From jitr-owner Sun Mar 1 08:39:58 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id IAA11172 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:39:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from atl1.america.net (ns2.america.net [199.170.121.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id IAA11168 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:39:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from LOCALNAME (pm2-23.cpuinc.net [208.155.224.63]) by atl1.america.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA01303 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 11:39:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34F91F28.42C6@cpuinc.net> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 00:41:12 -0800 From: James Robert McGuire Organization: N/A X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Butcher Boy Soundtrack Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I just came across some info while browsing the CD Now site (http://www. cdnow.com). They're already accepting pre-orders for the Butcher Boy Soundtrack. They list March 17th as the expected release date. That's only two weeks from this Tuesday! If they're correct, that is. As far as artists, they list the following, and I quote: O'Connor/McCormack/ Calvert Goldenthal/Santo & Johnny. It is to be on EDEL American Records. We've already read reports that Sinead sings the song "Beautiful Bundoran." She could quite likely also sing the title track, and hopefully many more. We may not have to wait long to find out. Hey! I just realized this release date coincides with St. Patrick's Day! Talk about your Luck of the Irish! If anyone has any more info, post away, please. Take care all. Jim. From jitr-owner Sun Mar 1 08:50:40 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id IAA11242 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:50:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from atl1.america.net (ns2.america.net [199.170.121.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id IAA11237 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:50:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from LOCALNAME (pm2-23.cpuinc.net [208.155.224.63]) by atl1.america.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA06061 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 11:50:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34F921B0.3AD6@cpuinc.net> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 00:52:00 -0800 From: James Robert McGuire Organization: N/A X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Marcel, where are you? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I meant to add this to my previous post. Does anyone know what's become of our Patriarch of the Netherlands, Mr. Bobbink? His Sinead site hasn't been added to since October, and his absence is really startin' to bug me. It was such a crap-free, informative site, and I quite miss his efforts and on-target answers. Furthermore, I e-mailed him that we truly need some adult supervision, and I haven't heard back from him. I hope everything is alright. From jitr-owner Sun Mar 1 10:14:18 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id KAA11527 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:14:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from gold.com.br (gold-3.horizontes.com.br [200.215.160.64]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id KAA11523 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:12:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from default (line0542.horizontes.com.br [200.215.163.251]) by gold.com.br (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA17722; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:34:09 -0300 Message-ID: <34F9B3E8.4FA2@horiz.com.br> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 16:15:53 -0300 From: "Christiane R. Albuquerque" Reply-To: newskria@horiz.com.br X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Robert McGuire CC: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Marcel, where are you? References: <34F921B0.3AD6@cpuinc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ James Robert McGuire wrote: > > I meant to add this to my previous post. Does anyone know what's become > of our Patriarch of the Netherlands, Mr. Bobbink? His Sinead site hasn't > been added to since October, and his absence is really startin' to bug > me. It was such a crap-free, informative site, and I quite miss his > efforts and on-target answers. Furthermore, I e-mailed him that we truly > need some adult supervision, and I haven't heard back from him. I hope > everything is alright. I've been wondering the same.... If anyone hears from him, let us know... Chris (Brazil) -- ************************************************************************ >you could wait for your dreams to come true > but time has no mercy > time won't stand still for you (B.Adams) ************************************************************************ http://members.wbs.net/homepages/k/r/i/krikaa.html From jitr-owner Sun Mar 1 13:00:37 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id NAA11868 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:00:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from er4.rutgers.edu (51675@er4.rutgers.edu [165.230.180.142]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id NAA11864 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:00:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dlmeyer@localhost) by er4.rutgers.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA25836; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 16:00:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 16:00:20 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Meyer To: Ken cc: Ben Adams , Sinead Mailing List Subject: Re: Q abt. Silent Night In-Reply-To: <34F6DC54.4CE8@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I love Sinead's version of "Silent Night," too, and I'm Jewish! In fact, it's one of the few Christmas recordings I can stand, especially during that time of year, when everything on the radio seems merrily yuletide-obsessed and all the malls are red and green. But in contrast to the singers on most of the other Christmas-themed recordings, Sinead seems to genuinely mean what she's saying. --Danny Meyer P.S. I also like Simon and Garfunkel's version, incidentally. From jitr-owner Sun Mar 1 13:29:07 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id NAA11948 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:29:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.34]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id NAA11944 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:28:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from Miasma226@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id QBLZa04319 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 16:27:47 -0500 (EST) From: Miasma226 Message-ID: <8dc7b6a.34f9d2d6@aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 16:27:47 EST To: jitr@postmodern.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: sinead quote Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I found this on the Kate Bush Newsgroup: "Hiya, Going through a back issue of Q (51, dec 90), Sinead O'Connor says on page 111 about singing Don't give up in Chile: 'I did the part that Kate Bush -who I LOVE- did originally. I was thrilled to be Kate Bush but inevitably I made a complete balls of it. But then I couldn't hope to do it anywhere near as well as Kate Bush because she is a Goddess.' " Does anyone know where I can find a copy of this article / interview online? NP: "Blue Skies" Cassandra Wilson don From jitr-owner Sun Mar 1 13:38:51 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id NAA12018 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:38:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from gold.com.br (gold-3.horizontes.com.br [200.215.160.64]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id NAA12014 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:38:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from default (line0541.horizontes.com.br [200.215.163.250]) by gold.com.br (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA30119; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:01:49 -0300 Message-ID: <34F9D678.2013@horiz.com.br> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 18:43:20 -0300 From: "Christiane R. Albuquerque" Reply-To: newskria@horiz.com.br X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Miasma226 CC: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: sinead quote References: <8dc7b6a.34f9d2d6@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Miasma226 wrote: > > I found this on the Kate Bush Newsgroup: > > "Hiya, > > Going through a back issue of Q (51, dec 90), Sinead O'Connor says on > page 111 about singing Don't give up in Chile: 'I did the part that > Kate Bush -who I LOVE- did originally. I was thrilled to be Kate Bush > but inevitably I made a complete balls of it. But then I couldn't > hope to do it anywhere near as well as Kate Bush because she is a > Goddess.' " CAn't believe that! No one sings anything as Sinéad does!!!! Chris (Brazil) -- ************************************************************************ >you could wait for your dreams to come true > but time has no mercy > time won't stand still for you (B.Adams) ************************************************************************ http://members.wbs.net/homepages/k/r/i/krikaa.html From jitr-owner Sun Mar 1 15:32:32 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id PAA12296 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:32:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from callisto.uwinnipeg.ca (brana@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca [142.132.1.23]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id PAA12292 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:32:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (brana@localhost) by callisto.uwinnipeg.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA08060 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 17:37:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 17:37:15 -0600 (CST) From: bilal rana To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: April 18, Sessions At West 54th St Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello jitr, This may have already been posted, but if it hasn't: The Sessions at west 54th st site lists the Sinead episode to be rebroadcast on April 18th. For those of us who missed it in the passed, for weird reasons, maybe we should email our local PBS stations to find out for certain on which date itll air. So that you don't end up with a couple of tapes of Shawn Colvin instead or something funny like that. :) later all, bilal btw, someone emailed me and said the FireonBabylon real audio file was taking much too long to download or somethin like that. if you encountered similar probs, pls email me, and maybe ill just send it to you directly. out From jitr-owner Sun Mar 1 17:00:19 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id RAA12498 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 17:00:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from gold.com.br (gold-3.horizontes.com.br [200.215.160.64]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id QAA12475 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 16:59:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from default (line1021.horizontes.com.br [200.215.160.215]) by gold.com.br (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA08130 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:23:04 -0300 Message-ID: <34FA05A3.295B@horiz.com.br> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 22:04:35 -0300 From: "Christiane R. Albuquerque" Reply-To: newskria@horiz.com.br X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sinead Mailing list Subject: Sinéad and Peter Gabriel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi guys! Could you please clarify me some doubts? It's quite old but it's been bugging me in these last few days... About Sinéad and Peter Gabriel.... I heard three different things: 1) they had an affair 2) she left him, that broke his heart terribly 3) she was very interested on her but he didn't "answer" to her "attacks" ,this was one of the things that contributed to all the pain she was going through at the time of her suicide atempt What of this is true or at least partially true???? And speaking of her suicide attempt, Thank Goodness it never worked, I can't imagine my life without Sinéad's song(that's true!). How was that? I know she got a cocktail of vodka and pills but this didn't work cos some sent-from-heaven soul found her on time or just cos the dosis wasn't high enough? I know it may sound as a morbid curiosity but it's not. I love her music so much that I was really scared when I heard about it. I just wanted to know how things were... Thank you all.... Chris -- ************************************************************************ >you could wait for your dreams to come true > but time has no mercy > time won't stand still for you (B.Adams) ************************************************************************ http://members.wbs.net/homepages/k/r/i/krikaa.html From jitr-owner Sun Mar 1 18:35:16 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id SAA12681 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 18:35:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34FA1A9A.5A3BA370@sprintmail.com> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 18:34:02 -0800 From: "Amira T. Siegel" Reply-To: pterodactyl@sprintmail.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: newskria@horiz.com.br CC: Sinead Mailing list Subject: Re: Sinéad and Peter Gabriel References: <34FA05A3.295B@horiz.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ i read in an interview with sinead that she was interested in peter, both as a father figure and as a lover, but he turned her down because she was so emotionally unstable at that time. after he rejected her, she attempted suicide. that's all i really know about the situation, but i hope this info helps to clarify some things for you :) ami NP: "a perfect indian" Christiane R. Albuquerque wrote: > Hi guys! > > Could you please clarify me some doubts? It's quite old but it's been > bugging me in these last few days... > About Sinéad and Peter Gabriel.... I heard three different things: > 1) they had an affair > 2) she left him, that broke his heart terribly > 3) she was very interested on her but he didn't "answer" to her > "attacks" ,this was one of the things that contributed to all the pain > she was going through at the time of her suicide atempt > > What of this is true or at least partially true???? And speaking of her > suicide attempt, Thank Goodness it never worked, I can't imagine my life > without Sinéad's song(that's true!). How was that? I know she got a > cocktail of vodka and pills but this didn't work cos some > sent-from-heaven soul found her on time or just cos the dosis wasn't > high enough? I know it may sound as a morbid curiosity but it's not. I > love her music so much that I was really scared when I heard about it. I > just wanted to know how things were... > > Thank you all.... > > Chris > > -- > ************************************************************************ > >you could wait for your dreams to come true > > but time has no mercy > > time won't stand still for you > > (B.Adams) > ************************************************************************ > http://members.wbs.net/homepages/k/r/i/krikaa.html From jitr-owner Sun Mar 1 23:44:20 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id XAA13312 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 23:44:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.minn.net (root@mail.minn.net [208.16.88.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id XAA13308; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 23:44:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from h1165.lawson.com (dialup-pm1-10.minn.net [208.16.89.20]) by mail.minn.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA17156; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 01:44:03 -0600 Message-ID: <001c01bd45ae$f1914f20$145910d0@h1165.lawson.com> From: "Holli Marshall" To: "Sinead O'Connor" , "Jitr" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fw:_Sin=E9ad_and_Peter_Gabriel?= Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 01:43:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I read in an interview that she wanted to commit suicide for all the backlash that she was getting from the media regarding SNL.... Also her childhood and going through therapy is a pretty good wack on the head and throws you sideways.... All that and maybe this deal with Peter (I haven't heard about it till now) through her into the depression she was in. My humble opinion, Holli \\\|/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) ---oOOo-(_)-oOOo-------------------------------------- - Holli Marshall's "Triumph Over Tragedy" Mint Green Ribbon Campaign for the Awareness of Abuse Email: hmm@minn.net Website: http://www1.minn.net/~hmm ------------Oooo-------------------------------------- oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) -----Original Message----- From: Amira T. Siegel To: newskria@horiz.com.br Cc: Sinead Mailing list Date: Sunday, March 01, 1998 8:42 PM Subject: Re: Sinéad and Peter Gabriel >i read in an interview with sinead that she was interested in peter, both as a >father figure and as a lover, but he turned her down because she was so emotionally >unstable at that time. after he rejected her, she attempted suicide. that's >all i >really know about the situation, but i hope this info helps to clarify some things >for you :) > >ami > >NP: "a perfect indian" > >Christiane R. Albuquerque wrote: > >> Hi guys! >> >> Could you please clarify me some doubts? It's quite old but it's been >> bugging me in these last few days... >> About Sinéad and Peter Gabriel.... I heard three different things: >> 1) they had an affair >> 2) she left him, that broke his heart terribly >> 3) she was very interested on her but he didn't "answer" to her >> "attacks" ,this was one of the things that contributed to all the pain >> she was going through at the time of her suicide atempt >> >> What of this is true or at least partially true???? And speaking of her >> suicide attempt, Thank Goodness it never worked, I can't imagine my life >> without Sinéad's song(that's true!). How was that? I know she got a >> cocktail of vodka and pills but this didn't work cos some >> sent-from-heaven soul found her on time or just cos the dosis wasn't >> high enough? I know it may sound as a morbid curiosity but it's not. I >> love her music so much that I was really scared when I heard about it. I >> just wanted to know how things were... >> >> Thank you all.... >> >> Chris >> >> -- >> ************************************************************************ >> >you could wait for your dreams to come true >> > but time has no mercy >> > time won't stand still for you >> >> (B.Adams) >> ************************************************************************ >> http://members.wbs.net/homepages/k/r/i/krikaa.html From jitr-owner Mon Mar 2 00:20:46 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id AAA15118 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 00:20:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from po4.wam.umd.edu (po4.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.166]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id AAA15114 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 00:20:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from rac8.wam.umd.edu (robocop@rac8.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.148]) by po4.wam.umd.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA23614; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 03:20:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (robocop@localhost) by rac8.wam.umd.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA12163; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 03:20:29 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rac8.wam.umd.edu: robocop owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 03:20:29 -0500 (EST) From: "([-| F" To: James Robert McGuire cc: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Marcel, where are you? In-Reply-To: <34F921B0.3AD6@cpuinc.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I chatted with Marcel couple weeks ago. He responded that he does not have much net time, that he get's on with less frequency now. I hope he is not having any difficulties with his son Jae ;) -- ([-| F On Sun, 1 Mar 1998, James Robert McGuire wrote: > I meant to add this to my previous post. Does anyone know what's become > of our Patriarch of the Netherlands, Mr. Bobbink? His Sinead site hasn't > been added to since October, and his absence is really startin' to bug > me. It was such a crap-free, informative site, and I quite miss his > efforts and on-target answers. Furthermore, I e-mailed him that we truly > need some adult supervision, and I haven't heard back from him. I hope > everything is alright. > From jitr-owner Mon Mar 2 03:19:01 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id DAA15453 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 03:19:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id DAA15449 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 03:18:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from computer ([195.121.24.81]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with SMTP id AAA57B for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 12:18:09 +0100 X-Sender: anna@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Demo Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 12:16:53 +0100 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Anna Subject: About Marcel Bobbink Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <77178583710.AAA57B@smtp01.wxs.nl> Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Marcel and I live about 30 kilometers away from each other and we sometimes meet, sometimes call each other. Yesterday (Sunday) I had him on the phone. He said that his son is taking much and much more time of him, this coupled with his 40 hour job is almost all the time he has. He only log-in once a week to see the mail. I offered him to help him updating the Sinead page and one of these days (anyway soon) we are going to meet. At least that's what I hope, depending on weather he has time. But basically, there are no major problems (at least he did not tell me them) with him or his son. He just has no free time to reply, update etc. He has his PC in the living room, but his son is starting to walk and touch things so he has to move the PC. But when he is sitting somewhere else, like in the attic then he can not spend time with his girlfriend and/or son and he also wants to do that when he is at home. So that's the story on Marcel. I myself also hope that we can update his page soon, it was for me also a big source of information. Eduard From jitr-owner Mon Mar 2 09:56:54 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id JAA16150 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:56:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from is4.nyu.edu (IS4.NYU.EDU [128.122.253.137]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id JAA16146 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:56:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (kak2395@localhost) by is4.nyu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA23199 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 12:56:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 12:56:39 -0500 (EST) From: Charlie Baltimore To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: The Butcher Boy In-Reply-To: <199803020900.BAA15245@server.postmodern.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I haven't heard anything about the soundtrack, but I saw the preview for the movie, as I've mentioned before. Sinead sang a song over the preview that had the words "the butcher boy" in it, so I assumed that it was a title song. Kevin "I thought I tasted of too many cigarettes, But you tasted of wine" From jitr-owner Mon Mar 2 11:44:48 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id LAA16361 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:44:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34FAADA5.7F08@horiz.com.br> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 10:01:25 -0300 From: "Christiane R. Albuquerque" Reply-To: newskria@horiz.com.br X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pterodactyl@sprintmail.com CC: Sinead Mailing list Subject: Re: Sinéad and Peter Gabriel References: <34FA05A3.295B@horiz.com.br> <34FA1A9A.5A3BA370@sprintmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Thanks for telling!!! I heard so many versions that I got really lost!! Amira T. Siegel wrote: > > i read in an interview with sinead that she was interested in peter, both as a > father figure and as a lover, but he turned her down because she was so emotionally > unstable at that time. after he rejected her, she attempted suicide. that's all i > really know about the situation, but i hope this info helps to clarify some things > for you :) > > ami > > NP: "a perfect indian" > > Christiane R. Albuquerque wrote: > > > Hi guys! > > > > Could you please clarify me some doubts? It's quite old but it's been > > bugging me in these last few days... > > About Sinéad and Peter Gabriel.... I heard three different things: > > 1) they had an affair > > 2) she left him, that broke his heart terribly > > 3) she was very interested on her but he didn't "answer" to her > > "attacks" ,this was one of the things that contributed to all the pain > > she was going through at the time of her suicide atempt > > > > What of this is true or at least partially true???? And speaking of her > > suicide attempt, Thank Goodness it never worked, I can't imagine my life > > without Sinéad's song(that's true!). How was that? I know she got a > > cocktail of vodka and pills but this didn't work cos some > > sent-from-heaven soul found her on time or just cos the dosis wasn't > > high enough? I know it may sound as a morbid curiosity but it's not. I > > love her music so much that I was really scared when I heard about it. I > > just wanted to know how things were... > > > > Thank you all.... > > > > Chris > > > > -- > > ************************************************************************ > > >you could wait for your dreams to come true > > > but time has no mercy > > > time won't stand still for you > > > > (B.Adams) > > ************************************************************************ > > http://members.wbs.net/homepages/k/r/i/krikaa.html -- ************************************************************************ >you could wait for your dreams to come true > but time has no mercy > time won't stand still for you (B.Adams) ************************************************************************ http://members.wbs.net/homepages/k/r/i/krikaa.html From jitr-owner Mon Mar 2 14:12:34 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id OAA16851 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 14:12:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from jetski.cyberTours.com (jetski.cybertours.com [205.139.4.106]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id OAA16847 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 14:12:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ceb (kenn001-58.cybertours.com [208.232.50.58]) by jetski.cyberTours.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA05570 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:12:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FB2D7F.2E2E@cybertours.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 17:06:55 -0500 From: marcus brown Reply-To: elm@cybertours.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: sessions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ can someone give me the homepage for sessions? marcus From jitr-owner Mon Mar 2 17:10:17 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id RAA17133 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:10:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo22.mail.aol.com (imo22.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.150]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id RAA17129 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:10:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from SNORIT@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id ISKOa09340; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:08:51 -0500 (EST) From: SNORIT Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:08:51 EST To: jitr@server.postmodern.com, u2-list@gartholamew.com Cc: U21irish@aol.com, Merdo11@aol.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: For Sinead and U2 fans Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ tonite on the bravo channel in the states they are airing a show called, SHAMROCK AND ROLL Leading musicians like Sinead O'Connor, Van Morrison, Bono of U2 and Shane MacGowan of the Pogues talk about the world-wide influence of Irish rock music on this exclusive profile. (:55) it was on at 7:00 p.m. and will reair tonite at 12:30am(3/2/98). Todd From jitr-owner Mon Mar 2 17:12:54 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id RAA17179 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:12:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.35]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id RAA17175 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:12:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from SNORIT@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id IFWNa03867; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:12:09 -0500 (EST) From: SNORIT Message-ID: <78b1e02e.34fb58ec@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:12:09 EST To: jitr@server.postmodern.com, u2-list@gartholamew.com Cc: U21irish@aol.com, Merdo11@aol.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: More For Sinead and U2 fans Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ if you don't read this in time here are the future dates and times for the Shamrock and Roll: SHAMROCK AND ROLL 3/2: 7pm  3/3: 1:30pm  3/2: 12:30am  3/11: 2:30pm  3/11: 5am  3/14: 1:30pm  3/17: 5:30pm  3/18: 3:30pm  3/31: 2:30pm  Airing on Bravo in case you didn't read the first post. Todd From jitr-owner Mon Mar 2 18:24:37 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id SAA17343 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:24:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net (mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net [206.141.239.142]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id SAA17339 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:24:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ameritech.net ([206.141.209.149]) by mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net (InterMail v03.02.01 118 111) with ESMTP id <19980302123332.DFIF20391@ameritech.net> for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 06:33:32 -0600 Message-ID: <34FAA8CA.25E66C7E@ameritech.net> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 06:40:42 -0600 From: Tom Mohr Reply-To: tmohr@ameritech.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-AIT (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Sinead on US TV References: <199803020900.BAA15245@server.postmodern.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ >From the listings at www.rockontv.com, for today (Monday): 7:00 pm BRV Bravo Profiles Shamrock & Roll looks at Irish music; includes interviews with Sinead O'Connor, singer Bono of U2, Van Morrison, Barry Devlin of Horslips and Shane MacGowan of the Pogues Repeated at 12:30 a.m. tonight. Times are Eastern. Tom 3-2 0640cst np: Celtic Fiddle Fest, Encore From jitr-owner Mon Mar 2 18:35:00 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id SAA17402 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:35:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgate2.telekabel.at (mgate.telekabel.at [195.34.133.21]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id SAA17397 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:34:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803030234.SAA17397@server.postmodern.com> Received: from rstower ([195.34.154.176]) by mgate2.telekabel.at (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0122 ID# 0-37099U5000L5000S0) with SMTP id AAA28442; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:09:29 +0100 From: "Roman Szendrey" To: "Sinead Updates" Cc: "JITR Postings" Subject: update from sinead-oconnor.com Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:10:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ hi, my second server at dowcomputer.com is no longer working so all the links to the pictures and audiofiles were broken for some time. i tried to fix it as good as i could by moving all the files to the sinead-oconnor.com server. unfortunately i'm running out of diskspace so i have the choice of buying some more (which is quite expensive) or just leave away some of the audiofiles. i'll keep you informed... ciao roman -------------------------------------------------- roman szendrey (roman@szendrey.com) http://www.szendrey.com/homepage.htm http://www.sinead-oconnor.com vienna / austria -------------------------------------------------- From jitr-owner Mon Mar 2 22:14:30 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id WAA17919 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:14:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from germany.it.earthlink.net (germany-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.123]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id WAA17915 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:14:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from anything (1Cust61.max2.san-francisco2.ca.ms.uu.net [153.34.181.61]) by germany.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA14840; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:14:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34FB9FDD.4AE8@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 22:14:53 -0800 From: Nic Caciappo Reply-To: nicbeat@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tmohr@ameritech.net CC: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Sinead on US TV References: <199803020900.BAA15245@server.postmodern.com> <34FAA8CA.25E66C7E@ameritech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Tom Mohr wrote: > > >From the listings at www.rockontv.com, for today (Monday): > > 7:00 pm > BRV > Bravo Profiles > Shamrock & Roll looks at Irish > music; includes interviews with > Sinead O'Connor, singer Bono of U2, > Van Morrison, Barry Devlin of > Horslips and Shane MacGowan of > the Pogues > > Repeated at 12:30 a.m. tonight. Times are Eastern. > > Tom 3-2 0640cst > > np: Celtic Fiddle Fest, Encore Thanks for this info Tom. Question: The Celtic Fiddle Festival you are "np".... Is this the new CD, and the master Kevin Burke fiddling around? Awesome musician!!!!!!!! Nic From jitr-owner Tue Mar 3 04:42:02 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id EAA20366 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 04:42:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net (mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net [206.141.239.142]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id EAA20362 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 04:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ameritech.net ([206.141.209.170]) by mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net (InterMail v03.02.01 118 111) with ESMTP id <19980303123346.BICZ28675@ameritech.net> for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 06:33:46 -0600 Message-ID: <34FBFA57.8E1F3041@ameritech.net> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 06:40:55 -0600 From: Tom Mohr Reply-To: tmohr@ameritech.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-AIT (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Celtic Fiddle Festival References: <199803030900.BAA20080@server.postmodern.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Nic asked: > > np: Celtic Fiddle Fest, Encore > > Thanks for this info Tom. Question: The Celtic Fiddle Festival you are > "np".... Is this the new CD, and the master Kevin Burke fiddling around? > Awesome musician!!!!!!!! > I bought the new cd at the Celtic Fiddle Fest show in Chicago this past weekend. If you are into this kind of music, then you do not want to miss this tour. Kevin Burke, Johnny Cunningham and Christian Lemaitre each do sets and then do a set together. Great show. Tom 3-3 0641cst From jitr-owner Tue Mar 3 07:24:54 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id HAA20668 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:24:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.club-internet.fr (root@mail.club-internet.fr [194.158.96.21]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id HAA20664 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:24:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from club-internet.fr (ppp-112-137.villette.club-internet.fr [194.158.112.137]) by mail.club-internet.fr (8.8.8/MGC-970630-No_Relay) with ESMTP id QAA18935 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:24:40 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <34FBFB91.257D88CA@club-internet.fr> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 13:46:09 +0100 From: Bruno AUTIN Reply-To: bautin@club-internet.fr X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "jitr@postmodern.com" Subject: The Lion and the Cobra Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ A friend of mine is a journalist. He 's writing something about the different pictures of the albums may have. I told him that "The Lion and the Cobra" was different in the US ( down head version) of the rest of the world ( shouting version). Has anyone the reason of this ? Please e-mail me to bautin@club-internet.fr From jitr-owner Tue Mar 3 09:41:40 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id JAA21101 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:41:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from node21.frontiernet.net (root@node21.frontiernet.net [209.130.129.196]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id JAA21097 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:41:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from olivia (srv-4-47.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [209.130.130.248]) by node21.frontiernet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAB108642 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:21:52 -0500 Message-Id: <199803031721.MAB108642@node21.frontiernet.net> Reply-To: From: "The Drago-Leafs" To: Subject: Not Sinead :( Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:21:37 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hey everyone, Sorry to use this list for a non-Sinead purpose... This summer my sister (22Y.O.) plans to spend some time living and working in London. She is photographer. Do any of you Londoners have any suggestions for living arrangements? She's looking for something inexpensive -- anyone have a room open for about 6 - 8 weeks? Please let me know at livvy@frontiernet.net THANKS! Deborah NP: nothing -- the baby is sleeping and I'm trying to be quiet From jitr-owner Tue Mar 3 11:34:09 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id LAA21343 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:34:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.38]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id LAA21339 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:34:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from Miasma226@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id QTEAa09367 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:33:29 -0500 (EST) From: Miasma226 Message-ID: <79f2c88.34fc5b0b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:33:29 EST To: jitr@postmodern.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Sinead extras for sale Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Sinead Merchandise for Sale Pruning back my collection a little. If you are interested, you can check out what I have at: http://members.aol.com/Miasma226/Sinead.html There you go...thank you. NP: "Honeymoon Suite" Suzanne Vega From jitr-owner Tue Mar 3 12:46:58 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id MAA21660 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:46:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca (bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca [128.100.132.16]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with SMTP id MAA21656 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:46:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from log3 ([128.100.100.195]) by bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca with SMTP id <161066(7)>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:01:59 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:01:48 -0500 From: suzy.aston@utoronto.ca X-Sender: 04318467@log3 To: Bruno AUTIN cc: "jitr@postmodern.com" Subject: Re: The Lion and the Cobra In-Reply-To: <34FBFB91.257D88CA@club-internet.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Two things, first of all, it was thought that the picture of Dolores screaming (actually singing according to Sinead) would be too much for us puritan north americans...so they changed it. Second of all, you can get the screaming Sinead L&C at HMV for import prices in Toronto. Suzy On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Bruno AUTIN wrote: > A friend of mine is a journalist. He 's writing something about the > different pictures of the albums may have. I told him that "The Lion > and the Cobra" was different in the US ( down head version) of the rest > of the world ( shouting version). > Has anyone the reason of this ? > Please e-mail me to bautin@club-internet.fr > > > From jitr-owner Tue Mar 3 13:37:35 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id NAA21878 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:37:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mmp02.wxs.nl (mmp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id NAA21874 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:37:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from computer ([195.121.24.125]) by mmp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with SMTP id AAA4787 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:36:38 +0100 X-Sender: anna@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Demo Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 22:31:18 +0100 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Anna Subject: SINEAD ITEMS FOR SALE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <771785F1E35.AAA4787@mmp02.wxs.nl> Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi all, Some items from my last Sinead sale did not get sold due to people ordering it but then never getting back to it. So the next items are (once again) available: This is to mother you, Promo cd single p/s $15 Fire on Babylon, 2 track promo cd single (full version and radio edit (els were unavailable)) $15 Michael Collins,cd soundtrack of the movie with 3 Sinead songs on it $15 Blood of Eden & Come talk to me, Both on the Peter Gabriel US cd $15 Ship ahoy, on a cd from the Marxman $15 Be still, very rare cd single, feat remix. Sinead together with Gabriel & F. Sharkey $20 This is a rebel song, 3 track cd single (feat F.O.B. live and redemption song live) $15 [These prices are excluding the costs of sending] For more info on these and some Bjork cd singles feel free to contact me at anna@wxs.nl Eduard From jitr-owner Wed Mar 4 01:39:53 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id BAA24930 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 01:39:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.minn.net (root@mail.minn.net [208.16.88.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id BAA24926; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 01:39:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from h1165.lawson.com (dialup-pm1-17.minn.net [208.16.89.27]) by mail.minn.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA27850; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:38:21 -0600 Message-ID: <002801bd4751$49a1b760$1b5910d0@h1165.lawson.com> From: "Holli Marshall" To: Cc: "Sinead O'Connor" , "Jitr" Subject: Re: The Lion and the Cobra Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:38:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ When I got TLATC imported before she became anything to anyone, I came the "American" variety. Mostly white and blue, with her head shaved, hands on her neck, looking downward. I love the picture. With the music, I personally can relate to her look of saddness and thought. I don't think I would want her screaming, but then again, I haven't seen that one.... Why would they auto import an "American" version? I think there are just many covers. She has done this with other albums. My special child and Universal mother. Peace, Holli \\\|/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) ---oOOo-(_)-oOOo-------------------------------------- - Holli Marshall's "Triumph Over Tragedy" Mint Green Ribbon Campaign for the Awareness of Abuse Email: hmm@minn.net Website: http://www1.minn.net/~hmm ------------Oooo-------------------------------------- oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) -----Original Message----- From: suzy.aston@utoronto.ca To: Bruno AUTIN Cc: jitr@postmodern.com Date: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 2:57 PM Subject: Re: The Lion and the Cobra >Two things, first of all, it was thought that the picture of Dolores >screaming (actually singing according to Sinead) would be too much for us >puritan north americans...so they changed it. > >Second of all, you can get the screaming Sinead L&C at HMV for import >prices in Toronto. > >Suzy > >On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Bruno AUTIN wrote: > >> A friend of mine is a journalist. He 's writing something about the >> different pictures of the albums may have. I told him that "The Lion >> and the Cobra" was different in the US ( down head version) of the rest >> of the world ( shouting version). >> Has anyone the reason of this ? >> Please e-mail me to bautin@club-internet.fr >> >> >> From jitr-owner Wed Mar 4 07:27:57 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id HAA25611 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:27:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id HAA25607 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:27:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from computer ([195.121.24.46]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with SMTP id AAA6BAC for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:27:00 +0100 X-Sender: anna@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Demo Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 16:26:20 +0100 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Anna Subject: SINEAD ITEMS FOR SALE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <7717864FA61.AAA6BAC@smtp01.wxs.nl> Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi all, Here is again some items (once again) available: This is to mother you, Promo cd single p/s $15 Fire on Babylon, 2 track promo cd single (full version and radio edit (els were unavailable)) $15 Blood of Eden & Come talk to me, Both on the Peter Gabriel US cd $15 Ship ahoy, on a cd from the Marxman $15 Be still, very rare cd single, feat remix. Sinead together with Gabriel & F. Sharkey $20 This is a rebel song, 3 track cd single (feat F.O.B. live and redemption song live) $15 Audio tape with tv apperances on it (so it's no video) $5 [These prices are excluding the costs of sending] For more info on these and some Bjork cd singles feel free to contact me at anna@wxs.nl Eduard From jitr-owner Wed Mar 4 12:12:00 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id MAA26297 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:12:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from gold.com.br (gold-2.horizontes.com.br [200.215.160.63]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id MAA26293; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:11:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from default (line0370.horizontes.com.br [200.215.163.79]) by gold.com.br (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA23107; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:08:13 -0300 Message-ID: <34FD4E6B.10C9@horiz.com.br> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 09:51:55 -0300 From: "Christiane R. Albuquerque" Reply-To: newskria@horiz.com.br X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Holli Marshall CC: suzy.aston@utoronto.ca, "Sinead O'Connor" , Jitr Subject: Re: The Lion and the Cobra References: <002801bd4751$49a1b760$1b5910d0@h1165.lawson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Holli Marshall wrote: > Why would they auto import an "American" version? I think there are just > many covers. She has done this with other albums. My special child and > Universal mother. Well, I've seen an interview w/ her once where she says that the American version had to be changed (the cover) cos for the American leg of the company the original cover would be too agressive, the public wouldn't like it.... I guess there are only two covers: the regular one (singing) and the American one... Chris (Brazil) -- ************************************************************************ >you could wait for your dreams to come true > but time has no mercy > time won't stand still for you (B.Adams) ************************************************************************ http://members.wbs.net/homepages/k/r/i/krikaa.html From jitr-owner Wed Mar 4 14:13:12 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id OAA26580 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:13:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from netmgr.cso.niu.edu (netmgr.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.11]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id OAA26576 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:13:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from WPO.CSO.NIU.EDU (netops.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.39]) by netmgr.cso.niu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA00170 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:13:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from Domain1-Message_Server by WPO.CSO.NIU.EDU with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Mar 1998 16:12:53 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 16:12:40 -0600 From: Sumiko Keay To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: This is a Rebel Song Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I haven't noticed that anyone has mentioned this but I recently discovered a snippet of the video for "This is a Rebel Song" on the Sony music Sinead O'Connor page. Its at: www.sonymusic.com Too bad its not the whole thing! From jitr-owner Wed Mar 4 17:14:31 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id RAA26931 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:14:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.40]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id RAA26927 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:14:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from Mooncaff@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id ILVa028606 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:08:25 -0500 (EST) From: Mooncaff Message-ID: <8da65e86.34fdfb0b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:08:25 EST To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: re: sinead Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 70 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ does anyone know if Sinead was invited to perform at the concert airing on nbc tonight here in the states? thanks From jitr-owner Wed Mar 4 19:23:53 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id TAA27188 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:23:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca (bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca [128.100.132.16]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with SMTP id TAA27184 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:23:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from w.ic-public.utoronto.ca ([128.100.46.14]) by bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca with SMTP id <160130(3)>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:16:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:15:43 -0500 From: To: Bruno AUTIN cc: "jitr@postmodern.com" Subject: Re: The Lion and the Cobra In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: astonsuz@mailbox56.utcc.utoronto.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ > Two things, first of all, it was thought that the picture of Dolores > screaming (actually singing according to Sinead) would be too much for us > puritan north americans...so they changed it. > Second of all, you can get the screaming Sinead L&C at HMV for import > prices in Toronto. Oh my goodness.....my mistake was pointed out to me by someone, so sorry about the mixup!!! I am currently on four lists right now, one of them, you might have guessed is the Cranberries, and for some reason Dolores was stuck in my head!! I of course, meant Sinead......wrong irish woman!!! Sorry again about that!! Must learn to proof read my messages! Suzy From jitr-owner Wed Mar 4 21:35:18 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id VAA27507 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:35:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from is4.nyu.edu (IS4.NYU.EDU [128.122.253.137]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id VAA27503 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (kak2395@localhost) by is4.nyu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA09935 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:35:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:35:11 -0500 (EST) From: Charlie Baltimore To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Joni Mitchell/Sinead connection In-Reply-To: <199803040900.BAA24828@server.postmodern.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Most (or a lot) of today's big female folk/confessional singers have paid tribute to Joni Mitchell in some way: Alanis Morrisette (uck!) mentions her in a song Indigo Girls: River Tori Amos: A Case of You Phoebe Snow: A Case of You Sarah McLachlan: Blue Annie Lennox: Ladies of the Canyon Natalie Merchant: All I Want Sinead O'Connor is the only girl I dig (not that I dig all of the above...I HATE the Indigo Girls!) who hasn't paid public tribute to Joni. If anyone examined the Women in Rock special in Rolling Stone last Fall, they will notice Joni's name popping up in interviews with even people like Madonna, and note that Janet Jackson based her hit "Got Till It's Gone" on samples of Joni's "Big Yellow Taxi." Hell, I hear the Women of Lilith sang "Big Yellow Taxi" together as a sort of finale at at least one of their concerts. Anyway, Sinead never mentions Joni. However, it's interesting to note they way they seem chummy, standing together at The Wall concert in Berlin. Also, anyone who's seen Sinead get her "Artist of the Year," or whatever it was, at the MTV Awards know Joni introduced her, ending cornily with "Nothing compares to you, Sinead!" The women embrace when Sinead reaches the stage. Finally, in evidence of Joni's respect for Sinead, when Joni wrote "The Magdaline Laundries" for her Grammy winning Turbulent Indigo album, she personally called Sinead and told her this song would be good for her. I don't know Sinead's response, but she's never recorded the song. That's why I'm hoping Sinead may contribute to the forthcoming Joni Mitchell tribute album, and that she will sing that song. Has anyone ever heard anything about this? Basically, I'm interested in knowing if anyone has ever heard Sinead say anything about Joni or her music. I think "The Magdaline Laundries" is awesome material for Sinead, as did Joni, because of the subject matter. The song's about a "Lady of Charity" home for wayward women, and it's a very biting look at the misguidedness of so-called religious servants. I was an unmarried girl I'd just turned 27 When they brought me to the sisters For the way men looked at me Branded as a Jezebel I knew I was not bound for heaven And I was cast in shame Into the Magdaline Laundries Most girls come here pregnant Some by there own fathers Bridget got that belly by her parish priest They're trying to get things white as snow For all us woe-begotten daughters In the steaming stains of the Magdaline Laundries Prostitutes and destitutes And temptresses like me Fallen women sentenced into dreamless drudgery Why do they call this heartless place Our Lady of Charity? Oh, charity! These bloodless "brides of Jesus" If they just once glimpsed their groom Then they'd know And drop the stones concealed behind their rosaries They wilt the grass they walk upon They leach the light out of a room They'd like to drive us down the drain At the Magdaline Launderies Peg O'Connell died today She was a cheeky girl, a flirt They just stuffed her in a hole Surely to God you'd think at least some bells should ring! Some day I'm gonna die here too And they'll just plant me in the dirt Like some lame bulb that never blooms Not any spring No, not any spring You can see why this is obviously PERFECT material for Sinead! If anyone has any comments, or has heard anything connecting Sinead to this song, I'd love to hear. Does anyone know this song, other than me? Kevin "I thought I tasted of too many cigarettes, But you tasted of wine" From jitr-owner Wed Mar 4 23:09:20 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id XAA27709 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:09:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from norway.it.earthlink.net (norway-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.49]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id XAA27705 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:09:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from anything (1Cust116.max3.san-francisco2.ca.ms.uu.net [153.34.182.244]) by norway.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA18519; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:09:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34FE4FBA.4C0B@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 23:09:46 -0800 From: Nic Caciappo Reply-To: nicbeat@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nicbeat@earthlink.net CC: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell/Sinead connection References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Charlie Baltimore wrote: > > Most (or a lot) of today's big female folk/confessional singers have paid > tribute to Joni Mitchell in some way: > > Alanis Morrisette (uck!) mentions her in a song > Indigo Girls: River > Tori Amos: A Case of You > Phoebe Snow: A Case of You > Sarah McLachlan: Blue > Annie Lennox: Ladies of the Canyon > Natalie Merchant: All I Want You missed Amy Grant: Big Yellow Taxi Nic From jitr-owner Thu Mar 5 02:35:52 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id CAA29768 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:35:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ecua.net.ec (ecua.net.ec [157.100.1.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with SMTP id CAA29763 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:35:39 -0800 (PST) From: details@condor.redcomet.net Received: from 1Cust83.max2.miami.fl.ms.uu.net by ecua.net.ec (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.04) id AA09018; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:25:57 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:25:57 -0500 Message-Id: <9803051025.AA09018@ecua.net.ec> To: details@condor.redcomet.net Subject: International Equipment Loans Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ International Financing Boosts Up Foreign Sales! 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Contact: Alan Email: alan@condor.redcomet.net Tel: 305-632-7332 Fax: 305-870-9610 Thank You For Your Time Alan From jitr-owner Thu Mar 5 09:08:05 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id JAA00538 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:08:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from er7.rutgers.edu (51675@er7.rutgers.edu [165.230.180.135]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id JAA00534 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:08:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dlmeyer@localhost) by er7.rutgers.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA04007; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:07:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:07:54 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Meyer To: Charlie Baltimore cc: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell/Sinead connection In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ In a few articles, Sinead has been quoting complaining that people compare her to Joni Mitchell, even though their styles are very different. A lot of female singers get compared to Joni Mitchell, simply because they're women, I think. It's not an unflattering comparison, but it's a bit unfair. --Danny Meyer From jitr-owner Thu Mar 5 11:08:41 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id LAA00810 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:08:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from cliff.uottawa.ca (root@cliff.uottawa.ca [137.122.6.64]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id LAA00806 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:08:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [137.122.191.162] ([137.122.191.162]) by cliff.uottawa.ca (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA15142 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:07:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:09:35 -0800 (PST) From: Jen Olsen Reply-To: Jen Olsen To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: The Lion and the Cobra Message-ID: X-X-Sender: s841085@mailbox.uottawa.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Just a quick question, who is Dolores? Just wondering... Suzy wrote: Two things, first of all, it was thought that the picture of Dolores screaming (actually singing according to Sinead) would be too much for us puritan north americans...so they changed it. From jitr-owner Thu Mar 5 11:11:35 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id LAA00897 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:11:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from cliff.uottawa.ca (root@cliff.uottawa.ca [137.122.6.64]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id LAA00893 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:11:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [137.122.191.162] ([137.122.191.162]) by cliff.uottawa.ca (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA11994 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:10:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:12:36 -0800 (PST) From: Jen Olsen To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: The Lion and the Cobra Message-ID: X-X-Sender: s841085@mailbox.uottawa.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Don't mind my last posted question, I just read that Suzy mixed up Sinead and Dolores O'Riordan! Don't mind me, I should've read all my e-mail before asking! Jen From jitr-owner Thu Mar 5 12:09:27 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id MAA01116 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:09:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.lickitagain.com (root@adult1.tcn.net [205.150.52.223]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id MAA01112 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:09:20 -0800 (PST) From: computers52@hotmail.com Received: from hotmail.com (comp18.tcn.net [209.135.79.18]) by www.lickitagain.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA27051; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:10:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:10:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803052010.PAA27051@www.lickitagain.com> To: computers52@hotmail.com Subject: Remember Me?! Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi sexy remember me? We chatted about two weeks ago on alamak server??? well I finally got my page up!! http://www.lovemenow.com/ *Just click on the banners and enjoy* Anna Paterson From jitr-owner Thu Mar 5 14:44:52 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id OAA01487 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:44:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.interline.be (www.interline.be [194.196.43.97]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id OAA01483 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:44:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from bruno (dialup04.interline.be [194.196.43.104]) by www.interline.be (8.7/8.7) with SMTP id XAA11914 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 23:47:00 GMT From: "multirom" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Religion_Sin=E9ad_O'Connor_=3F?= Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 23:41:45 +0100 Message-ID: <01b9eb4a$4bc97340$692bc4c2@bruno> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I can't follow anymore Could someone please tell me Sinéad's RELIGION ? Is it Catholic, Boudism, Paganism, Rastafari, ... ??? And if it is not Catholic or Boedism, could someone explain me a little bit her new religion ? In "Petit Poulet" she sings : "There isn't any answer in religion" "Don't believe one who says there is" What does she mean with that ? Thank you Bluefish from Belgium ------------------------------------------------------------ "We used to worship God as a mother Now look at what we're doing to each other" ------------------------------------------------------------ From jitr-owner Thu Mar 5 15:01:26 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id PAA01591 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:01:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from naps.uwindsor.ca (dns.uwindsor.ca [137.207.232.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with SMTP id PAA01587 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:01:22 -0800 (PST) Received: id SAA23978; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:00:14 -0500 Received: by gateway id SAA17566; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:00:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:00:22 -0500 (EST) From: Gebrail Rosemary To: multirom cc: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Religion_Sin=E9ad_O'Connor_=3F?= In-Reply-To: <01b9eb4a$4bc97340$692bc4c2@bruno> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On Sun, 5 Mar 1995, multirom wrote: > Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 23:41:45 +0100 > From: multirom > To: jitr@postmodern.com > Subject: =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?Religion_Sin=3DE9ad_O'Connor_=3D3F?=3D >----she is a recovering catholic...tee hee =20 > I can't follow anymore >=20 > Could someone please tell me Sin=E9ad's RELIGION ? > Is it Catholic, Boudism, Paganism, Rastafari, ... ??? > And if it is not Catholic or Boedism, could someone explain me > a little bit her new religion ? > In "Petit Poulet" she sings : "There isn't any answer in religion" > "Don't believe one who sa= ys > there is" > What does she mean with that ? >=20 >=20 > Thank you > Bluefish from Belgium >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------ > "We used to worship God as a mother > Now look at what we're doing to each other" > ------------------------------------------------------------ >=20 >=20 >=20 From jitr-owner Thu Mar 5 15:02:33 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id PAA01638 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:02:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.minn.net (root@mail.minn.net [208.16.88.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id PAA01634; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:02:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from h1165.lawson.com (dialup-pm3-11.minn.net [208.16.89.81]) by mail.minn.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA17668; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:02:01 -0600 Message-ID: <002b01bd488a$ae9db620$515910d0@h1165.lawson.com> From: "Holli Marshall" To: Cc: "Jitr" , "Sinead O'Connor" Subject: Re: The Lion and the Cobra Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:01:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ This is something I don't understand. Who is judging the American people and what we can "stand"? Just who is this mystery judge and jury? I want to decide what I can handle and what I can't. Is it not in our constitution anymore? Whether she is screaming or bowing her head, this doesn't matter. It's her music right....? I think it's the ignorance of people (whoever they may be) that are judging what we can handle. I've seen many mag. from England that take me aback with the nudity. We do not do that here. So who is to say who is right from wrong? I think I am old enough and wise enough to look at two different album covers and decide which one I like best. Is this disturbing to anyone else? God, let it go already.... Just like SNL.... Tired of people trying to decide what's right for us. Just want to play the music really loud because I love it! Peace to all! Holli \\\|/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) ---oOOo-(_)-oOOo-------------------------------------- - Holli Marshall's "Triumph Over Tragedy" Mint Green Ribbon Campaign for the Awareness of Abuse Email: hmm@minn.net Website: http://www1.minn.net/~hmm ------------Oooo-------------------------------------- oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) -----Original Message----- From: Christiane R. Albuquerque To: Holli Marshall Cc: suzy.aston@utoronto.ca ; Sinead O'Connor ; Jitr Date: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 2:17 PM Subject: Re: The Lion and the Cobra >Holli Marshall wrote: > >> Why would they auto import an "American" version? I think there are just >> many covers. She has done this with other albums. My special child and >> Universal mother. > >Well, I've seen an interview w/ her once where she says that the >American version had to be changed (the cover) cos for the American leg >of the company the original cover would be too agressive, the public >wouldn't like it.... >I guess there are only two covers: the regular one (singing) and the >American one... > >Chris (Brazil) > >-- >************************************************************************ > >you could wait for your dreams to come true > > but time has no mercy > > time won't stand still for you > > (B.Adams) >************************************************************************ >http://members.wbs.net/homepages/k/r/i/krikaa.html > From jitr-owner Thu Mar 5 16:55:24 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id QAA01891 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:55:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from jetski.cyberTours.com (jetski.cybertours.com [205.139.4.106]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id QAA01887 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ceb (kenn009-33.cybertours.com [208.161.29.33]) by jetski.cyberTours.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA23327 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:54:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FF4841.2534@cybertours.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 19:50:09 -0500 From: marcus brown Reply-To: elm@cybertours.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: NSC:ani Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ off and on other woman artists are mentioned in the river. I am not a big fan of many other female musicians, as far as buying their disks. I get into different singles, etc. but sinead is my main woman(ha,ha). EXCEPT ani difranco. Ihaven't seen her mentioned on the list. I don't know how many people know her. she is a "folk" (loosely) gal from new york city (orig. buffalo). I own all of her albums which is at the rate of one a year since 1990. she started her own label (rightous babe records) and is just incredible. For you sinead fans of TLATC and IDNWWIHG i think you would really like ani's albums "not a pretty girl" and "dilate". two of my favs. also recamended(sp-brain block) are "out of range" and "imperfectly". so if anyone is curious I think some of you out there would really dig her. NP: "my country" midnight oil From jitr-owner Thu Mar 5 17:01:11 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id RAA01957 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:01:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from jetski.cyberTours.com (jetski.cybertours.com [205.139.4.106]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id RAA01953 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:01:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ceb (kenn009-33.cybertours.com [208.161.29.33]) by jetski.cyberTours.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA23518 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:00:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FF49A0.732A@cybertours.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 19:56:00 -0500 From: marcus brown Reply-To: elm@cybertours.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: sinead spain single Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ while browsing at southlandCD under their wanted to buy from people was this sinead single from spain. "you make me feel so free" 2 track promo from the van morrison tribute CD, in card sleeve includes "slipstreem". Does anyone have any info on this? marcel, eduard, etc?? it is the "slipstreem" song im stuck on. never heard this. i think it is a VM song. does sinead cover this as well? or is it another person covering it for the album which they just stuck on this single. does anyone own this? help. thanks marcus From jitr-owner Thu Mar 5 17:16:03 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id RAA02030 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:16:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from node21.frontiernet.net (node21.frontiernet.net [209.130.129.196]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id RAA02026 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:15:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from olivia (srv-7-42.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [209.130.131.147]) by node21.frontiernet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA141826 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:30:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199803060030.TAA141826@node21.frontiernet.net> Reply-To: From: "The Drago-Leafs" To: Subject: Fw: The Lion and the Cobra Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:30:04 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Holli, I thinkyou anwered your own question when you stated "I've seen many mags from England..." That's what American marketers are talking about -- they probably didn't want record-buyers...who were unsure of buying it...to be taken "aback" by the cover and decide to buy something a bit more gentle. Not that I'm saying those marketers are right for doing that. I mean Americans obviously can handle all the Porn-like covers on rap records. (not all rap records -- don't everyone get all mad at me). Anyway, just thought I give my 2 cents. -Deborah ---------- > From: Holli Marshall > To: newskria@horiz.com.br > Cc: Jitr ; Sinead O'Connor > Subject: Re: The Lion and the Cobra > Date: Thursday, March 05, 1998 6:01 PM > > This is something I don't understand. Who is judging the American people > and what we can "stand"? Just who is this mystery judge and jury? I want > to decide what I can handle and what I can't. > Is it not in our constitution anymore? > > Whether she is screaming or bowing her head, this doesn't matter. It's her > music right....? > > I think it's the ignorance of people (whoever they may be) that are judging > what we can handle. I've seen many mag. from England that take me aback > with the nudity. We do not do that here. So who is to say who is right > from wrong? I think I am old enough and wise enough to look at two > different album covers and decide which one I like best. > > Is this disturbing to anyone else? God, let it go already.... Just like > SNL.... > > Tired of people trying to decide what's right for us. > Just want to play the music really loud because I love it! > > Peace to all! > Holli > > \\\|/// > \\ - - // > ( @ @ ) > ---oOOo-(_)-oOOo-------------------------------------- > - Holli Marshall's "Triumph Over Tragedy" > Mint Green Ribbon Campaign for the Awareness of Abuse > Email: hmm@minn.net > Website: http://www1.minn.net/~hmm > ------------Oooo-------------------------------------- > oooO ( ) > ( ) ) / > \ ( (_/ > \_) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christiane R. Albuquerque > To: Holli Marshall > Cc: suzy.aston@utoronto.ca ; Sinead O'Connor > ; Jitr > Date: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 2:17 PM > Subject: Re: The Lion and the Cobra > > > >Holli Marshall wrote: > > > >> Why would they auto import an "American" version? I think there are just > >> many covers. She has done this with other albums. My special child and > >> Universal mother. > > > >Well, I've seen an interview w/ her once where she says that the > >American version had to be changed (the cover) cos for the American leg > >of the company the original cover would be too agressive, the public > >wouldn't like it.... > >I guess there are only two covers: the regular one (singing) and the > >American one... > > > >Chris (Brazil) > > > >-- > >************************************************************************ > > >you could wait for your dreams to come true > > > but time has no mercy > > > time won't stand still for you > > > > (B.Adams) > >************************************************************************ > >http://members.wbs.net/homepages/k/r/i/krikaa.html > > > From jitr-owner Thu Mar 5 17:55:55 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id RAA02119 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:55:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id RAA02115 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:55:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from dante03.u.washington.edu (dculbert@dante03.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.5]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA29854 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:55:44 -0800 Received: from localhost (dculbert@localhost) by dante03.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA65730 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:55:43 -0800 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:55:43 -0800 (PST) From: "D. Culbertson" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: The Lion and the Cobra In-Reply-To: <002b01bd488a$ae9db620$515910d0@h1165.lawson.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Holli Marshall wrote: > This is something I don't understand. Who is judging the American people > and what we can "stand"? Just who is this mystery judge and jury? I want > to decide what I can handle and what I can't. > Is it not in our constitution anymore? > > Whether she is screaming or bowing her head, this doesn't matter. It's her > music right....? > > I think it's the ignorance of people (whoever they may be) that are judging > what we can handle. I've seen many mag. from England that take me aback > with the nudity. We do not do that here. So who is to say who is right > from wrong? I think I am old enough and wise enough to look at two > different album covers and decide which one I like best. > Hi all, Well, I hate to be bitter, but I think that in the Western hemisphere, the U.S. is still one of the most sexist, patriarchal nations. The record companies are predominantly run by white males who seem to enjoy exercising their moral agendas on all who cross their path. Perhaps they think that a young bald girl (or thought 10 years ago, I should say) screaming in a not so cute, "feminine", passive manner would turn some people off to the music. I'd like to think that if the same cover was presented to an American company in 1998, it would be printed without prejudice. Dana From jitr-owner Thu Mar 5 18:45:39 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id SAA02256 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:45:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.151]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id SAA02250 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:45:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from Gogobooty3@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id QJJHa05360 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:44:58 -0500 (EST) From: Gogobooty3 Message-ID: <3470ad89.34ff632d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:44:58 EST To: jitr@postmodern.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: lion & cobra and whuthering heights & such Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 83 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ hi kids--- i have responded to individuals but not posted for a long time. i just wanted to mention how on my "quiet" lion & cobra cd i love sinead's hand, on which is written: "PURSE A-Z". sometimes record companies repackage albums to create a more "collectible" quality to the releases. try not to take it too personally, chums. i watched "whuthering heights" recently when i had the flu. the person who first posted that sinead was in it, gave me a feeling she was featured very little. i was surprised that i saw as much of her as i did. the camera follows her, lingers a lot on her face (weird wig and hooded cloak). her voice speaks over the action at times and narrates a whole section at the beginning & ending. i'm beginning to find ralph fiennes tedious, so i can't say much else for the movie. i'm really looking forward to "the butcher boy". i plan to check that out as soon as it is released. i have plans to tape the "shamrock & roll" show & "gaelic force" this month. next month i will endeavour to catch the elusive "sessions on w 54th" pbs thing. i am accumulating my own lil collection of stuff, slowly but surely. there is a celtic festival in SF this weekend. i am recommending SATURDAY's show especially a band called KILA, from sinead's hometown of dublin. sorry to be so long fonted. buhbye! ---claudia From jitr-owner Thu Mar 5 18:46:23 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id SAA02302 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:46:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.155]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id SAA02292 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:46:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from Oonasoul@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id QVBPa29097 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:45:34 -0500 (EST) From: Oonasoul Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:45:34 EST To: jitr@postmodern.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: NSC:ani Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I just wanted to say that although I've only heard 2 songs by Ani Difranco ("Fuel" & "Fake Plastic Castle") other than reading some of her interviews, I think she's someone to take into serious consideration when speaking of high caliber female artists. She definitely is; in the truest, most uncompromising sense of the word. I can't wait to hear more of her just as soon as I can afford to buy a bunch of her CD's!:) -Erin P.S. jitr/Ani fans are encouraged to make me a tape! HA:) (JK!!) From jitr-owner Thu Mar 5 19:17:04 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id TAA02430 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:17:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from postoffice.mail.cornell.edu (POSTOFFICE.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.56.7]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id TAA02426 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:17:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from 132.236.121.202.resnet.cornell.edu (CLH22.RESNET.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.121.202]) by postoffice.mail.cornell.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA23206; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:16:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980305221853.0076f3ec@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu> X-Sender: clh22@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) -- [Cornell Modified] Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 22:18:53 -0500 To: elm@cybertours.com From: Carrie Hoffman Subject: Re: NSC:ani Cc: jitr@postmodern.com In-Reply-To: <34FF4841.2534@cybertours.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I know that this is off-topic, and I am ridiculous, but I wanted to say that I also love Ani DiFranco. On Monday night, I camped out in 10 degree weather for 14 hours to get tickets to her Ithaca concert. I think barely anyone gets played in my CD player besides her and Sinead, though they're really not that similar except for their fierce messages and their independence. I definitely recommend her. -Carrie NP: Ani DiFranco "Buildings and Bridges" At 07:50 PM 3/5/98 -0500, you wrote: >off and on other woman artists are mentioned in the river. I am not a >big fan of many other female musicians, as far as buying their disks. I >get into different singles, etc. but sinead is my main woman(ha,ha). >EXCEPT ani difranco. Ihaven't seen her mentioned on the list. I don't >know how many people know her. she is a "folk" (loosely) gal from new >york city (orig. buffalo). I own all of her albums which is at the rate >of one a year since 1990. she started her own label (rightous babe >records) and is just incredible. For you sinead fans of TLATC and >IDNWWIHG i think you would really like ani's albums "not a pretty girl" >and "dilate". two of my favs. also recamended(sp-brain block) are "out >of range" and "imperfectly". so if anyone is curious I think some of >you out there would really dig her. > >NP: "my country" midnight oil > From jitr-owner Thu Mar 5 21:56:13 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id VAA02676 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:56:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsorter-105.bryant.webtv.net (mailsorter-105.iap.bryant.webtv.net [207.79.35.95]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id VAA02672 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:56:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailtod-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net (mailtod-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net [207.79.35.128]) by mailsorter-105.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.gso.08Dec97) with ESMTP id VAA18117; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:56:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from production@localhost) by mailtod-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.5/mt.gso.26Feb98) id VAA12848; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:56:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803060556.VAA12848@mailtod-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net> From: Satori@webtv.net (Larry Spadacini) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:56:08 -0500 To: Gogobooty3@aol.com (Gogobooty3) Cc: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: lion & cobra and whuthering heights & such Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, I just wanted to say that on my version of Sinead's " The Lion and the Cobra," a Purer A to Z is written on her hand. I don't know if the person was being sarcastic by saying Purse A to Z or perhaps simply misread the hard to read writing on Sinead's hand. BTW, this group is simply great and I am very fortunate to be a part of it. Thanks. Larry Spadacini From jitr-owner Fri Mar 6 00:26:39 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id AAA04649 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f130.hotmail.com [207.82.251.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with SMTP id AAA04645 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:26:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5523 invoked by uid 0); 6 Mar 1998 08:26:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19980306082601.5522.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.187.24.41 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 06 Mar 1998 00:26:00 PST X-Originating-IP: [128.187.24.41] From: "Ben Adams" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: one more for Joni Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 00:26:00 PST Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi, A couple people sent me messages regarding Sinéad's version of Silent Night. Unfortunately, Hotmail decided to delete ALL messages on my account (other Hotmail users beware), so I don't even know if I missed any messages. If anyone has written anything to me, please re-send the message (if possible). Thanks.. Just anxiously awaiting Butcher Boy in the U.S. and Lilith Tour '98. Oh, by the way, there's one more female singer to add to the Joni Mitchell list. This summer when I met Harriet Wheeler, the lead singer of The Sundays, she said something about one of Joni's albums being "our near favorite album"--or something like that. I think she said it was in their cd-player on the tour bus right then. Anyway, she loves Joni, if I recall correctly. Ben. NP: Madonna, Ray of Light... her new album.. strangely enough, it reminds me of Radiohead's OK Computer--it's very good ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From jitr-owner Fri Mar 6 02:11:00 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id CAA04920 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 02:11:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id CAA04916 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 02:10:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from computer ([195.121.24.48]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with SMTP id AAB25B3 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:10:08 +0100 X-Sender: anna@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Demo Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 11:07:14 +0100 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Anna Subject: van morrison single Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <771787123ED.AAB25B3@smtp02.wxs.nl> Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ > >while browsing at southlandCD under their wanted to buy from people was >this sinead single from spain. "you make me feel so free" 2 track promo >from the van morrison tribute CD, in card sleeve includes "slipstreem". >Does anyone have any info on this? marcel, eduard, etc?? it is the >"slipstreem" song im stuck on. never heard this. i think it is a VM >song. does sinead cover this as well? or is it another person covering >it for the album which they just stuck on this single. does anyone own >this? help. >thanks >marcus > Hi Marcus, The single you are referring to has two tracks like you said, You make me feel so free sung by Sinead and queen of the slipstream sung by Brian Kennedy. The sleeve of the single has the same picture as the no prima donna cd, there are no lyrics and no pic. from Sinead. Sinead only appears in the first track. If you already have the cd no prima donna and you only want the Sinead songs, then this cd-single is nothing special. If you want however all formats from all Sinead stuff then this is a hard to find rare promo. Eduard From jitr-owner Fri Mar 6 05:03:49 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id FAA05198 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 05:03:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo30.mx.aol.com (imo30.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.168]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id FAA05194 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 05:03:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from JanyBeth@aol.com by imo30.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id QSNJa23678 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:03:06 -0500 (EST) From: JanyBeth Message-ID: <61bf5a0.34fff40c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:03:06 EST To: jitr@postmodern.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re:NSC:ani Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ In a message dated 3/6/98 4:06:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-jitr- digest@postmodern.com writes: << off and on other woman artists are mentioned in the river. I am not a big fan of many other female musicians, as far as buying their disks. I get into different singles, etc. but sinead is my main woman(ha,ha). EXCEPT ani difranco. >> I have to say this fits me too! I have been a die-hard Sinead since 1990, and although Sinead & Ani are two completely different styles of music, I think most Sinead fans would love Ani as well. If you haven't heard her, I highly recommend checking her out! Janie From jitr-owner Fri Mar 6 08:01:28 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id IAA05495 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:01:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from carthage.american.edu (carthage.american.edu [147.9.1.7]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id IAA05491 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:01:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from dana-drag.american.edu (dhcp-letts-174-204.american.edu [147.9.174.204]) by carthage.american.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA19216 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:59:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35001F3D.41A6@american.edu> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 11:07:25 -0500 From: Kate Sanders Reply-To: ks8106a@american.edu Organization: American University X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: religion? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I was just wondering if any one ever answered the religion question. I have been wondering the same question for quite some time now. Isn't the star that appears on all of Sinead's albums the star of David? And as for Ani Diffranco...I saw her show last year with Bob Dilan and I have to say that she is an amazing performer. Like the rest of you, she is my other favorite! Thanks Kate NP- Ani, Living in Clip From jitr-owner Fri Mar 6 09:12:53 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id JAA05683 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:12:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from web03.globecomm.net (web03.nyc.globecomm.net [207.51.48.103]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id JAA05679 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:12:31 -0800 (PST) From: jayelle@lycosmail.com Received: (from root@localhost) by web03.globecomm.net (8.8.8/8.8.0) id MAA09204; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:11:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:11:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803061711.MAA09204@web03.globecomm.net> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jitr@postmodern.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Sinead likes to talk about religion and we like to talk about Sinead... Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ ...so does everyone here like to talk about religion? I know this is the most egregrious sort of spam, but I have a new project--a really lovely new interfaith discussion forum! What would make it EXTREMELY lovely is a lot more posts by a lot more people. And Sinead IS a spiritual artist, and there are lots of different religions here. So if you'd like to see the forum, go to: http://disc.server.com/Indices/12855.html About Sinead's religion: I used to think she was Pagan, but that was when I was in the process of converting. I guess she's just a good ol' fashioned syncreticist! About other women: I like Lil' Kim, Missy Elliott, Hurricane G, Rage, the Sundays, Loreena McKennitt, Chantal Kreviasuk, Fiona Apple, and Hole. About "pornographic" hip-hop album covers: You wouldn't be talking about Lil' Kim's album, would you? I love her to death, but I called that the "Victoria's Secret album" in my review. One of the cool things about Sinead is that she's sexual, but doesn't take every opportunity to get nekkid (at least not in public!) In perfect love and graveyard dust! --Jayelle Lukash "Good judgement comes from experience. And experience, my dear Axl, comes from *bad* judgement."--Bull Gator, "Taz-Mania" If you simply can't get enough Jayelle, do please visit http://www.angelfire.com/fl/diversions/ ----------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email at http://email.lycos.com From jitr-owner Fri Mar 6 11:22:26 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id LAA06052 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:22:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.154]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id LAA06048 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:22:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from Mooncaff@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id QDPTa06379 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:21:44 -0500 (EST) From: Mooncaff Message-ID: <5817aea6.35004cca@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:21:44 EST To: jitr@postmodern.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: regarding ani Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 70 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ 32 flavors and more. ani is a righteous babe in the truest sense. i second the recomendation. mooncaff@aol From jitr-owner Fri Mar 6 11:24:00 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id LAA06099 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:24:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from naps.uwindsor.ca (dns.uwindsor.ca [137.207.232.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with SMTP id LAA06095 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:23:57 -0800 (PST) Received: id OAA18986; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:22:17 -0500 Received: by gateway id OAA02665; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:22:22 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:22:22 -0500 (EST) From: Gebrail Rosemary To: Oonasoul cc: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: NSC:ani In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Oonasoul wrote: > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:45:34 EST > From: Oonasoul > To: jitr@postmodern.com > Subject: Re: NSC:ani > - oh by the way it is little plastic castle and if you want to hear amazing poetry and a wonderful voice ani is the one to listen to (next to sinead of course) :)rosie > I just wanted to say that although I've only heard 2 songs by Ani Difranco > ("Fuel" & "Fake Plastic Castle") other than reading some of her interviews, I > think she's someone to take into serious consideration when speaking of high > caliber female artists. She definitely is; in the truest, most uncompromising > sense of the word. I can't wait to hear more of her just as soon as I can > afford to buy a bunch of her CD's!:) > -Erin > > P.S. jitr/Ani fans are encouraged to make me a tape! HA:) (JK!!) > From jitr-owner Fri Mar 6 13:55:12 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id NAA06462 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:55:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from netmgr.cso.niu.edu (netmgr.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.11]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id NAA06458 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:55:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from WPO.CSO.NIU.EDU (netops.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.39]) by netmgr.cso.niu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA08420 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:55:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from Domain1-Message_Server by WPO.CSO.NIU.EDU with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 Mar 1998 15:54:58 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 15:54:37 -0600 From: Sumiko Keay To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Celtic Heartbeat Collection2 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ According to Addicted to Noise a live version of "He Moved Through the Fair" is included on Celtic Heartbeat Collection2. Possibly the same as on Gospel Oak? From jitr-owner Fri Mar 6 14:00:29 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id OAA06529 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:00:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.36]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id OAA06525 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:00:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from SNORIT@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id IJUTa14620 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:59:44 -0500 (EST) From: SNORIT Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:59:44 EST To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: sinead at fleadh again!! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ i just saw on a mtv newsbreak that sinead and a few other irish artist will be at the fleadh again this year. it is supposed to be in nyc for 2 days, chicago and san fran for a nite a piece also. hopefully sinead will be featured both nites in nyc like van morrison was last year. this is gonna be the summer of sinead. i can't wait. todd From jitr-owner Fri Mar 6 15:43:13 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id PAA06762 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:43:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.34]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id PAA06758 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:43:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from Gogobooty3@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id QSHRa04319; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 18:42:32 -0500 (EST) From: Gogobooty3 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 18:42:32 EST To: SNORIT@aol.com, jitr@postmodern.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: sinead at fleadh again!! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 83 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ i read in an irish newspaper yesterday that the fleadh festival is in san jose. it's at a big stadium...i don't really love huge venues. i'm glad sinead is going to be playing on the west coast though. i'll probably end up going regardless. cheers---claudia From jitr-owner Fri Mar 6 16:08:39 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id QAA06856 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:08:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.39]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id QAA06852 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:08:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from SNORIT@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id QBVSa26839; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:06:40 -0500 (EST) From: SNORIT Message-ID: <2883ca1a.35008f92@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:06:40 EST To: Gogobooty3@aol.com, jitr@postmodern.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: sinead at fleadh again!! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ maybe it was san jose. i don't know. all i heard was nyc and i didn't care what else they said. sorry. but i did hear chicago, and a west coast venue. i just figured it would be san fran. once again sorry for any misinformation, you know how it is when you get excited. From jitr-owner Fri Mar 6 17:51:53 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id RAA07066 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:51:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo30.mx.aol.com (imo30.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.168]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id RAA07062 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:51:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from Dreampoper@aol.com by imo30.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id QNHIa23679 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:51:11 -0500 (EST) From: Dreampoper Message-ID: <4a0363c7.3500a811@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:51:11 EST To: jitr@postmodern.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: jitr-digest V4 #64 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi everyone! I ordered the Rebel Song singles from CD Now and received them yesterday (imported from the UK). They are incredible, just as I had read. The live versions of Fire on Babylon, Redemption Song, Last Day of our Acquaintance & Thank You for Hearing Me are sooooooo great! I like the remix of Rebel Song as well. Some of the live songs were recorded at Chastain Park in Atlanta. I thought that was cool since my sister lives there. If the Lilith Fair tour stops there this year, I will certainly not miss her this time. Atlanta is only about 300 miles north of Jacksonville (where I live). To my knowledge she has never been to Florida, but I could be wrong. Also, I would like to respond to Kevin's comments regarding Joni Mitchell. I think The Magdaline Laundries would be a great song for Sinead! Those lyrics are really powerful. Sounds like a great song. I haven't heard anything about the tribute album. Anyway, if anyone gets a chance to purchase the Rebel Song singles, go for it! It's well worth the money. Peace. Clarke From jitr-owner Sat Mar 7 00:50:20 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id AAA09322 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 00:50:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mmp02.wxs.nl (mmp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id AAA09318 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 00:50:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from computer ([195.121.24.96]) by mmp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with SMTP id AAC63C1 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 09:49:40 +0100 X-Sender: anna@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Demo Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 09:47:17 +0100 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Anna Subject: Queation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <771787741341.AAC63C1@mmp02.wxs.nl> Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi, Although this has nothing to do with Sinead this time i hope somebody will help me out. I sometimes watch in Holland on TV the Jerry Springer show. Now I've heard that there is a video tape called To Hot For TV with some unsecured highlights from his show on it. Above that, there is also a cd out from Jerry. Is there somebody out there who is able and willing to buy both video and cd for me. Of course i pay for it (or send you some Sinead in return). Please e-mail me privately about this.. Thanks....Eduard anna@wxs.nl From jitr-owner Sat Mar 7 02:28:17 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id CAA09534 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 02:28:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id CAA09530 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 02:28:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from LOCALNAME ([12.64.0.142]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA18643 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 10:27:41 +0000 Message-ID: <35012FA4.208F@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 03:29:41 -0800 From: Ken X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sinead Mailing List Subject: The Butcher Boy Trailer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi all, I've just comeback from downloading the trailer for the movie. They have finally added this to the site. Go check it out! www.butcherboy.com/ Ken NP: Bjork "Hyperballad" From jitr-owner Sat Mar 7 04:35:08 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id EAA09915 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 04:35:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from MAIL2 (mail2.indosat.net.id [202.155.15.22]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id EAA09911 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 04:35:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from indosat.net.id - 202.155.2.181 by indosat.net.id with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 19:30:14 +0700 Message-ID: <35013DF6.44463FCF@indosat.net.id> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 19:30:47 +0700 From: Aster - Andreas X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: chalkmark in the storm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi since there have been few conversations on Joni Mitchel, I was wondering if anyone can make recommendation of her album "Chalkmark in the storm" I intended to buy it but i would like to know others' opinion. also, it was said that Alannis Morrisette mentioned Joni in her song. Can anyone give info, which song of hers is that? sorry cause this has nothing to do with Sinead best regards, andreas sylverius -------------------------------------------- ".. the seaweed is always greener, in somebody else's lake.." >'under the sea' from 'Little Mermaid'< ------------------------------------------------ From jitr-owner Sat Mar 7 04:35:18 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id EAA09942 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 04:35:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from MAIL2 (mail2.indosat.net.id [202.155.15.22]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id EAA09935 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 04:35:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from indosat.net.id - 202.155.2.181 by indosat.net.id with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 19:29:58 +0700 Message-ID: <35013D40.1C4FDBA6@indosat.net.id> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 19:27:44 +0700 From: Aster - Andreas X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: proactive Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi all, it's been a while since I posted any message. I read Stephen Covey's book: "Seven Habits of highly effective people..", of which I agree a lot. One habit mentioned is 'proactive' which in short is to take the responsbility, not to blame things outside us for what happens. Recently that thing came across my mind when I listened to Sinead's songs. It seems that in many songs, she's blaming everything/everyone but herself, such as - her pregnancy in "emperor's new clothes" -"you" (her mother ?) in "you cause as much sorrow" -margaret thatcher in "black boys on mopeds" and she seems to defend her self with -"i'm full of good intentions" in "you cause.. -"all the mistake you THOUGHT i've done" (sorry i forget the exact lyrics) in "this is a rebel song" Not to say that she's completely wrong , she's got some points there (like blaming USA government in famine, margaret thatcher, etc). But I do believe that our life is our responsibility. Whether you're happy or not really depends on how you take things. In a sense, I think Sinead doesn't think that way. Well, just wanna share my opinion, Any comment ? best regards, andreas sylverius ".. the seaweed is always greener, in somebody else's lake.." >'under the sea' from 'Little Mermaid' From jitr-owner Sat Mar 7 05:34:55 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id FAA10062 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 05:34:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.40]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id FAA10058 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 05:34:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from Miasma226@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id QYCRa28606 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 08:34:02 -0500 (EST) From: Miasma226 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 08:34:02 EST To: jitr@postmodern.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: proactive/victim Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ In a message dated 98-03-07 07:38:40 EST, you write: << Recently that thing came across my mind when I listened to Sinead's songs. It seems that in many songs, she's blaming everything/everyone but herself, such as >> There has been a huge cultural analysis done about the 1990's being tha Age of the Victim. I call it the "Deny/Shift the Blame Syndrome." "I didn't do it, she did." There are many wonderful books out on the shift in mentality, but you hardly need to read a cultural analysis to see it...just look. It started about the time of the Menendaz Brothers trial ("We had to kill our parents. They were abusing us.") Followed quickly by Lorena Bobbit ("I had to cut off his pee-pee, he was raping me.") Now of course, by the time these two trials hit the headlines, the country was already in the proper mindset to buy them. You can see this mindset EVERYWHERE, at least everywhere in America: It's not my fault, I had a bad childhood. I didn't mean to strangle my coach, but he shouldn't have talked to me like that. I killed 32 people because I was abused as a child. I only killed my wife (and her best friend) because I'm sure she was cheating on me (with a gay man???) Sinead is just another victim who is stepping forward in her own way. People are ready to accept the victim mentality. I haven't really seen it go away, it's only weakened a very little bit. And i can find many many more victim references than the ones you mentioned, because Sinead=Victim as far as I'm concerned: And if YOU said jump in the river, I would The thing that YOU destroyed is the thing you liked me for SHE took my father from my life Even her choice of cover songs are steeped in victimhood: Damn YOUR Eyes Why don't YOU do Right SUCCESS made a failure of our home Even the single Don't Cry for Me Argentina. I have said this before, but it bears repeating for this post. Listen to the quality of her voice in this song. She WANTS you to cry for her. Sinead brings out all the hardships Evita has gone through and ignores her strength. Don't get me wrong, I like Sinead's interpretation and I am not a huge fan of a the bloody Peron's BUT the song has a strength in it (in the character of Evita) that Sinead just tosses out the window. As to WHY or HOW the country slipped into this...that's where you would have to refer to a good analysis. My $.02 don From jitr-owner Sat Mar 7 06:03:02 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) id GAA10135 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 06:03:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from pike.sover.net (root@pike.sover.net [204.71.16.17]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-980201) with ESMTP id GAA10131 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 06:02:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from 204.71.17.152 (usr0a22.bf.sover.net [204.71.17.152]) by pike.sover.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA24304; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 09:02:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35012217.3818@sover.net> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 10:31:52 +0000 From: Joe & Anna Milliken X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0