms while grinning inanely (you know who they are!), the music itself amounted to little more than second rate, lame pop. Several years on from this we have learnt the hard way that like puppies, benefit albums are not just for Christmas, but for life! Here’s where this album comes in. There are no ill-fitting duets or sing-along anthems here, but quite a few rare tracks which showcase some of Ireland’s most established songwriters and musicians with a predominantly traditional and folk vibe. Dolores Keane’s distinctive sean nós touch to an airy ‘Storm in My Heart’ complements the low-key acoustic touches of Sinead Lohan’s ‘Everything Around Me is Changing’. Meanwhile U2’s live acoustic version of ‘Staring at The Sun’ proves that they can still churn out a striking tune without the aid of their arsenal of electronic gadgetry, just as David Gray’s sauntering sonnet ‘Lead Me Upstairs’ finds him in flying form on front of an adoring audience. Doing more than their bit to compensate for The Corr’s uninspired, albeit well delivered live rendition of ‘Runaway’, Sinead O’Connor offers her sparse, soulful recording of ‘Ode To Billie Joe’ while Kildare crooner jack L does his Scott Walker thing on the wide screen ‘Rooftop Lullabye’. More importantly, the distressing fact that 40,000 children die every day from lack of food is a problem that really shouldn’t be forgotten until the next Christmas compilation is rolled out. Buy this record, not just because you feel you should, but because it is worth the money. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From jitr-owner Mon Feb 12 03:23:35 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id DAA01223 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 03:23:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f78.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.78]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id DAA01219 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 03:23:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 03:23:20 -0800 Received: from 212.98.11.113 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:23:20 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.98.11.113] From: "Deniz Cebe" To: secretmanta@yahoo.com, jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: it's ode to billie joe Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:23:20 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Feb 2001 11:23:20.0303 (UTC) FILETIME=[340CFFF0:01C094E6] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Great news, Sinéad is really THE girl!! ;-) I just wish she had spent some time recording something new -- you know she gave a released song to the Tibetan charity, too. I think it would be great if she did another traditional. I seriously think this is what she should do in the future because I'm always amazed by her traditinal renditions and it seems like she feels so "right" when singing them. Deniz >From: kai chai >To: jitr@postmodern.com >Subject: it's ode to billie joe >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:16:02 -0800 (PST) ____________________________________________________________ UNIVERSAL MOTHER >> http://dcebe.tripod.com/main.htm THE SINÉAD O'CONNOR SITE >> http://sinead-oconnor.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From jitr-owner Mon Feb 12 03:55:19 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id DAA01271 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 03:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from Larigot.ucd.ie (student.ucd.ie [137.43.1.22]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id DAA01267 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 03:55:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from a99bf25b (daedg6b5pc3.ucd.ie [137.43.193.142]) by Larigot.ucd.ie (PMDF V6.0-24 #46903) with ESMTP id <0G8N00KPZ7RNQO@student.ucd.ie> for jitr@postmodern.com; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:54:59 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:54:59 +0000 From: Julia Maria Seemann Subject: Re: it's ode to billie joe In-reply-to: To: jitr@postmodern.com Message-id: <3A87CF13.5733.70E64C@localhost> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I want more healing songs!!! :-) Julja I seriously think this is what she should do in the future because I'm always amazed by her traditinal renditions and it seems like she feels so "right" when singing them. Deniz >From: kai chai >To: jitr@postmodern.com >Subject: it's ode to billie joe >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:16:02 -0800 (PST) ____________________________________________________________ UNIVERSAL MOTHER >> http://dcebe.tripod.com/main.htm THE SIN=C9AD O'CONNOR SITE >> http://sinead-oconnor.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From jitr-owner Mon Feb 12 04:52:13 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id EAA01345 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 04:52:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f151.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.151]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id EAA01341 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 04:52:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 04:51:58 -0800 Received: from 212.213.178.9 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:51:57 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.213.178.9] From: "Maura Tamminen" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Liam Fay quote Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:51:57 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Feb 2001 12:51:58.0037 (UTC) FILETIME=[95AAD050:01C094F2] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ "Sinéad O´Connor is like a stopped clock. She´s right twice a day." - writer Liam Fay _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From jitr-owner Mon Feb 12 08:06:04 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id IAA01568 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:06:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from orion.finlay.edu.cu (root@[216.72.24.203]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id IAA01564 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:05:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mdaemon.finlay.edu.cu ([10.8.1.2]) by orion.finlay.edu.cu (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA04739 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:38:44 -0500 Received: from jennymc [20.4.5.20] by mdaemon.finlay.edu.cu [10.8.1.2] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.0.4.R) for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:07:38 -0500 Message-ID: <005001c0957a$7f17f880$14050414@jennymc> From: "Jenny Capote" To: Subject: Hi people!!! Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:04:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004D_01C09548.316A2E00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: jitr@postmodern.com X-Return-Path: jcapote@finlay.edu.cu X-MDRcpt-To: jitr@postmodern.com X-MDRemoteIP: 20.4.5.20 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C09548.316A2E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, please forgive me for using the list for this, but I consider you = all my friends and I need help, I need that anyone who has access to = Internet, finds me information on any sites where is information on = literature contests, ways for publishing books, or any related subject = (both Spanish and English language), I wrote a novel and I really need = to publish it, I do not write for money, but the fact is that it is = already written and I need money. 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Hey, please forgive me for using the = list for this,=20 but I consider you all my friends and I need help, I need that = anyone who=20 has access to Internet, finds me information on any sites where is = information=20 on literature contests, ways for publishing books, or any related = subject (both=20 Spanish and English language), I wrote a novel and I really need to = publish it,=20 I do not write for money, but the fact is that it is already written and = I need=20 money. I want to reconcile with my baby's father and my family is = strongly=20 against that, just because they think he is gay (who cares but me?), and = the=20 funny and hard part is that he is not after all, but no one believes = that but me=20 and the ones who really know him. I have chaged a lot my points of view = since=20 that forum we had, remember? and I thank you for that. In a few words, = my family=20 is making my life impossible, it is not that they don't love me it is = just that=20 they think the are doing the right thing, because after all, I live with = them,=20 and they live under that hard and unfair codes they think right, so I = need to=20 move, that is the only way we can possibly go on with our lives and be = happy, so=20 please give me a hand, pals, I will be eternally thankfull to all of = you, please=20 send any information to my personal e-mail address=20 [jcapote@finlay.edu.cu].
 
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------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C09548.316A2E00-- From jitr-owner Mon Feb 12 08:42:12 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id IAA01616 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:42:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id IAA01612 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:42:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from newresearch.com ([216.221.224.27]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id IAA25847; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:40:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A8811E0.6@newresearch.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:40:00 -0800 From: Dan Duncan Reply-To: dunc@newresearch.com Organization: New Research Group User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maura Tamminen CC: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Liam Fay quote References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Those who get their time from a clock instead of from the sun and moon are slaves to a public fiction. Those who depend on a clock to be on time, will die the same way. God help them! Maura Tamminen wrote: > "Sinéad O´Connor is like a stopped clock. She´s right twice a day." > - writer Liam Fay > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From jitr-owner Mon Feb 12 13:35:49 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id NAA02093 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:35:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f172.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.172]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id NAA02086 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:35:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:35:32 -0800 Received: from 172.160.144.92 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:35:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [172.160.144.92] From: "doria sekfali" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: behind the music Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:35:31 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Feb 2001 21:35:32.0174 (UTC) FILETIME=[B9F3B6E0:01C0953B] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ you can see again in Behind The Music (VH1 europe) Sinéad O'CONNOR, today at 10pm UK. bye, dORIA _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From jitr-owner Mon Feb 12 17:30:49 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id RAA02639 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:30:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id RAA02635 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:30:42 -0800 (PST) From: Gogobooty3@aol.com Received: from Gogobooty3@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id m.e0.10495b95 (5726) for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:30:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:30:24 EST Subject: recent purchase To: jitr@postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 65 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ i received a bunch of borders gift cards for christmas and went to spend em this weekend. for those who are interested, the cd "SINEAD O'CONNOR" was available for $11.99. this is the compilation cd with a rather more unusual "best of " type playlist that has been posted here before. it is made in holland but not priced like an import. it was the least expensive of 3 cds i bought. i dunno how widely available this cd is, so i thought i'd mention it in case anyone is looking for it. for those who want to buy sade's "lovers rock" they have it at borders with a free promotional video. you have to ask for it...i just HAPPENED to notice the box behind the counter on a shelf. this video is for the song "by your side" i'm guessing, since i haven't watched it yet. borders did a similar promotion a few years ago when i bought "gospel oak" there. that came with the "this is to mother you" video and a couple other songs from her concert video. i would much prefer to buy my music from a small independant store so i don't want to appeart overly promotional of borders. just lettin people know this stuff is available. cheers--- claudia From jitr-owner Tue Feb 13 01:12:06 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id BAA03268 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 01:12:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f276.hotmail.com [216.32.180.130]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id BAA03264 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 01:12:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 01:11:52 -0800 Received: from 193.133.137.241 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:11:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [193.133.137.241] From: "ninth wave" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: P J Harvey ... Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:11:52 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Feb 2001 09:11:52.0518 (UTC) FILETIME=[00FA4660:01C0959D] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ ...played an absolutely blinding set last night at the Shepherd's Bush Empire here in London. I left my notes at home so the review proper will follow later. For those of you who are about to see her on her European/American legs of the tour - you will not be disappointed. She played all but two tracks from her latest CD - We Float and Mess We're In (two of my favourites, but after such a thrilling night I won't quibble ;-)) Her vocals are out of this world - she makes it look so easy!!!!!!!! All the best Mandy _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From jitr-owner Tue Feb 13 09:10:54 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id JAA03671 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:10:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from amsmta06-svc.chello.nl (mail-out.chello.nl [213.46.240.7]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id JAA03667 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:10:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ns ([212.187.28.46]) by amsmta06-svc.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license a3a2682fa4a9abbd0742aa9624d87426) with SMTP id <20010213171140.DWOB27171.amsmta06-svc@Ns> for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:11:40 +0100 Message-ID: <002401c095df$d5716d00$2e1cbbd4@chello.nl> From: "Mars-L" To: "Jitr-digest" Subject: I got the ASF-video files ;-))))) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:10:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, I found a way to really download and save the video-clips (in asf-format) on www.launch.com So I downloaded the 300kb/s asf-versions which are of the best quality. when they're on your harddisc they don't slowdown and can even be played full-screen in a pretty good quality. They're on the FTP-site. (I know; it's too often down lately....sorry) But I got one problem....as some of you know I am busy making a VCD (for DVD players, VCD-players, CD-i players or simply on your PC) But I cannot find any tool to convert the ASF-file to MPEG1 or even to AVI. So if someone of you knows a tool to do this job (No TMPGenc doesn't do the job anymore and the older version doesn't do it right) in that case I'll send you a VCD in trade......(NTSC or PAL) There seems to excist a tool called "asf2avi" (about 80kb) but Microsoft is shutting down all sites that have this tool for download, and so after a search of atleast 10 hours I am giving up. Besides; if someone is able to convert her clips (from video) to AVI or better MPEG1 in a very good quality (preferly from the official promo-videotapes, Eduard??)......please mail me; I am able to digitize them to the right (!!!) VCD format. (most circulating VCD's are in the wrong format XVCD). Besides trading I am even willing to pay for the files. I wanna make the first Sinead Video-"B00tleg" ;-)))) Of Prince (right here I go again) lots of VCD's and even complete concerts are circulating....so it's time for a sinead one. (For reasons I prefer VCD about SVCD and even more above DivX) I know it takes a lot of time to convert, so mail me for more info before you start making your first one. Greetz Mars-L From jitr-owner Tue Feb 13 14:22:35 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id OAA03981 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:22:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.netspace.com.mx (qmailr@main.netspace.com.mx [200.38.249.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with SMTP id OAA03977 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:22:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200102132222.OAA03977@server.postmodern.com> Received: (qmail 10890 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2001 22:22:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?200.53.172.236?) (200.53.172.236) by main.netspace.com.mx with SMTP; 13 Feb 2001 22:22:52 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:22:41 -0600 Subject: Re: I got the ASF-video files ;-))))) From: "wstudio" To: "Mars-L" CC: jitr@postmodern.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi Marcel, i use my computer PowerMacG4 and i can convert all videos VHS to format AVI, MPEG, DivX, MOV (quicktime) and VCD, but i have never seen the ASF-file, so that i'll try with this if you send me one, may be i'll find any tool on my Mac. Anyway msg me. Johnny from Mexico ---------- >From: "Mars-L" >To: "Jitr-digest" >Subject: I got the ASF-video files ;-))))) >Date: mart., 13 febr 2001 11:10 am > > Hello, > > I found a way to really download and save the video-clips (in asf-format) on > www.launch.com So I downloaded the 300kb/s asf-versions which are of the > best quality. when they're on your harddisc they don't slowdown and can even > be played full-screen in a pretty good quality. > They're on the FTP-site. (I know; it's too often down lately....sorry) > > But I got one problem....as some of you know I am busy making a VCD (for DVD > players, VCD-players, CD-i players or simply on your PC) But I cannot find > any tool to convert the ASF-file to MPEG1 or even to AVI. So if someone of > you knows a tool to do this job (No TMPGenc doesn't do the job anymore and > the older version doesn't do it right) in that case I'll send you a VCD in > trade......(NTSC or PAL) > > There seems to excist a tool called "asf2avi" (about 80kb) but Microsoft is > shutting down all sites that have this tool for download, and so after a > search of atleast 10 hours I am giving up. > > Besides; if someone is able to convert her clips (from video) to AVI or > better MPEG1 in a very good quality (preferly from the official > promo-videotapes, Eduard??)......please mail me; I am able to digitize them > to the right (!!!) VCD format. (most circulating VCD's are in the wrong > format XVCD). > Besides trading I am even willing to pay for the files. > I wanna make the first Sinead Video-"B00tleg" ;-)))) Of Prince (right here I > go again) lots of VCD's and even complete concerts are circulating....so > it's time for a sinead one. (For reasons I prefer VCD about SVCD and even > more above DivX) > > I know it takes a lot of time to convert, so mail me for more info before > you start making your first one. > > Greetz > Mars-L > > From jitr-owner Wed Feb 14 03:07:52 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id DAA04773 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 03:07:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f127.hotmail.com [216.32.181.127]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id DAA04769 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 03:07:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 03:07:39 -0800 Received: from 193.133.137.241 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:07:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [193.133.137.241] From: "ninth wave" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: P J Harvey review Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:07:39 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Feb 2001 11:07:39.0520 (UTC) FILETIME=[58206800:01C09676] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ P J Harvey – Shepherds Bush Empire, London, 12 February 2001 After a two-year hiatus, Polly Jean Harvey’s return to the live arena was a spectacularly stylish one. Wearing a sheer, gold knee-length dress and knee-length black high-heeled boots, she took hold of the microphone and launched into the fabulous recent b-side to the first single from her new album, “66 Promises”. The first thing you notice is her crystal clear voice and its ability to soar to the rafters of this gilt and red velvet theatre. She has a remarkable self-assuredness, underscored by the prowling, the swaying, and in the way she visibly loses herself inside the music and the characters of her dramatic songs. The effect is mesmerising and the audience lapped it up. These three headline gigs have been sold out for a while and it’s easy to see why. “Big Exit” came next – its beats allowing Polly to camp it up as she came on like a flamenco dancer in gold lame, tapping her stilettoed feet furiously in time to the drums. Next up was “Good Fortune” and suddenly we were transported to CBGBs. “This Wicked Tongue”, “One Line” and, second single, “A Place Called Home” all followed and you realise all over again just how good the songs from her current, “Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea” truly are – all sung with seemingly effortless beauty. Polly then plundered her back catalogue and treated us to the playful “Man-Size” and the gorgeous “Angelene”. A miniature keyboard on a pedestal was brought on for the romantic “You Said Something” – the tune evoking a long-forgotten sea-shanty. “The Whores Hustle & The Hustlers Whore” hits you with its high notes and you wonder where that voice comes from! It was time to say a brief goodbye to “Stories…” and make way for “The Sky Lit Up”, an emotive “Dry”, the sensual “C’Mon Billy”, and, a personal highlight, “Down By The Water”. Back to “Stories…” for “This Is Love” and then over to Berlin for the Cabaret of “Nickel Under The Foot”. The band left the stage to the thunderous appreciation of a hot and sweaty Shepherds Bush Empire and emerged minutes later for the first of 5 encores, “Beautiful Feeling”. It’s clear that the demons are gone and Polly’s having fun. “Don’t Tell Me It’s Too Late”, a blistering “Kamikaze”, and a ferocious “Rid Of Me” all followed. The night ended on another classic, “Sheela-Na-Gig”. A welcome return from this unique performer, who is in a class of her own. Mandy _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From jitr-owner Wed Feb 14 07:11:54 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id HAA05073 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 07:11:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (Antares.Netverk.Com.Ar [200.16.204.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id HAA05069 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 07:11:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from default (prime029154.netverk.com.ar [200.51.29.154]) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA26456 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:16:59 -0300 (ART) Message-ID: <000c01c09698$d264f140$9a1d33c8@default> Reply-To: "Gabriela Rossi" From: "Gabriela Rossi" To: "JITR" Subject: For the latinamerican jitrers Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:14:02 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0967F.9EA80B80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0967F.9EA80B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey everyone! This is for the latin american members of the list, so forgive me for = writing the rest of the message in spanish: Quer=EDa contarles que ayer pesqu=E9 de casualidad y empezado el BTM de = Sin=E9ad por MTV, si nuestro MTVLA! Les aseguro que no daba cr=E9dito a = mis ojos. Calculo que debe haber empezado a las 11:00. =BFalguien lo = vio? Espero que no sean noticias viejas, si alguien sabe algo respecto = de posibles repeticiones, por favor d=EDganme porque querr=EDa verlo = entero y grabarlo, les aseguro que vale la pena. El el web site de MTVLA = no dice absolutamente nada. Bueno ojal=E1 lo hayan visto... Muchos saludos a todos! Gabi. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0967F.9EA80B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey everyone!
This is for the latin american members of the list, so forgive me = for=20 writing the rest of the message in spanish:
Quer=EDa contarles que ayer pesqu=E9 de casualidad y empezado el = BTM de Sin=E9ad=20 por MTV, si nuestro MTVLA! Les aseguro que no daba cr=E9dito a mis ojos. = Calculo=20 que debe haber empezado a las 11:00. =BFalguien lo vio? Espero que no = sean=20 noticias viejas, si alguien sabe algo respecto de posibles repeticiones, = por=20 favor d=EDganme porque querr=EDa verlo entero y grabarlo, les = aseguro que vale=20 la pena. El el web site de MTVLA no dice absolutamente nada.
Bueno ojal=E1 lo hayan visto...
 
Muchos saludos a todos!
 
Gabi.
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0967F.9EA80B80-- From jitr-owner Wed Feb 14 14:23:40 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id OAA05527 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:23:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from fecorreo03.adinet.com.uy (fecorreo03.adinet.com.uy [206.99.44.219]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id OAA05523 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:23:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from gustavo (tc1-131.conectate.com.uy [63.110.120.131]) by fecorreo03.adinet.com.uy (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1EMNcL13555 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:23:45 -0300 Message-ID: <002901c096d4$e638f720$83786e3f@gustavo> From: "vIcKy + gUs" To: References: <200102081640.IAA25621@server.postmodern.com> Subject: behind the music Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:19:20 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Behind the music on Sinead is finally in MTV LA with spanish subtitles! I can't believe how many things that Sinead said in those interviews I've missed... bye GUS From jitr-owner Wed Feb 14 15:00:57 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id PAA05586 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp2.vol.cz (smtp2.vol.cz [195.250.128.42]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id PAA05582 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:00:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ostravaa-169.dialup.vol.cz (ostravaa-169.dialup.vol.cz [212.20.110.169]) by smtp2.vol.cz (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1EN0wN02465; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 00:01:02 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 00:01:02 +0100 From: jim X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) Personal Reply-To: jim X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1624216388.20010215000102@volny.cz> To: "Mars-L" CC: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: I got the ASF-video files ;-))))) In-reply-To: <002401c095df$d5716d00$2e1cbbd4@chello.nl> References: <002401c095df$d5716d00$2e1cbbd4@chello.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi, For converting .asf files you can try VirtualDub asf version(URL http://www.dvdcopyworld.de/ripper/VirtualDubasf.zip), but only ASF to Avi. Bye Jiri From jitr-owner Thu Feb 15 11:08:45 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id LAA06622 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:08:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from cpimssmtpu02.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu02.email.msn.com [207.46.181.18]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id LAA06618 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:08:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from computer ([63.44.99.152]) by cpimssmtpu02.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.1600); Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:08:31 -0800 Message-ID: <00a801c09783$9c25b240$98632c3f@computer> From: "home07036" To: "wstudio" Cc: , Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 14:15:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A4_01C09759.B219E960"; type="multipart/alternative" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Feb 2001 19:08:31.0603 (UTC) FILETIME=[AFB8A430:01C09782] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01C09759.B219E960 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00A5_01C09759.B219E960" ------=_NextPart_001_00A5_01C09759.B219E960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Glacier Johnny, I never received your video's. I do not hear from at all. what's up? = did you get my CD's ------=_NextPart_001_00A5_01C09759.B219E960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Glacier
 

Johnny,

    I never received your video's. I do not hear from = at all.=20 what's up? did you get my CD's

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Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:41:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f270.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.145]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id LAA06675 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:41:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:41:03 -0800 Received: from 212.98.13.8 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 19:41:03 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.98.13.8] From: "Deniz Cebe" To: mauratamminen@hotmail.com, jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Liam Fay quote Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 21:41:03 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Feb 2001 19:41:03.0697 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B428C10:01C09787] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ >From: "Maura Tamminen" >To: jitr@postmodern.com >Subject: Liam Fay quote >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:51:57 +0200 > >"Sinéad O´Connor is like a stopped clock. She´s right twice a day." >- writer Liam Fay What a bloody CLEVER thing to say. How creative and original. A true genius this Fay guy must be. Deniz ____________________________________________________________ UNIVERSAL MOTHER >> http://dcebe.tripod.com/main.htm THE SINÉAD O'CONNOR SITE >> http://sinead-oconnor.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From jitr-owner Thu Feb 15 16:08:36 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id QAA07016 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:08:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (root@proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id QAA07012 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:08:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from newresearch.com (pix2.liberate.com [216.221.224.2]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id QAA23836; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:06:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A8C6F11.2080906@newresearch.com> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:06:41 -0800 From: Dan Duncan Reply-To: dunc@newresearch.com Organization: New Research Group User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Contra Liam Fay References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ a clock for sinead let all the cleverness remain in the newspapers; remember the child you were, and the hero you wish to become. let numbers tumble into the moonlit ocean where all arguments dissolve into choirs of midnight silence. let time go past. never wait again for clocks or calendars: your heart is in eternity. Dan Duncan New Research Group "Different is not always better, but better is always different." Deniz Cebe wrote: From: "Maura Tamminen" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Liam Fay quote Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:51:57 +0200 "Sinéad O´Connor is like a stopped clock. She´s right twice a day." - writer Liam Fay What a bloody CLEVER thing to say. How creative and original. A true genius this Fay guy must be. Deniz ____________________________________________________________ UNIVERSAL MOTHER >> http://dcebe.tripod.com/main.htm THE SINÉAD O'CONNOR SITE >> http://sinead-oconnor.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From jitr-owner Fri Feb 16 13:00:04 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) id NAA08344 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:00:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com (mailout04.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.18]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-001222r) with ESMTP id MAA08340 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:59:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.com by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14Tryx-00040g-01; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 21:59:59 +0100 Received: from daheinze (520056542778-0001@[193.159.92.74]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14Trym-0NeCm0C; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 21:59:48 +0100 Message-ID: <008201c0985b$ec8ec7c0$4a5c9fc1@daheinze> From: daheinze@t-online.de (Daniel Heinze) To: Subject: New CD featuring Sinead out on April 9th Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 22:03:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007F_01C09864.4DD489E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Sender: 520056542778-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01C09864.4DD489E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everybody, here's an article I found on dotmusic. Have a great weekend everyone, Shalom, Daniel! ROBBIE'S 'BRAND NEW BOOTS AND PANTIES' Paul McCartney and Robbie Williams head an amazing array of stars = who have re-recorded tracks for 'Brand New Boots And Panties' - a = reworking of Ian Dury's seminal 1977 LP, dotmusic can exclusively = reveal.=20 The pair are joined by Catatonia's Cerys Matthews, Sinead = O'Connor, Madness, Billy Bragg, Shane McGowan, Feeder's Grant Nicholas, = Wreckless Eric and comedian Keith Allen who have teamed up with Dury's = amazing band - The Blockheads - and producer of the original 'New Boots = And Panties', Laurie Latham.=20 We can reveal that the album features a high-octane performance = from Paul McCartney, on a rollicking version of 'I'm Partial To Your = Abracadabra', while Robbie croons and then explodes on the classic = 'Sweet Gene Vincent'; the track he debuted exclusively during a live = webcast on dotmusic last June.=20 Meanwhile, Cerys Matthews is certain to cause controversy with her =