From jitr-owner Thu Jan 1 02:54:58 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id CAA19698 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 02:54:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from oznet11.ozemail.com.au (oznet11.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.118]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id CAA19694 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 02:54:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from [203.108.19.193] (slsyd63p17.ozemail.com.au [203.108.19.193]) by oznet11.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA12174 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:54:47 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:54:47 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jitr@postmodern.com From: docj@ozemail.com.au (greg james) Subject: REM doing last day of our acquintence Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi all, Happy new year to you all. I was looking at a REM web site and I saw that they do/did a cover of "last day..." Has anyone heard this? What's it like? And what did it come out on? I don't mind REM and could hear Stipey doing a nice little croon to this tune-- i've been listening to sinead's version..love it when she sing's "i'll talk but you won't listen to me". Thanx for your time, Cheers Greg. Swivel Disc Records Destroying Art since 1994 From jitr-owner Thu Jan 1 07:53:48 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id HAA20218 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 07:53:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from email.csun.edu (csun1.csun.edu [130.166.1.8]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id HAA20214 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 07:53:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from csun.edu (s253n048.csun.edu) by csun1.csun.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA153850012; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 07:53:32 -0800 Message-Id: <34ABBB88.917C3BFA@csun.edu> Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 07:51:42 -0800 From: Ana Ramos Reply-To: amr21801@email.csun.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: greg james Cc: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: REM doing last day of our acquintence References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi Greg, I actually saw the performance you're talking about. It was in May 1996 (don't know the EXACT date) for a VH1 special called WITNESS.... a Peter Gabriel project put together to raise money for human rights awareness. Michael Stipe performed along with Natalie Merchant, Joan Osborne, and others. Maybe it's just 'cause I am quite fond of Michael Stipe but I was really impressed by his take on Sinéad's song. I admit I was SHOCKED when I heard the first line of "Last Day of Our Acquaintance" come out of his mouth!!! I thought, "Oh no..." But he didn't try to change it or anything.... kept it's integrity intact. It seemed heartfelt and simple... no heavy instrumentals--- basically just his voice and a guitar (in the background). He did the song justice, what else can I say??? I'm sure Sinéad was flattered... Happy New Year, Ana. g From jitr-owner Thu Jan 1 16:54:10 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id QAA21267 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 16:54:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.167]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id QAA21255; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 16:54:06 -0800 (PST) From: JenCohn201 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 19:51:44 EST To: elm@cybertours.com, owner-jitr@postmodern.com, jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: wuthering hights Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Wuthering heights was a made for television film that was first broadcast on TBS. I expect she didn't take credit because she wasn't looking for it and because she was still causing a bit of turmoil for some here in the US at the time. It is actually an awesome version of the story with a great cast. I watched it because of the story and boy was I surprised when the first thing I heard was Sinead's voice! However, I didn't care for the wig. On another subject, I had the best luck at a remote record store! I found IDNWWIHG on vinyl and the 12" of Mandinka. I paid $11.20 for both! How lucky am I? Happy New Year All! -Jen From jitr-owner Fri Jan 2 06:40:36 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id GAA24661 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 06:40:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.170]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id GAA24657 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 06:40:33 -0800 (PST) From: TSUNDERDOG Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:39:59 EST To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: jitr-digest V4 #2 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I'm a born again Sinead fan in search of some of the "rare" stuff...most especially "I Am Enough For Myself" with "Black is the color of my true love's hair"... I have a CDr and a can make digital copies of the stuff i have...maybe you have the same. It feels good to be back. Glad i found you guys :) Terry From jitr-owner Fri Jan 2 06:53:12 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id GAA24716 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 06:53:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from t800.digicon-egr.co.uk (t800.digicon-egr.co.uk [193.128.29.253]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id GAA24712 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 06:53:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from crawley_comm.digicon-egr.co.uk by t800.digicon-egr.co.uk (4.1/DIGICON/RELAY/1.01) id AA15422; Fri, 2 Jan 98 14:52:12 GMT Received: by crawley_comm.digicon-egr.co.uk(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 80256580.00516E17 ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 14:49:26 +0000 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: VES From: "Matt Measures" To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Message-Id: <80256580.00512814.00@crawley_comm.digicon-egr.co.uk> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 14:52:36 +0000 Subject: This is the first mail of our acquaintance.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL OF YOU This is my first tentative dip in the river Just want to say that I spent a most excellent New Year's Day afternoon re-stringing my acoustic whilst watching Sinead's 'Year of the Horse' live video - it was a rare and precious moment - a moment of absolute calm in an otherwise hectic life!!!! :-) P.S. - I recommend all Sinead's brother's (Joseph O' Connor) books especially 'Cowboys and Indians' From jitr-owner Fri Jan 2 14:13:01 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id OAA26997 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 14:13:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from postmodern.com (foucault.postmodern.com [198.102.244.52]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id OAA26974; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 14:11:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34AD661D.498BE6C2@postmodern.com> Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 14:12:09 -0800 From: "Michael C. Berch" Reply-To: mcb@postmodern.com Organization: Postmodern Consulting, California USA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babel-list@postmodern.com, jitr@postmodern.com CC: Fiona Webster , eltyger@pipeline.com Subject: Network instability on postmodern.com 1/2/98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Sorry for the short notice, but postmodern.com may be subject to some network instabilities and periods of downtime on Friday 1/2/98, due to network renumbering and adding a new ISP route. This was scheduled for mid-December, then postponed, and then scheduled for next week, but we have a window of opportunity to do it today during the semi-holiday weekend. List service and Web service will be affected but I hope to be up and running by mid to late afternoon. -- Michael C. Berch mcb@postmodern.com From jitr-owner Fri Jan 2 16:45:01 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id QAA00287 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 16:45:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id QAA00280 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 16:44:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from PC_icehouse.worldnet.att.net ([12.68.12.171]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA15376; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 00:44:19 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199801020900.BAA24265@server.postmodern.com> References: Conversation <199801020900.BAA24265@server.postmodern.com> with last message <199801020900.BAA24265@server.postmodern.com> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 To: jitr@postmodern.com, jitr-digest@server.postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "icehouse" Subject: So Far Best Of Date: Fri, 02 Jan 98 22:42:00 PST Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Two things!! I picked up a copy of The Goepel Oak Ep complete with bonus free VHS vide= o. It includes This Is To Mother You and two selection from Year Of The = Horse. Pretty Cool!! I was really surprised!! Second, does anyone know if she will be releasing a So Far compilation = video on VHS and laserdisc (even maybe in Japan)?? Thanks Gordon From jitr-owner Fri Jan 2 20:56:34 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id UAA00879 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 20:56:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from davinci.netaxis.COM (davinci.netaxis.com [198.69.103.4]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id UAA00875 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 20:56:30 -0800 (PST) From: 8041d3SZ4@1blowup.net Received: from 77ZcMQrh7 (jac-fl3-13.ix.netcom.com [204.31.245.109]) by davinci.netaxis.COM (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA13819; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 23:46:45 -0500 (EST) DATE: 02 Jan 98 12:01:38 AM Message-ID: TO: eduacation@children423.net SUBJECT: Give Your Child "One of the Best Children's Videos"" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ The holidays are upon us. 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Johnson Family Productions Madison, WI From jitr-owner Sat Jan 3 13:56:12 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id NAA04380 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:56:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from gold.com.br (gold-2.horizontes.com.br [200.215.160.63]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id NAA04376 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:56:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from default (line0101.horizontes.com.br [200.215.162.110]) by gold.com.br (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA24944; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:59:44 -0200 Message-ID: <34AEC3BB.50F9@horiz.com.br> Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 20:03:23 -0300 From: "Christiane R. Albuquerque" Reply-To: newskria@horiz.com.br X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sinead Mailing list , BADAMS MAILING LIST Subject: lyrics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ HI ALL! Could someone send me again the address of that site in the net to get lyrics? I'd like the ones in the Diana Tribute CD ... THANKS! Chris -- ************************************************************************ >you could wait for your dreams to come true > but time has no mercy > time won't stand still for you (B.Adams) ************************************************************************ http://members.wbs.net/homepages/k/r/i/krikaa.html From jitr-owner Mon Jan 5 04:33:27 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id EAA11537 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 04:33:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from sumh1.reading.ac.uk (sumh1.rdg.ac.uk [134.225.16.4]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id EAA11532 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 04:32:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from suma3.rdg.ac.uk (actually host suma3-e4) by sumh1.rdg.ac.uk with ESMTP; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:32:40 +0000 Received: from localhost by suma3.rdg.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA05415; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:32:37 GMT Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:32:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Janet Bigalievna Turarbekova To: jitr@postmodern.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello everyone, hope you all have a great time, I have two things to say: 1. Have U seen the latest issue of VOX, if not go for it, there is an interview with Miss Sinead (pretty cool) and of course a pictures of her(perfect!), and Hope U can have a december issue of Q mag, there is a really weird picture of her(funny one?!) hope U 'll enjoy it. And the 2 thing concerns to those who are in France-Sorry falks for using a jitr-please could someone help me with info on the french singer ZAZIE-please e-mail me privately. Thank you very much for your attension and a happy new year!!!!!!! From jitr-owner Mon Jan 5 07:50:08 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id HAA11939 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 07:50:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from studserv.uni-leipzig.de (studserv.uni-leipzig.de [139.18.1.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id HAA11933; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 07:49:44 -0800 (PST) From: soz96cno@studserv.uni-leipzig.de Received: from localhost (soz96cno@localhost) by studserv.uni-leipzig.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA12854; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:49:39 +0100 Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:49:38 +0100 (MEZ) To: jitr@postmodern.com cc: jitr-digest@server.postmodern.com Subject: Interview in German Magazin In-Reply-To: <199801040900.BAA07146@server.postmodern.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi there. The latest issue of DIE WOCHE, a weekly German newspaper, includes an interview with Sinead titled "Trauma-Mama". And hey, it's only one page, but it is great. If i have the time, i'll translate it for you jitr-guys. But i am very busy at the moment, so it can take a week or two. If there is any German jitr member: Check it out! The guy who made the interview is called Roger Willemsen. He also hosts a weekly TV-show in German TV. I am afraid i missed a LIVE appearence of Sinead in German TV in December or late November! Does anyone know something about it? Any news about Sinead? Shalom, Daniel. hmm..... of course, a HAPPY NEW YEAR to all of you Sinead freaks all over the world. it's good to know that there are people like you... i don't know if this means something to you, but: God bless you. From jitr-owner Mon Jan 5 09:46:51 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id JAA12219 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:46:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from callisto.uwinnipeg.ca (root@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca [142.132.1.23]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id JAA12215 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:46:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from brana.UWinnipeg.ca (sdi4m16.uwinnipeg.ca [142.132.53.17]) by callisto.uwinnipeg.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26800 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:03:58 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199801051803.MAA26800@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca> From: "Bilal A.Rana" To: Subject: This IS A Rebel Song Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 11:40:36 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ --------- > From: Lydia > To: mcb@postmodern.com > Cc: jitr@postmodern.com > Subject: Re: AGAIN, still about TROY > Date: December 4, 1997 9:37 PM > > Lydia wrote: > sorry if i am taking this too far, but sinead is all about politics--as > everything in the world is. except maybe love? > > Lydia "Except maybe love?" Hmmm. How many others ascribe to this viewpoint? If so, how does it influence your interpretations of Sinead's clearly political song, This IS A Rebel Song. This IS A Rebel Song (cut down version) -------------------- I love you my hard englishman And love me - I'm your woman So why should I not get loving How come you've never said you love me Ah, please talk to me englishman What good will shutting me out get done I've honoured you - hard englishman Now I am calling your heart to my own !!!*#*#*#*Oh let glorious love be done*#*#*#*#*!!! Be truthful - englishman How come you've never said you love me ... The entire song is about love. The song is also about politics. If Lydia's comment bears any truth, can this song be described as Sinead's attempt to somehow de-politicize (make simpler) existing Irish-English political relations. Also, I ask of those more aware of that political scene and closer to it, how do you view Rebel Song? Is it too simplistic? Is it way out in left field? Is it the articulation of popular opinion? Is Sinead "right"? Thanx, Later, Bilal, -------------------------------------------------------------------------- B i l a l A. R a n a http://callisto.uwinnipeg.ca/~brana/sinead.htm brana@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jitr-owner Mon Jan 5 09:47:20 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id JAA12255 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:47:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from callisto.uwinnipeg.ca (root@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca [142.132.1.23]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id JAA12247 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:47:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from brana.UWinnipeg.ca (sdi4m16.uwinnipeg.ca [142.132.53.17]) by callisto.uwinnipeg.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26854 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:04:31 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199801051804.MAA26854@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca> From: "Bilal A.Rana" To: Subject: Gospel Oak, Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 11:42:53 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I LOVE GOSPEL OAK ! ! ! I LOVE SINEAD O'CONNOR ! From jitr-owner Mon Jan 5 09:48:00 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id JAA12287 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:48:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from honor.greatcircle.com (honor.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.44]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id JAA12283 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:47:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from callisto.uwinnipeg.ca (callisto.uwinnipeg.ca [142.132.1.23]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-971021-1) with ESMTP id JAA25255 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:47:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from brana.UWinnipeg.ca (sdi4m16.uwinnipeg.ca [142.132.53.17]) by callisto.uwinnipeg.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26723 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:03:18 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199801051803.MAA26723@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca> From: "Bilal A.Rana" To: Subject: Rebel Song single, where can I find it? Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 11:10:51 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hullo jitr, Have any of the Canadian fans had any luck tracking down the Rebel Song cd single? I haven't been able to yet. Out. Bilal --------------------------------------------------------------------- http://callisto.uwinnipeg.ca/~brana/sinead.htm brana@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca -------------------------------------------------------------------- From jitr-owner Mon Jan 5 10:19:01 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA12407 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:19:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.club-internet.fr (root@mail.club-internet.fr [194.158.96.21]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id KAA12403 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:18:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from default (ppp-129-65.metz.club-internet.fr [195.36.129.65]) by mail.club-internet.fr (8.8.8/MGC-970630-No_Relay) with SMTP id TAA00742; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 19:17:55 +0100 (MET) From: "ANTOINE Eric" To: "Bilal A.Rana" , Subject: Re: Gospel Oak, Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 19:17:14 +0100 Message-ID: <01bd1a06$25e91480$418124c3@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ definitly, but you're not alone eantoine@mail.dotcom.fr http://www.mygale.org/06/eantoine -----Message d'origine----- De : Bilal A.Rana Ā : jitr@postmodern.com Date : lundi 5 janvier 1998 19:01 Objet : Gospel Oak, >I LOVE GOSPEL OAK ! ! ! > >I LOVE SINEAD O'CONNOR ! > > From jitr-owner Mon Jan 5 19:26:42 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id TAA13728 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 19:26:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.minn.net (root@mail.minn.net [208.16.88.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id TAA13724 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 19:26:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from h1165.lawson.com (dialup-tc3-8.minn.net [208.16.84.204]) by mail.minn.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21794; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:26:27 -0600 Message-Id: <199801060326.VAA21794@mail.minn.net> From: "Holli Marshall" To: Cc: "Jitr" Subject: Re: lyrics Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:17:43 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello. It's called "The International Lyrics Server" http://www.lyrics.ch/ Your welcome :o) Holli \\\|/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) ---oOOo-(_)-oOOo-------------------------------------- - Holli Marshall's "Triumph Over Tragedy" Mint Green Ribbon Campaign for the Awareness of Abuse Email: hmm@minn.net Website: http://www1.minn.net/~hmm ------------Oooo-------------------------------------- oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) ---------- : From: Christiane R. Albuquerque : To: Sinead Mailing list ; BADAMS MAILING LIST : Subject: lyrics : Date: Saturday, January 03, 1998 5:03 PM : : HI ALL! : : Could someone send me again the address of that site in the net to get : lyrics? I'd like the ones in the Diana Tribute CD ... : : THANKS! : Chris : -- : ************************************************************************ : >you could wait for your dreams to come true : > but time has no mercy : > time won't stand still for you : : (B.Adams) : ************************************************************************ : http://members.wbs.net/homepages/k/r/i/krikaa.html From jitr-owner Mon Jan 5 20:00:21 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id UAA13826 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:00:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.176]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id UAA13822 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:00:18 -0800 (PST) From: SNORIT Message-ID: <8c9054a4.34b1a2f5@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 22:20:15 EST To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: This IS A Rebel Song Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ In a message dated 98-01-05 12:49:49 EST, brana@callisto.UWinnipeg.ca writes: << Also, I ask of those more aware of that political scene and closer to it, how do you view Rebel Song? Is it too simplistic? Is it way out in left field? Is it the articulation of popular opinion? Is Sinead "right"? >> i understand the situation of england and ireland and this does seem a very simplistic explaination of the situation, but i think it is supposed to be seen as one persons persepective upon a encompassing problem. as for the political aspect of what lydia wrote, being from ireland politics is always staring you in the face. you can see this in most of the literature, music, art, etc. that comes from ireland. me From jitr-owner Tue Jan 6 03:29:06 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id DAA16341 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 03:29:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from sumh1.reading.ac.uk (sumh1.rdg.ac.uk [134.225.16.4]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id DAA16337 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 03:29:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from suma3.rdg.ac.uk (actually host suma3-e4) by sumh1.rdg.ac.uk with ESMTP; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 11:28:33 +0000 Received: from localhost by suma3.rdg.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA08618; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 11:28:31 GMT Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 11:28:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Janet Bigalievna Turarbekova To: "Bilal A.Rana" cc: jitr Subject: Re: This IS A Rebel Song In-Reply-To: <199801051803.MAA26800@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi all, I read somewhere, even Sinead think that it's not pure love or political song, or maybe I misunderstood something, but I also think that we can't separate or say definitly the rebel song is all about politics or love, well to those who is very much in the situation between UK and Ireland this song is about pure LOVE and to those who are in politics they are prefer to think that it's about nothing else then politics. On the other hand it's like a clishe for miss Sinead, everybody just expecting from her to hear the stuff like this (I mean political) and them as far as any song will be released it startng to discuss wether it a political or not. For me mostly doesn't metter I love everything she doing. And I can say why, 'cos she just trying to express herself, and that is the point. Thanks for your attension falks. Love and peace Janet On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Bilal A.Rana wrote: > --------- > > From: Lydia > > To: mcb@postmodern.com > > Cc: jitr@postmodern.com > > Subject: Re: AGAIN, still about TROY > > Date: December 4, 1997 9:37 PM > > > > Lydia wrote: > > > sorry if i am taking this too far, but sinead is all about politics--as > > everything in the world is. except maybe love? > > > > Lydia > > > "Except maybe love?" Hmmm. How many others ascribe to this viewpoint? If > so, how does it influence your interpretations of Sinead's clearly > political song, This IS A Rebel Song. > > This IS A Rebel Song (cut down version) > -------------------- > > I love you my hard englishman > > And love me - I'm your woman > > So why should I not get loving > > How come you've never said you love me > > Ah, please talk to me englishman > > What good will shutting me out get done > > I've honoured you - hard englishman > > Now I am calling your heart to my own > > !!!*#*#*#*Oh let glorious love be done*#*#*#*#*!!! > > Be truthful - englishman > > How come you've never said you love me > ... > > The entire song is about love. The song is also about politics. > If Lydia's comment bears any truth, can this song be described as > Sinead's attempt to somehow de-politicize (make simpler) existing > Irish-English political relations. > > Also, I ask of those more aware of that political scene and closer to it, > how do you view Rebel Song? > Is it too simplistic? Is it way out in left field? Is it the articulation > of popular opinion? Is Sinead "right"? > > Thanx, > Later, > > Bilal, > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > B i l a l A. R a n a > http://callisto.uwinnipeg.ca/~brana/sinead.htm > brana@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From jitr-owner Tue Jan 6 06:22:26 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id GAA16520 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:22:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from netmgr.cso.niu.edu (netmgr.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.11]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id GAA16516 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:22:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from WPO.CSO.NIU.EDU (netops.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.39]) by netmgr.cso.niu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA01815 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 08:22:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from Domain1-Message_Server by WPO.CSO.NIU.EDU with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 06 Jan 1998 08:22:00 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 08:21:27 -0600 From: Sumiko Keay To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: This IS A Rebel Song -Reply Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I think that using the metaphor of a family/love relationship for the relationship between Ireland and England is a good one because what could be more complicated than the feelings we have for family -- even or perhaps especially where things have gone horribly wrong! Perhaps we just think that this type of relationship is easy to understand because we all have them. Anyway, she (Sinead) makes things (purposefully) more tangled up by announcing it as a LOVE song in concert! From jitr-owner Tue Jan 6 07:19:32 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id HAA16618 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:19:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from web02.nyc (web02.nyc.globecomm.net [207.51.48.39]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id HAA16614 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:19:29 -0800 (PST) From: jayelle@lycosemail.com Received: (from root@localhost) by web02.nyc (8.8.8/8.8.0) id KAA17769; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:19:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:19:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199801061519.KAA17769@web02.nyc> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Honneur and merry meet, y'all! Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ My name is Jayelle Lukash. I'm 23, Bisexual, Floridian, and have had a CRUSH on Sinead O'Connor since I was thirteen. (I have a shrine to her--term used in irony--on my Website. The address for the Jayelle's Diversions mainpage is http://www.angelfire.com/fl/diversions, and the Sinead stuff--actually, it's more about my adolescence than Sinead--is at http://www.angelfire.com/fl/diversions/sinead.html) I practice Witchcraft and Vodoun, I'm a hardcore Libertarian, and I'm a writer-disguised-as-a-secretary. I feel a little silly subscribing to a mailing list devoted to a rock star, even one I've been a fan of and who has been an influence on me for ten years. Apparently Sinead's made an impact on quite a few people. I personally believe that she inspired me to keep writing and go beyond the Fundamentalist Christianity I was raised into. I just wondered what goes on here. So, who all's out there? At least I know everyone here has good taste in music! I also like the Wu-Tang Clan, Nirvana, Lil' Kim, Local H, OutKast, Hurricane G, and countless others. In perfect love and graveyard dust! --Jayelle -------------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email at http://www.lycosemail.com From jitr-owner Tue Jan 6 18:00:27 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id SAA17958 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:00:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from honor.greatcircle.com (honor.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.44]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id SAA17953 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:00:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from outsider.Aureal.com ([204.30.229.9]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-971021-1) with SMTP id OAA00177 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:46:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aureal.com by outsider.Aureal.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m0xph7K-000FKhC; Tue, 6 Jan 98 14:04 PST Received: from mvimail.aureal.com by Aureal.com (Aureal Semiconductor) with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07400; Tue, 6 Jan 98 14:05:06 -0800 (Send to firstname_lastname@Aureal.com) Received: by MVIMAIL.Aureal.COM with Microsoft Mail id <34B2BA1C@MVIMAIL.Aureal.COM>; Tue, 06 Jan 98 15:11:24 PST From: Skip McIlvaine To: "'jitr@server.postmodern.com'" Subject: Performances on Video Date: Tue, 06 Jan 98 10:58:00 PST Message-Id: <34B2BA1C@MVIMAIL.Aureal.COM> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ As a newbie to the list I apologize if this is an obnoxious request that is asked over and over (I couldn't find the FAQ). I caught the tail end of the Sessions performance of Sinead's. I would very much like to have a copy of my own. Does anyone know if PBS has made this available, or if there are other channels through which I could obtain a copy? And while on the topic, are there other performances available (commercial or other)? I am already on the hunt for "The Value of Ignorance" and "The Year of the Horse." Thank you kind people; any help is appreciated. Skip From jitr-owner Tue Jan 6 18:00:48 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id SAA18014 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:00:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from honor.greatcircle.com (honor.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.44]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id SAA18005; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:00:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.170]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-971021-1) with ESMTP id PAA05911; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:11:54 -0800 (PST) From: RedAxe66 Message-ID: <8290cd4a.34b2b9f1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:10:39 EST To: jitr@postmodern.com, jitr-digest@server.postmodern.com Subject: Ta/ ceisteanna agam! an bfhuill a fhios agaibh... ? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ GREETINGS! could any list members answer me these Q's: what is the meaning / symbolism of the six0sided star with the dot , seen on some S0'C albums? does Sine/ad speak/sing irish gaelic languge fluently? i recall reading sometime ago she was now a college student studying irish (language). Thanks, GallowglassPathologySaortharlann Deaths Head MC Club ~ Blaosc Mairbh Abu/! ~ 1728hrs 6thJanuary98 From jitr-owner Tue Jan 6 18:04:19 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id SAA18399 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:04:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from honor.greatcircle.com (honor.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.44]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id SAA18394 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:04:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from hTSO01.Cin.IX.net (hTSO01.Cin.IX.Net [208.16.130.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-971021-1) with ESMTP id KAA07433 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:22:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rebghw@localhost) by hTSO01.Cin.IX.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA04519 for jitr@postmodern.com; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 13:21:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 13:21:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerry H. Walter" Message-Id: <199801061821.NAA04519@hTSO01.Cin.IX.net> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Sinead Tapes Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I received the package of Sinead tapes from Eduard this weekend. The tapes, together with Eduard's careful annotations of the selections, are simply great! Many of us have lamented the fact that Sinead's releases are too few and far between. What Eduard's tapes have shown us is that there has been an *astonishing* amount of Sinead music released over the past few years. The music on the tapes is probably enough to fill 10 CD's. We are all grateful to Eduard for putting it all together for us. Gerry Walter From jitr-owner Tue Jan 6 20:02:58 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id UAA18910 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 20:02:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.175]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id UAA18906 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 20:02:54 -0800 (PST) From: Oonasoul Message-ID: <3aeb1241.34b2fd97@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 22:59:17 EST To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: SINEAD Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ hi, does anyone on jitr know Sinead's c/o management address? I'd really appreciate it! Th ank you! -Erin From jitr-owner Wed Jan 7 00:08:27 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id AAA21140 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 00:08:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ucsf.edu (mail.ucsf.EDU [128.218.95.23]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id AAA21136 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 00:08:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [36.173.0.163] (tip-mp9-ncs-4.Stanford.EDU [36.173.0.163]) by mail.ucsf.edu (8.8.7/CDR8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA18894 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 00:07:48 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: ciaran@itsa.ucsf.edu (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 00:11:45 -0700 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: ciaran@itsa.ucsf.edu (fontainebleau) Subject: Personal to Mars-L Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi Mars-L No response from your email server. Please get in touch regarding your end of the trade for the Warfield show I sent a couple of months ago. Cheers fontainebleau From jitr-owner Wed Jan 7 04:53:14 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id EAA21641 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:53:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.chicago.il.ameritech.net (mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net [206.141.192.243]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id EAA21637 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:53:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ameritech.net (dyn-max4-129.chicago.il.ameritech.net [206.141.209.129]) by mailhost.chicago.il.ameritech.net (8.8.3/8.8.3-AIMS) with ESMTP id GAA05664 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 06:53:07 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <34B37A5B.A733FF63@ameritech.net> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 06:51:39 -0600 From: Tom Mohr Reply-To: tmohr@ameritech.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-AIT (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Sinead and Chieftains on soundtrack cd References: <199801070900.BAA21318@server.postmodern.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ This is from www.allstarmag.com: Elvis Costello, Sinead O'Connor, & Van Morrison Contribute To The Chieftains' Long Journey Home Elvis Costello, Van Morrison, and Sinead O'Connor, among others, have once again contributed to an album by five-time Grammy Award- winners the Chieftains. They appear on the Irish mainstay's new album, The Irish in America: Long Journey Home, due Jan. 13 on Unisphere/BMG Classics. The album, which features traditional and original Irish music that celebrates the contributions to Irish culture in America, is also the soundtrack to the Disney/PBS mini- series of the same name. The mini- series airs Jan. 26 with a Buena Vista home video due Jan. 27. This is the first release for Unisphere, which was co-created by Chieftains leader Paddy Maloney. Highlights of the album include Costello on the album's title track and anthem to the movie; Morrison singing "Shenandoah; and O'Connor lending her vocal talents to "Skibbereen." Also featured on the album are Eileen Ivers and Vince Gill. On past records, the group has recorded with Sting, Marianne Faithfull, Jackson Browne, Ricki Lee Jones, Willie Nelson, the Rolling Stones, Ricky Skaggs, and Emmylou Harris, among countless others. From jitr-owner Wed Jan 7 10:20:22 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA22663 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.177]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id KAA22659 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:20:19 -0800 (PST) From: XFlePsycho Message-ID: <69f39445.34b3c6af@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 13:17:17 EST To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: A quote from Sinead concerning the Star of David she puts on her albums Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Here is quote from an interview I found in Marcel Bobbinnk's "reading stuff" on Sinead. Sinead is asked about the Star of David she wears & puts on her albums now, & she answers " The two crossed triangles represent the union of masculinity & femininity. The dot symbolizes the presence of God & his feminine nature. If the star does not have the dot, it symbolizes chaos. In ancient times, the Jews used to draw it with a dot. But they renounced it. It's obvious they preferred chaos. " This quote is from an interview in the Spanish magazine"El Pais". :) Shalom -- Jenni From jitr-owner Wed Jan 7 16:07:39 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id QAA24218 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:07:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.169]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id QAA24212; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:07:34 -0800 (PST) From: RedAxe66 Message-ID: <3ef72f2a.34b414ed@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 18:51:08 EST To: jitr@postmodern.com, jitr-digest@server.postmodern.com Subject: Ta/ ceisteanna agam fo/s. . . Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ << Subject: Ta/ ceisteanna agam! an bfhuill a fhios agaibh... ? GREETINGS! could any list members answer me these Q's: what is the meaning / symbolism of the six0sided star with the dot , seen on some S0'C albums? does Sine/ad speak/sing irish gaelic languge fluently? i recall reading sometime ago she was now a college student studying irish (language). >> GallowglassPathologySaortharlann Deaths Head MC Club ~ Blaosc Mairbh Abu/! ~ 1843hrs 7thJanuary98 From jitr-owner Wed Jan 7 16:07:50 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id QAA24237 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:07:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.167]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id QAA24231; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:07:46 -0800 (PST) From: RedAxe66 Message-ID: <58a1b22a.34b414ed@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 18:51:07 EST To: jitr@postmodern.com, jitr-digest@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: jitr-digest V4 #6 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ In a message dated 98-01-07 04:07:36 EST, owner-jitr-digest@postmodern.com writes: << > The entire song is about love. The song is also about politics. >> "ta/ fearg orm. Ach ta/ mo chroi lan Gra , ni/l se/ lan fuath!" ("i am angry, but my heart is full of love , not hate.") GallowglassPathologySaortharlann Deaths Head MC Club ~ Blaosc Mairbh Abu/! ~ 1842hrs 7thJanuary98 From jitr-owner Wed Jan 7 16:48:16 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id QAA24516 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:48:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lehtori.cc.tut.fi (root@lehtori.cc.tut.fi [130.230.10.20]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id QAA24512 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:48:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from 1 (kaimas16.cc.tut.fi [130.230.23.185]) by lehtori.cc.tut.fi (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA12835; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 02:48:00 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <34B4239D.4E0E@lehtori.cc.tut.fi> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 02:53:49 +0200 From: Ossi Kupila X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Jayelle References: <199801070900.BAA21318@server.postmodern.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ >So, who all's out there? At least I know everyone here has good taste in music! I also like the Wu-Tang Clan, Nirvana, Lil' Kim, Local H, OutKast, Hurricane G, and countless others. Hi all freaks! :) Jayelle , thanks for your life story! it was good and interesting. I really appreciate you who have courage to express your selves despite of what like you are. I have been wondering what does we Sinead freaks have in common? Many of us are lesbians or gays, (I hope itīs not only becouse she once had a bald head). But still i think we are quite diverse group of people. There must be something similar in us. Our love for Sinead and her music is stronger than fans of other artists, in general. Atleast I am hooked on her like never before to anyone else. That happened a year ago when i bought IDNWWIHG as a christmas present for my self. (Somebody wrote how the artistīs first album that you buy sounds the best, not in my case; TLTC and UM are equally the best.) Back to topic... Why we,who sees Sinead as a "goddess" are so scarce? We must be special in some way, maybe we have somekind of gift to understand her music what others doesnīt have. Itīs nice to think it that way. Or is this thing i have just a normal love,except itīs object is a star who I see/imagine to be very close to me. Shit ,what am I writing!! I want so much to say something but I CAN`T. Sorry jitr. That is my problem and nature, i canīt express my self. Sinead helps me a lot on it. What else should I be? all apologies What else should I write? all apologies What else sholud I say? everyone is gay ------------------------------------------------------ I just canīt find The year of the horse video from anywhere, can anyone help? In PAL-format please. From jitr-owner Wed Jan 7 16:48:47 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id QAA24559 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:48:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.170]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id QAA24555 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:48:42 -0800 (PST) From: SNORIT Message-ID: <2e3b77c5.34b42077@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 19:40:21 EST To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: thank you eduard Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ sorry i ever doubted you man. these tapes are great i got all 6 today. money well spent. this summer was the first time i saw her live and these tapes remind me why my mind was swimming after both shows. next time she tours i am definetly going to make it to alot more shows. todd From jitr-owner Wed Jan 7 16:52:39 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id QAA24607 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:52:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.174]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id QAA24603 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:52:37 -0800 (PST) From: SNORIT Message-ID: <79eac946.34b42104@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 19:42:43 EST To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: sinead on titanic soundtrack? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ i've had two groups of friends who said that they thought sinead sang a song on the titanic soundtrack. i haven't seen the movie and every time i go to the record store they are sold out of the soundtrack. i figured that if she had sung on the soundtrack we would have heard about it in here. just a question. and maybe someone could tell me who these people are mistaking for our lovely sinead. todd From jitr-owner Wed Jan 7 19:05:39 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id TAA24855 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 19:05:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunflowr.usd.edu (sunflowr.usd.edu [192.55.228.42]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id TAA24851 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 19:05:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from sundance.usd.edu (jul001.julianad.usd.edu [192.236.62.1]) by sunflowr.usd.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA23986; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:01:41 -0600 Message-ID: <34B44209.8CDA775F@sundance.usd.edu> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 21:03:37 -0600 From: Jeff Russell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ossi Kupila CC: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Jayelle References: <199801070900.BAA21318@server.postmodern.com> <34B4239D.4E0E@lehtori.cc.tut.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Wow, slow down. I think you need to relax. Sure, Sinead can sing, and she is a very wonderful person, but don't idolize her as your "Goddess". She does have a remarkable talent with singing and writing, but you need to be able to enjoy it, not obsess over it. Ossi Kupila wrote: > >So, who all's out there? At least I know everyone here has good taste in music! > I also like the Wu-Tang Clan, Nirvana, Lil' Kim, Local H, OutKast, Hurricane G, > and countless others. > > Hi all freaks! :) > > Jayelle , thanks for your life story! it was good and interesting. I > really appreciate you who have courage to express your selves despite > of what like you are. > I have been wondering what does we Sinead freaks have in common? > Many of us are lesbians or gays, (I hope itīs not only becouse she once > had a bald head). But still i think we are quite diverse group of people. > There must be something similar in us. Our love for Sinead and her music > is stronger than fans of other artists, in general. Atleast I am hooked > on her like never before to anyone else. That happened a year ago when i > bought IDNWWIHG as a christmas present for my self. (Somebody wrote how > the artistīs first album that you buy sounds the best, not in my case; > TLTC and UM are equally the best.) > Back to topic... Why we,who sees Sinead as a "goddess" are so scarce? > We must be special in some way, maybe we have somekind of gift to > understand her music what others doesnīt have. Itīs nice to think it that way. > Or is this thing i have just a normal love,except itīs object is a star who > I see/imagine to be very close to me. > Shit ,what am I writing!! I want so much to say something but I CAN`T. > Sorry jitr. That is my problem and nature, i canīt express my self. > Sinead helps me a lot on it. > > What else should I be? all apologies > What else should I write? all apologies > What else sholud I say? everyone is gay > > ------------------------------------------------------ > I just canīt find The year of the horse video from anywhere, can anyone help? > In PAL-format please. From jitr-owner Thu Jan 8 00:30:14 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id AAA27159 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 00:30:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id AAA27147 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 00:30:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from eduardve ([195.121.24.5]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with SMTP id AAB22607 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:29:34 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980108092146.00695314@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: anna@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 09:21:46 +0100 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: anna Subject: Silent night cd single Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi all. I have a spare copy of the extremely rare to find cd-single silent night with as second track Irish ways and Irish laws. Because of it's rarity it's a bit expensive ($25). If interested, please mail me at anna@wxs.nl Eduard From jitr-owner Thu Jan 8 00:30:15 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id AAA27162 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 00:30:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id AAA27148 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 00:30:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from eduardve ([195.121.24.5]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with SMTP id AAC22607 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:29:36 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980108092313.00695790@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: anna@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 09:23:13 +0100 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: anna Subject: About the 3 babies cd single Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Last week i make a notice here that i had the three babies cd single for sale. I got 18 replies and only had one cd single. Sorry that i did not let hear from myself, but this is a general sorry to everybody except to the lucky one who got the cd single. Eduard From jitr-owner Thu Jan 8 00:30:17 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id AAA27173 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 00:30:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id AAA27153 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 00:30:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from eduardve ([195.121.24.5]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with SMTP id AAD22607 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:29:38 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980108092538.006a7230@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: anna@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 09:25:38 +0100 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: anna Subject: New Sinead & Chieftains duet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ According to my record store, January 12 will be released the new chieftains cd called 'the long journey home' and it will feature Sinead. At present i o not know more. There will also be a single release the 12th (also called the long journey home) but i do not know if that's the song featured Sinead. Eduard (from the Netherlands) From jitr-owner Thu Jan 8 03:12:09 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id DAA27692 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 03:12:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from studserv.uni-leipzig.de (studserv.uni-leipzig.de [139.18.1.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id DAA27686; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 03:12:03 -0800 (PST) From: soz96cno@studserv.uni-leipzig.de Received: from localhost (soz96cno@localhost) by studserv.uni-leipzig.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA14382; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:11:55 +0100 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:11:55 +0100 (MEZ) Reply-To: soz96cno@studserv.uni-leipzig.de To: jitr@postmodern.com cc: jitr-digest@server.postmodern.com Subject: "Trauma-Mama" The Interview In-Reply-To: <199801080900.BAA27371@server.postmodern.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi jitr. Well, it's done: i tried to translate the interview i mentioned a few days ago. Please 'forgive' me - probably, there are some incorrect translations, but i did my best. i hope you enjoy it a bit. ************************************************************************* Sinead O'Connor: Healed, hair-dryed and better than ever... TRAUMA-MAMA New haircut, new life: S. O'C. speaks about psycho therapy, abuse, and the fun to be a mother... ************************************************************************** Q: Where have you been? S. O'C.: It just have been two years since my last record "Universal Mother" was released. II always need so much time. Why do people think I would have dismissed myself from the business? No. I got a baby. Q: In one word: You've been a happy mother all the time? A: ....and a tired one. Q: Have you missed the applause, the microphones, cameras, articles...? A: I haven't missed all that. I hate cameras. I missed singing. I learn a lot about myself by singing. Back then, it was the time to do something for my own soul. You may not give up yourself or your children for an audience. Q: So your absence from the pop-business had been a healing for you? A: Yes, exactly. And my music is the documentary of my healing process. Q: What has delivered you? A: Psychotherapy and my children. I grew up in an extreme and cruel situation of child abuse. That's why I went to a psychologist who is specialized in things like that. Q: But why so late? A: You're never ready until you are ready. I was ready with 28... Q: When you look at yourself in the old videos, bald-headed, do you see a woman filled with pain, unable to deal with her abuse? A: Yes, unsurprisingly. I am a human being that jumped out of the background of abuse and violence just now. I was hurt, so full of anger! Q: So why did you dedicate your first record to your mother, nevertheless? A: She had to do it to overcome her life in a way. Moreover, she was my mother and so I loved her. I love her still, and all the pain she gave me won't change this. Q: You forgave her? A: Oh yes. I feel mercy for her. She was a very, very sick woman. It's easy to forgive, but I had to learn to let go. When I got older, i was able to. I spent a huge part of the past 3 years to this process. Q: Are you a real good mother? A: Oh yes, i hope so. Well, i am working hard to be one. Because I want to be one, absolutely. From the beginning, i tried to be a better mother than my own one was. It'S not so difficult, probably. But yes, I am a very loving mother. Q: This seems to be a key-word for you: "mother"... A: This topic designates my whole life. Q: The title of your latest release "Gospel Oak" means the place where your psychatrist lives. A: Yes, but the oak is a symbol for the worship of God as a mother, and the songs are hymns as well as love songs or Irish tunes. They include my imagination about how God may talk to me or other people, I mean God as a mother.... Q: Do you expect anyone to understand these ideas? A: Emmmmmmm.... I believe music works more unconcious, not only through words. From that point of view, the so-called understanding means not much to me. Q: In 1990, you refused to take the Grammy. Concerning your opinion about the music business, it was a logical decision. But it nearly crashed your career. Would a man have been judged the same way you were? A: Everyone, even men, had got the same problems. Look at Liam Gallagher and Oasis! Everybody who represents youth is hidden by the newspapers and called to be stupid. Q: So what is your consequence: to shut up? A: No, no! You don't need to shut up, you only have to protect yourself. You have to be careful because you you're not allowed to carry too many feelings with you. But if you want to be a healer, you have to go out in the world, and the world is a dangerous place. Q: Have you learned how to protect yourself? A: Somewhat. Years ago, I was much too young to manage all the attention. Now I have two children to feed, and I am not married to one of the fathers. I am the one who has to make the money. This motivates me. Q: But this is not the reason for recording an album that sounds like a private confession. A: Oh no, but I want to transport the 'healing power' of music. Well, music can't change the world, but both music and religion can lay their arms around people. Q: Was it necessary to re-learn singing? A: In many ways, yes. On the first two records, my voice may sound strong and very emotional, but by using such techniques, you cannot build a carrer, you ruin yourself. Moreover, i was very ill and i was only able to whisper. I had no self respect anymore, my 'ghosts of life' dissapeared. Q: Now, you have to stand the music industry again, but the industry has not changed at all. A: But I did so. Now I know who I am before people well me who i am. Nevertheless, i admire the rage i definetly had back then, even if this rage was kind of scaring to me or other people. Moreover, there weren't so many angry young women with guitars yet. I was no Punk, and unfortunately, my rage was no fake. Q: You've been authentic! A: Yes, but it was extremely painful to be Sinead O'Connor... Q: Did you re-define "love" for yourself? A: I revealed love! I did not know that love exists at all! Q: You never sounded like not knowing what love is. A: You can always interprete a record the way you want to. It sounds absurd to me that someone can listen to these early records whithout realizing how disconcerted I was. Q: You sounded lonesome. A: I was lost. Furthermore, I lived on the male side of my personality. But then I got a daughter and she brought the colour pink in my house. All that made my female side appear. Q: Do you recognize your mother by looking at your daughter? A: She looks very similar to her. Q: What effect does this have on you? A: A wonderful effect: There are people who believe that the dead are reborn within their own family. I like that thought: By loving my daughter i get closer to my mother's soul. Q: You sound like you would be a brilliant grandmother some day. A: Oh, I can't wait! I'm too young yet, but i am a grandma by heart! Q: What remained the same between the angry bald-headed singer and the gandmother by heart that you are now? A: My voice. Yes. My singing. Interview by Roger Willemsen. Any copyrights by DIE WOCHE.... *************************************************************************** Pffffffff.... that's all. I hope you enjoyed it. Once again: If some phrases sound a bit strange to you, please don't mind. It's neither your nor Sinead's fault! It is a bit strange: the interview was done in English, but i had to re-translate the German version. Oh, our world is quite funny, heh? :-) Tell me what you think about the interview. Shalom, Daniel ******************************** FEEL FREE TO E-MAIL ME: soz96cno@studserv.uni-leipzig.de ******************************** IF YOU WANT TO, GO TO: http://www.home.pages.de/~smh ******************************** From jitr-owner Thu Jan 8 05:03:32 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id FAA27857 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 05:03:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id FAA27852 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 05:02:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm3-33.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.221.226]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA15571 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:02:06 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980108123234.006c3b48@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 12:32:34 +0100 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Mars-L Subject: An answer..... In-Reply-To: <199712060900.BAA24913@server.postmodern.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Lemme start with wishing everyone the best for 1998. I hope Sinead will be releasing as much as she did last year and also tour as she did. But Sinead; please release all the songs together on ONE album and not all songs seperately on all kind of different singles and albums of other artists, you've cost me 100s of $$$ last year, though it all could have been placed on 2 or 3 full albums in total for about just $60..... Okay.....I'll keep on dreaming. Yep, I'm back finally. Needed some "internet-rest". The homepage will be updated soon, I will start updating the discography and the newspages, but don't expect them to be updated within some days, I'm 3 months behind reading the JITR, the only thing I did was buy all the new releases..... >Charlie Baltimore wrote: >> Yeah, I knew she didn't write "Make me a Channel," but I wondered if she >> wrote a song for the occasion at all. I thought I remembered=20 hearing >> that, but I may have been misinformed. Funny this question (and also a little frustrating no-one knew the answer for over a month), if you would have read the Sinead news-pages you would have known the answer already since september 18th !!!! Here is the news as written on my homepage ! September 18th 1997 Diana - Mother Of Us All (handed by; P=E4ivi who found the next thing on a U2 page) Sinead has written a song about Diana, Princess of Wales. The Irish singer sang the song september 8th in tribute to Diana during a concert in Dublin. The show was the first of six concerts concerts taking place in the Point Theatre in Dublin under the Gael Force Banner. During the concert she said she "started the song in the past few days and completed it yesterday morning." In the song she refers to Diana as 'The mother of us all.' The show was recorded: supposedly to be shown on T.V. in the U.S. If there is someone who has more info or even has a recording PLEASE LET ME KNOW !!!! BTW; Don't forget; the NEW Chieftains album will be released coming week(s) and it will include a song containing Sinead (backing??) vocals. --------- M A R S - L ------------------------------------------------- Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor Page easy adress - http://come.to/sinead Sinead Full Adress - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead.htm - FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE -------------- From jitr-owner Thu Jan 8 06:58:51 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id GAA28007 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 06:58:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from is4.nyu.edu (IS4.NYU.EDU [128.122.253.137]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id GAA28000 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 06:58:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by is4.nyu.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/26Mar96-0600PM) id AA16334; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:58:46 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:58:45 -0500 (EST) From: Charlie Baltimore To: jitr@postmodern.com Cc: jitr-digest@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: Titanic In-Reply-To: <199801080900.BAA27371@server.postmodern.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Titanic is a kick-ass movie and you should see it. There is, however, but one vocalist on the soundtrack, and whoever the bastard is that confused SINEAD O'CONNOR with CELINE DION is just aching for execution. :) Kevin "I thought I tasted of too many cigarettes, But you tasted of wine" From jitr-owner Thu Jan 8 07:27:35 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id HAA28122 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 07:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from satie.u-bourgogne.fr (satie.u-bourgogne.fr [192.134.59.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id HAA28118 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 07:27:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [193.52.250.226] (termite.u-bourgogne.fr [193.52.250.226]) by satie.u-bourgogne.fr (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id QAA107502 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 16:27:09 +0100 (NFT) Message-Id: <199801081527.QAA107502@satie.u-bourgogne.fr> X-Sender: csophie@satie.u-bourgogne.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora F1.4.2 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 16:28:03 +0000 To: jitr@server.postmodern.com From: Sophie.Connetable@u-bourgogne.fr (Sophie Connetable) Subject: Thank you Kevin Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I'm laughing to much to add anything to this message..... i agree :o) :o))))) >Titanic is a kick-ass movie and you should see it. There is, however, but >one vocalist on the soundtrack, and whoever the bastard is that confused >SINEAD O'CONNOR with CELINE DION is just aching for execution. :) > >Kevin From jitr-owner Thu Jan 8 08:01:57 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id IAA28313 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:01:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcrcr6.med.nyu.edu (SYSTEM@mcrcr6.med.nyu.edu [128.122.244.5]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id IAA28309 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:01:53 -0800 (PST) From: Christian.Petrulio@mcems.med.nyu.edu Received: from ccmail.med.nyu.edu by MCRCR6.MED.NYU.EDU (PMDF V5.1-10 #24941) id <01IS4RA4BECG8WZ22T@MCRCR6.MED.NYU.EDU> for jitr@postmodern.com; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:01:44 EDT Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 10:21 -0400 (EDT) To: bobbink@telebyte.nl, jitr@postmodern.com Message-id: <01IS4RARTMLS8WZ22T@MCRCR6.MED.NYU.EDU> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello everyone and happy new year. I have a few tiny bits of Sinead trivia. My roommate was watching MTV's The Real World and they played This Is To Mother You as part of the background music. There is a bar in New York called Boiler Room, and one of the bar tenders there has So Far... and often turns the juke box off and the stereo up and plays at least 3 songs from it. Last time I was there everyone got really into it. Finally, while watching a show on MTV about what to look forward to in '98, they interviewed all these pedestrians and asked them who they would like to see come out with something in the new year, and one guy said very emphatically, "Sinead O'Connor". Christian From jitr-owner Thu Jan 8 08:40:35 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id IAA28407 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:40:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from lehtori.cc.tut.fi (root@lehtori.cc.tut.fi [130.230.10.20]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id IAA28403 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:40:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from b133c.mtalo.ton.tut.fi (b133c.mtalo.ton.tut.fi [193.166.89.194]) by lehtori.cc.tut.fi (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA31227 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 18:40:26 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <34B58AC8.2BDC@lehtori.cc.tut.fi> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 18:26:16 -0800 From: Ossi Kupila Reply-To: k150543@students.cc.tut.fi X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Obsession Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I wish I could relax. I tend to exaggerate things a little when Iīm tired and itīs 2 a clock at night... But Iīm not taking anything back. Maybe it is stupid to call anyone as a goddess. Sometimes I think Sineadīs music takes too much time out of my life. Is that obsession? I donīt know, I hate that word. Who was that person who had a Sinead fast? Do you recommend it? Peace Ossi Jeff Russell wrote: > > Wow, slow down. I think you need to relax. Sure, Sinead can sing, and she is a very > wonderful person, but don't idolize her as your "Goddess". She does have a > remarkable talent with singing and writing, but you need to be able to enjoy it, not > obsess over it. > > Ossi Kupila wrote: > > > Hi all freaks! :) > > > > Jayelle , thanks for your life story! it was good and interesting. I > > really appreciate you who have courage to express your selves despite > > of what like you are. > > I have been wondering what does we Sinead freaks have in common? > > Many of us are lesbians or gays, (I hope itīs not only becouse she once > > had a bald head). But still i think we are quite diverse group of people. > > There must be something similar in us. Our love for Sinead and her music > > is stronger than fans of other artists, in general. Atleast I am hooked > > on her like never before to anyone else. That happened a year ago when i > > bought IDNWWIHG as a christmas present for my self. (Somebody wrote how > > the artistīs first album that you buy sounds the best, not in my case; > > TLTC and UM are equally the best.) > > Back to topic... Why we,who sees Sinead as a "goddess" are so scarce? > > We must be special in some way, maybe we have somekind of gift to > > understand her music what others doesnīt have. Itīs nice to think it that way. > > Or is this thing i have just a normal love,except itīs object is a star who > > I see/imagine to be very close to me. > > Shit ,what am I writing!! I want so much to say something but I CAN`T. > > Sorry jitr. That is my problem and nature, i canīt express my self. > > Sinead helps me a lot on it. > > > > What else should I be? all apologies > > What else should I write? all apologies > > What else sholud I say? everyone is gay > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > I just canīt find The year of the horse video from anywhere, can anyone help? > > In PAL-format please. From jitr-owner Thu Jan 8 09:49:13 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id JAA28608 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:49:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.165]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id JAA28604 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:49:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from rac4.wam.umd.edu (robocop@rac4.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.144]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA28006; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:48:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (robocop@localhost) by rac4.wam.umd.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA19651; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:48:56 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rac4.wam.umd.edu: robocop owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:48:56 -0500 (EST) From: "([-| F" Reply-To: "([-| F" To: SNORIT cc: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: sinead on titanic soundtrack? In-Reply-To: <79eac946.34b42104@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I only recall one song, but there may be more. I also recall a lot of "whaling" which I thought was Enya or some new age music. Neither was. Found out the whaling is from the one song I recall. It is Celion Dion, not Sinead. It is apparent at the end with the credits. -- ([-| F On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, SNORIT wrote: > i've had two groups of friends who said that they thought sinead sang a song > on the titanic soundtrack. i haven't seen the movie and every time i go to the > record store they are sold out of the soundtrack. i figured that if she had > sung on the soundtrack we would have heard about it in here. just a question. > and maybe someone could tell me who these people are mistaking for our lovely > sinead. > > todd > From jitr-owner Thu Jan 8 09:56:47 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id JAA28696 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:56:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from sweden.it.earthlink.net (sweden-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.50]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id JAA28692 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:56:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from anything (1Cust55.max2.san-francisco2.ca.ms.uu.net [153.34.181.55]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA21458; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:56:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34B5131F.2976@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 09:56:00 -0800 From: Nic Caciappo Reply-To: nicbeat@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nicbeat@earthlink.net CC: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: sinead on titanic soundtrack? References: <79eac946.34b42104@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ SNORIT wrote: just a question. > and maybe someone could tell me who these people are mistaking for our lovely > sinead. Hello. My first post to this list.... the voice you hear is by Norway's number one pop singer, Sissel Kyrkjebo. She sings the "non-lyric" parts, not the Celine Dion "end title" love song. Sissel was the singer that performed the "Olympic Hymn" in Lillehammer in 1994 for the Winter Olympics. She will also be featured on the CD that is coming out on Tuesday, "Long Journey Home", produced by The Chieftains Paddy Maloney. Sissel has been more of a Celine Dion type of singer, until recently, as she has turned up on more adventurous things, such as the "Adventures of Pinnochio" soundtrack composed by Queen's Brian May. She's very suited to the "traditional" side of both Norwegian and Celtic music. Cheers, nic From jitr-owner Thu Jan 8 10:39:42 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA28841 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:39:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.165]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id KAA28837 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:39:39 -0800 (PST) From: SNORIT Message-ID: <5296bc52.34b51c27@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:34:15 EST To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Titanic Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ you know i was watching vh1 today and saw the video for a titanic song and it was celine dion and i thought, "oh my god! are my friends that stupid that they can't tell the difference between our beautiful sinead and this half-rate female vocalist?" i guess they are. and when i see them i am gonna set them straight. todd<----appalled at the ignorance From jitr-owner Thu Jan 8 11:14:50 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id LAA29031 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:14:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from arl-img-7.compuserve.com (arl-img-7.compuserve.com [149.174.217.137]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id LAA29027 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:14:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by arl-img-7.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.9) id OAA25952 for jitr@postmodern.com; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:14:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:13:08 -0500 From: Gwenaelle Glotin <113225.570@compuserve.com> Subject: Sinead on german tv To: jitr Message-ID: <199801081414_MC2-2E8B-1F82@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ A few days ago, someone (daniel?) asked whether Sinead had appeared on Willemsens Woche; well, she did. I missed it too, so I don't know if she sang or was only interviewed - or both - but there's a WW best of tomorro= w at 22h45 on ZDF, and according to my tv program, Sinead's appearance shou= ld be included Hope the information will prove to be true... Gwen From jitr-owner Thu Jan 8 13:29:46 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id NAA29509 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:29:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from peru.qstone.nl (peru.qstone.nl [195.108.182.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id NAA29505 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from henko (ws115.qstone.nl [195.108.182.15]) by peru.qstone.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA16661; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 20:06:21 GMT Message-Id: <199801082006.UAA16661@peru.qstone.nl> From: "Henko" To: "Gwenaelle Glotin" <113225.570@compuserve.com>, "jitr" Subject: Re: Sinead on german tv Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:04:28 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ > A few days ago, someone (daniel?) asked whether Sinead had appeared on > Willemsens Woche; well, she did. I missed it too, so I don't know if she > sang or was only interviewed - or both - but there's a WW best of tomorrow > at 22h45 on ZDF, and according to my tv program, Sinead's appearance should > be included Hope the information will prove to be true... Thank you, I will record it.... Henko From jitr-owner Thu Jan 8 16:46:05 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id QAA00154 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 16:46:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.166]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id QAA00150 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 16:46:02 -0800 (PST) From: RMiecius Message-ID: <1e8b1acb.34b57171@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:38:08 EST To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Rebel Song single, where can I find it? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi jitr: Happy New Year! About two weeks before Christmas I purchased the Best of So Far and the This is A Rebel Song cd single. I purchased these cds at HMV in Toronto (1-416-596-0333). The staff did not know about the second cd single to This is A Rebel Song, so I had to place a special order for it. As of yet, it still isn't in. Hopefully there will not be any problem getting it. (It's funny, nobody at the record store knew about this Sinead cd single. I surprised everyone when I mentioned it. The store had the cd, but they hadn't shelved it and the woman had to go in the back to get it for me.) Bilal, I suggest you contact the HMV in Winnipeg to see if they have it or can order it in for you. The (serial) number of the cd (for the one that I have) is 665299 5. Be sure to check the Sinead section and any singles section your store may have. Even call some small store that deal with imports. I just want to mention that at first I wasn't going to purchase the Best Of, but am really glad I did. It's wonderful listening to 77:56 minutes straight of Sinead. Someone had mentioned earlier that they didn't care for the Rebel Song remix, I like it, the music is different. The live songs are really good too. Has anyone purchased the video which was made of the Irish special (I cannot remember the name of it)? Sinead was on it, Van Morrison, Elvis Costello, etc. Apparently Sinead only sang one song on tv (what was the name of the song?) and I was wondering if the video available for purchase contained Sinead singing more than one song. Thanks. By for now. Jane I From jitr-owner Thu Jan 8 18:37:38 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id SAA00689 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 18:37:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.chicago.il.ameritech.net (mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net [206.141.192.243]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id SAA00685 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 18:37:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ameritech.net (dyn-max4-172.chicago.il.ameritech.net [206.141.209.172]) by mailhost.chicago.il.ameritech.net (8.8.3/8.8.3-AIMS) with ESMTP id UAA21908 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 20:37:30 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <34B58D0B.E70354CE@ameritech.net> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 20:35:55 -0600 From: Tom Mohr Reply-To: tmohr@ameritech.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-AIT (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Trade a Tape, Go to Jail? References: <199801080900.BAA27371@server.postmodern.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I thought that tape traders might find this interesting. This is the best article I have read regarding the RIAA, the new copyright infringement laws, and tape trading. Tom 1-8 2034cst (np: Paula Cole, from Mountain Stage, on tape) >From www.wired.com/news Trade a Tape, Go to Jail? by Steve Silberman 6:47pm 7.Jan.98.PST Compared to the March super-bust of 13 individuals in 12 countries on 40 counts of conspiring to manufacture and distribute bootleg CDs, the shutting down of a single Web site by the administration of a small East Coast university may seem insignificant. The implications of the shutdown, however - following a series of letters to the university by the Recording Industry Association of America - are causing ripples in the online world of tape traders, fans for whom a trickle of studio albums by their favorite artists isn't enough. Why did the RIAA single out this site - not much different from thousands of others on the Net, where traders post their "lists" in hopes of expanding their collections - threatening the site's owner with a five-year jail sentence and a US$250,000 fine for copyright infringement? Unlike several Pearl Jam fan sites shut down by RIAA threats in recent months, the site - which was run by a university staffer who asked not to be identified - never featured advance, unauthorized copies of studio releases. The site was devoted strictly to the trading of high-quality concert recordings, some of which were recorded by the staffer himself, a Bruce Springsteen aficionado well-respected by other online traders. His troubles began a few weeks ago, when email arrived from someone in Washington, DC, who said they wanted to conduct a trade. The particular kind of exchange requested was what is known in trading circles as a "newbie trade," newbie being the term for someone who is just getting started in the world of trading, and who thus usually cannot offer a swap of one show for another. Newbie trades often involve the trading of one live recording for one or two blank tapes, the extra blank being the payment for the trader's time and effort in copying the tape. Most traders, obviously, would rather enlarge their collections than trade for blanks, but when a trader's collection reaches a certain level of comprehensiveness, there's not much out there left to trade. At that point, many traders retire from the circuit, or only trade with other connoisseurs for extreme rarities. Other traders - wanting to give something back to the trading community - make the fruits of their years of hunting and gathering available to newbies. The university staffer says he spent up to 25 hours a week "spinning" tapes, many of them for newbies. The sheer volume of mail moving through his house - blank cassettes, self-addressed bubble-wrap envelopes, postage - became overwhelming. "People would send me boxes of 100 blanks and ask me to make them 50 tapes," he recalls. "I was trading with people all over the world." Finally, he decided to streamline the operation by asking newbies to send him $6 for one tape, instead of two blanks and return postage. He didn't make any profit, he says, and his wife was happier with the reduced volume of mail. "I thought I was helping everyone," he says. To the RIAA, however, a Web site proffering unauthorized recordings for cash, even with no profit margin, smells like a professional bootlegging operation. In the eyes of the group's Anti-Piracy Unit, the site was a "commercial operation." The staffer maintains that his site was run purely "to spread the music." The issue became even more complex in December, with the passage of the No Electronic Theft Act, designed to boost penalties for illegal copying of software and other intellectual property - including concert recordings and videos - for "financial gain." For traders, one particularly unsettling section of the law defines "financial gain" as "the receipt, or expectation of receipt, of anything of value, including the receipt of other copyrighted works." So is tape trading now illegal by definition - even trades where no money changes hands? Yes and no. Director Steve D'Onofrio says the Anti-Piracy Unit looks at the scale of trading involved. "One individual trading with one individual is not a problem," he says. The RIAA's position "has been to focus on commercial businesses where there is blatant copyright infringement," D'Onofrio says, singling out MPEG archive sites where unauthorized recordings are uploaded and downloaded directly from the Net - especially sites offering studio material before the release date. So can old-school snail-mail traders relax? Not quite. When a trader posts his or her list to the Web, D'Onofrio says, they approach the "very thin line" between commercial sites and non-commercial sites. In D'Onofrio's view, when a trader puts his list online, "then it's not just one person trading a tape. The entire world can get on the Internet. It's a much larger problem." The RIAA has also decided to target .edu sites, which it believes are hotbeds of copyright infringement and marketing of unauthorized recordings - "particularly universities that allow students to develop their own Web sites," D'Onofrio says. Thickening the plot, the RIAA regards newbie trades of one show for two blanks as a kind of profiteering. Most online traders, however, will not wake up tomorrow morning and find RIAA letters in their mailboxes, as that Springsteen collector did, which resulted in the university taking down his site and stripping him of his email address. D'Onofrio says the RIAA usually will not move forward with an investigation until it has a signed affidavit from the artist to do so. Though some artists discourage all trading of unofficial recordings, others - like Phish, Widespread Panic, and the Allman Brothers - encourage online tape trading as a way of building their audience. "Arguably, if there were no live tapes, people who wanted to hear Phish live would be forced to buy the albums. But the audience would be far smaller," observes Shelly Culbertson, ticketing and Internet manager for Phish, which has released two live albums in the past three years, despite the fact that there are hundreds of live Phish tapes available from traders on the Net. Culbertson believes the band is "actively accommodating" tapers and traders with special tapers' seats at concerts, and said that non-interference with fan Web sites like phish.net, has been "more effective, from a publicity point of view, than radio and MTV." Rich Breton, an online Springsteen trader with over 200 hours of live performances in his collection, thinks the RIAA should draw firmer distinctions between traders who are circulating the music for the love of it, and those who are in the game for profit. "When it comes down to newbie trades, there should be some sort of guidelines to allow personal use," Breton says. Most of the traders he knows make a "huge distinction" between pre-release copies of studio material and live tapes, he says. Besides, Breton observes, "Anyone I know who trades already has all the official releases, and if they're really into it, they even have the import CDs with special extra tracks." While the RIAA's D'Onofrio allows that small-scale traders have "not been a major issue up to now," he says, "the Net changes everything." From jitr-owner Fri Jan 9 06:53:18 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id GAA03567 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 06:53:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.169]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id GAA03563 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 06:53:15 -0800 (PST) From: SNORIT Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:51:56 EST To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Trade a Tape, Go to Jail? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ granted that the artist should make a profit for their work and effort, but there are rapist, murderers, and other looneys out there that the authorities should be spending their time tracking down. i agree that commercial material shouldn't be distributed by traders, but live material not available in stores should be open game. sorry if you think i have been contributing too much lately, but since i am on winter break now i need an outlet. i promise to crawl back into my scholastic hole by the end of the month. todd From jitr-owner Fri Jan 9 08:11:56 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id IAA03900 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:11:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from dns.eng.auburn.edu (0@dns.eng.auburn.edu [131.204.10.13]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id IAA03896 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:11:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from wainwright.eng.auburn.edu (wainwright.eng.auburn.edu [131.204.123.18]) by dns.eng.auburn.edu (8.8.5/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA12515; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:11:49 -0600 (CST) From: Charles W McCraw Received: (mccracw@localhost) by wainwright.eng.auburn.edu (SMI-8.6/8.6.4) id KAA15286; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:11:46 -0600 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:11:46 -0600 Message-Id: <199801091611.KAA15286@wainwright.eng.auburn.edu> To: jitr@postmodern.com, SNORIT@aol.com Subject: Re: Trade a Tape, Go to Jail? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ > granted that the artist should make a profit for their work and effort, but > there are rapist, murderers, and other looneys out there that the authorities > should be spending their time tracking down. i agree that commercial material > shouldn't be distributed by traders, but live material not available in stores > should be open game. I agree that the artist should be allowed to make some money off of their work but haven't they already if say I brought a legitimet tape and person B also brought a ligetimet tape of different album and then we decided to trade for the albums we didn't have with one another? granted the artist wouldn't make as much money as he/she would have if we both brought the album but sometimes it is hard to get fast selling CD's and tapes where I live and sometimes, not all the time, trading is the only way I can get them quickly. CHarles From jitr-owner Fri Jan 9 08:32:25 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id IAA03963 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:32:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from netmgr.cso.niu.edu (netmgr.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.11]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id IAA03959 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:32:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from WPO.CSO.NIU.EDU (netops.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.39]) by netmgr.cso.niu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA16562 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:32:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from Domain1-Message_Server by WPO.CSO.NIU.EDU with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 09 Jan 1998 10:32:05 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 10:31:46 -0600 From: Sumiko Keay To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: Trade a Tape, Go to Jail? -Reply Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Right! Plus by making very limited editions or having different tracks on one version than another of their cds -- they've made it difficult for us to buy their music in the store anyway! Think how difficult it is to buy cd singles -- almost impossible without special ordering if you don't live near a major metropolitan area! From jitr-owner Fri Jan 9 08:56:48 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id IAA04039 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:56:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.ufl.edu (sp04.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.175.134]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id IAA04031 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:56:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mobile (ppp-25-ts4.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.209.75]) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/1.5.1) with SMTP id LAA135730; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:56:31 -0500 Message-ID: <34B657C6.ABD@ufl.edu> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 12:00:54 -0500 From: Lydia X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tmohr@ameritech.net CC: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Trade a Tape, Go to Jail? References: <199801080900.BAA27371@server.postmodern.com> <34B58D0B.E70354CE@ameritech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I think it is reprehensible that the government will spend its time protecting the financial interests of the rich rather than protecting the interests of society as a whole--i.e., catching the rapists, murderers etc. Says a lot about our society, no? We would rather keep oppressed the already oppressed so long as financial interests remain protected. Wonder how much the gov't REALLY profits. . . I'm sure the whole matter is obscene. From jitr-owner Fri Jan 9 09:26:36 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id JAA04139 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:26:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from italy.it.earthlink.net (italy-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.18]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id JAA04135 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:26:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from anything (1Cust84.max2.san-francisco2.ca.ms.uu.net [153.34.181.84]) by italy.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA28895; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:26:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34B65D83.5F7D@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 09:25:37 -0800 From: Nic Caciappo Reply-To: nicbeat@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nicbeat@earthlink.net CC: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Titanic References: <5296bc52.34b51c27@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ SNORIT wrote: > > you know i was watching vh1 today and saw the video for a titanic song and it > was celine dion and i thought, "oh my god! are my friends that stupid that > they can't tell the difference between our beautiful sinead and this half-rate > female vocalist?" i guess they are. and when i see them i am gonna set them > straight. Todd... everybody has a "taste" for music or singers. I am not a Celine Dion fan, I do not own any of her CD's, but she certainly is not a "half-rate" singer. She has a very strong voice and is making a great deal of money for that reason. I do believe that Sinead is more of an artist and has a strong voice as well.... plus I do own her CD's! :) The voice that is in the end and *only* the end of the movie is Celine, the voice through out the whole film singing the non-lyric passages is Sissel from Norway. On Tuesday, Sissel and Sinead will both appear on the same release of the "Long Journey Home" CD produced by The Chieftains Paddy Moloney..... and Celine isn't on it. nic From jitr-owner Fri Jan 9 10:01:53 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA04358 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:01:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.170]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id KAA04354 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:01:51 -0800 (PST) From: Leannuh Message-ID: <589d345.34b66609@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:01:44 EST To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: jitr-digest V4 #7 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi Everyone!!! This is my first time experience with this list... i was searching around the web the other day and it finally occurred to me to look to see if there were any web sites devoted to Sinéad. And much to my great pleasure, i discovered a plethora of information... and this list. Its certainly comforting to know that i am not the ONLY person on the face of this earth who loves Sinéad the way that I do. I was starting to think that maybe I was. It was nice to read Jayelle's posting and that others feel as I do in respect to feeling somewhat isolated in our admiration for her. I hear insults and disdain for her when i mention that she is my favorite musician, and has been for the past seven years, from almost everyone i encounter. It gets frustrating after awhile when people here in the US cannot see past her SNL appearance and the National Anthem issue to see what she actually has to say. Her music speaks to me in a way that no other artist has ever been able to do. Ossi Kupila wrote yesterday that perhaps those of us who admire her as we do might have the ability to understand her music that others do not. And im not totally convinced that there isnt some truth to that. Because i DO know that others just DONT get it... but it moves me deeply, in my soul. And it does seem to be true.. there is much diversity among her true fans... I myself am a single mother, 25, and a pre-med student. My question is, since this seems to be the source to finally gain answers to some of my long held Sinéad questions, what is the inspiration behind the song on Universal Mother called Scorn Not His SImplicity? This has been especially moving to me because my four year old son is disabled, and i identify strongly with what she has to say in it. I was just wondering WHY she wrote that song. Any ideas? Also, and this is most likely a stupid question, I was wondering if you were all aware of her performance of a duet on The The's album Mind Bomb, a song called Kingdom of Rain. I've had that album for about six years, my sister gave it to me when she heard the duet with Sinéad. It's really an awesome song. So, anyway... nice to have this outlet to hear from other fans. Take care everyone!!! -Valerie From jitr-owner Fri Jan 9 14:45:46 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id OAA05226 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:45:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from sumh1.reading.ac.uk (sumh1.rdg.ac.uk [134.225.16.4]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id OAA05222 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:45:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from suma3.rdg.ac.uk (actually host suma3-e4) by sumh1.rdg.ac.uk with ESMTP; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 22:45:36 +0000 Received: from localhost by suma3.rdg.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA07605; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 22:45:35 GMT Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 22:45:35 +0000 (GMT) From: Janet Bigalievna Turarbekova To: Nic Caciappo cc: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Titanic In-Reply-To: <34B65D83.5F7D@earthlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi all, I agree with fact concerning Celine Dion! love and peace Janet On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Nic Caciappo wrote: > SNORIT wrote: > > > > you know i was watching vh1 today and saw the video for a titanic song and it > > was celine dion and i thought, "oh my god! are my friends that stupid that > > they can't tell the difference between our beautiful sinead and this half-rate > > female vocalist?" i guess they are. and when i see them i am gonna set them > > straight. > > Todd... everybody has a "taste" for music or singers. I am not a Celine > Dion fan, I do not own any of her CD's, but she certainly is not a > "half-rate" singer. She has a very strong voice and is making a great > deal of money for that reason. I do believe that Sinead is more of an > artist and has a strong voice as well.... plus I do own her CD's! :) > > The voice that is in the end and *only* the end of the movie is Celine, > the voice through out the whole film singing the non-lyric passages is > Sissel from Norway. On Tuesday, Sissel and Sinead will both appear on > the same release of the "Long Journey Home" CD produced by The > Chieftains Paddy Moloney..... and Celine isn't on it. > > nic > From jitr-owner Fri Jan 9 15:49:37 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id PAA05348 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 15:49:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from sumh1.reading.ac.uk (sumh1.rdg.ac.uk [134.225.16.4]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id PAA05344 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 15:49:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from suma3.rdg.ac.uk (actually host suma3-e4) by sumh1.rdg.ac.uk with ESMTP; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 23:49:32 +0000 Received: from localhost by suma3.rdg.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA08926; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 23:49:31 GMT Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 23:49:31 +0000 (GMT) From: Janet Bigalievna Turarbekova To: jitr@postmodern.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello all, I'm sorry falks for using jitr, I'm looking for guy from Spain, whom I promised to check out wether Enya's single was released here in UK, so pls if you recognised yourself as this one, pls e-mail me privately, hope I have good news for you. Sorry for using jitr. Thanks everyone, Love and peace Janet From jitr-owner Fri Jan 9 16:23:28 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id QAA05449 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 16:23:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcrcr6.med.nyu.edu (SYSTEM@mcrcr6.med.nyu.edu [128.122.244.5]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id QAA05445 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 16:23:25 -0800 (PST) From: Christian.Petrulio@mcems.med.nyu.edu Received: from ccmail.med.nyu.edu by MCRCR6.MED.NYU.EDU (PMDF V5.1-10 #24941) id <01IS6N27S4DC8WZ9T2@MCRCR6.MED.NYU.EDU> for jitr@postmodern.com; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 19:23:15 EDT Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 18:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re[2]: jitr-digest V4 #7 To: Leannuh@aol.com, jitr@postmodern.com Message-id: <01IS6N3VBAVY8WZ9T2@MCRCR6.MED.NYU.EDU> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Valerie, Welcome to the list. Sinead did not write Scorn.., it was written by the guy who produced the album. I wish you the best of luck with your motherhood and your career. I am actually starting medical school in August, so maybe someday our paths will cross. Enjoy the list. Christian From jitr-owner Sat Jan 10 02:21:08 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id CAA08161 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 02:21:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ha1.rdc1.sdca.home.com (siteadm@ha1.rdc1.sdca.home.com [24.0.3.66]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id CAA08157 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 02:21:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from home.com ([24.0.146.23]) by ha1.rdc1.sdca.home.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA22956 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 02:21:03 -0800 Message-ID: <34B748C5.C52DEE14@home.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 02:09:09 -0800 From: "JEFF J." Organization: @Home Network Member X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-AtHome0402 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Blah, blah, blah :- ) References: <199801100900.BAA07958@server.postmodern.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ HeLL0 fellow hUMANS: I am just writting to say i agree with Valerie, as I'm sure most of us do, I have lived in SeVeRaL different states here in the U.S. and spent a year in Japan, and besides my sister and i, I've yet to find anyone else in all of the places I've lived that like/love Sinead O'Connors music and her as much as myself, so this "LIST" is really helpful in that it lets me know I'm not alone when it comes to admiring Sinead & her music. I felt like just meeting as many people as I could when seen Sinead perform in Los Angeles, just to see all the people that came out to see her it was really REALLY overwhelming..anyway its late here and I'm starting to feel like I'm not making much sense :- ) Jeff From jitr-owner Sat Jan 10 03:43:02 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id DAA08482 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 03:43:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from peru.qstone.nl (peru.qstone.nl [195.108.182.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id DAA08478 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 03:42:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from henko (ews2.qstone.nl [195.108.182.102]) by peru.qstone.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24390; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 10:32:20 GMT Message-Id: <199801101032.KAA24390@peru.qstone.nl> From: "Henko" To: "Gwenaelle Glotin" <113225.570@compuserve.com>, "jitr" Subject: Re: Sinead on german tv Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:29:58 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ > A few days ago, someone (daniel?) asked whether Sinead had appeared on > Willemsens Woche; well, she did. I missed it too, so I don't know if she > sang or was only interviewed - or both - but there's a WW best of tomorrow > at 22h45 on ZDF, and according to my tv program, Sinead's appearance should > be included Hope the information will prove to be true... I've recorded it, and it was only a interview... Hope some of you also did record it, because my german is not that well Henko... p.s. She was looking great... From jitr-owner Sat Jan 10 08:48:58 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id IAA09116 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 08:48:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from po4.wam.umd.edu (po4.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.166]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id IAA09112 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 08:48:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from rac2.wam.umd.edu (robocop@rac2.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.142]) by po4.wam.umd.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA03748 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:48:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (robocop@localhost) by rac2.wam.umd.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA05635 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:48:51 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rac2.wam.umd.edu: robocop owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:48:51 -0500 (EST) From: "([-| F" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Trade a Tape, Go to Jail? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Unfortunately, opinions don't count in the court of law. The phrase is "unauthorized duplication is a violation of applicable laws" or to that effect. It is GENERALLY a duplication for profit. Be careful of your word choice (for the record) when conducting a trade and it will be your (recorded) word vs the rec company. -- ([-| F > granted that the artist should make a profit for their work and effort, but > there are rapist, murderers, and other looneys out there that the authorities > should be spending their time tracking down. i agree that commercial material > shouldn't be distributed by traders, but live material not available in stores > should be open game. > > sorry if you think i have been contributing too much lately, but since i am on > winter break now i need an outlet. i promise to crawl back into my scholastic > hole by the end of the month. From jitr-owner Sat Jan 10 10:57:40 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA09332 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 10:57:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id KAA09328 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 10:57:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from eduardve ([195.121.24.138]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with SMTP id AAA2507 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 19:57:01 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980110195619.006a824c@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: anna@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 19:56:19 +0100 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: anna Subject: Sinead and Chieftains released in HOLLAND Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi all. I just bought the new Chieftains cd with the sung by Sinead song Skibbereen. The whole cd is a sort of soundtrack for a docu-movie called 'the long journey home' and is all about Ireland and the famine. But most important is of course the new Sinead song. It's a song like Raglan road, or he moved through the fair. A bit slow, not much instruments, but i like it tough. Eduard From jitr-owner Sat Jan 10 14:08:32 1998 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id OAA09841 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 14:08:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from callisto.uwinnipeg.ca (root@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca [142.132.1.23]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id OAA09837 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 14:08:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from brana.UWinnipeg.ca (sdi6m3.uwinnipeg.ca [142.132.55.4]) by callisto.uwinnipeg.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10056; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 16:10:41 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199801102210.QAA10056@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca> From: "Bilal A.Rana" To: , Subject: Re: Obsession Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 16:00:03 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.4 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello Ossi, It was I who initiated that most difficult of fasts: theSinead Fast. I simply had to. I thought my situation wasn't healthy. In the previous message I wrote that we should keep our distance from calling Sinead a goddess, yet, the amount of time I was thinking about Sinead as well as things Sinead, in essence, amounted to a form of worship. I found it most distressing to think that I was an idolater of sorts. Y'see, I'm a monotheist. Anyways, I recall being unable to focus on chemistry once, because I couldn't stop humming This Is To Mother You. Imagine that! I was no longer thinking about the music alone either. I was thinking about Sinead herself a little too much. I thought it was pretty wacky, nay - bazonkers! I initiated the fast twice. The first time, I failed miserably. I had given away my cd's to different friends to ensure that they were inaccessible. One night, I had to hear Troy and Drink Before The War SO BADLY, I went to my nearest friends house and told him the fast was off and to give back TLATC. (i just found out that one friends actually lost AINYG, imagine that!) THEN, Gospel Oak came out, and sheesh, things just went from bad to, well, bazonkers. So I restarted the fast and just stopped listening to her altogether for about two complete months. Ossi, most definitely try it out! It works! After the fast was over, my mind was clear. No more humming. I could simply, just appreciate her music, and it didn't have to be all the time. I admit though, the initial weeks were most torturous. But towards the end, the fasting got easier and easier. Fasting just works great! I went cold turkey on Star Trek a few years ago, and it worked the same way. Oh yeah, should you actually endeavor to undertake the Sinead Fast, you would also have to stay away from jitr. If yer reading jitr often, you simply won't be able to get sinead out of your head. It just won't work. Now that I'm thinking about it, maybe I too will restart the Sinead fast for a few months. Or even better, a music fast. Y'know, get in touch with the sound of silence and all. anyways, later all, bilal ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://callisto.uwinnipeg.ca/~brana/sinead.htm brana@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > From: Ossi Kupila > To: jitr@postmodern.com > Subject: Obsession > Date: January 8, 1998 8:26 PM > > I wish I could relax. I tend to exaggerate things a little when Iīm > tired and itīs > 2 a clock at night... But Iīm not