From jitr-owner Fri Sep 1 03:12:09 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id DAA22064 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 03:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from c0mailgw02.prontomail.com ([216.163.180.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id DAA22060 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 03:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from c5web103 (216.163.180.10) by c0mailgw02.prontomail.com (NPlex 4.5.049) id 39AC3DA800055980; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 03:11:56 -0700 X-Version: ireland 6.2.3.2329.0 From: "Viera Novakova" Message-Id: <81E0B47E6DF74D115AF40005B8ACC2B0@viera.ireland.com> Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:17:02 +0200 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: eugenia_andino@hotmail.com Subject: Re: More about =?iso-8859-1?B?U2lu6WFk?= videoclips CC: jitr@postmodern.com X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi! Mike Lipscombe has directed NMW. And I'm not sure but I think that Michael Gondry has directed Fire on Babylon. Hope that helps. Peace Viera _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com From jitr-owner Fri Sep 1 12:00:21 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id MAA23047 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web1206.mail.yahoo.com (web1206.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.142]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with SMTP id MAA23043 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24137 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Sep 2000 19:00:44 -0000 Message-ID: <20000901190044.24136.qmail@web1206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.21.83.151] by web1206.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 01 Sep 2000 12:00:44 PDT Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:00:44 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?kai=20chai?= Subject: it's oh so quiet... here's a review of f&c To: jitr@postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Sinead O'Connor Faith and Courage (Atlantic/Warner Music) A safe, but welcome, return for a pop maverick. The saddest thing about Sinead O'Connor is that most people haven't really given her much thought for 10 years. Not as a musician, anyway. She's that bald woman; the one who tore up a picture of the Pope; the woman who claims she is a Catholic priest; the mother of two who came out as a lesbian. The best thing about the often admirable and attractive Faith and Courage is that it restores Sinead O'Connor the songwriter and singer. The trade-off is that while there are some powerful songs here, they are often presented in a surprisingly mainstream fashion, a compromise be- tween her wide-ranging tastes - her love of hip-hop, reggae and traditional Irish, sometimes all at once as in The Lamb's Book of Life - and the need to get these songs on the radio. It's surprising because compromise was never an O'Connor trait, and her lyrics suggest she doesn't apply it in her life. Emotionally, you can understand much of the album from The Lamb's Book of Life (along with Emma's Song, the best song on the album), where she says that everything in this world would be okay/If people just believed enough in God to pray. Succour and peace are the lyrical touchstones here, beginning with The Healing Room's advice to feed the soul through 'Til I Whisper U Something's tough nurturing of a friendship and Emma's Song's unfiltered love to, finally, a haunting, multi-ethnic, multifaithKyrie Eleison. Even the assertive No Man's Woman - I don't wanna be no man's woman/I've other work I want to get done- resolves itself in an admission of deference: I don't tell everything about the love I get/I've got a lovin' man but he's a spirit ... and I'm forgiven oh a million times. With five separate producers, instrumentation that ranges from programmed beats to tin whistle and strings and the incorporation of dub, traditional Irish, contemporary R&B and even the whiff of late '80s pop, Faith and Courage shouldn't work. In part it's held together by her voice, a voice capable of delicacy but always just a breath away from declamatory, from reaching out and grabbing you by the throat and saying "listen to me". It's also kept together by a tendency to pull back, to hold to a mid-pace ballad tempo or resist the urge to let, for example, dub scatter rhythms grab a hold. Such conservatism is artistically disappointing but maybe they - the record company, producers and, one presumes, O'Connor - are right. Maybe she needs to reclaim her place in the market before marking out a bolder one. - Bernard Zuel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ From jitr-owner Fri Sep 1 12:02:26 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id MAA23138 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:02:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mcb@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id MAA23131 for jitr@server.postmodern.com; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outgoing.redshift.com (outgoing.redshift.com [216.228.2.99]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id LAA23021 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.redshift.com (mail.redshift.com [216.228.2.86]) by outgoing.redshift.com (8.9.3/) with ESMTP id LAA13398 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:55:16 -0700 Received: from default (pm2-79.corp.redshift.com [216.228.4.79]) by mail.redshift.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id e81IuEG17665 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:56:14 -0700 Message-ID: <000701c01446$fdc3aea0$4f04e4d8@default> From: "Rastafario" To: Subject: Billboard Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:01:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Well, at last check, Sinead's faith & Courage has fallen to #195 on Billboard after 9 weeks of release. She has probably sold about 125,000 copies of the album in the US, which is not too good at all. Hopefully, the release of 'Jealous' and some renewed airplay on this great song will spur more interest in the album. After all, Atlantic is in it for the long haul, I think. 'Jealous' has a much better chance at becoming a hit than NMW, particularly if the video is effective. Please...no Sinead with horses, or floating around in fetal position inside a womb. No frog-dancing in muu muus, no dressing up like Joan of Arc and attacking monster machines. Just keep the camera on her face and let her mesmerize. I hope jealous is a hit, cause this album deserves to be heard by millions, not just a relative few. peace in Jah, Jake And Lois, if you're out there....welcome to JITR. Be sure to introduce yourself as the shave-ee on Queen latifah. xxx ooo From jitr-owner Fri Sep 1 12:19:08 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id MAA23181 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web3801.mail.yahoo.com (web3801.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.172]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with SMTP id MAA23177 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20000901191901.8341.qmail@web3801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.229.1.2] by web3801.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 01 Sep 2000 12:19:01 PDT Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:19:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Keri Campbell Subject: Re: Billboard To: jitr@postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Speaking of the Queen Latifah show, has anyone heard any word from the birds in the Queen's garden? I'm sure someone would have announced it already if they've heard when the show is going to be aired but I just thought I'd ask just in case I missed it somehow. Thanks! Keri > And Lois, if you're out there....welcome to JITR. Be > sure to introduce > yourself as the shave-ee on Queen latifah. > > xxx ooo > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ From jitr-owner Fri Sep 1 12:58:14 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id MAA23271 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:58:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ptm.ca ([209.58.83.68]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id MAA23267 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wks185 [10.0.100.135] by mail.ptm.ca (SMTPD32-6.00) id A9FC3EB40104; Fri, 01 Sep 2000 15:56:44 -0400 From: "Melissa Guay" To: Subject: The Morning Show Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:57:07 -0400 Message-ID: <000601c0144e$ceebfa30$8764000a@wks185.ptm.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello all! I could finally get a hold on the Jay Leno performance and the Morning Show one. I still thought Sinead sang not as good as she used to. Anyway... I wanted to know if it is normal I didn`t see Make me A channel Of Your Peace? Was it only 4 the people attending or was it recorded and broadcasted too? If ever I am wrong and didn`t check well, could you please tell me when, in the show, about, it is? Thank U sooooooooooooooooo much. By the way Emma`s Song is my fave now, and What doesn`t belong..., and The Lamb`s book, and If U ever(in good order) Jealous is still not a song I like. No Man`s Woman either. Dancing Lessons has to b the worse song of her career(I mean I STILL like it, God..... but it`s not a kick-*** song, it`s very very ordinary) I find it`s sad to see Sinead being commercial, pop and controled. In a way, I find her much more vulnerable now then ever. I don`t kow how to explain this-I just feel sad when I see and hear her now-there`s a weird feeling that tells me that what I see is not right. mélissa From jitr-owner Fri Sep 1 15:52:12 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id PAA23641 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mcb@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id PAA23634 for jitr@server.postmodern.com; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:52:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outgoing.redshift.com (outgoing.redshift.com [216.228.2.99]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id MAA23238 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.redshift.com (mail.redshift.com [216.228.2.86]) by outgoing.redshift.com (8.9.3/) with ESMTP id MAA15071 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:41:34 -0700 Received: from default (pm4-205.corp.redshift.com [216.228.4.205]) by mail.redshift.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id e81JgWG04249 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:42:32 -0700 Message-ID: <000701c0144d$75a8adc0$cd04e4d8@default> From: "Rastafario" To: Subject: Latifah Airdate Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:47:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hey Jumpers, just got this news flash from Lois....in this week's People Magazine (w/Rob Lowe on the cover) page 67, there is a photo from the Latifah show, depicting latifah, Lois, and Sinead shaving Lois's hair! Wow! In any event, the airdate for the Latifah show is September 13th!!!!!!!! get your VCRs ready! Jake From jitr-owner Fri Sep 1 16:04:53 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id QAA23770 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from courier01.adinet.com.uy (courier01.adinet.com.uy [206.99.44.235]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id QAA23766 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m (r207-50-240-86.adinet.com.uy [207.50.240.86]) by courier01.adinet.com.uy (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA26089 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 20:07:41 -0300 (GMT) Message-ID: <000f01c0146a$19f13160$56f032cf@m> From: "vIcKy + gUs" To: Subject: just and anecdote Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 19:40:07 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ HI jumpers. As some of you may know I am the conductor of a kids tv show here in Uruguay named "HACE LO QUE QUIERAS" ("do what you want", or something like that). Yesterday I recorded my birthday's program (next monday 4th.) and I send the show's DJ some of my fav. Sinead songs to be played all the time through the show. It was great to hear her while I was working, and thinking of that many many people who just knows NC2U, and share with them songs like "house of the rising sun" or "chiquitita" or "streets of london" or also other no-covers and some other from the new album. Also the excecutive productor and my partner in the show secretly prepared some short "tapes" with regards from my very close friends and masters. In one of those special "inserts" through the show, one of my friend's said something like: "I know you might prefer to see Sinead O'Connor instead of me saying "happy birthday", but that's how things are" Unfortunaltely I couldn't see Vicky, my girlfriend and lover http://planeta.i.com.uy/guz/dondeestoy.htm ) because she is an actress of another tv show in another tv channel, but is great to have her everyday (she a new sinead addict ... fortunately... i have no chance) anyway, i wanted to share it with you. Just it. delete... bye! GUs From jitr-owner Fri Sep 1 16:56:56 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id QAA23887 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-r19.mx.aol.com (imo-r19.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.73]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id QAA23883 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:56:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Musiclover348@cs.com Received: from Musiclover348@cs.com by imo-r19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.15.) id c.be.8db3ca6 (4542) for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 19:56:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 19:56:45 EDT Subject: Re: Latifah Airdate To: jitr@server.postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 108 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ In a message dated 9/1/00 5:54:12 PM Central Daylight Time, lastfort@redshift.com writes: << in this week's People Magazine (w/Rob Lowe on the cover) page 67, there is a photo from the Latifah show, depicting latifah, Lois, and Sinead shaving Lois's hair! Wow! In any event, the airdate for the Latifah show is September 13th!!!!!!!! get your VCRs ready! >> WhooHooo! Can't wait! Thanks! Loving Sinead, CoolPolly From jitr-owner Fri Sep 1 21:08:14 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id VAA24355 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id VAA24351 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dvwonder (adsl-151-202-91-146.bellatlantic.net [151.202.91.146]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA12426 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 00:08:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 00:08:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200009020408.AAA12426@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: jntan@mailbox.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jitr@server.postmodern.com From: "Ju N. Tan" Subject: Airdate for Queen Latifah? Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi, Does anyone out there know the TV airdate for the Queen Latifah show with Sinead? I'm going out of town and need to set my VCR timer! Thanks, Ju From jitr-owner Fri Sep 1 22:01:39 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id WAA24411 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 22:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id WAA24407 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 22:01:36 -0700 (PDT) From: KasdanR@aol.com Received: from KasdanR@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.15.) id s.bc.9d87ee3 (3758); Sat, 2 Sep 2000 01:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 01:01:24 EDT Subject: Re: Billboard To: lastfort@redshift.com, jitr@server.postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 119 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ In a message dated 09/01/2000 3:03:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lastfort@redshift.com writes: > Well, at last check, Sinead's faith & Courage has fallen to #195 on > Billboard after 9 weeks of release. She has probably sold about 125,000 > copies of the album in the US, which is not too good at all.... When I stopped into Virgin Records at Union Square the other day they were playing the entire _Faith And Courage_ in the store. *Somebody* likes it! love,amyg ...loving this record more with each listen... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ " 'Darling......', it said." (Stephen King, _Pet Sematary_) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 00:14:16 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id AAA24528 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 00:14:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from loom.online.ee (loom.online.ee [194.106.96.5]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with SMTP id AAA24524 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 00:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11764 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2000 09:14:37 +0200 Received: from hi2-solo-231.dyn.online.ee (HELO user) (213.180.14.231) by loom.online.ee with SMTP; 2 Sep 2000 09:14:37 +0200 Message-ID: <008c01c014a5$23b50880$e70eb4d5@user> Reply-To: "PK" From: "PK" To: "jitr@postmodern.com" Cc: "Eugenia Andino" , "Viera Novakova" References: <81E0B47E6DF74D115AF40005B8ACC2B0@viera.ireland.com> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_More_about_Sin=E9ad_videoclips?= Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 09:12:59 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi, Thank you Viera for the inf. According to the information I got Michel Gondry really did direct Fire On Babylon & has also done Bjork's Human Behaviour, Army Of Me, Isobel, Hyperballad, Joga & Bachelorette. Another parallel- Sophie Muller who directed Venus as a Boy for Björk also directed Sinead's Chiquitita & The Emperor's New Clothes (version 2). (I never knew that there are 2 versions?!? They say that version1 was directed by John Maybury.) BTW has anybody seen a documentary called "The Righteous Babes" (about Sinead O'Connor, Ani DiFranco & Madonna...)??? pk From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 02:12:50 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id CAA24733 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 02:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f186.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.186]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id CAA24729 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 02:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 02:12:44 -0700 Received: from 213.153.206.172 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 02 Sep 2000 09:12:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.153.206.172] From: "Deniz Cebe" To: pille.karlson@mail.ee, jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: More about Sinéad videoclips Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 12:12:44 EEST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Sep 2000 09:12:44.0337 (UTC) FILETIME=[F41E3A10:01C014BD] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ >From: "PK" >Reply-To: "PK" >To: "jitr@postmodern.com" >Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 09:12:59 +0300 >Thank you Viera for the inf. According to the information I got Michel >Gondry really did direct Fire On Babylon & has also done Bjork's Human >Behaviour, Army Of Me, Isobel, Hyperballad, Joga & Bachelorette. Cool fella, really! I love his work with Bjork, but didn't know he also directed FOB. Such a brilliant video, and Jake, I ADORE Sinéad's Jeanne d'Arc section! >The Emperor's New Clothes (version 2). Version 2?!?!?!?! Cheers, Deniz ____________________________________________________________ UNIVERSAL MOTHER >> http://dcebe.tripod.com/main.htm THE SINÉAD O'CONNOR SITE >> http://sinead-oconnor.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 02:44:26 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id CAA24793 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 02:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f136.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.136]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id CAA24789 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 02:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 02:44:20 -0700 Received: from 212.98.11.131 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 02 Sep 2000 09:44:20 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.98.11.131] From: "Deniz Cebe" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: My Top 5 Sinéad Videos Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 12:44:20 EEST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Sep 2000 09:44:20.0524 (UTC) FILETIME=[5E5566C0:01C014C2] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi there, Speaking of videos lately, I decided to track down my 5 most favourite Sinéad videos. The list goes: 1 Fire On Babylon _________________ Cleverly written, technically superb and really tell- ing video. The drill metaphor and Jeanne d'Arc scenes are the highlights and so is the end, where the house burns up and flower bloom in the garden. 2 Success Has Made A Failure ____________________________ This video and the artwork to the single is what turns the song into a chilling rebel song against child abuse from an ordinary big band tune. Sinéad's deaf-mute sym- bols are spine-tingling, together with the pictures of human rights abuse victims. A glorious thing on Sinéad' s part, to show up the courage to transform all these things into a commercial music video. 3 Thank You For Hearing Me __________________________ Completely sublime. Save for the part where the camera shows the poorly-designed egg in which Sinéad's in. The end part where she flies into the clouds is gorgeous. 4 Chiquitita ____________ Such an entertaining and light-hearted video. Makes you want to be there to have the second cuppa. She's so naturally beautiful and (yet again) the ending is in- credibly wonderful, something you'd never guess - which catches you in utter surprise and delight. 5 Famine ________ Grammy-nominated brilliant video. Sinéad is at her best in this one, with the close shots of her beautiful face, which is far better than NC2U. That the video is b/w and features a sudden shot of Kurt Cobain's face are the oth- er highlights. The runner-up would be No Man's Woman. Which is all the more reason to love the song, if you as ask me. My least fave would DEFINITELY be I Want Your Hands On Me, which is one of the funniest and most embarrassing things I've ever seen!! Cheers, Deniz ____________________________________________________________ UNIVERSAL MOTHER >> http://dcebe.tripod.com/main.htm THE SINÉAD O'CONNOR SITE >> http://sinead-oconnor.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 02:47:19 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id CAA24838 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 02:47:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f150.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.150]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id CAA24832 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 02:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 02:47:13 -0700 Received: from 62.82.81.240 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 02 Sep 2000 09:47:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.82.81.240] From: "Eugenia Andino" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Jake's opinion on videoclips Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 11:47:13 CEST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Sep 2000 09:47:13.0167 (UTC) FILETIME=[C53CA1F0:01C014C2] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hey Jake, >'Jealous' has a much better chance at becoming a hit than NMW, >particularly if the video is effective. Please...no Sinead with horses, or >floating around in fetal position inside a womb. No frog-dancing in muu >muus, no dressing up like Joan of Arc and attacking monster machines. Just >keep the camera on her face and let her mesmerize What about a Springsteen's-"Philadelphia" kind of videoclip? something inbetween the videos you don't like and the overexploited NC2U style: Sinéad walking down a street and singing straight to the camera, so that you see her all the time, but NO close-ups of her face. Ideal setting: a crowded street in which everyone ignores Sinéad passing by. Other similar videos: The Verve's "bittersweet simphony", Massive Attack's "unfinished simpathy", The walking scenes in Red Hot Chili Peppers "under the bridge". What do you think? Eugenia. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 03:09:25 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id DAA24902 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 03:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f238.hotmail.com [209.185.130.203]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id DAA24898 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 03:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 03:09:19 -0700 Received: from 193.133.96.141 by lw1fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 02 Sep 2000 10:09:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [193.133.96.141] From: "noodle :o]" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: videos Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 10:09:19 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Sep 2000 10:09:19.0835 (UTC) FILETIME=[DBFE1AB0:01C014C5] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi all, quick question: where have you been able to see all of these Sinéad videos?! The only one's I've seen are - IN FULL - No Man's Woman, Nothing Compares 2 U & The Emperor's New Clothes IN PART - Thank You for Hearing Me, My Special Child, 3 Babies & Fire on Babylon I've only been able to get these via net-streams or catching clips by luck on TV! Thanks, noodle :o) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 03:19:36 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id DAA24939 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 03:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f187.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.187]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id DAA24935 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 03:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 03:19:31 -0700 Received: from 62.82.81.240 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 02 Sep 2000 10:19:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.82.81.240] From: "Eugenia Andino" To: pille.karlson@mail.ee, jitr@postmodern.com Subject: It feel so good to be right Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 12:19:31 CEST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Sep 2000 10:19:31.0068 (UTC) FILETIME=[4850DBC0:01C014C7] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi PK, he he he he... >Thank you Viera for the inf. According to the information I got Michel >Gondry really did direct Fire On Babylon & has also done Bjork's Human >Behaviour, Army Of Me, Isobel, Hyperballad, Joga & Bachelorette. So I was right! :) I hope this guy makes more videos with Sinéad in the future. >Another parallel- Sophie Muller who directed Venus as a Boy for Björk also >directed Sinead's Chiquitita & The Emperor's New Clothes (version 2). Is "Venus as a boy" the video in which Björk makes some fried eggs? >BTW has anybody seen a documentary called "The Righteous Babes" (about >Sinead O'Connor, Ani DiFranco & Madonna...)??? Ani and Sinéad in the same documentary?!?! Cool! Can you give any info on it (who made it, when, etc)? Eugenia. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 03:19:54 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id DAA24974 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 03:19:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f247.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.247]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id DAA24968 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 03:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 03:19:49 -0700 Received: from 62.82.81.240 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 02 Sep 2000 10:19:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.82.81.240] From: "Eugenia Andino" To: pille.karlson@mail.ee, jitr@postmodern.com Subject: It feel so good to be right Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 12:19:48 CEST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Sep 2000 10:19:49.0025 (UTC) FILETIME=[5304E110:01C014C7] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi PK, he he he he... >Thank you Viera for the inf. According to the information I got Michel >Gondry really did direct Fire On Babylon & has also done Bjork's Human >Behaviour, Army Of Me, Isobel, Hyperballad, Joga & Bachelorette. So I was right! :) I hope this guy makes more videos with Sinéad in the future. >Another parallel- Sophie Muller who directed Venus as a Boy for Björk also >directed Sinead's Chiquitita & The Emperor's New Clothes (version 2). Is "Venus as a boy" the video in which Björk makes some fried eggs? >BTW has anybody seen a documentary called "The Righteous Babes" (about >Sinead O'Connor, Ani DiFranco & Madonna...)??? Ani and Sinéad in the same documentary?!?! Cool! Can you give any info on it (who made it, when, etc)? Eugenia. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 08:20:26 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id IAA25090 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 08:20:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from courier01.adinet.com.uy (courier01.adinet.com.uy [206.99.44.235]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id IAA25086 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 08:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m (r200-2-35-67.adinet.com.uy [200.2.35.67]) by courier01.adinet.com.uy (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA06900 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 12:23:10 -0300 (GMT) Message-ID: <005101c014f2$6360bfe0$432302c8@m> From: "vIcKy + gUs" To: Subject: my own video clips review Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 12:12:41 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Sometimes I put Eduard's video compilation on my vcr to see Sinead --even though sound is awful or almost not good enough for me, but anyway, the things is--> I try to feel Sinead closer and find the reason of each video. Here is my little opinion of what I think it is great and awful in each video of that compilation (it might be nice to hear what you jumpers say about those): 1- a kind of resume of "the lion and the cobra" with Sinead images I do not where is this video from, but it is a good idea to introduce a whole album. Although also it is crazy, because you don' know where finish or begins a song, there is something beautiful and with lot of coherence in that video. Good enough. 2- Troy Well, it is my fav song ever, so i thikn the video is not good enough. And not just because it is ancient nowadays (thinkking on the high tech., but as you may agree the real masterpieces do not need high technology. Images are poor. 3- World party funny. also the song. and Sinead dances like a robot. pretty cool. 4- Mandinka it is nice to see Sinead in a "cold" scenography. But it is not her in that video. 5- I want your hand son me (w/ MC Lyte) 6- Jump in the river 7- Kingdom of rain 8- Nothing compares 2 u 9- The emperor's new clothes 10- Three babies 11- You do something to me 12- My special child 13- Visions of you 14- Success has made a failure of our home 15- The making of Blood of Eden 16- Blood of Eden 17- Ship ahoy 18- Don't give up (w/ willie nelson) 19- Come talk to me 20- You made the thief of your heart 21- Fire on Babylon 22- Thank you for hearing me 23- Haunted 24- Famine 25- All apologies 26- This is to mother you 27- This Is a rebel song 28- All kinds of everything 29- Chiquitita 30- Be still 31- Release 32- No man's woman From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 08:21:24 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id IAA25126 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 08:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f102.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.102]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id IAA25122 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 08:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 08:21:19 -0700 Received: from 213.153.204.123 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 02 Sep 2000 15:21:18 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.153.204.123] From: "Deniz Cebe" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Jealous SO hot at Italian radio!!! Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 18:21:18 EEST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Sep 2000 15:21:19.0204 (UTC) FILETIME=[719B2240:01C014F1] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi there, Italian radio station Laisvoji Banga has Jealous at number 4, with 167 votes. There hasn't been much bombarding from JITR, so I think this number is truly INCREDIBLE! I do believe in this song! Go vote at: http://www.lbanga.lt/hits.shtml Deniz ____________________________________________________________ UNIVERSAL MOTHER >> http://dcebe.tripod.com/main.htm THE SINÉAD O'CONNOR SITE >> http://sinead-oconnor.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 08:43:36 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id IAA25169 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 08:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f300.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.175]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id IAA25165 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 08:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 08:43:28 -0700 Received: from 213.153.204.123 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 02 Sep 2000 15:43:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.153.204.123] From: "Deniz Cebe" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Her Mantle So Green FINAL VERSION Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 18:43:28 EEST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Sep 2000 15:43:28.0810 (UTC) FILETIME=[8A1CE8A0:01C014F4] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Sinéad O'Connor HER MANTLE SO GREEN (Traditional arranged by Sinéad O’Connor) _____________________________________________________________ As I went out walking one morning in June To view the fair fields and the flowers in bloom I spied a pretty fair maid, she appeared like a queen With her costly fine robe and her mantle so green Says I: My pretty fair maid, won’t you come with me? We’ll both join in wed lock and married will be I will dress you in rich attire, you’ll appear like a queen With your costly fine robe and your mantle so green Says she: Now, my young man I must be excused For I’ll wed with no man, so you must be refused To the green woods I will wonder to shun all man’s view For the boy I love dearly, lies in famed Waterloo _____________________________________________________________ Transcribed by Deniz Cebe Corrections by Jake, Klaas and Noodle ____________________________________________________________ UNIVERSAL MOTHER >> http://dcebe.tripod.com/main.htm THE SINÉAD O'CONNOR SITE >> http://sinead-oconnor.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 09:30:14 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id JAA25230 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 09:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f324.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.199]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id JAA25226 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 09:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 09:30:08 -0700 Received: from 213.153.204.123 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 02 Sep 2000 16:30:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.153.204.123] From: "Deniz Cebe" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Mystery Train at UM! Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 19:30:08 EEST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Sep 2000 16:30:08.0694 (UTC) FILETIME=[0EF94D60:01C014FB] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi there, The Mystery Train gig now can be found on UM in its entirety. Check the SOUNDS section for the following tracks: Introduction Announcement of Sinéad Kyrié Eléison Interview Segment 1 The Healing Room Interview Segment 2 Full Circle On Raglan Road Interview Segment 3 Amazing Grace I Am Stretched On Your Grave Encore Request She Moved Through The Fair Thanks to Marcel for the MP3's!!! Extra special, HUGE thanks to Curly for what she knows! ;-) Deniz ____________________________________________________________ UNIVERSAL MOTHER >> http://dcebe.tripod.com/main.htm THE SINÉAD O'CONNOR SITE >> http://sinead-oconnor.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 10:49:27 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id KAA25377 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 10:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail5.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id KAA25373 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 10:49:24 -0700 (PDT) From: JMESBAEHI@mgfairfax.rr.com Received: from a ([24.28.210.221]) by mail5.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sat, 2 Sep 2000 13:49:36 -0400 Message-ID: <000c01c01506$5cd31ba0$0200a8c0@cox.rr.com> To: Subject: Jealous Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 13:51:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C014E4.D5877FE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C014E4.D5877FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Did anyone find out when the video for Jealous is coming out? Ardeshir ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C014E4.D5877FE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Did anyone find out when the video for = Jealous is=20 coming out?
 
Ardeshir
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C014E4.D5877FE0-- From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 11:22:47 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id LAA25510 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 11:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from courier02.adinet.com.uy (courier02.adinet.com.uy [206.99.44.245]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id LAA25506 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 11:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m (r200-2-45-127.adinet.com.uy [200.2.45.127]) by courier02.adinet.com.uy (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA12278 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 15:18:47 -0300 (GMT) Message-ID: <001501c0150b$61b8d2e0$7f2d02c8@m> From: "vIcKy + gUs" To: Subject: my review.... continues (ooops) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 15:24:48 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Here i continue with the list f videos... (delete now if not interested) 2- Troy the best= the anger in her face worst= when she's on fire and painted in gold. 3- World party the best= Sinead dancing like a robot (she ALWAYS suprises me) and when she kisses the planet 4- Mandinka the best= the anger... worst= the scenography - her clothes look ... 5- I want your hand son me (w/ MC Lyte) the best= the use of the colors worst= mc lyte, / when sinead sings with her hands in the jacket's pockets... (was she bored?) / simple video 6- Jump in the river the best= dinamism / everyone eats their nails worst= the camera is omving all the time, makes me nervous 7- Kingdom of rain the best= it's like a movie. tells a simple story. point. worst= the model who plays the woman (sinead voice). Looks and acts like a transexual. Sinead could be much better and sexy than her. (isn't sinead in a custom, right? if so... ooops) 8- Nothing compares 2 u the best= Sinead, always sinead worst= how the mix of images is done. / her face shoot like the IDNWWIHG cd cover--> too obvious and out fo context 9- The emperor's new clothes the best= the little theatre idea / how she dances worst= sometimes is missed the idea of being on stage. 10- Three babies (my fav video) the best= the images are beautiful / when Sinead is sleeping close to the horse and how the ears of the horse moves when sinead sings loud. worst= doesn't help me much ti understand the final meaning of the song. 11- You do something to me the best= the blond wig / sinead is really sexy doing almost... nothing. 12- My special child the best= when Jake plays with her. the glass balls, the place 13- Visions of you the best= the watery background worst= him 14- Success has made a failure of our home the best= the concept is great, the idea of a conference / the deaf language worst= the connection not so clear (almost for me) between the song and the war's victims pictures. 15- The making of Blood of Eden 16- Blood of Eden the best= how she looks at PG worst= too baroque for me 17- Ship ahoy the best= Sinead enchained - she's really desperate worst= Marxman 18- Don't give up (w/ willie nelson) the best= the warm environment worst= tooo quiet - and i don't know if S. means what is singing 19- Come talk to me the best= nothing worst= everything 20- You made the thief of your heart the best= Sinead interpretation - GREAT - the emthapor with the crow and the pigeon worst= the end 21- Fire on Babylon the best= it is rally like a nightmare / Sinead's look worst= what i feel when i see it. I know it's good, but i dont like it. 22- Thank you for hearing me the best= the fetus idea. GREAT worst= the exit of the egg 23- Haunted the best= the stage, the blue color, the water floor and SInead is BEAUTIFUL worst= (some jump on the Eduards original tape) 24- Famine the best= the mix of images and letters (and the image of Kurt Cobain) worst= the re-use of deaf language 25- All apologies the best= the idea, the concept worst= how the idea was developed 26- This is to mother you the best= the idea of 1 camara shoot and going spinning from her face 'till the whole body worst= Sinead'a wig/ Pthe aprtner --> she's not in love with thta man (who is him?) 27- This Is a rebel song the best= the realtion between the man and the woman (england and ireland) worst= Sinead's look (why that hair style?!) 28- All kinds of everything the best= her smile and eye twinkle at the end worst= both seems to be bored (sinead looks fat -- was she pregnant? --> he hair is strange too) 29- Chiquitita the best= it s great. the idea of being reparing the breakfast and who she speaks with chiquitita which is you, or the camera lens. worst= the mix of milk with tea and the clouds --- not good enough 30- Be still the best= know that sinead is there worst= almost everything 31- Release the best= Sinead ghost / the images like a collage worst= some boring images 32- No man's woman the best= the pregnant bride outside the church / Sinead's wig / he car in the sea worst= the rasta holding the wig at the end well that was all bye G From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 11:40:27 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id LAA25558 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 11:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe2.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.49]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id LAA25554 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 11:40:23 -0700 (PDT) From: JMESBAEHI@mgfairfax.rr.com Received: from a ([24.28.210.221]) by mail2.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:40:35 -0400 Message-ID: <000501c0150d$7c047940$0200a8c0@cox.rr.com> To: References: <001501c0150b$61b8d2e0$7f2d02c8@m> Subject: Re: my review.... continues (ooops) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:42:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Damn... 32 videos and I've only seen like a fourth of them. They only played five of her videos on MTV and VH1. Nothing Compares, No Man's Woman, the one with MC Lyte, Emperor's New Clothes, and This Is To Mother You. These stations suck. This just proves how much they hate Sinead. Can someone put these videos into computer video format and send them to me? :) Ardeshir > Here i continue with the list f videos... > > (delete now if not interested) > > 2- Troy > the best= the anger in her face > worst= when she's on fire and painted in gold. > > 3- World party > the best= Sinead dancing like a robot (she ALWAYS suprises me) and when she > kisses the planet > > 4- Mandinka > the best= the anger... > worst= the scenography - her clothes look ... > > 5- I want your hand son me (w/ MC Lyte) > the best= the use of the colors > worst= mc lyte, / when sinead sings with her hands in the jacket's > pockets... (was she bored?) / simple video > > 6- Jump in the river > the best= dinamism / everyone eats their nails > worst= the camera is omving all the time, makes me nervous > > 7- Kingdom of rain > the best= it's like a movie. tells a simple story. point. > worst= the model who plays the woman (sinead voice). Looks and acts like a > transexual. Sinead could be much better and sexy than her. (isn't sinead in > a custom, right? if so... ooops) > > 8- Nothing compares 2 u > the best= Sinead, always sinead > worst= how the mix of images is done. / her face shoot like the IDNWWIHG cd > cover--> too obvious and out fo context > > 9- The emperor's new clothes > the best= the little theatre idea / how she dances > worst= sometimes is missed the idea of being on stage. > > 10- Three babies > (my fav video) > the best= the images are beautiful / when Sinead is sleeping close to the > horse and how the ears of the horse moves when sinead sings loud. > worst= doesn't help me much ti understand the final meaning of the song. > > 11- You do something to me > the best= the blond wig / sinead is really sexy doing almost... nothing. > > 12- My special child > the best= when Jake plays with her. the glass balls, the place > > 13- Visions of you > the best= the watery background > worst= him > > 14- Success has made a failure of our home > the best= the concept is great, the idea of a conference / the deaf language > worst= the connection not so clear (almost for me) between the song and the > war's victims pictures. > > 15- The making of Blood of Eden > 16- Blood of Eden > the best= how she looks at PG > worst= too baroque for me > > 17- Ship ahoy > the best= Sinead enchained - she's really desperate > worst= Marxman > > 18- Don't give up (w/ willie nelson) > the best= the warm environment > worst= tooo quiet - and i don't know if S. means what is singing > > 19- Come talk to me > the best= nothing > worst= everything > > 20- You made the thief of your heart > the best= Sinead interpretation - GREAT - the emthapor with the crow and the > pigeon > worst= the end > > 21- Fire on Babylon > the best= it is rally like a nightmare / Sinead's look > worst= what i feel when i see it. I know it's good, but i dont like it. > > 22- Thank you for hearing me > the best= the fetus idea. GREAT > worst= the exit of the egg > > 23- Haunted > the best= the stage, the blue color, the water floor and SInead is > BEAUTIFUL > worst= (some jump on the Eduards original tape) > > 24- Famine > the best= the mix of images and letters (and the image of Kurt Cobain) > worst= the re-use of deaf language > > 25- All apologies > the best= the idea, the concept > worst= how the idea was developed > > 26- This is to mother you > the best= the idea of 1 camara shoot and going spinning from her face 'till > the whole body > worst= Sinead'a wig/ Pthe aprtner --> she's not in love with thta man (who > is him?) > > 27- This Is a rebel song > the best= the realtion between the man and the woman (england and ireland) > worst= Sinead's look (why that hair style?!) > > 28- All kinds of everything > the best= her smile and eye twinkle at the end > worst= both seems to be bored (sinead looks fat -- was she pregnant? --> he > hair is strange too) > > 29- Chiquitita > the best= it s great. the idea of being reparing the breakfast and who she > speaks with chiquitita which is you, or the camera lens. > worst= the mix of milk with tea and the clouds --- not good enough > > 30- Be still > the best= know that sinead is there > worst= almost everything > > 31- Release > the best= Sinead ghost / the images like a collage > worst= some boring images > > 32- No man's woman > the best= the pregnant bride outside the church / Sinead's wig / he car in > the sea > worst= the rasta holding the wig at the end > > > well that was all > > bye > G From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 11:44:12 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id LAA25594 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 11:44:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail4.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe4.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.51]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id LAA25590 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 11:44:08 -0700 (PDT) From: JMESBAEHI@mgfairfax.rr.com Received: from a ([24.28.210.221]) by mail4.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:44:21 -0400 Message-ID: <000501c0150e$021c2be0$0200a8c0@cox.rr.com> To: References: <001501c0150b$61b8d2e0$7f2d02c8@m> <000501c0150d$7c047940$0200a8c0@cox.rr.com> Subject: Re: my review.... continues (ooops) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:45:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I meant to say and eighth of them. By the way, Sinead looks very sexy tan. > Damn... 32 videos and I've only seen like a fourth of them. They only played > five of her videos on MTV and VH1. Nothing Compares, No Man's Woman, the one > with MC Lyte, Emperor's New Clothes, and This Is To Mother You. These > stations suck. This just proves how much they hate Sinead. Can someone put > these videos into computer video format and send them to me? :) > > Ardeshir > > > > > Here i continue with the list f videos... > > > > (delete now if not interested) > > > > 2- Troy > > the best= the anger in her face > > worst= when she's on fire and painted in gold. > > > > 3- World party > > the best= Sinead dancing like a robot (she ALWAYS suprises me) and when > she > > kisses the planet > > > > 4- Mandinka > > the best= the anger... > > worst= the scenography - her clothes look ... > > > > 5- I want your hand son me (w/ MC Lyte) > > the best= the use of the colors > > worst= mc lyte, / when sinead sings with her hands in the jacket's > > pockets... (was she bored?) / simple video > > > > 6- Jump in the river > > the best= dinamism / everyone eats their nails > > worst= the camera is omving all the time, makes me nervous > > > > 7- Kingdom of rain > > the best= it's like a movie. tells a simple story. point. > > worst= the model who plays the woman (sinead voice). Looks and acts like a > > transexual. Sinead could be much better and sexy than her. (isn't sinead > in > > a custom, right? if so... ooops) > > > > 8- Nothing compares 2 u > > the best= Sinead, always sinead > > worst= how the mix of images is done. / her face shoot like the IDNWWIHG > cd > > cover--> too obvious and out fo context > > > > 9- The emperor's new clothes > > the best= the little theatre idea / how she dances > > worst= sometimes is missed the idea of being on stage. > > > > 10- Three babies > > (my fav video) > > the best= the images are beautiful / when Sinead is sleeping close to the > > horse and how the ears of the horse moves when sinead sings loud. > > worst= doesn't help me much ti understand the final meaning of the song. > > > > 11- You do something to me > > the best= the blond wig / sinead is really sexy doing almost... nothing. > > > > 12- My special child > > the best= when Jake plays with her. the glass balls, the place > > > > 13- Visions of you > > the best= the watery background > > worst= him > > > > 14- Success has made a failure of our home > > the best= the concept is great, the idea of a conference / the deaf > language > > worst= the connection not so clear (almost for me) between the song and > the > > war's victims pictures. > > > > 15- The making of Blood of Eden > > 16- Blood of Eden > > the best= how she looks at PG > > worst= too baroque for me > > > > 17- Ship ahoy > > the best= Sinead enchained - she's really desperate > > worst= Marxman > > > > 18- Don't give up (w/ willie nelson) > > the best= the warm environment > > worst= tooo quiet - and i don't know if S. means what is singing > > > > 19- Come talk to me > > the best= nothing > > worst= everything > > > > 20- You made the thief of your heart > > the best= Sinead interpretation - GREAT - the emthapor with the crow and > the > > pigeon > > worst= the end > > > > 21- Fire on Babylon > > the best= it is rally like a nightmare / Sinead's look > > worst= what i feel when i see it. I know it's good, but i dont like it. > > > > 22- Thank you for hearing me > > the best= the fetus idea. GREAT > > worst= the exit of the egg > > > > 23- Haunted > > the best= the stage, the blue color, the water floor and SInead is > > BEAUTIFUL > > worst= (some jump on the Eduards original tape) > > > > 24- Famine > > the best= the mix of images and letters (and the image of Kurt Cobain) > > worst= the re-use of deaf language > > > > 25- All apologies > > the best= the idea, the concept > > worst= how the idea was developed > > > > 26- This is to mother you > > the best= the idea of 1 camara shoot and going spinning from her face > 'till > > the whole body > > worst= Sinead'a wig/ Pthe aprtner --> she's not in love with thta man (who > > is him?) > > > > 27- This Is a rebel song > > the best= the realtion between the man and the woman (england and ireland) > > worst= Sinead's look (why that hair style?!) > > > > 28- All kinds of everything > > the best= her smile and eye twinkle at the end > > worst= both seems to be bored (sinead looks fat -- was she pregnant? --> > he > > hair is strange too) > > > > 29- Chiquitita > > the best= it s great. the idea of being reparing the breakfast and who she > > speaks with chiquitita which is you, or the camera lens. > > worst= the mix of milk with tea and the clouds --- not good enough > > > > 30- Be still > > the best= know that sinead is there > > worst= almost everything > > > > 31- Release > > the best= Sinead ghost / the images like a collage > > worst= some boring images > > > > 32- No man's woman > > the best= the pregnant bride outside the church / Sinead's wig / he car in > > the sea > > worst= the rasta holding the wig at the end > > > > > > well that was all > > > > bye > > G > From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 12:21:35 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id MAA25662 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 12:21:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from c0mailgw02.prontomail.com ([216.163.180.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id MAA25658 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 12:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from c5web110 (216.163.180.10) by c0mailgw02.prontomail.com (NPlex 4.5.049) id 39AC3DA800076C58 for jitr@postmodern.com; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 12:21:19 -0700 X-Version: ireland 6.2.3.2329.0 From: "Viera Novakova" Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 21:26:25 +0200 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Sinead on TV X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi! Well this is interesting only for people in Europe. Especially those who live in Czech Republic or somewhere near and are able to watch CT2. Because they are going to air an interview with Sinead on next Friday at 23.45 CET. There should be an interview and some music. Peace Viera _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 12:32:37 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id MAA25701 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 12:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail5.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id MAA25697 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 12:32:32 -0700 (PDT) From: JMESBAEHI@mgfairfax.rr.com Received: from a ([24.28.210.221]) by mail5.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sat, 2 Sep 2000 15:32:40 -0400 Message-ID: <000501c01514$c2311660$0200a8c0@cox.rr.com> To: References: Subject: Re: Sinead on TV Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 15:34:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Good. It appears her European campaign has begun. Guys, will you make these into computer audio/video files? I think we should start sharing them. Ardeshir > Hi! > > Well this is interesting only for people in Europe. Especially those who live in Czech Republic > or somewhere near and are able to watch CT2. Because they are going to air an interview with > Sinead on next Friday at 23.45 CET. There should be an interview and some music. > > Peace > Viera From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 13:08:53 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id NAA25752 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 13:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f101.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.101]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id NAA25748 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 13:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 13:08:48 -0700 Received: from 212.98.11.44 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 02 Sep 2000 20:08:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.98.11.44] From: "Deniz Cebe" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Q out now! Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 23:08:48 EEST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Sep 2000 20:08:48.0387 (UTC) FILETIME=[9AEB9530:01C01519] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi there, Q's October issue (Thom Yorke on the cover) is out, featuring a special Cash For Questions section with Ms. O'Connor. Cheers, Deniz ____________________________________________________________ UNIVERSAL MOTHER >> http://dcebe.tripod.com/main.htm THE SINÉAD O'CONNOR SITE >> http://sinead-oconnor.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 13:11:27 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id NAA25788 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 13:11:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe2.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.49]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id NAA25784 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 13:11:23 -0700 (PDT) From: JMESBAEHI@mgfairfax.rr.com Received: from a ([24.28.210.221]) by mail2.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sat, 2 Sep 2000 16:11:36 -0400 Message-ID: <001601c0151a$31fd7100$0200a8c0@cox.rr.com> To: Subject: I like Ireland Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 16:13:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C014F8.A9F933A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C014F8.A9F933A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It looks like Irish music is becoming the new trend, with the Corrs = getting so much attention recently. Does anyone know what Sinead thinks = about the Corrs? The girls in this band are gorgeous, and there's = nothing sexier than a girl drummer. Later. I would run away... Ardeshir ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C014F8.A9F933A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It looks like Irish music is becoming the new trend, with the Corrs = getting=20 so much attention recently. Does anyone know what Sinead thinks about = the Corrs?=20 The girls in this band are gorgeous, and there's nothing sexier than a = girl=20 drummer. Later.
 
I would run away...
Ardeshir
------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C014F8.A9F933A0-- From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 13:48:08 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id NAA25840 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 13:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f88.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.88]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id NAA25836 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 13:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 13:48:00 -0700 Received: from 212.98.11.44 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 02 Sep 2000 20:48:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.98.11.44] From: "Deniz Cebe" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: CDNOW lists Jealous Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 23:48:00 EEST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Sep 2000 20:48:00.0774 (UTC) FILETIME=[150D5A60:01C0151F] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ CDNOW now has Jealous CD-single listed, available as a pre-order. The price is $11.99 and the relase date is Sep 12. No cover art yet. Deniz _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 14:07:41 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id OAA25881 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe2.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.49]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id OAA25877 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:07:37 -0700 (PDT) From: JMESBAEHI@mgfairfax.rr.com Received: from a ([24.28.210.221]) by mail2.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sat, 2 Sep 2000 17:07:46 -0400 Message-ID: <000a01c01522$06add1e0$0200a8c0@cox.rr.com> To: Subject: crazy record companies Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 17:09:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C01500.7F590E60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C01500.7F590E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Who the heck would pay twelve dollars for a single when they could get = the whole albumn for the same price? Can you say greedy? Ardeshir=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C01500.7F590E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Who the heck=20 would pay twelve dollars for a single when they could get the whole = albumn for=20 the same price? Can you say greedy?
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C01500.7F590E60-- From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 14:28:53 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id OAA25917 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.3]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id OAA25913 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:28:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Gogobooty3@aol.com Received: from Gogobooty3@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.15.) id m.42.a3e3cbe (3936) for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 17:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42.a3e3cbe.26e2cb09@aol.com> Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 17:28:41 EDT Subject: "righteous babes" To: jitr@postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 111 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ hi kids--- i saw "righteous babes" last year in san francisco and it was very good. even with all sorts of cool rock chicks in the film, sinead was the best thing in it. she had long hair and glassy stoner eyes and she was actually kind of pudgy. she had all sorts of sassy things to say and my two friends agreed she was super-solid. i dunno if it's on video, but folks should look for it. this movie also made me want to check out skunk anasie (spell check please, i'm not at home to look at the cd). peace & love--- claudia From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 19:23:18 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id TAA26078 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 19:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from loom.online.ee (loom.online.ee [194.106.96.5]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with SMTP id TAA26071 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 19:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7457 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2000 04:23:37 +0200 Received: from hi1-solo-25.dyn.online.ee (HELO user) (213.180.14.25) by loom.online.ee with SMTP; 3 Sep 2000 04:23:37 +0200 Message-ID: <008e01c01545$9feb5260$190eb4d5@user> Reply-To: "PK" From: "PK" To: "jitr@postmodern.com" References: <001501c0150b$61b8d2e0$7f2d02c8@m> Subject: Re: my review.... continues (ooops) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 04:23:50 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ > 10- Three babies > (my fav video) > the best= the images are beautiful / when Sinead is sleeping close to the > horse and how the ears of the horse moves when sinead sings loud The horse is listening?!? (sorry, couldn't help it...) > 26- This is to mother you > the best= the idea of 1 camara shoot and going spinning from her face 'till > the whole body > worst= Sinead'a wig/ Pthe aprtner --> she's not in love with thta man (who > is him?) Kris Kristofferson- actor/singer/songwriter whose movies Sinéad used enjoy watching (in her childhood, of course...) . In one Q interview she said she could have handled the booing fuckers at the Dylan concert had not Kris Kristofferson walked on to give her "well-meant but chauvinistic" support. Some time ago (before the video was shot) this guy wrote a song about her. I think it was called Sinead My Sister or sth similar. pk From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 19:23:22 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id TAA26092 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 19:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from loom.online.ee (loom.online.ee [194.106.96.5]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with SMTP id TAA26076 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 19:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7463 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2000 04:23:39 +0200 Received: from hi1-solo-25.dyn.online.ee (HELO user) (213.180.14.25) by loom.online.ee with SMTP; 3 Sep 2000 04:23:39 +0200 Message-ID: <008f01c01545$a13b03e0$190eb4d5@user> Reply-To: "PK" From: "PK" To: "jitr@postmodern.com" Cc: "Eugenia Andino" References: Subject: Videoclips & Righteous Babes Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 04:23:55 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-4" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi, I also think that showing Sinéad dressed up as Jeanne d'Arc was a great idea. Fight back! Destroy the sucker! This video is absolutely wonderful! I don't know what the (record-buying) public expects when it comes to her videos. (Only close-up scenes of her face? She is stunningly beautiful, yes, but can't they come up with some new ideas? Another video telling a progressive story would be nice.) You Do Sth To Me is also one of my favourites. Not because she has a wig but 'cause I love the atmosphere of that era. A stylish video. I also love Visions Of You. She looks relaxed (& stoned). The visual part matces the music perfectly (as in You Do...). I can feel that video not only see... and it feels like a good trip... > Is "Venus as a boy" the video in which Björk makes some fried eggs? Yep. > >BTW has anybody seen a documentary called "The Righteous Babes" (about > >Sinead O'Connor, Ani DiFranco & Madonna...)??? > Ani and Sinéad in the same documentary?!?! Cool! Can you give any info on it > (who made it, when, etc)? Some more inf about it- http://www.weeklywire.com/ww/08-16-99/boston_music_2.html Filmmaker Pratibha Parmar explores the popular issue of '90s women in rock in her 1998 documentary The Righteous Babes, which takes its name from that of Ani DiFranco's independent record label, Righteous Babe. The film, which is screening this month at the Museum of Fine Arts, offers an overview of the inroads feminism has made into popular music over the past decade. There are interviews with a number of familiar women in rock -- Sinéad O'Connor, Tori Amos, and Ani DiFranco from the new school, Chrissie Hynde from the old -- as well as with feminist spokeswomen/theorists like Camille Paglia, Andrea Dworkin, and Gloria Steinem. And those are intercut nicely with video footage and snippets of songs by Hole, Juliana Hatfield, Garbage, and others. "Bold, ballsy, and loud," is how one of the film's voiceovers characterizes today's rock woman. It's a blatant reminder that it isn't always the commodifiers doing the commodifying. But what's interesting about The Righteous Babes isn't that the filmmaker herself so readily becomes complicit in transforming the work of a Tori Amos or an Ani DiFranco into what Frith called "(nonthreatening) confirmations of conventional taste" -- rather, it's the tension between what Parmar (with support from Paglia, Dworkin, and Steinem) is trying to assert and the views that most of the artists she interviews are attempting to express. Parmar's on a mission to bring artists with aims as disparate as Hole's Courtney Love and Republica's Saffron, Garbage's Shirley Manson and Skunk Anansie's Skin, together as a genre to be known as women in rock, excluding "fake" women in pop like the Spice Girls (even though Saffron has more in common with Posh Spice than with Courtney Love). Meanwhile, DiFranco explains that "I haven't brought feminism to my music consciously," and O'Connor points out that "many female artists are reluctant to call themselves feminists." You don't get the sense that DiFranco, O'Connor, or any of the other women in The Righteous Babes wants to disavow feminism itself, only that they're not comfortable feeding a system that 10 years down the road will happily reduce their work to yet another new oldies format, one specializing in the best feminist dance hits of the '90s. --- If anybody is interested in buying then- http://www.wmm.com/advscripts/ctmnfrm.asp?source=catpgfrm.asp?recid=442 is the address. I should warn you about the price, I suppose-> rental video $90.00 VHS Sale $295.00 (It's probably meant for TV stations & film festivals) But there is a cheaper way. I found a site- http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/users/01/laurac/videos.html (apparently owned by a Tori Amos fan) where the owner has it in the list of her videos (NTSC/NORTH AMERICAN FORMAT). It's written there that at the moment she's unable to copy videos but she'll post a notice as soon as she can do it again. Anyway, her e-mail is laurac@merlin.sccs.swarthmore.edu pk From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 19:29:29 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id TAA26151 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 19:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com (mail6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id TAA26147 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 19:29:26 -0700 (PDT) From: JMESBAEHI@mgfairfax.rr.com Received: from a ([24.28.210.221]) by Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sat, 2 Sep 2000 22:29:33 -0400 Message-ID: <000901c0154e$ffdd4ee0$0200a8c0@cox.rr.com> To: References: <001501c0150b$61b8d2e0$7f2d02c8@m> <008e01c01545$9feb5260$190eb4d5@user> Subject: Re: my review.... continues (ooops) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 22:31:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Isn't he a racist? He's always playing racists in movies. Ardeshir > Kris Kristofferson- actor/singer/songwriter whose movies Sinéad used enjoy > watching (in her childhood, of course...) . In one Q interview she said she > could have handled the booing fuckers at the Dylan concert had not Kris > Kristofferson walked on to give her "well-meant but chauvinistic" support. > Some time ago (before the video was shot) this guy wrote a song about her. I > think it was called Sinead My Sister or sth similar. > > pk From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 19:56:42 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id TAA26206 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 19:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com (mail6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id TAA26202 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 19:56:39 -0700 (PDT) From: JMESBAEHI@mgfairfax.rr.com Received: from a ([24.28.210.221]) by Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sat, 2 Sep 2000 22:56:51 -0400 Message-ID: <001501c01552$cff33ce0$0200a8c0@cox.rr.com> To: References: <008f01c01545$a13b03e0$190eb4d5@user> Subject: I will learn how to sink, and to swim Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 22:58:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-4" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Ani DiFranco's copied certain aspects of Sinead's singing style. In the beginning of just like u said it would be where Sinead sings I will learn how to sink and to swim, you can hear DiFranco's general singing style in how Sinead sings how to sink. Just an observation. Ardeshir > > BTW has anybody seen a documentary called "The Righteous Babes" (about > > Sinead O'Connor, Ani DiFranco & Madonna...)??? > > Ani and Sinéad in the same documentary?!?! Cool! Can you give any info on it From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 20:35:04 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id UAA26275 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 20:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mcb@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id UAA26268 for jitr@server.postmodern.com; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 20:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from priv0.onet.pl (priv0.onet.pl [213.180.128.80]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id MAA25738 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 12:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from localhost user: 'root' uid#0 fake: pa241.piotrkow.ppp.tpnet.pl ([212.160.31.241]:1029 "HELO barabasz")) by priv0.onet.pl with SMTP id ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 21:53:26 +0200 Message-ID: <004e01c01518$7894f400$f11fa0d4@barabasz> From: "ebar" To: Subject: My one and only Godess... Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 21:36:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi All!!! I`m so happy, I was jumping all over the apartmant!!! A few minutes ago I bought "Machina" - a polish magazine, in which I found a long, great interwiev with Sinead!!!! The interwiev is really deep, not the stuff like "how often do you have sex"... I`ll try to translate it into English and send it to you, if you want to... but I don`t know how it`s gonna work... Hurrey hurrey hurrey!!!!!! I love Her so much... Emily From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 20:37:22 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id UAA26339 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 20:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mcb@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id UAA26332 for jitr@server.postmodern.com; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 20:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web2004.mail.yahoo.com (web2004.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.204]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with SMTP id QAA25989 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 16:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18953 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Sep 2000 23:19:04 -0000 Message-ID: <20000902231904.18952.qmail@web2004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.169.52.136] by web2004.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 02 Sep 2000 16:19:04 PDT Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 16:19:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lion Cobra Reply-To: lion_cobra@yahoo.com Subject: Live Performances To: jitr@postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi, I just wanted to ask anyone who uses napster if they have a live version of jump in the river or jerusalem. I am trying to find some live performances and I can't seem to find anything much from lion and the cobra..so if you have any of those 2 mp3's in your napster library, please let me know. thanks, lion ===== God commanded his angels concerning you To protect you in all your ways They will carry you up in their arms To keep your foot from striking a stone You will tread upon the lion and the cobra You will trample the great lion and serpent __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 20:38:04 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id UAA26402 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 20:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe2.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.49]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id UAA26394 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 20:38:00 -0700 (PDT) From: JMESBAEHI@mgfairfax.rr.com Received: from a ([24.28.210.221]) by mail2.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sat, 2 Sep 2000 23:38:11 -0400 Message-ID: <000501c01558$94479b40$0200a8c0@cox.rr.com> To: References: <004e01c01518$7894f400$f11fa0d4@barabasz> Subject: Re: My one and only Godess... Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 23:39:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi Emily, I love her interviews. Would you please translate it. Ardeshir > Hi All!!! > > I`m so happy, I was jumping all over the apartmant!!! A few > minutes ago I bought "Machina" - a polish magazine, in which > I found a long, great interwiev with Sinead!!!! The interwiev > is really deep, not the stuff like "how often do you have > sex"... I`ll try to translate it into English and > send it to you, if you want to... but I don`t know how it`s > gonna work... > Hurrey hurrey hurrey!!!!!! > > I love Her so much... > > Emily From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 20:59:50 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id UAA26473 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 20:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail5.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id UAA26469 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 20:59:46 -0700 (PDT) From: JMESBAEHI@mgfairfax.rr.com Received: from a ([24.28.210.221]) by mail5.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sat, 2 Sep 2000 23:59:58 -0400 Message-ID: <000a01c0155b$9dc7d420$0200a8c0@cox.rr.com> To: Subject: Ani DiFranco and my stupid comment Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 00:01:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0153A.1669E8E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0153A.1669E8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, that comment about Ani DiFranco copying Sinead was too simplistic. = Sorry. It was a stupid thing to say. Waiting for Emily's interview. Ardeshir ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0153A.1669E8E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey, that comment about Ani DiFranco copying Sinead was too = simplistic.=20 Sorry. It was a stupid thing to say.
 
Waiting for Emily's interview.
 
 
Ardeshir
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0153A.1669E8E0-- From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 23:00:22 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id XAA26555 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 23:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id XAA26551 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 23:00:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Wir113@aol.com Received: from Wir113@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.15.) id c.64.636ac0b (10052) for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 02:00:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <64.636ac0b.26e342eb@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 02:00:11 EDT Subject: Sinead videos To: jitr@server.postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 107 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I have read all the postings on these Sinead videos and I am at a loss b/c the only videos I have ever seen are Nothing Compares 2 U, Emporer's New Clothes, and This Is To Mother You. I feel left out. Does any one on the list have a good quality copy of these on VHS that they would be able to dub? I would love to be able to see them. Let me know if anyone could do this. Thank you. -Shannon From jitr-owner Sun Sep 3 04:47:55 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id EAA26699 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 04:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f261.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.136]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id EAA26695 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 04:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 04:47:50 -0700 Received: from 62.82.87.233 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 03 Sep 2000 11:47:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.82.87.233] From: "Eugenia Andino" To: JMESBAEHI@mgfairfax.rr.co, jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Ani DiFranco and your ... comment Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 13:47:50 CEST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Sep 2000 11:47:50.0555 (UTC) FILETIME=[C97826B0:01C0159C] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi Ardeshir, I was very reluctant to mention Ani in the list because I know that the women-in-rock subject is spiky (anybody remember Alanis?). But I think this moment is good to say why I think that *in a way* Ani is "superior", if absolutely NOT a better singer, than Sinéad. The key of Ani´s work is that it is (mostly) self-produced and (completely) self-published. She is truly "independent" in a world where "indie music" is just a way of saying "Oasis-Radiohead-insert name here" soundalike. What happens when you make your own record company? first, that you don't get rich. If you want any complicated production, you will have to learn how to do it yourself. If you want to tour, you will probably sleep in your own car. And so on. Luckily, after some years of pure survival Ani had luck and started to bwcome famous. And what did she do with the money? Only one thng: make her sound more sophisticated. Second consequence of being your own record company: you have absolute power and absolute control over the result. No one can tell you what you can sing and what you can't. There are no "Dancing Lessons", no "Jealous", no "this doesn't sound like a Sinéad album". No compromise with the record company and no producers of Natalie Imbruglia ruining your work. Ani is not as controversial as Sinéad, partly because her audience is smaller, but she is a million times more brave. What would have happened if, instead joining Atlantic, Sinéad would have created her own company or joined a small one? Maybe there would have been no Queen Latifah show, but then, Faith and Courage would have sound truer. Eugenia. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From jitr-owner Sun Sep 3 08:35:47 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id IAA26812 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 08:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outgoing.redshift.com (outgoing.redshift.com [216.228.2.99]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id IAA26808 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 08:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.redshift.com (mail.redshift.com [216.228.2.86]) by outgoing.redshift.com (8.9.3/) with ESMTP id IAA06250 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 08:36:12 -0700 Received: from default (pm1-41.corp.redshift.com [216.228.4.41]) by mail.redshift.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id e83Fb1b08085 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 08:37:01 -0700 Message-ID: <000901c015bd$8384e1e0$2904e4d8@default> From: "Rastafario" To: Subject: Understand..But Thoroughly Disagree Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 08:42:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I understand what you are saying about DeFranco and her music, and her "independence," Eugenia, but I totally disagree and think it's a case of comparing apples and oranges. I also think it's just a touch naive to dismiss songs like "Dancing Lessons" or "Jealous" as being somehow "less true" or sincere, artistically, than something DeFranco has produced. If Sinead is compelled to write a lyric like "I don't deserve to be lonely, just because you say I do," then I find that lyric to be as sincere and as compelling as, for example, "I am thirty-two flavors and then some." Basically, if Sinead sings it, I believe what she's singing, and there is no more basic a criteria for genuine, successful artistry than that. Besides, what an artist decides to write (or cover from the lyric of another artist) is ALWAYS "true," if it springs from a genuine desire to communicate a feeling or express the soul artistically. Sinead has always done that, whether she's producing and singing one of her own songs, or whether she's covering the amazing work of another artist. She has never compromised her artistry (I don't see how anyone can make a case for that in any way at all), and she certainly hasn't on this new, amazing record. Besides, how wrong is it to disparage the artistry that goes into that dreaded word..."production."???? I hate to tell you, but ALL music is eventually "produced" to some dergree or another, even DeFranco's. If it's not a capella being sung in your shower, then, honey, chances are it's being PRODUCED. Wyclef jean and Dave Stewart are genuine artists for the power they bring to producing and nurturing the vocal or lyric of another artist...and they are highly respected, talented, valuable artists. Just because someone sings with one acoustic guitar does not immediately signify "better music" or "truer music" or "braver music." Sometimes, it just means "simpler music" or "you can't find anyone who wants to jam with you." On the issue of Sinead's artistic "bravery" and DeFranco's bravery, I don't know where you're coming from. I'd be very careful about implying that Sinead lacks artistic courage in any fashion. I've listened to alot of DeFranco's music and have never found it to be truer, more compelling, more high quality, most honest, or more genuine than Sinead's. Sinead is a pop/rock singer. DeFranco is a folk/coffeehouse singer. Neither genre is automatically more sincere or genuine than the other. Some pop/rock singers are more artistic and sincere than some coffeehouse singers. Some coffeehouse singers are more artistic than some pop/rock singers. Simple as that. And, in this world, it's hard to criticize any artist who wants to find representation to promote and distribute their work to the largest number of people possible. That's a wise decision on the part of any artist, for promotion is not necessarily a 'fun" thing to do (believe me) and the more someone else can take that burden from your shoulders, the more time your artist has to write, write, write and sing, sing, sing...and experience. If DeFranco wants to sleep in a car and travel on her tours, then that's her business. I don't necessarily think it makes her more courageous or artistic. Believe me, rodeo clowns travel by car from gig to gig, too (not that I'm comparing Ani and rodeo clowns!). Just because DeFranco has chosen to take the tough route doesn't make her better. It just means that she's got it tougher, like a lot of unsigned artists. Frankly, I think she should give herself a break and find a label that WILL allow her to have complete artistic control. There are labels like that out there, believe me. She should shop around again...if she wants. So you see, it's apples and oranges. I give DeFranco credit for working so hard to build her following, but the fact remains that there are many people who are not surprised she does not have a major record deal...there are many who believe she's just a hard-working amateur. Others swear by her. Go figure! I tend to fall in the middle. I think she's got alot of talent, but I don't think there's that much to distinguish her from hordes of other coffeehouse artists I see at the local java joint from time to time. I do believe she's far more industrious than most coffeehouse artists, that's for sure. But that just makes her more diligent, not necessarily more talented or "artistic." Hopefully, I got my point across about the silliness of calling one artist truer than another because of greater or lesser production values or bigger record deals or lesser ones, tv gigs or coffeehouse gigs, etc. I hope I made it somewhat clear that coffeehouse stars are not necesssarily more brave or genuine than pop stars, or vice versa. Indeed, some coffeehouse stars end up as pop stars, and some pop stars go back to being coffeehouse stars. It's the cruel working of the universe, huh? The only time an artist is lousy is when they clearly have no appreciable talent or skill at all, or when they sing without sincerity of soul or experience of soul. Neither Sinead nor DeFranco could be accused of those things in any significant fashion. That we can certainly agree upon. jah Wobbles but He Don't fall Down... Jake From jitr-owner Sun Sep 3 11:19:33 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id LAA26950 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 11:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f197.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.197]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id LAA26946 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 11:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 11:19:29 -0700 Received: from 212.98.11.72 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 03 Sep 2000 18:19:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.98.11.72] From: "Deniz Cebe" To: eugenia_andino@hotmail.com, jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Ani DiFranco and your ... comment Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 21:19:29 EEST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Sep 2000 18:19:29.0356 (UTC) FILETIME=[7FD8A0C0:01C015D3] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ >From: "Eugenia Andino" >To: jitr@postmodern.com >Subject: Re: Ani DiFranco and your ... comment >Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 13:47:50 CEST >Second consequence of being your own record company: you have absolute >power and absolute control over the result. No one can tell you what you >can sing and what you can't. There are no "Dancing Lessons", no "Jealous", >no "this doesn't sound like a Sinéad album". No compromise with the record >company and no producers of Natalie Imbruglia ruining your work. I believe Sinéad is tough and experienced enough not to let other people interfere with her music in a direction which she does not support. Take a song like I Want Your Hands On Me, which is produced by Sinéad and from an album conservative fans are very fond of. Now tell me if there is any difference between that 80's funky disco pastiche and Dancing Lessons, an elegant hip-hop flavoured pop song which finds Sinéad in great vocal performance. Sinéad has always been open to collaborations and I think this is what has made her music exctining for 13 years. She does possess such a great talent that, with each new collaborator, she discovers a new and untouched dimension. Deniz ____________________________________________________________ UNIVERSAL MOTHER >> http://dcebe.tripod.com/main.htm THE SINÉAD O'CONNOR SITE >> http://sinead-oconnor.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From jitr-owner Sun Sep 3 12:38:41 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id MAA27129 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail5.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id MAA27125 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:38:36 -0700 (PDT) From: JMESBAEHI@mgfairfax.rr.com Received: from a ([24.163.104.96]) by mail5.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sun, 3 Sep 2000 15:38:49 -0400 Message-ID: <000d01c015de$caa35a40$0200a8c0@cox.rr.com> To: References: Subject: The Trojan Horse Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 15:40:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ http://www.columbia.edu/~marg/ani/ Q: Does it worry you to see big corporations like SFX taking over so much of the concert business. A: Totally. But it's just part and parcel of the whole corporate encroachment on every aspect of our lives. I mean, it's hard to hear music or eat food or buy anything that's not brought to you by some enormous multinational entity. Q: From a philosophical point of view that can be pretty discouraging, but is it also starting to affect the way you do business from a practical perspective? A: It's always been a problem. But it's just one of many. And it's a battle that's well worth fighting. Fortunately, it's something that the folks at Righteous Babe and my booking agent take care of. I just tend to show up and play when they tell me to play. Q: But Righteous Babe is your deal? A: It is. I'm there when I'm not on the road, which is pretty rarely. And I'm there in terms of a lot of the major decisions. And of course I make the records and I started the thing. But the other half of Righteous Babe is Scot Fisher, my manager, and he does the day-to-day work. It's his evil genius that's made it all happen on that end. He's a very political person. He sets the tone for how we do business. Q: Have business responsibilities ever distracted you from making music? A: It's totally distracting. It eats my head. Reinventing the wheel for yourself in order to just drive yourself around is a lot of work. But it's a really good feeling not to have to compromise yourself politically or ideologically in the ways that I would have to if I was going to play the corporate game. And being my own boss is very important to me because there are certain things I don't like to do. I don't do in-stores, and I don't go to radio stations to promote my records. And I don't do a lot of interviews these days, because I have limited time and energy and I'd rather being making art. Q: You'd already established yourself before the Internet became an issue, but don't you think it would have been a useful tool when you were just starting out? A: This is going to sound goofy, but I honestly think that even if the technology had been there, I wouldn't have been interested. Because my focus was never on selling my records. Back when I had no money and I made my first little tape on cassette because I couldn't afford a CD, I was just focused on playing music for people and getting gigs. That's where all my inspiration came from. I would sell my tapes in bars, but I didn't give any thought to things like distribution for years. And even when it came time to deal with that stuff, I was so uninterested that I let my manager handle it. I just want to be able to get in my car, go to a room somewhere, and interact with the people I'm playing for. Plus, there's the beauty of going to an independent record store where there's a real person behind the counter who might actually run the joint. Then you have human interaction, communication about art, networking, and all of those things that are so important. Because I think of art as a social act, not really a product. Q: In other words, you don't have to focus on the business side of things in order to succeed. A: Absolutely. I think there must be a way to have a job and make a living through art without becoming commercially focused. If there isn't, then just fucking shoot us all now. ---------- Hi Eugenia, It's good that we talk about spiky subjects. Maybe in the beginning Sinead was more naive that Ani, but Sinead's strategy was for a certain time just as effective as Ani's. Sinead was the infiltrating saboteur working from the inside while Ani is the jungle guerrilla freedom fighter raising her army independently and taking their power from the outside. Both strategies can be just as successful. But then again, Sinead's strategy only works in the beginning when they don't know who you really are. So you really only have a short time period to do your job. I think that time for Sinead was in the beginning and she can't use them like that anymore. So yes, I do think she should make her way to Ani's side eventually. That's what it comes down to and that is the culture I was advocating when I first joined this list. I don't think Sinead is less brave because she's been working to achieve the same goals. Just not in the same way. You can say she took a shortcut. Yes I'm sad that Sinead has had to comprimise but that doesn't mean the music on her albumns is the only music she writes. I think this isn't that big of a loss because of that. She can always put her own music out later when she wants. She also took a lot of abuse for how she approached this and that makes me sad too. Of course I'm not against business, for those of you who might think that or might want to argue that against me, because trade is a natural part of life and it's good, there's nothing wrong with it. Business is not the problem. The problem is domination and exploitation. I don't know agree that you can't be rich running your own record company. I mean, all record companies are somebody's own record company. Ardeshir Hi Ardeshir, I was very reluctant to mention Ani in the list because I know that the women-in-rock subject is spiky (anybody remember Alanis?). But I think this moment is good to say why I think that *in a way* Ani is "superior", if absolutely NOT a better singer, than Sinéad. The key of Ani´s work is that it is (mostly) self-produced and (completely) self-published. She is truly "independent" in a world where "indie music" is just a way of saying "Oasis-Radiohead-insert name here" soundalike. What happens when you make your own record company? first, that you don't get rich. If you want any complicated production, you will have to learn how to do it yourself. If you want to tour, you will probably sleep in your own car. And so on. Luckily, after some years of pure survival Ani had luck and started to bwcome famous. And what did she do with the money? Only one thng: make her sound more sophisticated. Second consequence of being your own record company: you have absolute power and absolute control over the result. No one can tell you what you can sing and what you can't. There are no "Dancing Lessons", no "Jealous", no "this doesn't sound like a Sinéad album". No compromise with the record company and no producers of Natalie Imbruglia ruining your work. Ani is not as controversial as Sinéad, partly because her audience is smaller, but she is a million times more brave. What would have happened if, instead joining Atlantic, Sinéad would have created her own company or joined a small one? Maybe there would have been no Queen Latifah show, but then, Faith and Courage would have sound truer. Eugenia. From jitr-owner Sun Sep 3 13:46:39 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id NAA27184 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 13:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com (mail6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id NAA27180 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 13:46:35 -0700 (PDT) From: JMESBAEHI@mgfairfax.rr.com Received: from a ([24.163.104.96]) by Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sun, 3 Sep 2000 16:46:46 -0400 Message-ID: <000a01c015e8$487e3300$0200a8c0@cox.rr.com> To: Subject: Ted Turner Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 16:48:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C015C6.C1296F80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C015C6.C1296F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey and don't forget the same guy who owns Atlantic Records owns CNN. :) Ardeshir ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C015C6.C1296F80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey and don't forget the same guy who = owns Atlantic=20 Records owns CNN. :)
 
Ardeshir
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C015C6.C1296F80-- From jitr-owner Sun Sep 3 13:49:46 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id NAA27220 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 13:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com (mail6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id NAA27216 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 13:49:41 -0700 (PDT) From: JMESBAEHI@mgfairfax.rr.com Received: from a ([24.163.104.96]) by Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sun, 3 Sep 2000 16:49:54 -0400 Message-ID: <001401c015e8$b89f0880$0200a8c0@cox.rr.com> To: Subject: Re: Ted Turner Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 16:51:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C015C7.316BD6C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C015C7.316BD6C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh so no wonder they had that bit on Sinead on CNN Headlines News. I = didn't realize that at the time. Very funny. Hey and don't forget the same guy who owns Atlantic Records owns CNN. = :) Ardeshir ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C015C7.316BD6C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Oh so no wonder they had that bit on = Sinead on CNN=20 Headlines News. I didn't realize that at the time. Very = funny.

Hey and don't forget the same guy who = owns=20 Atlantic Records owns CNN. :)
 
Ardeshir
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C015C7.316BD6C0-- From jitr-owner Sun Sep 3 17:24:35 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id RAA27511 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 17:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from courier01.adinet.com.uy (courier01.adinet.com.uy [206.99.44.235]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id RAA27507 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 17:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m (r200-2-35-239.adinet.com.uy [200.2.35.239]) by courier01.adinet.com.uy (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA06211; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:27:11 -0300 (GMT) Message-ID: <001001c01607$90b902c0$ef2302c8@m> From: "vIcKy + gUs" To: Cc: Subject: the EARS of the horse (lol) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:18:05 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ > 10- Three babies > (my fav video) > the best= the images are beautiful / when Sinead is sleeping close to the > horse and how the ears of the horse moves when sinead sings loud >The horse is listening?!? sure! the horseis listening... I am absolutely sure! i dont think is funny it's... lovely! From jitr-owner Sun Sep 3 19:04:11 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id TAA27700 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 19:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.50]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id TAA27696 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 19:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from robertsc.ride.ri.net ([12.79.193.90]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20000904020407.CVIG6375.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@robertsc.ride.ri.net> for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 02:04:07 +0000 From: "gordon" To: Subject: 2 MINT SINEAD Eps Cd Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 22:18:57 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000904020407.CVIG6375.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@robertsc.ride.ri.net> Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ 425515258: Sinead O'Connor MINTNEW2CD MY SPECIAL CHILD FIRE ON BABYLON Auction ends on: Sep-07-00 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=425515258 From jitr-owner Sun Sep 3 20:57:32 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id UAA27787 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 20:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id UAA27783 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 20:57:28 -0700 (PDT) From: CranAngel@aol.com Received: from CranAngel@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.15.) id m.e8.9734967 (3700) for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:57:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:57:22 EDT Subject: Lois+Sinead in People Magazine To: jitr@postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 120 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hey everyone! There's a picture of Lois getting her head shaved by Sinead in the newest People magazine (Rob Lowe on cover). This is from the Queen Latifah show, of course. Elonna :) From jitr-owner Mon Sep 4 01:05:41 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id BAA27898 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 01:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f269.hotmail.com [216.32.180.227]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id BAA27894 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 01:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 01:05:37 -0700 Received: from 193.133.137.241 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 04 Sep 2000 08:05:36 GMT X-Originating-IP: [193.133.137.241] From: "ninth wave" To: dcebe@hotmail.com, jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Q out now! Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 09:05:36 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2000 08:05:37.0168 (UTC) FILETIME=[E8908100:01C01646] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi Sinead's Cash for Qs appears next issue - postponed due to illness - Bjork's anwsers appear in this issue. Cheers Mandy >From: "Deniz Cebe" >To: jitr@postmodern.com >Subject: Q out now! >Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 23:08:48 EEST > >Hi there, > >Q's October issue (Thom Yorke on the cover) is out, >featuring a special Cash For Questions section with >Ms. O'Connor. > >Cheers, > >Deniz > >____________________________________________________________ >UNIVERSAL MOTHER >> http://dcebe.tripod.com/main.htm >THE SINÉAD O'CONNOR SITE >> http://sinead-oconnor.com > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From jitr-owner Mon Sep 4 01:08:52 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id BAA27935 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 01:08:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id BAA27931 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 01:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fwd02.sul.t-online.com by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 13VrJc-0003fF-03; Mon, 04 Sep 2000 10:09:16 +0200 Received: from (320053607994-0001@[62.158.222.1]) by fwd02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 13VrJS-1TOYpkC; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:09:06 +0200 From: Seemann-Hofheim@t-online.de (seemann) To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: there she goes X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:09:06 +0200 Message-ID: <13VrJS-1TOYpkC@fwd02.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 320053607994-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Jah me dears... Dropped in again to say a few farewell words... Deniz... will you marry me? cenon... you`re a genius. Small pleasures, simple joys weave lovely patterns of contentment in our lives. Ardeshir... thanks for the boots and your loving friendship Roman... Meine Gedichte scheinen ja so richtig eingeschlagen zu haben...der Mann straft mich mit Ignoranz... Dennoch hab ich dich sehr lieb und ich meld mich mal von der grünen Insel Amy... I will practise my Irish!!! I am glad I meet your loving soul. Jakey... I hope you enjoyed your meeting with our Lady..and I hope you won`t forget to visit me in Dub!