From jitr-owner Mon Sep 1 03:24:38 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id DAA02316 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 03:24:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server.psion.com (mailhost.psion.com [194.129.1.253]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id DAA02311 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 03:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpgate.psion.com ([194.129.1.248]) by server.psion.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA254; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 11:18:52 +0100 Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.psion.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA873138205; Mon, 01 Sep 97 11:15:44 GMT Date: Mon, 01 Sep 97 11:15:44 GMT From: "Mandy Green" Message-Id: <9708018731.AA873138205@smtpgate.psion.com> To: jitr@server.postmodern.com, lastfortress@earthlink.net Subject: Re: So Sorry Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Thanks for the thoughtful message. This was indeed a terrible, terrible, untimely, pointless death of a beautiful, kind person. We are all in a state of shock. It feels like a bad dream. Mandy ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: So Sorry Author: lastfortress@earthlink.net at INTERNET Date: 31/08/97 16:05 Condolences to all British JITR members on the death of your beautiful Princess Diana. We loved her much Stateside, too... Thank You For Hearing Me, Jake From jitr-owner Mon Sep 1 03:27:52 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id DAA02342 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 03:27:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server.psion.com (mailhost.psion.com [194.129.1.253]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id DAA02337 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 03:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpgate.psion.com ([194.129.1.248]) by server.psion.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA222 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 11:22:29 +0100 Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.psion.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA873138434; Mon, 01 Sep 97 11:15:44 GMT Date: Mon, 01 Sep 97 11:15:44 GMT From: "Mandy Green" Message-Id: <9708018731.AA873138434@smtpgate.psion.com> To: jitr@server.postmodern.com, lastfortress@earthlink.net Subject: Re: So Sorry Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Thanks for the thoughtful message. This was indeed a terrible, terrible, untimely, pointless death of a beautiful, kind person. We are all in a state of shock. It feels like a bad dream. Mandy ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: So Sorry Author: lastfortress@earthlink.net at INTERNET Date: 31/08/97 16:05 Condolences to all British JITR members on the death of your beautiful Princess Diana. We loved her much Stateside, too... Thank You For Hearing Me, Jake From jitr-owner Mon Sep 1 05:38:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id FAA02766 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 05:38:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server1.rz.uni-leipzig.de (root@server1.rz.uni-leipzig.de [139.18.1.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id FAA02761 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 05:37:51 -0700 (PDT) From: soz96cno@studserv.uni-leipzig.de Received: from studserv.uni-leipzig.de (studserv.uni-leipzig.de [139.18.1.15]) by server1.rz.uni-leipzig.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA24471 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 14:37:23 +0200 (MESZ) Received: by studserv.uni-leipzig.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA26425; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 14:37:16 +0200 Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 14:37:16 +0200 (MESZ) To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Sinead Interview in German radio In-Reply-To: <199709010800.BAA02041@server.postmodern.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, everybody! Good news for all fans in middle Europe: The German radio station "Deutschlandfunk" airs a 45-minute-interview with Sinead on Monday, September, 8th. I do not know exactly if it is a new interview, but the programme list of the station says it would be an interview about her 10-year-carrer... I will tape the interview (of course!!!!!) and if you are interested in, please mail me. Here's some information how to listen to this interview: - IN GERMANY, "Deutschlandfunk" is available in nearly every city by a usual radio tuner. - THE REST OF EUROPE can listen to it via satellite, the station can be received analouge on the ASTRA satellite system (I do not know exactly which frequency...) - TIME OF TRANSMISSION: 22.05 MESZ (10 p.m. Central European time) IMO, the interview will be translated into German - but maybe the original responses are available, too. More news to come. Shalom, Daniel Heinze from Germany. From jitr-owner Mon Sep 1 06:22:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id GAA02863 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 06:22:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id GAA02858 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 06:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm3-54.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.185]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA02410 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 15:21:54 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970901145142.00698f7c@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 14:51:42 +0200 To: JITR From: Mars-L Subject: Columbia Release info needed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, If someone has bought one of those Columbia releases please mail me the details of it; - promo/sales release - tracks + titles (preferly with track times) - catalogue number - made in....... - cd/vinyl/mini-disc (ARE THERE ANY MINI DISCS OR DCC's OF SINEAD ???) --------- M A R S - L ------------------------------------------------- Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor Page - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead.htm - FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE -------------- From jitr-owner Mon Sep 1 06:26:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id GAA02913 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 06:26:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id GAA02908 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 06:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm3-54.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.185]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA02593 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 15:26:44 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970901152554.00765938@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 15:25:54 +0200 To: JITR From: Mars-L Subject: Rock History Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ This Week In Rock History August 24, 1990 Sinead O'Connor refused to take the stage if the US National Anthem was plyed before her show at the Garden State Arts Center (now the PNC Arts Center) in New Jersey. A patriotic backlash followed as several radio stations refused to play her music. --------- M A R S - L ------------------------------------------------- Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor Page - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead.htm - FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE -------------- From jitr-owner Mon Sep 1 07:30:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id HAA03019 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 07:30:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id HAA03011 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 07:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (ah37.pi.net [145.220.203.37]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA18444 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 16:28:23 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 16:28:23 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970901162715.400f4054@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: anna@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 16:27:15 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Eduard Verheijen Subject: sinead on live tapes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi all. For those who didn't know it yet. I have a large collection of live audio tapes from sinead. If you want more info or receive a list of tapes, feel free to e-mail me at anna@pi.net Bye for now...eduard From jitr-owner Mon Sep 1 08:54:58 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id IAA03181 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 08:54:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server.psion.com (mailhost.psion.com [194.129.1.253]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id IAA03176 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 08:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpgate.psion.com ([194.129.1.248]) by server.psion.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA180; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 16:49:05 +0100 Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.psion.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA873157488; Mon, 01 Sep 97 16:42:17 GMT Date: Mon, 01 Sep 97 16:42:17 GMT From: "Mandy Green" Message-Id: <9708018731.AA873157488@smtpgate.psion.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com, Mars-L Subject: Re: Go Columbia Go Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Well, I'm searching for info on the film - but in the meantime I can tell everyone that the title "Oh Mary This London" comes from the traditional song "The Mountains Of Mourne"...text for this can be found on http://www.epix.net/~lesley/folk/mourne.htm I'll check out the BBC2 SCREEN TWO film and get back to you. Mandy ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Go Columbia Go Author: Mars-L at INTERNET Date: 31/08/97 22:34 hello, Finally a record company gave Sinead Internet attention.... Columbia Records has made a page containing a bibliography, with at least one interesting thing; "She followed this up by recording the opening music for "Oh Mary This London," a new film for BBC Screen Two." Can anybody tell me what this might be, and wether there is a recording of this song available or this film ?????? Secondly it contains a great background !!! DOWNLOAD IT !!! Thirtly and above all, it contains a 30 seconds MOV-file (QuickTime or MOV-player Needed) of the video-clip for This Is To Mother You. (and a AUDIO .RAM-file (30 seconds Real Audio)) The site has a great adress; http://www.gospel-oak.com it ain't www.sinead.com because someone who is probably in need for money and hoping he was able to sell the adress name, registered it already about half a year ago. --------- M A R S - L ------------------------------------------------- Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor Page - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead.htm - FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE -------------- From jitr-owner Mon Sep 1 08:55:11 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id IAA03208 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 08:55:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server.psion.com (mailhost.psion.com [194.129.1.253]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id IAA03195 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 08:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpgate.psion.com ([194.129.1.248]) by server.psion.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA243 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 16:49:12 +0100 Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.psion.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA873157859; Mon, 01 Sep 97 16:42:17 GMT Date: Mon, 01 Sep 97 16:42:17 GMT From: "Mandy Green" Message-Id: <9708018731.AA873157859@smtpgate.psion.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com, Mars-L Subject: Re: Go Columbia Go Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Well, I'm searching for info on the film - but in the meantime I can tell everyone that the title "Oh Mary This London" comes from the traditional song "The Mountains Of Mourne"...text for this can be found on http://www.epix.net/~lesley/folk/mourne.htm I'll check out the BBC2 SCREEN TWO film and get back to you. Mandy ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Go Columbia Go Author: Mars-L at INTERNET Date: 31/08/97 22:34 hello, Finally a record company gave Sinead Internet attention.... Columbia Records has made a page containing a bibliography, with at least one interesting thing; "She followed this up by recording the opening music for "Oh Mary This London," a new film for BBC Screen Two." Can anybody tell me what this might be, and wether there is a recording of this song available or this film ?????? Secondly it contains a great background !!! DOWNLOAD IT !!! Thirtly and above all, it contains a 30 seconds MOV-file (QuickTime or MOV-player Needed) of the video-clip for This Is To Mother You. (and a AUDIO .RAM-file (30 seconds Real Audio)) The site has a great adress; http://www.gospel-oak.com it ain't www.sinead.com because someone who is probably in need for money and hoping he was able to sell the adress name, registered it already about half a year ago. --------- M A R S - L ------------------------------------------------- Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor Page - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead.htm - FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE -------------- From jitr-owner Mon Sep 1 11:21:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id LAA03604 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 11:21:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com (emout18.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.44]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id LAA03599 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 11:21:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Gogobooty3@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id OAA03217 for jitr@postmodern.com; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 14:20:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 14:20:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970901141948_690791874@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: i love my boy....i don't want him to be aware that there's any such thing as gri Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ wasn't sinead's trip to jeruselem recently ruined by being chased by photographers into women only spaces? i was camping over the weekend & came home last night to diana all over the tv...i have a great deal of sympathy for her children and for her, dying in such a pointless manner. between the drunk driver and the idiots chasing her, she didn't have a chance. stupid photographers and tabloid publishers are yakking about how the "world demands" photos of people like diana and sinead out & going about the business of their lives. not true. i'd rather see a beautiful, consented-to studio photo than a blurry something i know caused distress to the person in the picture. it's gruesome and it's unnecessary. peace to all----claudia From jitr-owner Mon Sep 1 13:34:57 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id NAA03841 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 13:34:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail0.tor.acc.ca (mail0.tor.acc.ca [204.92.54.110]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id NAA03836 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 13:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [142.154.21.142] (ppp-142.m2-4.tor.ican.net [142.154.21.142]) by mail0.tor.acc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA13652 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 16:34:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 16:37:55 -0400 To: jitr@server.postmodern.com From: 699738@ican.net (Kevin Aiello) Subject: Sinead live in Toronto Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ New to this list as of a few days ago, I wanted to tell you all that, in just a few hours from now, I will be seeing Miss O'Connor in concert at Massey Hall here in Toronto (Monday, Sept. 1). To say I am looking forward to this event is a vast understatement, as I have enjoyed Sinead's music immensely since 1990. Also, I think Gospel Oak is a superb piece of work and the set-list for the present tour is ideal: all of Gospel Oak + the best songs from Universal Mother. Glad to be "here" and I'll let you all know what I think of the show afterwards... kfa, Toronto From jitr-owner Mon Sep 1 14:08:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id OAA03944 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 14:08:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id OAA03938 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 14:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm3-44.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.175]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA16975 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 23:08:11 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970901223143.0076e514@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 22:31:43 +0200 To: JITR From: Mars-L Subject: New York beacon Theatre Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Send to me by JCM Set list for New York-Beacon Theatre and a small review. The Emperor's New Clothes You Made Me the Thief of Your Heart I am Stretched on Your Grave A Perfect Indian This IS a Rebel Song John, I love You This is to Mother You Petit Poulet Thank You For Hearing Me In This Heart Fire on Babylon The last day of our Acquaintance Encores Redemption Song He Moved Through the Fair Famine Great show! The New York audience went wild. There is no doubt in my mind that Sinead will have no trouble earning a living here in America. The response was even more enthusiastic than I thought it would be. The show was much more polished than it was in Asbury Park. The Screaming Orphans were 100% better and Sinead's voice was fearless and strong. The energy was more intense in N.Y. but the encore of He Moved Through the Fair in Asbury Park will still be the moment I remember most from this tour. JCM --------- M A R S - L ------------------------------------------------- Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor Page - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead.htm - FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE -------------- From jitr-owner Mon Sep 1 14:08:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id OAA03985 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 14:08:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id OAA03939 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 14:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm3-44.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.175]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA16968 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 23:08:09 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970901222027.0076e514@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 22:20:27 +0200 To: JITR From: Mars-L Subject: Sinead True Type Font Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, I've asked this before but didn't get a reply, so I'll give it another try; I am sure there exists a True Type Font of the caracters Sinead uses for her name on almost every CD !!! I know this for sure because about 2 months ago I received a letter of someone (damn why did I trash it!!!) who used this font. If someone know the title of this font or even better can help me find it or best; send it to me, PLEASE DO !!!! Also; Is there someone who knows how to create new fonts, cause I'd like to use that star+dot as a caracter, ofcourse adding just that caracter to an existing TTF would also be okay. For example that Prince symbol is added to a TTF so when pressing "{" while using the TTF you'll get that symbol. It must be easy to do in Sinead's case because the star already exists in the TTF entitled "Wingdings" by pressing SHIFT-Y. So only the dot have to be added.. --------- M A R S - L ------------------------------------------------- Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor Page - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead.htm - FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE -------------- From jitr-owner Mon Sep 1 15:46:28 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id PAA04216 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 15:46:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from intend.pc.cc.cmu.edu (INTEND.PC.CC.CMU.EDU [128.2.38.27]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id PAA04211 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 15:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from viento@localhost) by intend.pc.cc.cmu.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA01624 for jitr@postmodern.com; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 18:46:20 -0400 (EDT) From: wanderer of breezy meadows Message-Id: <199709012246.SAA01624@intend.pc.cc.cmu.edu> Subject: Ballroom Show To: jitr@postmodern.com Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 18:46:19 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: viento@cmu.edu (viento wanderer of breezy meadows) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Went to the show on Saturday night at the Capitol Ballroom in D.C. It was a great venue since it was so small (compared to the outdoor festival where I saw her in Switzerland in July) and cozy. The song lineup was much the same as other people have been quoting. I really liked her first encore song, Redemption Day by Bob Marley. It was great. I got a good recording of the show on Minidisc, much better than my Switzerland recording that was turned up too high and thus distorted. Well worth the 4-hr drive to DC. Yay for us! From jitr-owner Mon Sep 1 15:51:16 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id PAA04271 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 15:51:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id PAA04264 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 15:51:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm3-44.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.175]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA19869 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 00:50:50 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970902004952.00762a4c@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 00:49:52 +0200 To: JITR From: Mars-L Subject: 1997 ARTICLES Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ hello, I've added 6 of the (IMHO) most interesting articles to my homepage. I will only include the ones I think are interesting and won't include older ones then the 1997 ones.... You can find them under "Reading Stuff" If you want older & more articles, I'd advice you to go to Roman's site. Also (thanx to Jae Han Kim) I will be able to add resent photo's soon ! Again, for older & more pictures, go to Roman's site !! --------- M A R S - L ------------------------------------------------- Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor Page - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead.htm - FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE -------------- From jitr-owner Mon Sep 1 16:57:11 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id QAA04393 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 16:57:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id QAA04387 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 16:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm3-58.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.189]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA28030 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 01:57:03 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970902015612.0076f4f0@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 01:56:12 +0200 To: JITR From: Mars-L Subject: Pictures Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ hello, Okay about 15 photo's have been added to my homepage THANX TO JAE HAN KIM (who I also have to thank for his name -Jae- which I used for my son, as he knows !!) The pictures are only accessible (at the moment) through the small menu frame ! Don't expect a superb lay-out the page is still under construction, and I will also add thumbnails of each photo within some days, so you can decide wether the picture is worth to download. --------- M A R S - L ------------------------------------------------- Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor Page - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead.htm - FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE -------------- From jitr-owner Tue Sep 2 00:04:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id AAA00935 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 00:04:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from macondo.dmu.ac.uk ([146.227.1.4]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id AAA00906 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 00:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helios.dmu.ac.uk (root@helios [146.227.1.1]) by macondo.dmu.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id IAA22494 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 08:09:01 +0100 Received: from W0704B20.moe.edu.sg (w0704b26.moe.edu.sg [166.121.34.166]) by helios.dmu.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id IAA04282 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 08:00:20 +0100 Message-ID: <340BB98C.7ECE@cavalry.com> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 15:00:28 +0800 From: Dawn X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: re: looking for... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello everyone! Yeah, me too... anyone has ideas to help out fans who happen not to reside where all the Sinead goodies are? Please e-mail me... Thanks, Dawn Singapore ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi all!! I have a HUGE LIST of Sinéad's song (almost all of the ones I've heard about and that are not in regular albuns)... they must be about 60..... I'd like to know if there's anyone willing to tape record at least some of them for me... Of course I'll pay for the tape and postage.... Please, e-mail me if any kind soul could help a desperate fan in a place where nothing about her comes..... : ( Christiane From jitr-owner Tue Sep 2 09:24:07 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id JAA00174 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:24:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from honor.greatcircle.com (honor.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.44]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id JAA00161 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:23:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Gogobooty3@aol.com Received: from emout25.mail.aol.com (emout25.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.130]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-970824-1) with ESMTP id JAA19705 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by emout25.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id MAA18226 for jitr@postmodern.com; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 12:08:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 12:08:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970902110959_226823649@emout20.mail.aol.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: catholicism & collapse Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ hello all--- one of the things i've wondered about is in regard to sinead's interviews where she talks about ireland & catholicism in ireland "collapsing" because of child abuse allegations. i am interested in reading more about this---not so much sinead's point of view but actual articles that may have run in ireland addressing the issues. frank mc court's book, " angela's ashes," about growing up in dire poverty in limerick, ireland has a lot to say about the elitism (at best) and abuse (at worst) that he suffered as a poor catholic boy. even up thru the 50s & 60s in the US there was the assumption that catholic schools were "strict" and that nuns & priests had no problem hitting & humiliating children as a method of teaching. i was raised catholic & went to parochial school for 3 years, 7th, 8th & 9th grade. my education there was decidedly substandard. girls were encouraged to be passive & were physically segregated from the boys on the playground. even as a young child making my first communion & first confession it felt stilted & false. i never believed, never had faith in the dogma i was forced to recite. as i got older i came to understand what sorts of confines the church sought to impose on my life as a woman. i saw the main concern (if i listened to the sermons at mass) was to produce more catholics and to continue to get money out of people. as a human it is my right to be a sexual being, to control conception, to choose abortion if contraception fails. i have exerted these rights throughout my life and have felt no guilt in relation to my catholicism that never took. catholic school in the late 70s was pale in comparison to the abuses in earlier decades. however, i did learn in my 20s that the main priest of our parish, the one everyone had found to be charismatic and interesting, was in fact an alcoholic. he would take altar boys to the drive in movies and get them smashed as well. they often drove home. he also molested some of the altar boys (to what extent i am unsure). for once being a girl wasn't to be automatic prey, since he liked boys. eventually, the truth came out somewhat, but he was not prosecuted or even punished. last i heard he was sent to a parish in tijuana where he could molest little brown children who matter less to the church. in edna o'brien's currently released novel, "down by the river" a young irish girl is repeatedly raped by her father & ends up pregnant. she attempts to go to england for an abortion and is hauled back to ireland. i believe this is somewhat based on a true story and i think i heard something about sinead speaking out on the girl's behalf. if anyone can refer me to any articles about this as well i'd be glad to research the subject. thanks & peace--------claudia From jitr-owner Tue Sep 2 09:27:11 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id JAA00454 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:27:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from honor.greatcircle.com (honor.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.44]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id JAA00442 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.pi.net (mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-970824-1) with ESMTP id CAA19553 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 02:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (ah78.pi.net [145.220.203.78]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA23448 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 11:15:57 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 11:15:57 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.16.19970902111558.09efe7ae@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: anna@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (16) Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 11:15:58 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Eduard Verheijen Subject: Best of sinead Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello. According to my local record store the ebst of sinead has been released here in the netherlands 28 august. I did not see it yet however in the stores. Eduard [anna@pi.net] From jitr-owner Tue Sep 2 09:37:41 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id JAA00539 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:37:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail5.microsoft.com (mail5.microsoft.com [131.107.3.31]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id JAA00534 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail5.microsoft.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.27) id ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:39:48 -0700 Message-ID: <21906AFB6C7BCF11A6ED08002BB69CC704354C7E@RED-90-MSG.dns.microsoft.com> From: "Carla Blazek (Volt Computer)" To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: leaving jitr Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:36:05 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.27) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Who do I email to request removal from this List? Thanks in advance, Carla From jitr-owner Tue Sep 2 10:02:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA00702 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 10:02:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Xenon.Stanford.EDU [171.64.64.24]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id KAA00689 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 10:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rholmes@localhost) by Xenon.Stanford.EDU (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA24178; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 10:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 10:02:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Holmes Message-Id: <199709021702.KAA24178@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: michael's rerebuttle? Cc: rholmes@CS.Stanford.EDU Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi all .... I'll apologize in advance for the (somewhat of a) tirade which follows --- not directed to anyone on the list, I'm just using what Michael said as a springboard for some thoughts - no offense to the members of the list is intended! =8^) Michael writes: > You're absolutely right. There is a great deal of good within > religions. And I am aware that many people aren't equipped to > navigate much of the world without it but, it is how much influence it > has on the collective that irks me. Thomas Jefferson was a brilliant > man and he was positively fierce about the separation of church and > state. I think that what is good about religions is that there is a sense of appreciation for life, and a sense that perhaps life's experiences are more than simply the mechanistic, "age of enlightenment" theories on what life (and now, with psychology, experience) is. Many make the distinction between spirituality and religion, though sometimes the difference is fuzzy. In general, though, religion is "handed down" from a book, a priest, a power structure, and direct knowledge of god/dess is denied to the masses, available only from the elite of the power structure. Spirituality is the awe and respect for life which is *sometimes* engendered by some religions at some points in time; it is individual, and known for oneself - no one hands it down or acts as intermediary or guru. Though people can learn things about spirituality from one another, it ultimately must be felt and experienced. Religion, because it is structured hierarchically, is open to abuse. So, however, are many ideas which are related to both spirituality and religion. Although it is comforting to focus on a life beyond this one, ultimately one must respect and honor embodied life, *this* life that one is living right now. Beliefs which try to blame circumstances upon transgression (either in this life or a prior one) tend to ignore the fact that we are all inter-related. "Blaming the victim" mentality of some doctrines based on Karma tend to give a false sense that all is "right with the world" -- it is just Karma being worked out. The concept of "God's Will" works much the same way. > Any idea how many people we incarcerate in America for > concensual crimes? Crimes that hurt no one but (possibly) the person > doing them. (You know, drug use, etc.) There are so many > implications here I won't even get into it but suffice it to say, > religion is exactly like a drug. It helps an ignorant person cope. > Drugs, unlike religion are adverse to capitalism and so, we the people > think of the status quo. Why are drugs adverse to capitalism? Capitalism always needs a scapegoat, an *other* on which to blame the ills and to justify paying shit wages to... what better than "illegal aliens", drug users, unwed mothers, "radicals", "commies", uneducated and "lazy" people all "deserve" low wages, no benefits, etc., so that the "rest of us" can have "decent" wages, health care, education, and a smugness that "we are better". Without these "low lifes" in work-welfare programs, prison work, etc., the businessman couldn't afford his BMW. Without actively denying the worth of a human being for her or his own sake, we couldn't get them to work their butts off to make some CEO rich. > But in fact capitalism has wreaked as much > harm as it has done good, at least. If it were not for capitalism, we might not be in the ecological crisis we are now. Of course, other systems support greed and oppression just as much as capitalism -- some (like dictatorships) are more honest about what the effect is. Capitialism is a dictatorship of the cash. If you doubt it, look at the different daily decisions that a homeless person makes vs. the daily decisions of someone like Bill Gates... > Geez, I sound radical (and I'm not, really). "Radical" means "at the root" - hence "radical feminism" attempts to see what is the root cause of women's issues are. Looking deep at any problem makes you a "radical" with respect to that problem. Looking deep at capitalism or ecology will make you a radical. > Anyway, I very much > appreciated Marcus' comments. I'm in favor of a life with meaning. > We are noble creatures and a noble species. We're still very young > though. I suggest for the good of all life that we grow up quickly... -Richard. @ \@/ Richard A. Holmes (rholmes@cs.stanford.edu) @ | @ \|/ " 'The Book of History has many missing pages' @ | Murmurs the Madonna of the Middle Ages @ , , | , , But in between her cracks you can read between the lines @ ' ' ' ' ' She'd love nothing better than to rob the Louvre blind @ Baroque and complicated, her lovers never stay @ It looks like Mona Lisa is having a bad day... " @ - Michelle Shocked, "Looks Like Mona Lisa.." (on Captain Swing) @ @ Kiva / Kate Price \ Dar Williams / Renaissance \ Sheila Chandra / Laura Love @ Susan McKeown \ Sarah McLachlan / Libana \ Danielle Dax \ Dog Faced Hermans @ Loreena McKennitt / Kate Bush \ Tori Amos / Katell Keineg / Happy Rhodes @ Ingrid Karklins \ Sinead O'Connor / Jane Siberry / Pauline Oliveros From jitr-owner Tue Sep 2 10:17:15 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA00927 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 10:17:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from Vansystems.com (server1.vansystems.com [206.181.241.99]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id KAA00922 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 10:17:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill_J_DeLaney@Vansystems.com Received: by Vansystems.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.05 (274.9 11-27-1996)) id 85256506.005F757B ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 13:22:39 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: DOMAIN1 To: jitr@postmodern.com Message-ID: <85256506.005F4D0F.00@Vansystems.com> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 13:22:36 -0400 Subject: Removal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Please advise how I can be removed from this list as well. Billy From jitr-owner Tue Sep 2 10:41:15 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA01048 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 10:41:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: (from mcb@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA01019; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 10:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199709021740.KAA01019@server.postmodern.com> From: mcb@postmodern.com (Michael C. Berch) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 10:40:27 +0000 In-Reply-To: <85256506.005F4D0F.00@Vansystems.com> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: jitr Subject: Re: Removal Cc: Bill_J_DeLaney@Vansystems.com Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ To be removed from the jitr (or jitr-digest) list, send the message unsubscribe jitr or unsubscribe jitr-digest in the body (not subject) of a message to majordomo@postmodern.com. -- Michael C. Berch jitr list owner mcb@postmodern.com From jitr-owner Tue Sep 2 11:44:57 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id LAA01298 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 11:44:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from emout03.mail.aol.com (emout03.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.94]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id LAA01291 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 11:44:36 -0700 (PDT) From: DNYC20@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout03.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id OAA06603 for jitr@postmodern.com; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 14:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 14:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970902144215_1193457499@emout03.mail.aol.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: PBS Special Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I heard on the radio today that Sinead will be recording a PBS special today on 54th St. somewhere in NYC. I am just 4 blocks away. Z100 was the radio station. They were giving tickets away on the radio. dondi From jitr-owner Tue Sep 2 14:18:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id OAA01759 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 14:18:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from is4.nyu.edu (IS4.NYU.EDU [128.122.253.137]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id OAA01754 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 14:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by is4.nyu.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/26Mar96-0600PM) id AA19329; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 17:17:56 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 17:17:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Charlie Baltimore To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: jitr-digest V3 #225 In-Reply-To: <199709021702.KAA00716@server.postmodern.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I'm sure this question has been addressed before, but I've only been on the list for a few months. What's a "Mandinka?" Kevin From jitr-owner Tue Sep 2 14:51:57 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id OAA01856 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 14:51:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from unix.horizontes.com.br (unix.horizontes.com.br [200.238.226.6]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id OAA01845 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 14:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from default (line075.horizontes.com.br [200.238.226.205]) by unix.horizontes.com.br (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA19167; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 18:46:23 -0300 Message-ID: <340C8A69.53DA@horiz.com.br> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 18:51:37 -0300 From: "newskria@horiz.com.br" Reply-To: newskria@horiz.com.br X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charlie Baltimore CC: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: jitr-digest V3 #225 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Charlie Baltimore wrote: > > I'm sure this question has been addressed before, but I've only been on > the list for a few months. What's a "Mandinka?" > > Kevin > > I don't know in English... in Portuguese this word is referred to a kind of vodoo.... It's probably from the African slaves in Brazil so it may be used in other languages as well with the same meaning.... To do a mandinka is then do a kind of vodoo in order to get some result from it.... don't know if it helps... I thought about htis and I can't really conect this meaning to the song.... other explanation will be throughly appreciated by me as well!!! Christiane (Brazil) -- ************************************************************************ >you could wait for your dreams to come true > but time has no mercy > time won't stand still for you (B.Adams) ************************************************************************ From jitr-owner Tue Sep 2 15:33:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id PAA02195 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 15:33:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail0.tor.acc.ca (mail0.tor.acc.ca [204.92.54.110]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id PAA02190 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 15:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [142.154.17.161] (ppp-161.m2-3.tor.ican.net [142.154.17.161]) by mail0.tor.acc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA07400 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 18:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 18:36:40 -0400 To: jitr@server.postmodern.com From: 699738@ican.net (Kevin Aiello) Subject: Sinead's last concert (Toronto) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Sinead's last concert of the present tour was performed last night at Toronto's Massey Hall. As I expected, Sinead dedicated the show to the victims of the tragic accident in Paris. The last song of the encore ("He Moved Through the Fair") was specifically dedicated to Diana Spencer and her performance was altogether spellbinding. The way she held the last note of the last word of the song was truly stunning. Also, the audience was great: the applause after each song was extremely enthusiastic and long-lasting and that was great to hear. (In fact, at the end of the show, when Sinead told the audience this was the last song of the night, a collective sound of dismay was expressed! Sinead reminded the audience that the show had to end and that she had to go back to being a mom in two days!) She was dressed quite casually in dull-colored clothes and, as with other reports from earlier in the tour I have read off of the internet, she did not move a great deal from one central spot on the stage. Personally, I thought that the "loud" songs had something of a muddy, boomy sound but, despite this, the musicians (especially the cellist and the guitarist) played superbly throughout the show. The sound on the songs with a sparse arrangement (or no band at all) was, however, more-or-less perfect. The highlights for me were the following songs: "Perfect Indian" (my all-time favorite Sinead O'Connor song) was performed in absolutely flawless fashion, a true vocal masterpiece; "John I Love You" was dedicated to the band she said she would very much miss and was performed to perfection as well; "Thank You For Hearing Me" was greeted with great enthusiasm from the audience and was very good; "Tiny Grief Song" was as flawless as "Perfect Indian" and the ensemble singing of the Screaming Orphans worked perfectly here: everybody in the place was spellbound by this performance; "Redemption Song" was sung beautifully; "Last Day of Our Acquaintance" was both a crowd favorite as well as being a showcase for the talents of both Sinead and her band. All in all, the show expressed in its finest moments the incomparable artistry of Sinead O'Connor and that, of course, is something to see. kfa, Toronto From jitr-owner Tue Sep 2 15:36:11 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id PAA02250 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 15:36:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from winnie.fit.edu (winnie.fit.edu [163.118.5.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id PAA02243 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 15:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mshea@localhost) by winnie.fit.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA01508 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 18:28:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 18:28:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Shea To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Boston Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I called my best friend this weekend to get his review of Sinead's show at Harborlights in Boston last week, and he told me that she sang two songs from "The Lion and the Cobra": "Just Call Me Joe" "Drink Before the War" Having read the set list from all the shows this summer (that have been posted here), I didn't really believe him and I thought he must have been mistaken. But he does know Sinead's music very well, and he said that "Drink Before the War" was the highlight in his opinion. Can anyone corroborate this? Did anyone make it to the Boston show??? -Mark, Sinead-less in Florida :( From jitr-owner Tue Sep 2 15:54:12 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id PAA02355 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 15:54:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id PAA02350 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 15:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.7.6/BZS-8-1.0) id SAA22721; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 18:53:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA00963; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 18:53:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 18:53:23 -0400 From: eliz@world.std.com (Elizabeth Lear) Message-Id: <199709022253.AA00963@world.std.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Boston Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I was at the Boston show. "The Lion and the Cobra" is one of my all-time favorite albums, and I'm the one who transcribed 95% of the LatC lyrics for the Sinead archives. She did not perform any song from that album at this concert. ...eliz From jitr-owner Tue Sep 2 17:16:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id RAA02679 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 17:16:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from hitchhike.cybertours.com (ns2.cyberTours.com [205.139.4.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id RAA02674 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 17:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ceb (kenn020-149.cyberTours.com [206.98.57.149]) by hitchhike.cybertours.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id UAA21725 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 20:15:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <340CABB3.7ABA@cybertours.com> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 20:13:39 -0400 From: marcus brown Reply-To: elm@cybertours.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: more columbia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ At work today, up on a roof. Radio playing down below, almost out of earshot. Bumper says "here's another song from the w--- new music file. I could understand that because i've heard it so often. Song starts. My ears peark up. sounds like "this is to mother you", think's i. i get excited. move to the other side of the roof to confirm or deny. NO...it's the new sarah mcglaclin.(sp) i've got nothing against her, mind you. But i got thinking. Is columbia going to push this rerelease in the u.s. more than EMI? I personally haven't heard a sinead on Maine radio in six years. O.K. granted it is maine radio, but still. columbia is lauded for signing sinead. it seems that her stateside sales for emi in the last few years couldn't have been very good. for columbia to sign her when they haven't pushed other artists who don't have massive recognition or whathave you, in the past is interesting to me. i am confident sinead could gain a large u.s. following again. Time does heal many wounds. Time will tell, also, weather her new record co. will be more agressive than her last From jitr-owner Tue Sep 2 20:46:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id UAA03192 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 20:46:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca (bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca [128.100.132.16]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id UAA03187 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 20:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from log3 ([128.100.100.195]) by bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca with SMTP id <159860(8)>; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 23:45:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 23:45:18 -0400 From: suzy.aston@utoronto.ca X-Sender: 04318467@log3 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: More of the Toronto show Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello everyone, I'll try to keep it brief but I just wanted to add a couple of cents to the first show I saw of Sinead. First of all, I was most impressed with the audience. You could hear a pin drop during her performance (in fact, during Perfect Indian, my friend sneezed and I'm sure Sinead heard) however, as mentioned, the audience was stunning after each song, a round of applause that had Sinead saying thankyou several times over as well as a mini curtsee (ew sp??). She seemed extremely relaxed and happy. She was enjoying her night making jokes with the crew (where I was sitting I could see all the antics going on off to the side of the stage). Another note, she didn't play tiny grief song. The set list was exactly the same except....He moved through the fair was changed to _She_ moved through the fair as it was dedicated to Diana and, I will confess, I had never thought too much of that song and i questioned why she put it on the album as I though ON Raglan Road would have been a much better candidate, however, her performance last night was...incredible - it was sung softly and beautifully (with only one clearing of the throat near the end). She made a lot of dedications throughout the show - she dedicated "Thankyou for hearing me" to the audience, and changed one of the "thankyou for loving me"s to a "thanks for hte bracelet you gave" or something like that - it was cute :) I loved the performance - I think it was one of the most special I have seen in a while. It has given me a new impression of Sinead. Another note - it seemed her voice was impeccable (hm, I think my spelling is off this late night!) - as Fire on Babylon was the best I've ever heard out of all the bootlegs I have with that song. I believe she forgot a verse in This is the last day of our acquaintance, as she didn't sing her "you were no life raft to me" verse and after singing (instead) this is the last day... verse she put her hand to her mouth and looked surprised at her band mates...I don't know maybe it was for another reason, as musicians, they covered it up smoothly and the audience didn't have a clue. Okay so I managed to make this long... On Much Music today it was mentioned that she did a live performance in the "environment" on Sunday (damn having to work on that day!) and it will be re-broadcasted (phew!) If anyone has any info on times could they please let the list know? and I'll do my best in finding out as well :) Thanks for hearing me folks, Suzy From jitr-owner Tue Sep 2 21:01:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id VAA03303 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 21:01:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from m10.boston.juno.com (m10.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.195]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id VAA03298 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 21:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from champignon@juno.com) by m10.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id XrK04626; Tue, 02 Sep 1997 23:59:02 EDT To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 23:42:03 -0400 Subject: mandinka Message-ID: <19970903.000027.11654.5.champignon@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.38 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-8,12-17,20-26,29-33,35-38,40-45,47-54,58-63 From: champignon@juno.com (kristina m spurgin) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ i had wondered what mandinka meant as well and now the song makes a lot more sense to me...here's my interp, just shooting from the hip...(lyrics off the mars-l sinead page) I'm dancing the seven veils Want you to pick up my scarf See how the black moon fades Soon I can give you my heart -sounds like spell work to me...ritual dances, the depositing of an object infused with the spellworker's energy in the path of the "spellee" so he will pick it up, attention to the phases of the moon...definitely love magic I don't know no shame I feel no pain I can't see the flame -don't know anything about this particular brand of magick, but i know a lot of magick involves trance, which often render the worker impervious to pain...candles and fire are very prominent in magick as well But I do know Man-din-ka I do know Man-din-ka I do know Man-din-ka I do -perhaps "they" are practicing different form of magick, trying to justify it as the correct way because it is the oldest & therefore purest form... They're throwing it all this way Dragging it back to the start -perhaps trying to prove this is the right path of magick by showing the physical manifestations of its work -telekinesis...- And they say, "See how the glass is raised?" -that line has always sounded very threatening to me, kind of like do it our way or we'll spill it on you. I have refused to take part I told them "drink something new" Please let me pull something through the pull something through part sounds like channelling or the practice of being "ridden" by the spirits in voudoun/voodoo... I do Mandinka Soon I can give you my heart Soon I can give you my heart Soon I can give you my heart -i do magick to bring you to me so i can give you my heart? so that's my humble interpretation...thanks for the info...i accidentally deleted the posting with the definition of mandinka in it, so i forgot who sent it in... "whatever it may bring i will live by my own policies i will sleep with a clear conscience, i will sleep in peace." -sinead o'connor, the emporor's new clothes --kristina m spurgin--graphic design--painting--poems prose & wordplay From jitr-owner Wed Sep 3 01:48:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id BAA05825 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 01:48:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id BAA05820 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 01:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (ah74.pi.net [145.220.203.74]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA21044 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 10:47:39 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 10:47:39 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.16.19970903103050.09074498@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: anna@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (16) Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 10:30:50 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Eduard Verheijen Subject: LIVE STUFF!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello. As i mentioned here before i have a large list of sinead o'connor live concerts on audio and video. But when stroling through my music collection i found a lot of other artists/groups (like genesis, alanis morisetta, tracy bonham, loreena mckenneth, pink floyd, u2, bj=F6rk, tanita tikaram, suzanne vega, but then much more) of wich i had either audio or video concerts. I made a list of this but this jitr is not to right place to place it. If you are intrested in live concerts other then those from sinead please let me know and i mail you this list. It might be worthwile to take a look at it and if your fav. artists (except sinead ofcourse) is not there, simply delete it. Take care...eduard [anna@pi.net] From jitr-owner Wed Sep 3 01:48:53 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id BAA05848 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 01:48:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id BAA05841 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 01:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (ah74.pi.net [145.220.203.74]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA21274 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 10:48:19 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 10:48:19 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.16.19970903103448.0907888a@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: anna@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (16) Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 10:34:48 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Eduard Verheijen Subject: Short review from beligum show Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Found in a dutch music magazine this review on the folk-festival in dranouter, belgium (i was not there myself) On sinead's head is for a change hair growing (black) but further there are not much changes. De Irish singer moves to tears with a very folky concert with much songs from her latest gospel oak ep. After this briljant show we get the not so great NOA whio was misplaced at this concert A short review i know but a positiv one from a music magazine [oor] Eduard [anna@pi.net] From jitr-owner Wed Sep 3 04:00:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id EAA06081 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 04:00:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server.psion.com (mailhost.psion.com [194.129.1.253]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id EAA06076 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 04:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpgate.psion.com ([194.129.1.248]) by server.psion.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA159 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 11:55:28 +0100 Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.psion.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA873313013; Wed, 03 Sep 97 11:43:42 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Sep 97 11:43:42 GMT From: "Mandy Green" Message-Id: <9708038733.AA873313013@smtpgate.psion.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com, Charlie Baltimore Subject: Re[2]: jitr-digest V3 #225 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi I recall something about this being the name of an African tribe - The Mandinkas. If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me ;) Mandy ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: jitr-digest V3 #225 Author: Charlie Baltimore at INTERNET Date: 03/09/97 11:34 I'm sure this question has been addressed before, but I've only been on the list for a few months. What's a "Mandinka?" Kevin From jitr-owner Wed Sep 3 04:29:22 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id EAA06178 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 04:29:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server.psion.com (mailhost.psion.com [194.129.1.253]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id EAA06173 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 04:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpgate.psion.com ([194.129.1.248]) by server.psion.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA197; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 12:18:56 +0100 Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.psion.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA873312804; Wed, 03 Sep 97 11:43:42 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Sep 97 11:43:42 GMT From: "Mandy Green" Message-Id: <9708038733.AA873312804@smtpgate.psion.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com, Charlie Baltimore Subject: Re[2]: jitr-digest V3 #225 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi I recall something about this being the name of an African tribe - The Mandinkas. If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me ;) Mandy ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: jitr-digest V3 #225 Author: Charlie Baltimore at INTERNET Date: 03/09/97 11:34 I'm sure this question has been addressed before, but I've only been on the list for a few months. What's a "Mandinka?" Kevin From jitr-owner Wed Sep 3 04:36:53 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id EAA06237 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 04:36:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server.psion.com (mailhost.psion.com [194.129.1.253]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id EAA06227 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 04:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpgate.psion.com ([194.129.1.248]) by server.psion.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA190; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 12:27:37 +0100 Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.psion.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA873315132; Wed, 03 Sep 97 12:23:34 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Sep 97 12:23:34 GMT From: "Mandy Green" Message-Id: <9708038733.AA873315132@smtpgate.psion.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com, suzy.aston@utoronto.ca Subject: Re: More of the Toronto show Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Re Last Day - Not sure why Sinead has taken to omitting the "you were no life raft to me" section of this song, as this additional verse was what made the song stand out in past live performances. But it has to be said that she has taken to singing a softer version of what was once a "fuck off" angry song, so maybe that's why this verse is now left out - so that it fits in with the mellower mood. Mandy From jitr-owner Wed Sep 3 04:37:01 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id EAA06247 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 04:37:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server.psion.com (mailhost.psion.com [194.129.1.253]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id EAA06228 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 04:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpgate.psion.com ([194.129.1.248]) by server.psion.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA73 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 12:27:38 +0100 Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.psion.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA873315135; Wed, 03 Sep 97 12:23:34 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Sep 97 12:23:34 GMT From: "Mandy Green" Message-Id: <9708038733.AA873315135@smtpgate.psion.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com, suzy.aston@utoronto.ca Subject: Re: More of the Toronto show Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Re Last Day - Not sure why Sinead has taken to omitting the "you were no life raft to me" section of this song, as this additional verse was what made the song stand out in past live performances. But it has to be said that she has taken to singing a softer version of what was once a "fuck off" angry song, so maybe that's why this verse is now left out - so that it fits in with the mellower mood. Mandy From jitr-owner Wed Sep 3 04:49:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id EAA06338 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 04:49:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server.psion.com (mailhost.psion.com [194.129.1.253]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id EAA06333 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 04:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpgate.psion.com ([194.129.1.248]) by server.psion.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA190 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 12:43:32 +0100 Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.psion.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA873316091; Wed, 03 Sep 97 12:39:02 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Sep 97 12:39:02 GMT From: "Mandy Green" Message-Id: <9708038733.AA873316091@smtpgate.psion.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: message for Janet - SORRY TO USE JITR Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Janet I've lost your email address - please send it to me again asap! Thanks a lot - SORRY TO THE OTHER JITRs!! Mandy From jitr-owner Wed Sep 3 05:19:36 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id FAA06433 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 05:19:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from Harpercollins.com (firewall2.harpercollins.com [206.15.115.125]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id FAA06427 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 05:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scr-imagateway.harpercollins.com ([128.2.1.58]) by firewall2.harpercollins.com with SMTP id <36865>; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:02:45 -0400 Received: from ccMail by scr-imagateway.harpercollins.com (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 00068501; Wed, 3 Sep 97 08:17:00 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:17:45 -0400 Message-ID: <00068501.1311@harpercollins.com> From: Jeffery.Mcgraw@harpercollins.com (Jeffery Mcgraw) Subject: Etcetera To: jitr@postmodern.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Just a few points of interest: 1. I totally agree with Claudia's assessment of celebrity photographs. I much prefer studio shots to those ugly flash-in-the-pan ones taken in the street. 2. We all love you Mandy, but why in the hell do I keep getting double messages from you??? When I log on at work in the morning and I read that I have 42 messages, I know it's really only 30 or so... Help!!! 3. Any news on THE BUTCHER BOY? Thanks, jeffery From jitr-owner Wed Sep 3 06:08:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id GAA06554 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 06:08:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server.psion.com (mailhost.psion.com [194.129.1.253]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id GAA06549 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 06:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpgate.psion.com ([194.129.1.248]) by server.psion.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA260 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 14:03:35 +0100 Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.psion.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA873320898; Wed, 03 Sep 97 14:00:50 GMT Date: Wed, 03 Sep 97 14:00:50 GMT From: "Mandy Green" Message-Id: <9708038733.AA873320898@smtpgate.psion.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: SEEING DOUBLE 88-) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi I know I've had a bad start on the jitr - what with blank messages and everything appearing twice. With Michael Berch's and Marcel's help I was able to rectify the blank message problem, however I have no idea why my messages appear twice. I KNOW how annoying this is as I get repeated messages too. Believe me, if I could solve this, then I would do so immediately - the last thing I want to be is a pain in the arse!! On another note, this will unfortunately be one of my last messages to the list for a while, as it's a company email/internet package and I'm leaving this job on Friday, so having no PC at home means no more access to jitr for a while :-( I'll miss the regular updates, news, discussions - it's been a brief but nonetheless enjoyable email exchange. As soon as I have access to email I'll resubscribe, but for now it's farewell. Thanks to everyone for their valued input - especially the recent US/Canadian concert reviews. Best wishes Mandy From jitr-owner Wed Sep 3 08:15:23 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id IAA07077 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:15:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from csx.cciw.ca (csx.cciw.ca [192.75.68.4]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id IAA07072 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from l203-4.cciw.ca by csx.cciw.ca; Wed, 3 Sep 97 11:15:02 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19970903111631.008be370@charon.cciw.ca> X-Sender: oskar@charon.cciw.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 11:16:31 -0400 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Oskar Resler Subject: Toronto Tidbit Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ A "CBC Newsworld" film crew taped the performance of "This Is To Mother You". According to the crew, it should/may air on a program called "On The Arts" (8:30 PM Thursdays Sept. 4, and repeated numerous times i.e. 12:30 & 4:30 AM Friday, Saturday Morning). --- Oskar Oskar.Resler@CCIW.ca From jitr-owner Wed Sep 3 08:36:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id IAA07156 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:36:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from unix.horizontes.com.br (unix.horizontes.com.br [200.238.226.6]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id IAA07149 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from default (line225.horizontes.com.br [200.238.213.239]) by unix.horizontes.com.br (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA22318; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 12:32:35 -0300 Message-ID: <340D771F.246@horiz.com.br> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 11:41:35 -0300 From: "newskria@horiz.com.br" Reply-To: newskria@horiz.com.br X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mandy Green CC: jitr@postmodern.com, suzy.aston@utoronto.ca Subject: Re: More of the Toronto show References: <9708038733.AA873315132@smtpgate.psion.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Mandy Green wrote: > > Re Last Day - Not sure why Sinead has taken to omitting the "you were no > life raft to me" section of this song, as this additional verse was what > made the song stand out in past live performances. But it has to be said > that she has taken to singing a softer version of what was once a "fuck > off" angry song, so maybe that's why this verse is now left out - so that > it fits in with the mellower mood. > > Mandy DOES someone has the lyrics for this bit??? I could never get it.... Irish accent is TOO dificult for me.... Christiane (Brazil) -- ************************************************************************ >you could wait for your dreams to come true > but time has no mercy > time won't stand still for you (B.Adams) ************************************************************************ http://members.wbs.net/homepages/k/r/i/krikaa.html From jitr-owner Wed Sep 3 09:33:54 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id JAA07292 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 09:33:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail0.tor.acc.ca (mail0.tor.acc.ca [204.92.54.110]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id JAA07287 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 09:33:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [142.154.21.194] (ppp-194.m2-6.tor.ican.net [142.154.21.194]) by mail0.tor.acc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA23144 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 12:33:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 12:36:45 -0400 To: jitr@server.postmodern.com From: 699738@ican.net (Kevin Aiello) Subject: Re: More of the Toronto show (correction) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ > >Another note, she didn't play tiny grief song. I meant to type "In This Heart" but made a mistake...I thank Suzy for correcting me here. Therefore the statement in my original message should read as follows: "Tiny Grief Song" was as flawless as "Perfect Indian" and the ensemble singing of the Screaming Orphans worked perfectly here: everybody in the place was spellbound by this performance; I'm sure Suzy will agree with me about the performance, though! kfa, Toronto From jitr-owner Wed Sep 3 10:41:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA07669 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 10:41:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id KAA07664 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 10:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm3-41.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.172]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA00361 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 19:41:20 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970903194018.00773ac8@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 19:40:18 +0200 To: JITR From: Mars-L Subject: Thought the concerts where over ??? NOPE !!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Thought the concerts where over now ??? Nope, there seems to be a new one; Sinead Will be playing at Dublin's Point Depot on September 8 with Ron Sexsmith (?) and Screaming Orphans as support, according to an add in Hotpress 20 August 97 (Volume 21 # 16) She is the opening concert for a series of "Irish" singers in concert including Mary Black, Christy Moore, Clannad and many more. (information handed to me by; Louise) THANX ! --------- M A R S - L ------------------------------------------------- Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor Page - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead.htm - FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE -------------- From jitr-owner Wed Sep 3 11:10:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id LAA07809 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 11:10:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Xenon.Stanford.EDU [171.64.64.24]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id LAA07804 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 11:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rholmes@localhost) by Xenon.Stanford.EDU (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA13645; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 11:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 11:10:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Holmes Message-Id: <199709031810.LAA13645@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Mandinka (was Re: Re[2]: jitr-digest V3 #225) Cc: rholmes@CS.Stanford.EDU Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ From Mandy-Green@psion.com Wed Sep 3 04:51:05 1997 X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Date: Wed, 03 Sep 97 11:43:42 GMT From: "Mandy Green" To: jitr@postmodern.com, Charlie Baltimore Subject: Re[2]: jitr-digest V3 #225 X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Mandy writes: > I recall something about this being the name of an African tribe - The > Mandinkas. If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me ;) Mandinka is indeed a tribe in West Africa, and their language is also called "Mandinka" - so one who knows the language would "know Mandinka". Not necessarily what Sinead meant by the song, though. I don't know anything about the tribe so I can't speak to the magical considerations, but one can probably assume there was something akin to shaminism in the tribe. There are some percussion recordings available of Mandinka artists; a web search would bring some up. @ \@/ Richard A. Holmes (rholmes@cs.stanford.edu) @ | @ \|/ "Women, whose wisdom is in dreams, @ | Where do I go to find images of Woman, Woman made... @ , , | , , Our Wisdom can not be lost, our spirits can not be broken @ ' ' ' ' ' Women, I'm calling you, calling you... @ Awaken to your power... " @ @ - Sheila Chandra, "La Sagesse (Women, I'm Calling You)" @ @ Kiva / Kate Price \ Dar Williams / Renaissance \ Sheila Chandra / Laura Love @ Susan McKeown \ Sarah McLachlan / Libana \ Danielle Dax \ Dog Faced Hermans @ Loreena McKennitt / Kate Bush \ Tori Amos / Katell Keineg / Happy Rhodes @ Ingrid Karklins \ Sinead O'Connor / Jane Siberry / Pauline Oliveros From jitr-owner Wed Sep 3 13:20:50 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id NAA08310 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 13:20:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from emout03.mail.aol.com (emout03.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.94]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id NAA08305 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 13:20:38 -0700 (PDT) From: IamThatAmI@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout03.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id QAA21687 for jitr@postmodern.com; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 16:19:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 16:19:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970903161630_1188384261@emout03.mail.aol.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: ~Mandinka~ Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Dear Friends, The word "Mandinka" is an African word, but more than just a word, its a People, a tribe, a tribe found in The Ancient Villages of Mali, near Gambia....Anyway 2 the'point..The Mandinka are especially known for their "music" they are traditional historians, praise singers, master musicians. Well, I dont know if this helps any, but at least we know the true meaning of the "word" Mandinka :- ) I just wanted to add, I was at the Los Angeles Concert, and it was my "first time" seeing Sinead *live, in person*.....I have only waited all my life to see her :- ), Well, the concert was beyond greatness, and it definately etched in my soul a permanent memory.....I was very near the stage 11th row, I wanted to jump up and scream "I love you" or something, but I sat there silent and still listening to the most beautiful sound I've ever heard....well, just had to get that out, 2 someone that might understand how I be feelin :- ) *Jeff From jitr-owner Wed Sep 3 15:03:34 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id PAA08544 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 15:03:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail0.tor.acc.ca (mail0.tor.acc.ca [204.92.54.110]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id PAA08539 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 15:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [142.154.21.194] (ppp-235.m2-5.tor.ican.net [142.154.17.235]) by mail0.tor.acc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA09370 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 18:03:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 18:06:38 -0400 To: jitr@server.postmodern.com From: 699738@ican.net (Kevin Aiello) Subject: More of the Toronto show (re-correction) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ [Oops...again...I was in a hurry when I sent this correction and now I see I didn't type it right. I have corrected it again, just for the sake of accuracy, so here it is. Ignore my first "correction."] > >Another note, she didn't play tiny grief song. I meant to type "In This Heart" but made a mistake...I thank Suzy for correcting me here. Therefore the statement in my original message should read as follows: "In This Heart" was as flawless as "Perfect Indian" and the ensemble singing of the Screaming Orphans worked perfectly here: everybody in the place was spellbound by this performance; kfa, Toronto From jitr-owner Wed Sep 3 15:46:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id PAA08701 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 15:46:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from emout02.mail.aol.com (emout02.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.93]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id PAA08696 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 15:46:13 -0700 (PDT) From: MedicalArt@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout02.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id SAA26647 for jitr@postmodern.com; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 18:45:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 18:45:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970903184422_1121078492@emout02.mail.aol.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re:Mandinka Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Mandinka is from the novel "ROOTS" is it not? From jitr-owner Wed Sep 3 18:03:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id SAA09082 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 18:03:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from emout04.mail.aol.com (emout04.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.95]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id SAA09077 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 18:03:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Gogobooty3@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA26141 for jitr@postmodern.com; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 21:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 21:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970903210129_418847011@emout04.mail.aol.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: mandinka/mandingo Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ just wanna make sure no one is confusing MANDINKA (sinead song which refers to...?) and the cheesy pulp novel of the 70s called MANDINGO (which was about some happy slave & the white woman who loved him). cheers! claudia From jitr-owner Wed Sep 3 19:41:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id TAA09284 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 19:41:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from norway.it.earthlink.net (norway-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.49]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id TAA09279 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 19:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 207.217.24.72 (pool072-max8.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.24.72]) by norway.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA26064 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 19:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <340DB128.4398@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 18:49:12 +0000 From: Michael Reply-To: mikeljj@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Richard Holmes' thoughts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ In response to Richard A. Holmes, I had a couple of things I wanted to mention. I hope you are all not getting terribly sick of this stuff. Richard, you are correct. Drug use is not adverse to capitalism. Much like a tennis tournament (I'm watching the US Open right now), or any competition, it "needs," losers. You can't have winners without losers. And capitalism is a competitive system which puts production (work) far ahead of any other aspect of life. We are becoming a very strange species. So no, drug use is not adverse to capitalism. It may actually be integral. In the '60s the famous people who were turning on and tuning out spoke of "getting real," and "expanding their minds." It may be that drug use does aid in the expanding of one's mind. It may be more conducive to *real* learning than sobriety. But, it wouldn't seem to encourage the automaton mentality so prevalent in today's work force. It makes people lazy and apathetic. Perhaps what it really does is make them feel completely stultified by the impotence of the individual. In either case, Baudelaire once wrote that we should pray for a man like Edgar Allen Poe who sought solace in the debauchery of wine because "he saw, and he knew." I think what he was saying was that when you "see and know," you are removed from the state of blissful ignorance. Drug use isn't a contract with knowledge by any means but it certainly doesn't seem to be akin to production. That's it. Thanks for your input Richard. I think you "see and know." Michael From jitr-owner Wed Sep 3 21:55:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id VAA09499 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 21:55:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from emout01.mail.aol.com (emout01.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.92]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id VAA09494 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 21:55:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Carcky@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout01.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id AAA27491 for jitr@postmodern.com; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 00:54:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 00:54:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970904005445_825314476@emout01.mail.aol.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: sinead on restaurant's satellite Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Just a note to say that when I was sitting in a restaurant on the Oregon coast two weeks ago, I heard "This is to Mother You" on their music satellite. My jaw dropped. I don't really listen to the radio, so I don't know know if it's being played, but my husband listens to several stations and he's never heard it. Is it getting airtime? It's on a satellite station somewhere. -erin From jitr-owner Thu Sep 4 05:16:02 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id FAA12159 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 05:16:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server.psion.com (mailhost.psion.com [194.129.1.253]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id FAA12150 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 05:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpgate.psion.com ([194.129.1.248]) by server.psion.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA269 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 13:10:20 +0100 Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.psion.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA873403592; Thu, 04 Sep 97 12:51:45 GMT Date: Thu, 04 Sep 97 12:51:45 GMT From: "Mandy Green" Message-Id: <9708048734.AA873403592@smtpgate.psion.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Another Toronto Sun review Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Here's a review of Sinead's recent Toronto concert from the Toronto Sun:- http://paddle4.canoe.ca/JamConcertsL2Q/oconnor_s_010997.html Mandy From jitr-owner Thu Sep 4 07:05:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id HAA12342 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 07:05:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca (bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca [128.100.132.16]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id HAA12337 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 07:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from log3 ([128.100.100.195]) by bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca with SMTP id <159789(2)>; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 10:04:26 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 10:04:24 -0400 From: suzy.aston@utoronto.ca X-Sender: 04318467@log3 To: Oskar Resler cc: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Toronto Tidbit In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19970903111631.008be370@charon.cciw.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ > A "CBC Newsworld" film crew taped the performance of "This Is To Mother You". > According to the crew, it should/may air on a program called "On The Arts" > (8:30 PM Thursdays Sept. 4, and repeated numerous times i.e. 12:30 & 4:30 > AM Friday, Saturday Morning). Hello, would this be on the newsworld channel then? or on regular cbc? and is this time eastern? Suzy From jitr-owner Thu Sep 4 07:29:39 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id HAA12471 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 07:29:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server.psion.com (mailhost.psion.com [194.129.1.253]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id HAA12466 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 07:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpgate.psion.com ([194.129.1.248]) by server.psion.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA219 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:42:01 +0100 Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.psion.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA873409592; Thu, 04 Sep 97 14:38:09 GMT Date: Thu, 04 Sep 97 14:38:09 GMT From: "Mandy Green" Message-Id: <9708048734.AA873409592@smtpgate.psion.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Mike Ross's review of 8 August in the Edmonton Sun Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Um, I hadn't read the review before I mailed the URL - suffice it to say that, now that I have read the piece, the only good thing about it is the accompanying photo of Sinead (taken presumably whilst singing "Fire On Bablyon" from the look on her face ;))...Mr Ross obviously isn't a fan, but at least the photo's cool :-) Mandy From jitr-owner Thu Sep 4 08:08:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id IAA12581 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 08:08:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server.psion.com (mailhost.psion.com [194.129.1.253]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id IAA12575 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 08:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpgate.psion.com ([194.129.1.248]) by server.psion.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA187 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:51:08 +0100 Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.psion.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA873403136; Thu, 04 Sep 97 12:40:26 GMT Date: Thu, 04 Sep 97 12:40:26 GMT From: "Mandy Green" Message-Id: <9708048734.AA873403136@smtpgate.psion.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: SINEAD INTERVIEW FROM 1 SEPT 1997 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi Check out the following URL for a Sinead Interview from 1.9.97 http://paddle4.canoe.ca/JamMusicArtistsL2Q/oconnor_sinead.html Best regards Mandy From jitr-owner Thu Sep 4 08:09:08 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id IAA12607 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 08:09:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server.psion.com (mailhost.psion.com [194.129.1.253]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id IAA12580 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 08:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpgate.psion.com ([194.129.1.248]) by server.psion.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA206 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:51:09 +0100 Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.psion.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA873403138; Thu, 04 Sep 97 12:47:21 GMT Date: Thu, 04 Sep 97 12:47:21 GMT From: "Mandy Green" Message-Id: <9708048734.AA873403138@smtpgate.psion.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: SINEAD REVIEW FROM TORONTO SUN Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello again before I go... Here's another URL from the Toronto Sun from 8 August:- http://paddle4.canoe.ca/JamConcertsL2Q/oconnor_s_080897.html Mandy From jitr-owner Thu Sep 4 08:13:50 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id IAA12677 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 08:13:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server.psion.com (mailhost.psion.com [194.129.1.253]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id IAA12672 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 08:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpgate.psion.com ([194.129.1.248]) by server.psion.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA89; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:51:33 +0100 Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.psion.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA873404319; Thu, 04 Sep 97 13:10:57 GMT Date: Thu, 04 Sep 97 13:10:57 GMT From: "Mandy Green" Message-Id: <9708048734.AA873404319@smtpgate.psion.com> To: newskria@horiz.com.br Cc: jitr@postmodern.com, suzy.aston@utoronto.ca Subject: Re[2]: More of the Toronto show Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Here you go :- "You were no life raft to me I drown in pain and misery You did nothing to stop me Now drown in your own self pity!" Mandy ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: More of the Toronto show Author: newskria@horiz.com.br at INTERNET Date: 04/09/97 13:03 Mandy Green wrote: > > Re Last Day - Not sure why Sinead has taken to omitting the "you were no > life raft to me" section of this song, as this additional verse was what > made the song stand out in past live performances. But it has to be said > that she has taken to singing a softer version of what was once a "fuck > off" angry song, so maybe that's why this verse is now left out - so that > it fits in with the mellower mood. > > Mandy DOES someone has the lyrics for this bit??? I could never get it.... Irish accent is TOO dificult for me.... Christiane (Brazil) -- ************************************************************************ >you could wait for your dreams to come true > but time has no mercy > time won't stand still for you (B.Adams) ************************************************************************ http://members.wbs.net/homepages/k/r/i/krikaa.html From jitr-owner Thu Sep 4 08:16:12 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id IAA12729 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 08:16:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server.psion.com (mailhost.psion.com [194.129.1.253]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id IAA12724 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 08:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpgate.psion.com ([194.129.1.248]) by server.psion.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA209; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:51:42 +0100 Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.psion.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA873404561; Thu, 04 Sep 97 13:10:57 GMT Date: Thu, 04 Sep 97 13:10:57 GMT From: "Mandy Green" Message-Id: <9708048734.AA873404561@smtpgate.psion.com> To: newskria@horiz.com.br Cc: jitr@postmodern.com, suzy.aston@utoronto.ca Subject: Re[2]: More of the Toronto show Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Here you go :- "You were no life raft to me I drown in pain and misery You did nothing to stop me Now drown in your own self pity!" Mandy ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: More of the Toronto show Author: newskria@horiz.com.br at INTERNET Date: 04/09/97 13:03 Mandy Green wrote: > > Re Last Day - Not sure why Sinead has taken to omitting the "you were no > life raft to me" section of this song, as this additional verse was what > made the song stand out in past live performances. But it has to be said > that she has taken to singing a softer version of what was once a "fuck > off" angry song, so maybe that's why this verse is now left out - so that > it fits in with the mellower mood. > > Mandy DOES someone has the lyrics for this bit??? I could never get it.... Irish accent is TOO dificult for me.... Christiane (Brazil) -- ************************************************************************ >you could wait for your dreams to come true > but time has no mercy > time won't stand still for you (B.Adams) ************************************************************************ http://members.wbs.net/homepages/k/r/i/krikaa.html From jitr-owner Thu Sep 4 11:35:11 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id LAA13522 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 11:35:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from edam.direct.ca (edam.direct.ca [199.60.229.6]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id LAA13517 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 11:35:03 -0700 (PDT) From: psikora@direct.ca Received: from van-52-0314.direct.ca (van-52-0314.direct.ca [204.174.240.110]) by edam.direct.ca (8.8.5/8.8.0) with SMTP id LAA17362; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 11:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199709041834.LAA17362@edam.direct.ca> X-Sender: psikora@direct.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 10:19:08 -0700 To: suzy.aston@utoronto.ca Subject: Re: Toronto Tidbit Cc: jitr@postmodern.com Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ >> A "CBC Newsworld" film crew taped the performance of "This Is To Mother You". >> According to the crew, it should/may air on a program called "On The Arts" >> (8:30 PM Thursdays Sept. 4, and repeated numerous times i.e. 12:30 & 4:30 >> AM Friday, Saturday Morning). > >Hello, would this be on the newsworld channel then? or on regular cbc? > >and is this time eastern? > >Suzy Hi! hope this helps: "Gilmour On the Arts" is on the Newsworld channel. since you're in the east, i can't really help you with program times. But, in case you or anyone else wants to know, here in Vancouver it airs: today at 5:30 pm and 9:30pm. and again the same night at 12:30am Friday- 7:30pm and 10:30pm Saturday- 10:30am and 9:30pm Sunday morning- 6:30am P.Y.H.O.M. From jitr-owner Thu Sep 4 16:51:07 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id QAA14849 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 16:51:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.33]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id QAA14835 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 16:50:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PC_icehouse.worldnet.att.net ([207.116.102.186]) by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA8722; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 23:49:42 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199709040800.BAA11690@server.postmodern.com> References: Conversation <199709040800.BAA11690@server.postmodern.com> with last message <199709040800.BAA11690@server.postmodern.com> Priority: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 To: jitr@postmodern.com, jitr-digest@server.postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "icehouse" Subject: Re: jitr-digest V3 #227 Date: Thu, 04 Sep 97 21:32:36 PDT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I Know I haven't had much success but I thought I'd try again since it = has been some time.... I have brand new copies of Dolores Oriordan's The Sun Does Rise (Cd singl= e with Jah Wobble) 12 dollars (includes postage) I also have Jah Wobble's Psalms and Rising Above BEdlam (with Sinead O'Co= nnor) both for just 15 dollars each (includes postage) Let me know if you are an interested party... Thanks Gordon From jitr-owner Thu Sep 4 17:16:11 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id RAA14976 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 17:16:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from usr09.primenet.com (root@usr09.primenet.com [206.165.6.209]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id RAA14966; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 17:15:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usr03.primenet.com (jjyoung@usr03.primenet.com [206.165.6.203]) by usr09.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA13641; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 17:15:50 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 17:15:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Johnnie Young To: icehouse cc: jitr@postmodern.com, jitr-digest@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: jitr-digest V3 #227 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I am interested. Do you live in the United States as far as postage is concerned? Because I live in California. Let me know... Johnnie J. Young jjyoung@primenet.com On Thu, 4 Sep 1997, icehouse wrote: > I Know I haven't had much success but I thought I'd try again since it has been some time.... > > I have brand new copies of Dolores Oriordan's The Sun Does Rise (Cd single with Jah Wobble) 12 dollars (includes postage) > > I also have Jah Wobble's Psalms and Rising Above BEdlam (with Sinead O'Connor) both for just 15 dollars each (includes postage) > > Let me know if you are an interested party... > Thanks > Gordon > > From jitr-owner Thu Sep 4 21:23:37 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id VAA15668 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 21:23:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from maui.net (hula.maui.net [206.154.205.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id VAA15663 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 21:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user.maui.net (m196.maui.net [206.154.206.196]) by maui.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA20427 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 18:23:07 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <340F8961.5DB4@toke.com> Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 18:24:01 -1000 From: Tax X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Celtic Moods Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Sinead and the Edge doing Heroine are on this "as seen on tv" cd...they had some kind of video playing in the back when they played it but I couldn't see it...anyone know if there is a video??? From jitr-owner Sat Sep 6 08:16:28 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id IAA24154 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 08:16:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id IAA24149 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 08:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm3-21.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.152]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA13857 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 17:15:43 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970906171453.0077a1a4@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 17:14:53 +0200 To: JITR From: Mars-L Subject: I AM NOT YOUR BABY (REAL AUDIO) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, To listen to/download the duet between Bono And Sinead entitled "I Am Not Your Baby" go to; http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead.htm It's a 676kB Real Audio File ! --------- M A R S - L ------------------------------------------------- Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor Page - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead.htm - FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE -------------- From jitr-owner Sat Sep 6 12:25:07 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id MAA24619 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 12:25:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id MAA24614 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 12:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm3-05.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.136]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA19497 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 21:24:48 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970906212401.0076cae4@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 21:24:01 +0200 To: JITR From: Mars-L Subject: JAPANESE THREE BABIES !!! FOR SALE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Surfing the net I found a great Japanese 3-inch (flip-pack) cd-single containing a sleeve picture I've never seen before on another cd-single or vinyl single. The cd costs just $9 so that isn't expensive, though postage costs $8 which makes it to expensive for me (knowing I already do have those songs) If you are interested or just wanna see the sleeve check; http://www.mediawars.or.jp/~mundo/collect/file/s-oconnor.html BTW; the bootlegs CD's (incl. the live ones) are still available. --------- M A R S - L ------------------------------------------------- Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor Page - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead.htm - FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE -------------- From jitr-owner Sat Sep 6 13:05:18 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id NAA24834 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 13:05:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from emout05.mail.aol.com (emout05.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.96]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id NAA24829 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 13:05:10 -0700 (PDT) From: DNYC20@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout05.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id QAA17535 for jitr@postmodern.com; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 16:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 16:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970906160436_1750507548@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: PBS Special Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Remember when I first posted about Sinead having a concert special in NYC a couple of weeks ago. You could have only won tickets on the radio. It will be airing on PBS on Oct. 11. Check you local listings for more info. Sheryl Crow, MeShell N'degeocello, Beck, Shawn Colvin and many many more will also have their own PBS special. For more info. check out www.sessionsatwest54th.com dondi From jitr-owner Sun Sep 7 03:47:02 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id DAA28075 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 03:47:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id DAA28070 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 03:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm3-12.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.143]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA09779 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 12:46:46 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970907124553.007791f8@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 12:45:53 +0200 To: JITR From: Mars-L Subject: I AM NOT YOUR BABY ! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Sorry the homepage isn't available yet, the provider does have some problems (none of their homepages is accessable since last night 02.00) The problem will be fixes a.s.a.p. So if you wanna listen to the new Bono/Sinead duet keep checking; http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead.htm --------- M A R S - L ------------------------------------------------- Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor Page - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead.htm - FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE -------------- From jitr-owner Sun Sep 7 07:43:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id HAA28446 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 07:43:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id HAA28441 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 07:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm3-06.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.137]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA15206; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 16:42:22 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970907164125.0077c290@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 16:41:25 +0200 To: u2-list@gartholamew.com, JITR From: Mars-L Subject: I AM NOT YOUR BABY ! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, The homepage is fixed again; So if you wanna listen to the new Bono/Sinead duet goto; http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead.htm --------- M A R S - L ------------------------------------------------- Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor Page - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead.htm - FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE -------------- From jitr-owner Sun Sep 7 10:17:24 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA28902 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 10:17:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from postoffice.mail.cornell.edu (POSTOFFICE.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.56.7]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id KAA28897 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 10:17:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 132.236.121.202.resnet.cornell.edu (CLH22.RESNET.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.121.202]) by postoffice.mail.cornell.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA15372 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 13:17:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19970907131723.006ed0c0@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu> X-Sender: clh22@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) -- [Cornell Modified] Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 13:17:23 -0400 To: JITR From: Carrie Hoffman Subject: Sinead in PEOPLE In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19970907164125.0077c290@pop.telebyte.nl> Mime-Version: