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Bilal and everyone,

After reading the various responses and re-listening to Red Football, I have
to say I've changed my mind about my first interpretation.  Having been
raised in a fairly loving home by literate and affectionate parents, I have
boon slow to pick up on this kind of message.  At the same time, having
known many persons now who have been raised in violent and/or disassociative
homes, I think I now agree with your interpretations.

Maybe what threw me was the "jumping up and eating you" line and the "ya ya
ya ya" refrain at the end, which I associated with mock anger directed
toward small children in play.  Like when you mock threaten to bite their
fingers and they tease you and you "snap" at them, but always miss.

But then, the crocodile lines reminded me of Rilke's poem about the panther
in the zoo, the sense of being trapped...  You've said it all so much
better.

By the way, thanks also for the reference to the book about Sinead.  I'll
try to find it.

dunc

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> Behalf Of Bilal A.Rana
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>
>
> Hullo Duncan and everyone,
>
> I must say I agree with Jenni.  To think that Sinead of all people would
> sing Red Football to her son, even mockingly ... well, it doesn't add up.
> Actually, I think that's a pretty cruel interpretation.
>
> Red Football is an anthem of defiance for the abused and downtrodden.  It
> is directed, I think, to those who would abuse.  I always thought it was
> directed to the following audiences: 1) her abusive mother  2) the media
> whom she's had troubles with 3) a possible abusive companion.
>
> I thought Jenni's observation that it may represent a rape survivor
> confronting the rapist was particularly profound.  It was something I had
> never thought of.
>
> A tangent:  In Dermott Hayes book, "Sinead O'Connor, So Different," I
> believe they quoted one of Sinead's english teachers who said that the
> examples/characters sinead chose to write about told of Sinead's intense
> sensibilties, perceptiveness and capacity to feel and empathize.  For me,
> this was reinforced when she sang of the crocodile in Dublin zoo:
>
> I'm not no crocodile
> Like the one in Dublin Zoo
> Who lived in a cage the length and breadth of his body
> When a window which people could look through
> And throw coins on his back to taunt him 'though he couldn't move
> Even if he wanted to
>
> Maan, sinead is awesome.
>
> later,
>
> bilal
>
> ---------------------------------------
> http://callisto.uwinnipeg.ca/~brana/sinead.htm
> brana@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca
> --------------------------------------
>
>


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As much as I'd like to see this subject dropped, I have to responed to a  post
that summed up home-schooling as a reason to "satisfy the Republican in you."
Parents who take the initiative (like mine) to question the mainstream/public
schools/the government deserve some long over-due respect for actually using
their  brain to decide how to live/raise children for themselves, instead of
mindlessly following & being confined to  the boundaries of a system that a
giant cookie-cutter government has set for us.  Anyone with the guts to live
unconventionally in this society has a much greater thinking capacity for
deciding how their  children should live than that they would be doing it
for--above all-- political reasons. reasons of our own DO exist outside of any
set system. Whether we choose to see them through or not.  Do you think a
college degree could light a candle to the talent Sinead has on loan from God?
SHE'S not part of the mainstream. None of us are the exact same person as
anybody else, so why must we keep  insisting on finding a shirt (so to speak)
that doesn't fit and forcing it on the heads  of
innocent/creative/genius/happy/INDIVIDUAL  children????   2 Germans had
something in common...one wanted to  end the lives  of Jews,  the other wanted
to end the lives of  children as individuals starting at a very young age --so
he created Kindergarten. 2 historical phenomenons that  make  no sense!!
...think about it--one system, based on  1 man's idea, &  inflicted  onto  the
lives of people so young as children, can't be right  for the entire WORLD to
abide by?!  Life is something else!   We all have the potential to be that art
which we see & love  in others, like Sinead or whoever, but instead of
cultivating our own depth with passion, like she has accomplished, our time &
energy is wasted doing  things that government/society tells us we should be
doing;  school even if you hate it/jobs with  money & no meaning etc. etc.
and we don't question a damn thing. Just the way they like it.   I couldn't
contain my frustration!...
        
                             Good night river jumpers! ~Keep dreaming!!!

P.S. Congrats to Jenni  on a well thought out & excellent post!!!!!!!!:)
 

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Anyone interested in trading Sinead stuff on MiniDisc?  Van Morrison and
others also considered.

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This song is not one of my favorites, agreed, but if anything, it's the
production that redeems it.  It's very uncharacteristic of Sinead.  I love
all those indisinguishable electric instruments at the end, and the
layered voices.  

Kevin

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But you tasted of wine"
   
     


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From: Charlie Baltimore <kak2395@is4.nyu.edu>
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Subject: My Incredible Weekend: St. Mark's Connection; The Butcher Boy News
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This was a cool weekend Sinead-wise and I couldn't wait to get online to
write about it!

1)  There seems to be a big link with Sinead and St. Mark's Place.  (For
those unfamiliar, St. Mark's Place is the hub of the trendy, grungy part
of Manhattan we call The East Village...if for no other reason then that
it actually has a name and isn't just called 8th Street.)  First, Sinead
dedicates Am I Not Your Girl to some rat or street people or something (I
haven't looked at that cd booklet in ages) on St. Mark's Place.  I live
near there and secretly have an eye out for the return of the Messiah
whenever I'm there.  Anyway, It's also the only place in the world (other
than at her concerts) that I've seen Sinead t-shirts for sale, though I'm
sure there are others.  Also, it's one of the few places where you can
occasionally find a Sinead bootleg in a cd store (I got my Beautiful
Visions at Venus Records there).  In fact all of Sinead-dom in Manhattan,
excepting Rebel Rebel in the West Village, seems to be on St. Mark's.  So
it shouldn't have come as a surprise when I was at Orlin Cafe Friday and
heard "Empire."  Dunno if they were playing the whole "Best Of" on shuffle
with other cd's (as I do where I work) or not, but that was the only
Sinead I heard while I was there.  This, coincidentally, is only 4 blocks
north of the bar where Christian Petrulio says they play "Best of" (sorry
Christian, I haven't been in because The Boiler Room scares me!) and only
3 blocks south of Taylor's Bakery, where I've heard I'm Stretched on Your
Grave.

Maybe this rambling is bizarre for non US citzens, but in this country,
whenever I hear Sinead being played I feel like there's been a miracle of
some sort.

2)  Went to see Almodovar's Live Flesh (Carne Tremula) at the Angelika
Saturday and am VERY happy to report that, although the film was great,
the best part of the evening was THE BUTCHER BOY PREVIEW!!!  I haven't
heard anything in awhile, so this is the first verification I've had that
the film will definately play in this country, and soon.  Check record
stores to see when the soundtrack will be in because she was singing a
ballad, presumably called "the Butcher Boy," for that was one of the
lyrics, on the preview.  She's BEAUTIFUL!!!  The screen flashed:
   Starring SO and SO
then
   So and So
then
   And introducing So and So
then
   and Sinead O'Connor
At which point I applauded loudly (and alone in the sold out theatre).
There's framed painting they show of the Virgin (Sinead's face) and it
winks, and my heart fluttered!  Apparently in another scene, her whole
glorious, radiant body is levitating above a field.
    For anyone interested, I read the book this December and from what I
gleaned, it seems very faithful.  I saw the appropriate tone of
horrifically ironic comedy in the preview.  I will say, however, that even
if Sinead's role consists solely of what I saw in the preview, it's bigger
than the Virgin's role in the book.  Her appearance was just a few lines
in the novel.

Sorry for boring you all.  The ONLY email I've received in the last
week has been the JITR digest.  Has anyone anything to add to the St.
Mark's coincidences or to news of the Butcher Boy?  Does anyone know of
any cd's stores that stock rare Sinead in New York?  And, completely
unrelated, is anyone here from Baltimore?

Kevin

"I thought I tasted of too many cigarettes,
But you tasted of wine"
   
     


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I Forward the mail to y'all. I'd be happy if anyone can clarifiy bout
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Charlie Baltimore wrote:
> 
> This was a cool weekend Sinead-wise and I couldn't wait to get online to
> write about it!
> 
> 1)  There seems to be a big link with Sinead and St. Mark's Place.  (For
> those unfamiliar, St. Mark's Place is the hub of the trendy, grungy part
> of Manhattan we call The East Village...if for no other reason then that
> it actually has a name and isn't just called 8th Street.)  First, Sinead
> dedicates Am I Not Your Girl to some rat or street people or something (I
> haven't looked at that cd booklet in ages) on St. Mark's Place.  I live
> near there and secretly have an eye out for the return of the Messiah
> whenever I'm there.  Anyway, It's also the only place in the world (other
> than at her concerts) that I've seen Sinead t-shirts for sale, though I'm
> sure there are others.  Also, it's one of the few places where you can
> occasionally find a Sinead bootleg in a cd store (I got my Beautiful
> Visions at Venus Records there).  In fact all of Sinead-dom in Manhattan,
> excepting Rebel Rebel in the West Village, seems to be on St. Mark's.  So
> it shouldn't have come as a surprise when I was at Orlin Cafe Friday and
> heard "Empire."  Dunno if they were playing the whole "Best Of" on shuffle
> with other cd's (as I do where I work) or not, but that was the only
> Sinead I heard while I was there.  This, coincidentally, is only 4 blocks
> north of the bar where Christian Petrulio says they play "Best of" (sorry
> Christian, I haven't been in because The Boiler Room scares me!) and only
> 3 blocks south of Taylor's Bakery, where I've heard I'm Stretched on Your
> Grave.
> 
> Maybe this rambling is bizarre for non US citzens, but in this country,
> whenever I hear Sinead being played I feel like there's been a miracle of
> some sort.
> 
> 2)  Went to see Almodovar's Live Flesh (Carne Tremula) at the Angelika
> Saturday and am VERY happy to report that, although the film was great,
> the best part of the evening was THE BUTCHER BOY PREVIEW!!!  I haven't
> heard anything in awhile, so this is the first verification I've had that
> the film will definately play in this country, and soon.  Check record
> stores to see when the soundtrack will be in because she was singing a
> ballad, presumably called "the Butcher Boy," for that was one of the
> lyrics, on the preview.  She's BEAUTIFUL!!!  The screen flashed:
>    Starring SO and SO
> then
>    So and So
> then
>    And introducing So and So
> then
>    and Sinead O'Connor
> At which point I applauded loudly (and alone in the sold out theatre).
> There's framed painting they show of the Virgin (Sinead's face) and it
> winks, and my heart fluttered!  Apparently in another scene, her whole
> glorious, radiant body is levitating above a field.
>     For anyone interested, I read the book this December and from what I
> gleaned, it seems very faithful.  I saw the appropriate tone of
> horrifically ironic comedy in the preview.  I will say, however, that even
> if Sinead's role consists solely of what I saw in the preview, it's bigger
> than the Virgin's role in the book.  Her appearance was just a few lines
> in the novel.
> 
> Sorry for boring you all.  The ONLY email I've received in the last
> week has been the JITR digest.  Has anyone anything to add to the St.
> Mark's coincidences or to news of the Butcher Boy?  Does anyone know of
> any cd's stores that stock rare Sinead in New York?  And, completely
> unrelated, is anyone here from Baltimore?
> 
> Kevin
> 
> "I thought I tasted of too many cigarettes,
> But you tasted of wine"
> 
> 

Hi Kevin,

I really enjoyed your e-mail.  I can relate to most of what was said,
especially this paragraph "Maybe this rambling is bizarre for non US
citzens, but in this country, whenever I hear Sinead being played I feel
like there's been a miracle of some sort."

I also feel the "The Miracle Effect"!!

You may want to check out www.butcherboy.com!  I have been
monitoring/stalking this site for a couple of months but so far all they
have is one picture of some boys in a field, down on their knees,
looking up and you just know it has to be Sinead!  Also, The trailer is
listed as coming soon.  But it is still worth checking out!

Ken

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These virus warning are hoaxes. A virus can't be in an e-mail since e-mails
are not executable files.... But a virus may be in a word macro attached to
an e-mail. Just be careful with the attached files and do not chose word in
your settings to automatically open the attached text files.... but you
can't be infected just by opening an e-mail. For further informations have
a look at : http://kumite.com/myths/myths/
The aim of these hoaxes are just to block mailing lists with warning
messages...

Sophie

>Hi All, I've got a virus warning mail from my friend. It warned me bout
>the virus that's attached itself to e-mail. I really don't know how true
>it is, nor I believe it 100%, but hey prevention is always a good thing.
>
>I Forward the mail to y'all. I'd be happy if anyone can clarifiy bout
>this mail/virus
>
>>>>
>>>>VIRUS WARNING
>>>>
>>>>If you receive an email titled "JOIN THE CREW"  DO NOT open it.  It
>will
>>>>erase everything on your hard drive.
>>>>
>>>>This is a new, very malicious virus and not many people know about
>it.
>>>>This information was announced yesterday AM from IBM.  Please share
>it
>>>>with everyone that has access to the internet.
>>>>
>>>>Also do NOT open any mail that says "RETURNED or UNABLE TO DELIVER".
>>>>This virus will attach itself to your computer components and render
>them
>>>>useless.  Immediately delete any mail items that say this.  AOL has
>said
>>>>that this is a very dangerous virus and that there is NO remedy at
>this
>>>>time.
>>>>
>>>>Please practice cautionary measures and forward to all your online
>>>>friends ASAP.
>--
>--+---------------------------------------------------
>Andreas Sylverius
>Jl. Deme 12 A Bandung 40273
>Phone (022) 319-070
>Slysly@indosat.net.id
>
>"I Have A Dream", Martin Luther King, Jr.
>--------------------------------------------------+---




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From: "Holli Marshall" <hmm@minn.net>
To: "Jitr" <jitr@postmodern.com>
Subject: Butcher Boy/Roisin Dubh
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 05:40:16 -0600
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Hello all!

Two things:
First I went to the butcher boy site and couldn't find one photo of Sinead, and
she wasn't on the cast list.  Is this because her role is so small?

Second:
I mentioned that I was taping the 6 hour long PBS special "Irish in America" 
Sinead has the very first song on the tape, it's background music with v/o
(voice over) but it's clear as day her and they turn it up when no one is
speaking!  I looked at the credits and it said "Roisin Dubh by Sinead O'Connor"
 I couldn't tell you what she said as it was in Gaelic, but if anyone knows
where to find this song, what she is singing about, and if there is a
correlation between this title and her naming of her daughter?
Thanks!!!
Holli
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The Butcher Boy site has not been updated for at least two months!  I
think that as the movie gets closer to a US release, they will at least
add the trailer that should have Sinead.

Although I have not heard the song and don't know any of the lyrics, I
do  know that Roisin Dubh means Black Rose.

Holli Marshall wrote:
> 
> Hello all!
> 
> Two things:
> First I went to the butcher boy site and couldn't find one photo of Sinead, and
> she wasn't on the cast list.  Is this because her role is so small?
> 
> Second:
> I mentioned that I was taping the 6 hour long PBS special "Irish in America"
> Sinead has the very first song on the tape, it's background music with v/o
> (voice over) but it's clear as day her and they turn it up when no one is
> speaking!  I looked at the credits and it said "Roisin Dubh by Sinead O'Connor"
>  I couldn't tell you what she said as it was in Gaelic, but if anyone knows
> where to find this song, what she is singing about, and if there is a
> correlation between this title and her naming of her daughter?
> Thanks!!!
> Holli
>        \\\|///
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>       ( @  @ )
> ---oOOo-(_)-oOOo--------------------------------------
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Hi!!

	I was told by some people who deal with computers that it's just a bad
taste joke.... You can't infect a computer by receiving an e-mail cos
it's not a program. The only way is if there's an attached file and you
OPEN the file. So you just need the basic care: don't download files
you're not sure of the "confiability"  of the source!!

	Chris (Brazil)

Aster - Andreas wrote:
> 
> Hi All, I've got a virus warning mail from my friend. It warned me bout
> the virus that's attached itself to e-mail. I really don't know how true
> it is, nor I believe it 100%, but hey prevention is always a good thing.
> 
> I Forward the mail to y'all. I'd be happy if anyone can clarifiy bout
> this mail/virus
> 
> >>>
> >>>VIRUS WARNING
> >>>
> >>>If you receive an email titled "JOIN THE CREW"  DO NOT open it.  It
> will
> >>>erase everything on your hard drive.
> >>>
> >>>This is a new, very malicious virus and not many people know about
> it.
> >>>This information was announced yesterday AM from IBM.  Please share
> it
> >>>with everyone that has access to the internet.
> >>>
> >>>Also do NOT open any mail that says "RETURNED or UNABLE TO DELIVER".
> >>>This virus will attach itself to your computer components and render
> them
> >>>useless.  Immediately delete any mail items that say this.  AOL has
> said
> >>>that this is a very dangerous virus and that there is NO remedy at
> this
> >>>time.
> >>>
> >>>Please practice cautionary measures and forward to all your online
> >>>friends ASAP.
> --
> --+---------------------------------------------------
> Andreas Sylverius
> Jl. Deme 12 A Bandung 40273
> Phone (022) 319-070
> Slysly@indosat.net.id
> 
> "I Have A Dream", Martin Luther King, Jr.
> --------------------------------------------------+---

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          A friend of mine went to see a movie last night and said
          that they showed the Buther Boy preview.  He said that a
          very beautiful Sinead song played during the entire trailor
          and that they showed Sinead and it said, "starring Sinead
          O'Connor".  He did not remember when they said it would be
          released.

          Christian

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I have to aggree.  
I have never liked this song.  

It is not that it is uncharacterisitc, it just never seems to fit the rest
of the album.  "Drink before the War" seems a better last song.

Tim.
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Sorry to interrupt, guys n' gals
but....
To the person who enquired about removing themselves from the
jitr mailing list:

To do so:
send mail to <majordomo@server.postmodern.com> with the following
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	Everyone is saying that Just Call Me Joe is a bad song but I 
really like it.  I think the idea of the voice reciting at the end with 
the noise is very creative and cool sounding.  C'mon, leave the song alone.
	P.S I like I Want your (hands on me)


On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Timothy S. Brannan wrote:

> I have to aggree.  
> I have never liked this song.  
> 
> It is not that it is uncharacterisitc, it just never seems to fit the rest
> of the album.  "Drink before the War" seems a better last song.
> 
> Tim.
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> University of Illinois at Chicago  
> 
> alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 newsgroup FAQ. 
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> 
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> a little something about courage."   - X-Files.
> 
> 

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hi

sorry if people already know about this but, i was about 15 minutes into
watching the film "the substance of fire" when (you guessed it) i heard that
voice we all love say "petit poulet".  completely shocked and a little annoyed
(my father had watched the film before me, and when i asked him if it was
worth watching he told me tony goldwyn and sarah jessica parker were in it.
you'd think he recognize sinead's voice as much as i play her!)  i had to
rewatch the scene to even know what had happened i was so distracted the first
time.  the song is contextually very appropriate and is replayed in the end
credits.  it's also a pretty good movie so if you get a chance check it out.
on st. mark's, between about kim's underground and sounds there usually is a
guy who sells live concerts on the street.  he always has a copy of sinead's
show at the beacon in 88.  i bought a shirt there as well, and can completely
relate to all you said about miricles, although i work in a music store and
per each shift create my own miricles.

             
                love you all
                max                                                 

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i have not seen a trailer for the butcher boy but i DID see it listed in a
couple articles about new films coming out in '98. the article i read in the
SF Chronicle (early in january) said it was due late in FEBRUARY (this
month!!!). altho sometimes the release date of movies gets pushed back for
various reasons, i think everyone who was worried about the movie NOT being
released in the US can be sure it will play in major cities, if not more
widely.

xoxo---claudia

ps The Long Journey Home was really excellent. i learned a lot about irish
history, tho the slant may have gone easy on british action/inaction on behalf
of the starving irish. that kind of paternalism gone wrong still hapens in the
world today, unfortunately.

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I would have to say I like the song too......
-Holli
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: From: Marianne Dages <mdages@Tower-Hill.pvt.k12.de.us>
: To: Timothy S. Brannan <tbrann1@uic.edu>
: Cc: jitr@server.postmodern.com
: Subject: Re: Just Call me Joe (Was: Worst Song)
: Date: Monday, February 02, 1998 11:18 AM
: 
: 
: 	Everyone is saying that Just Call Me Joe is a bad song but I 
: really like it.  I think the idea of the voice reciting at the end with 
: the noise is very creative and cool sounding.  C'mon, leave the song alone.
: 	P.S I like I Want your (hands on me)
: 
: 
: On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Timothy S. Brannan wrote:
: 
: > I have to aggree.  
: > I have never liked this song.  
: > 
: > It is not that it is uncharacterisitc, it just never seems to fit the rest
: > of the album.  "Drink before the War" seems a better last song.
: > 
: > Tim.
: > --------------------------------------------------------------------
: > Timothy S. Brannan                     tbrann1@uic.edu 
: > Dept. of Educational Psychology        TBrannan@usa.net
: > College of Education                   tbrannan@iname.com
: > University of Illinois at Chicago  
: > 
: > alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 newsgroup FAQ. 
: > http://www.uic.edu/~tbrann1/gateway.html
: > 
: > "I didn't play Dungeons and Dragons all those years and not learn 
: > a little something about courage."   - X-Files.
: > 
: > 

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Thank you to all who answered my question about this song.
Boy is it ever beautiful, but I don't need to tell everyone in this group :o)

Is there anyone who knows what CD/if so it is on?



______________________________________________________

This is a side note.  I was wondering if we could share were we are from.  I'm
a curious person and would like to see how many different countries we are
communicating with.
Sinead is so global!  :o)

Holli Marshall - Minneapolis, Minnesota - USA
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From: "Holli Marshall" <hmm@minn.net>
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    Is "The Long Journey Home" the same PBS special as "Irish in America"?  If
so, why do they have different names?  This one is three parts making a total
of 6 hours.  The first is titled "The Famine" the second part is titled "Across
America" and the third I haven't gotten to watch just yet....

If anyone has any insight, please let me know.
Sincerely,
Holli


 

YOU WROTE:
: The Long Journey Home was really excellent. i learned a lot about irish
: history, tho the slant may have gone easy on british action/inaction on
behalf
: of the starving irish. that kind of paternalism gone wrong still hapens in
the
: world today, unfortunately.


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In the February 2, 1998, People magazine (entitled Diana's Legacy of Love), in
the Picks & Pans Song section, there is a review of the Long Journey Home CD
which states "but it is O'Connor's spare and lovely dirge "Skibbereen" that
steals the show." Also, there is a picture of Sinead singing.

Jane

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From: bilal rana <brana@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca>
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hullo jitr,

well, i was jus' workin on a sinead collage the other day, and posted it
on my homepage as well.  depending on the sensitivity of your screens the
image will look different,  its not the cool as it could be.  it has
its strengths as well and its redeeming aspects.  its a good starting
point. i've included some pics which i think capture her intensity.
should you have any recommendations of pics to include in the collage as
it continues to develop, drop me an email.  i hope you enjoy it

btw, i also put up some more sinead image combos i was workin on in the
past.

the url is http://callisto.uwinnipeg.ca/~brana/sinead.htm

and both the collage and the combos are under the Some Fun Pictures link

later

bilal


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Holli Marshall wrote:
> 
> Thank you to all who answered my question about this song.
> Boy is it ever beautiful, but I don't need to tell everyone in this group :o)
> 
> Is there anyone who knows what CD/if so it is on?
> 
> ______________________________________________________
> 
> This is a side note.  I was wondering if we could share were we are from.  I'm
> a curious person and would like to see how many different countries we are
> communicating with.
> Sinead is so global!  :o)
> 
> Holli Marshall - Minneapolis, Minnesota - USA
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in response to holli's question about where we all are from:

my name is amira siegel (i go by "ami"). i am from san diego,
california, but i'm living a long way from home at present. i am
currently a sophomore at the university of puget sound in tacoma,
washington, so the sunshine seems only a distant memory.... i guess i'll
leave it at that for now :)

ami

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Hi,

 In response to Holli's question...I live in Massachussettes but originaly am
from Alabama. Ami, I used to live in Tacoma also. 

Chris

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I am from seattle, wa and I am a sociology major at the univ. of
washington.  As a side note I would just like to add that through this
list I have been able to meet sinead fans from all over the world.

adios,
eric


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Hi all

I live in Dijon, France (300 km south east from Paris). I am a biology PhD
student at the University of Burgundy.

Sophie



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Since most of us seem to come from the American part of this world --
here's another member from good old Europe:

I'm from Halle/Germany and I know that there is at least one more member
from East Germany besides me. I'm a student of Economics (but not only) at
the Martin-Luther-University Halle/Wittenberg and have been a subscriber
of JITR for about 2,5 years I think. Although sometimes I got the
impression that there are others obviously even more weird than myself, I
most of the time found it very interesting and entertaining to hear
from you and about HER. Most of my friends think she's pretty cool and
sings well but so what ... -- here at the JITR I got also provided with
the knowledge that I am not the only one who sees her as someone very
special and close.

Thank you
Niels


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(I came to hate this so I'll set up a new one soon)


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Hi!

        I'm an economist, and I'm (and live in) from Belo Horizonte,
Brazil. At the moment, I'm studying to get my Masters degree and I've
been invited to a selection to become a lecturer at the University...
please, fingers crossed for me!!!! (That would rise my scholarship in
50%, apart from the curriculum!).

	Chris


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hi all,
 
 my name is todd. i am live in a jersey suburb of philadelphia. i am in my
last sememster of my undergraduate studies in history. to say that sinead has
been an influence in my life would be an understatement. she helped me choose
what major i pursued in college. here's the story:
 
         one day on my way to college in west viriginia i was listening to the
university of pennsylvania's radio station. they play every type of music
imaginable. up to this point i wasn't a huge sinead fan. i listened to her but
didn't really get into her music. by chance they were playing 'famine'. it
took me by surprise. i listened to it and decided that as soon as i landed at
school i was going to find what cd it was on and buy it. well i did. i loved
it. she sparked in me a real interest in my heritage. i was also lucky that it
was the beginning of the semester and they offered the history of ireland as a
course. needless to say i signed up. ever since i have taken a special
interest in irish history. in june i am hoping to take 3 classes at the
university of galway in irish history and then hopefully pursue my master's
degree in irish studies at the university of ulster. 
 
 i can honestly say that sinead has influenced me in one of my biggest life
decisions.
 
 you may think i'm nuts, but were all a little nuts in this world =).
 
 thank you for hearing me
 
 todd


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hi all,

my name is todd. i am live in a jersey suburb of philadelphia. i am in my last
sememster of my undergraduate studies in history. to say that sinead has been
an influence in my life would be an understatement. she helped me choose what
major i pursued in college. here's the story:

        one day on my way to college in west viriginia i was listening to the
university of pennsylvania's radio station. they play every type of music
imaginable. up to this point i wasn't a huge sinead fan. i listened to her but
didn't really get into her music. by chance they were playing 'famine'. it
took me by surprise. i listened to it and decided that as soon as i landed at
school i was going to find what cd it was on and buy it. well i did. i loved
it. she sparked in me a real interest in my heritage. i was also lucky that it
was the beginning of the semester and they offered the history of ireland as a
course. needless to say i signed up. ever since i have taken a special
interest in irish history. in june i am hoping to take 3 classes at the
university of galway in irish history and then hopefully pursue my master's
degree in irish studies at the university of ulster. 

i can honestly say that sinead has influenced me in one of my biggest life
decisions.

you may think i'm nuts, but were all a little nuts in this world =).

thank you for hearing me

todd

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Hello, jitr-members.

Here's some gossip for you. On Saturday, there was a Sinead O'Connor
message in the VIVA (a German "Music" TV station, playing Euro-Dance all
the time)-Teletext: The brother of the famous Irish singer S.O'C., John
O'Connor, is scared about how famous Sinead is. He released his new
book called "The Salesman", and now, everybody is asking about connections
between the book and Sinead a.s.o. In Ireland, John O'Connor said, the
people like talking about private things, now everybody searches for some
Sinead-related things in the book. 
Well, as i said, it's German media-gossip. Does anyone know this book?

And hey - concerning the SO FAR listing in the German charts... Well,
Sinead has left the building :-(  For those who do not know: Last week,
she "entered" the official charts on #97. It was her highest rank. How
bizarre.

Holli wanted to know WHO we are - well, it's a good idea, but please, DO
it as short as possible - jitr is still a Sinead mailing list.
So hey: I'm Daniel, living in Leipzig, Saxony, Germany. I am studiing
communications, media and German lingustics and literature. My first
"contact" with Sinead was in 1990 (NC2U....), since 1994, i'm a sinead
collector. And the most important thing: Feel free to e-mail me privately.

Finally, one more question: Is there a German jitr member who already got
the LONG JOURNEY HOME cd? I cannot find it :-(

That's all for now.
Shalom,

Daniel. 
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my first posting.  ... just to let everyone know i'm from Raleigh, North
Carolina, origionally from Asheville, North Carolina.  Have a nice day.

tim

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Hi Holli and JITR, 
	
	I watched some of The Long Journey Home as well (a friend was able
to tape it and will give me a copy soon so I can finish watching it).  I
watched most of the first part and went and bought the soundtrack the next
day!  That`s all I've been listening to for the past 2 weeks!
Unfortunately, Sinead only has one song on it and it is "Skibbereen".
It`s an amazing song and when I first heard it, I thought I was going to
cry.  It's about a man who loses everything to the famine, including his
wife, but takes his 2-year-old son to America, to a new life.  The song is
sung from the man's point of view and he's telling his son why he left
"Erin's Isle".  Anyways, unfortunately, "Roisin Dubh" isn't on the
soundtrack.  There is, however, a lot of other beautiful Irish music (but
of course, Sinead's is the best).
	
	Regarding the title, I may be mistaken (I'd have to check the cd
cover, which I left at home) but I thought the program was called "Long
Journey Home: The Irish in America".  I'm almost positive that that's the
title so it's not 2 separate programs.

Jen

p.s.  I'm from Canada, I think I'm the first Canadian who has responded to
Holli's question.  My dad's in the military so I've moved around a lot
(Canada and Germany) but I'm in Ottawa right now (the nation's capital)
and I attend the University of Ottawa, 3rd-year Biology.


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     Hello everyone.  First of all, I too saw the trailor for The Butcher 
     Boy and it looks very good.  Secondly, I heard on MTV this morning 
     that Sinead was confirmed for this year's Lilith Fair tour along with 
     Natalie Merchant and some other famous people.  My internet access 
     sucks, so if anyone can look up in the www.lilithfair.com site to 
     confirm this, it would be great.  However, it seemed pretty official!  
     If we are introducing ourselves, I live in New York and am preparing 
     to start medical school in September.
     
     Christian 

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>From the Lilith Fair site:

Artists Announced For Lilith  '98

 MTV has announced that Erykah Badu, Sinead O'Connor, and
Natalie Merchant will be joining next summer's Lilith Fair
tour scheduled to begin June 19 in Portland, OR. 

All three were among the most requested additions from fans
for this year's tour. 

The three newcomers will join Lilith founder Sarah McLachlan
and one of the most popular acts from last summer, the
Indigo Girls on the main stage. Also announced as performing
on the second stage were Tara MacLean, who played many dates
last summer, and K's Choice, a fan favourite from the
Florida show. 

There will be many artists and dates announced in the near
future. Stay tuned for more. 

(By the way, I live in DeKalb, Illinois which is not too far
from Chicago)

Thanks, 

Sumiko 

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Hi everyone -- I am wondering if anyone here has read any of John O'Connor's
novels? For a long time I have known Sinead had a brother who is a
writer/novelist & have wanted to check his works out. I wonder how he writes
-- is he an anti - novelist/experimental writer -- does anyone here know?
Coming from the same family as Sinead he too is probably a pretty interesting
person. I also know that Sinead's sister played harp on "Universal
Mother"....it is wonderfull three artists have come from Sinead's family. ( A
singer/songwriter, a harpist & a writer....though I know Sinead & her brother
& sister are more than those tidy labels. Just for brevity's sake....:P )
Shalom -- Jenni

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Hi all!

I'm also from Raleigh, North Carolina, USA.  I will graduate in May with 
a degree in English.  I've been a member of the list for the past 2 years.

I'm so excited about Lillith Fair.  It came here last year so I'm keeping 
my fingers crossed it will come again.

Thanks, 
Christy

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What?  Did you say Sinead'll be at  Lilith Fair?  YES. YES. YES. YES. YES.
Yes!!!!  I have a chance to redeem myself and make up for missing every
single one of the 97 tour dates.

Maybe I won't even have to travel!!, I heard Lilith may be coming to
Winnipeg, Canada (where I live).  Oh man.  I am TOOO excited.

My only regret is, as someone posted in september, that the fair
atmosphere of lilith may be less appropriate for sinead's intimate
performance than her performing alone in a concert hall.  But although a
purely Sinead concert would be the preferred alternative, I'll take
what I can get.   :)  

super excited and just beaming,

bilal




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Hello Sinead Lovers!

I first started listening to Sinead's music in 1988, and I don't plan on 
stopping any time soon.  I grew up in Albany, New York.  Three years ago I 
received my Industrial Engineering degree from Georgia Tech, and I have 
remained in Atlanta since then - although as I write this I am sitting in 
Tulsa, Oklahoma on a business trip.  One thing is for sure... No matter 
where I am I always brings some Sinead CD's with me...

-Jeremy


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When I read the issue speaking of "The long journey home" I am angry, because in
France we can't find (in PARIS!!!) it and the shop (virgin megastore) are full of
stupid sellers , they never heard about this record and take me for a fool " Are you
sure it exists ?" and I say " yes , I heard it on the web!".
Poor , poor boy....I am.



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     Does anyone have a schedule for the Fair?  (Sorry if I missed it if it 
     was indeed posted before). 

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Great question!
     I live in Simi Valley, California (about 30 miles northwest of Los
Angeles)....  I'm 25 years old and I have been teaching at an adult school for
over 4 years now but I have just received my credentials to teach elementary
school.
    Sinéad has been an ENORMOUS influence and inspiration for me since the first
time I ever heard her voice... when I was 16.  I have been HOOKED ever since then
and I have been fortunate enough to see her in concert 3 times: I Do Not Want What
I Haven't Got tour (1990), WOMAD tour w/ Peter Gabriel (1993) and of course, this
past August!  Now I am THRILLED to hear about the upcoming Lillith Fair... I plan
to see her then too!!!

****... congratulations Christiane!!!

All my best,
Ana.







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i went to the lilith fair homepage and they said it is too early to post the
dates yet except for the opening one in seattle.

all i can say is i can't wait. i will have to make it to more than just one
show. i hope that i see some of you guys there.

todd

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Hi All

I live in Bandung, Indonesia. I'm a student in Informatics Department,
Institut Teknologi Bandung. I plan to graduate this year.

My encounter w/ Sinead begun with Nothing Compares. It's still one of my
most fave til now. But when I heard the album " I do not..", back in
1992, I was thinking "what a weird album..". At the time I only liked
Nothing and I do not want.. I couldn't enjoy other songs.

After that I didn't pay much attention to Sinead until I heard "Success
has .." which I loved.  Still she was just a top-40 singer for me.

Things changed when I listened to  "Univesal mother" I  loved the album
and so I took a deeper attention on Sinead.

Not to say that I'm a die-hard fans but I really appreciate her voice,
her way to sing, her songs, her music and her principles.

--+---------------------------------------------------
Andreas Sylverius
"I Have A Dream", Martin Luther King, Jr.
--------------------------------------------------+---






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Ana Ramos wrote:
 
> ****... congratulations Christiane!!!

Contratulations for which one,exaclty, or both????? ;~)

Chris

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		> but time has no mercy
		> time won't stand still for you 

					(B.Adams)
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Results of where some of ya'll live.  We still have many more out there to
respond, I'm keeping track so I'll post more later.  Kinda neat huh?

Andreas - Indonesia
Ana - California, US
Bruno - Paris, France
Jeremy - Atlanta, US
Bilal - Canada
Christy - North Carolina, US
Sophie - France
Eric - Washington, US
Sumiko - Illinois, US
Jen - Canada
Christian - New York, US
Tim - North Carolina, US
Daniel - Germany
Todd - Philadelphia, PA, US
Chris - Brazil
Niels - Europe
Claudia - San Francisco, US
Holli - Minneapolis, MN, US
Joe - St. Paul, MN, US
Chris - Massachusetts, US
Ami - Washington, US



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On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, E. Kolve wrote:

> I am from seattle, wa and I am a sociology major at the univ. of
> washington.  As a side note I would just like to add that through this
> list I have been able to meet sinead fans from all over the world.
> 
> adios,
> eric
> 
HI!!

I am attending U of Wash, also, as I am sure you can tell from my e-mail
address.  I am majoring in Political Science and Communications and I hope
to become a lawyer and help to fight for the just who are injured
injustly (like Sinead, but in a different way :-) )!!  I am very excited
to hear of someone else on this list at UW,
also!!

:-)
Dana


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Holli Marshall wrote:

> Results of where some of ya'll live.  We still have many more out
> there to
> respond, I'm keeping track so I'll post more later.  Kinda neat huh?
>
> Andreas - Indonesia

.....

> Ami - Washington, US

Hi.!

  Take the recipient list of the jirt and you will see about 180
Sinead fans around the world. And I'm too here in Estonia (north side
of East-Europe). I study informatics in the University of the Tartu (a
small university town:-)
--
with best regards Toomas
-------------------------
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Hello.  I'm pretty quiet on this list, but I thought I'd stand up and be
counted.

I live in Lexington, Kentucky, USA.  I work at the public library here
and also work in the local theater community.  

Amy

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     Hello, yawl.  I'm here in New York, and I work for a major 
     international publishing house.  (Anybody out there wrote a book 
     recently?...)
     
     
     Just thought I'd add my geographical input.  Thanks.

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Hello.  I'm pretty quiet on this list, but I thought I'd stand up and be
counted.

I live in Lexington, Kentucky, USA.  I work at the public library here
and also work in the local theater community.  

Amy

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Hi, I've been a quiet observer up until now.  My name is Dan, and I live
in New York, but I go to school at the Indiana University School of Music.
I was fortunate enough to see sinead at the Guiness festival in NYC this
past summer, and it was the best concert I have ever seen. Over the summer
I'll do some trades, but I don't know because my stuff is at home.  I have
about 12 taped concerts, videos of Famine (remix), ThankYou for hearing
me, this is to mother you, be still, her 2 sat. night live appearances
(the pope one is edited), her letterman appearance this past june, Fire on
Babylon, Sessions @ W. 54th street, and a few other random items, as well
as all the legal release stuff.  If anyone out there happens to have a
tape of the guiness concert, I'm very interested.  Also, to those of you
that haven't read the Butcher Boy yet, READ IT, IT ROCKS! later   

Dan



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I am originally from Bucks County PA and I now live in St Pete  Florida and I
am praying to my own personal god that lillith comes some where near here next
year. I went to the lollipalooza show in Camden a few weeks after Sinead split
off the tour. 

DJO 

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The opening date of the 1998 Lilith Fair, one of the most
successful concert tours last summer, has been set for June
19 in Portland, Ore. According to Billboard Bulletin, Sinead
O'Connor, Erykah Badu, Natalie Merchant, and Indigo Girls
will be joining founder Sarah McLachlan for that show; the
second stage will feature K's Choice and Tara McLean.

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From: Janet Bigalievna Turarbekova <J.B.Turarbekova@reading.ac.uk>
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then GOOD LUCK to you!!!!!!!!

Peace and Love
**********************************************************************
Zhanet B. Turarbekova

University of Reading                
GSEIS                             " YOU MUST NOT TRY TO BE TOO PURE
tel:(+44118) 0411 525 603          YOU MUST FLY CLOSER TO THE SEA..."
fax:(+440118) 986 63 45                            sinead o'connor
e-mail:J.B.Turarbekova@reading.ac.uk
**********************************************************************


On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, Christiane R. Albuquerque wrote:

> Hi!
> 
>         I'm an economist, and I'm (and live in) from Belo Horizonte,
> Brazil. At the moment, I'm studying to get my Masters degree and I've
> been invited to a selection to become a lecturer at the University...
> please, fingers crossed for me!!!! (That would rise my scholarship in
> 50%, apart from the curriculum!).
> 
> 	Chris
> 
> 
> -- 
> ************************************************************************
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> 		> but time has no mercy
> 		> time won't stand still for you 
> 
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> 
> 
> 


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: Results of where some of ya'll live.  We still have many more out there to
: respond, I'm keeping track so I'll post more later.  Kinda neat huh?
: 
: Andreas - Indonesia
: Ana - California, US
: Bruno - Paris, France
: Jeremy - Atlanta, US
: Bilal - Canada
: Christy - North Carolina, US
: Sophie - France
: Eric - Washington, US
: Sumiko - Illinois, US
: Jen - Canada
: Christian - New York, US
: Tim - North Carolina, US
: Daniel - Germany
: Todd - Philadelphia, PA, US
: Chris - Brazil
: Niels - Europe
: Claudia - San Francisco, US
: Holli - Minneapolis, MN, US
: Joe - St. Paul, MN, US
: Chris - Massachusetts, US
: Ami - Washington, US
-------going twice-------------
DKIANKA - Dublin, Ireland
Oskar - Canada
Dana - Washington, US
Toomas - Europe
Amy - Kentucky, US
Jeffery - New York, US
Dan - New York, US
DJO - Florida, US
Don - North Carolina, US
Janet/Zhanet - England

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in gainesville, georgia, which is 45 minutes north of atlanta

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I'm originally from Long Island, New York.  Went to college in New York. 
Lived in Brooklyn and worked for a major publisher.  

Moved to Atlanta -- where my husband and I MET SINEAD.  Left Atlanta b/c
it's conservative South.

Now live in New York again!

So who wants to know about my meeting Sinead?   Anyone?  Anyone?

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River Jumpers,

         there's a tiny pic of Sinead on page 123 in "Teen People"  "style
watch"      
         section:)

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I'm from Chicago (pizza, brats, beer, football, Al Capone, Mayor Daily and   
DA BULLS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).
Moving soon to Chattanooga, TN (college football, pool, cute college girls,
mountains, fishing and hunting).
Part-time truck driver, stock market dabbler, semi retired at 27, living off
my stock market "winnings."
Had it bad for Sinead since '89.

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In response to Holli's request, I would like to introduce myself.  My name is
Clarke and this is my first time posting to JITR.  I live in Jacksonville,
Forida (USA) and work for the Federal Reserve Bank.  I have been a fan of
Sinead since 1987 and she is my idol.  My favorite song by her, believe it or
not, is Nothing Compares 2 U.   My favorite songs that she has written are
Troy and You Cause as Much Sorrow. My favorite album is IDNWWIHG.  My least
favorite song is Tiny Grief Song.  My least favorite album is AINYG.  I have a
picture of her on my car (it is a sticker that came with 'The Emporer's New
Clothes' box set).  I would like to get another vinyl sticker of her.  If
anyone knows where I might be able to order one, please let me know.  Thanks.
Sorry if I rambled on.  I guess I got a little carried away.

Peace.

Clarke

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Maybe this has been posted already, although i haven't seen it.  I heard
on MTV radio news today that sinead has been confirmed to play on the
next Lillith Fair tour this coming summer.  we shall see if this remains
a definate.
	if so, hope some people bootleg the shows, even if her sets probably
won't be too long.  still worth going.  and by then sinead might be
trying out a couple new songs??

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