From jitr-owner Sun Jun 1 03:26:41 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id DAA17155 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 03:26:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id DAA17150 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 03:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm1-11.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.203]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA02419 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 12:26:58 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970601122502.0077b16c@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 1997 12:25:02 +0200 To: JITR From: Mars-L Subject: Favorite tracks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, BJPaddock wanted to know the favorite non-album tracks of others, go to the next page and you will find a ranked-list of the favorite songs of about 90 persons, collected the last months. Because the questionnaire started months ago you will not find much "Gospel Oak EP" songs mentionings but that will probably change the coming months. http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/questionnaire/results.htm ----------I-M-P-O-R-T-A-N-T--(??)------------------------------------ Sorry for not replying sooner, my computer was crashed a few days ago Also; I won't reply E-mail between JUNE 2nd and JUNE 7th, I'll be on a "business-trip" during that period !!! 2nd Also; During the summer I won't be very "Internet active" so forgive me when E-mail gets short replies or gets delayed ! -----------------------------------------------bobbink@telebyte.nl--- From jitr-owner Sun Jun 1 09:34:07 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id JAA17936 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 09:34:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from peru.qstone.nl (peru.qstone.nl [195.108.182.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id JAA17931 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 09:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from default (ws112.qstone.nl [195.108.182.12]) by peru.qstone.nl (8.6.8.1/SCA-6.6) with SMTP id QAA21912 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 16:43:07 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970601183254.006b9d50@peru.qstone.nl> X-Sender: landheer@peru.qstone.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 1997 18:32:54 +0200 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Landheer Subject: Sinead in fight In-Reply-To: <199705310800.BAA12198@server.postmodern.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi all, Last thursday I heard on the dutch radio, that Sinead was beaten up by a taxi driver in London. The story: She refused to pay the driver because he should have taken a detour. The driver spit into the face of Sinead and gave her some punches... Sinead gave back a punch. They both have report it to the police. Ciao, Henko From jitr-owner Sun Jun 1 16:12:54 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id QAA18629 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 16:12:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca (bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca [128.100.132.11]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id QAA18624 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 16:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from log3 ([128.100.100.195]) by bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca with SMTP id <795068(2)>; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 19:12:32 -0400 Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 19:12:22 -0400 From: suzy.aston@utoronto.ca X-Sender: suzy.aston@log3 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: sinead o'connor-gospel oak/US limited editions (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Here is something else I got from Linda at EMI -Suzy **************** Hi There,=20 Several people have asked questions about limited editions of "Gospel Oak" = in the US, so...... Gospel Oak will be release on Tuesday (June 3). There will be 3 different versions: 1. The 6 song EP: "This Is To Mother You=94, "I Am Enough For Myself", "Pet= it Poulet", "4 My Love=94, =93This IS a Rebel Song=94 and =93He Moved Through = The Fair (live).=94 This is the primary US "Gospel Oak" version; most stores will c= arry this version of the EP. 2. A Limited Edition CD EP/3 video VHS bonus pack. This will be available exclusively through Borders (a national record/book retailer in the US). Th= e 3 videos are: "This Is To Mother You" plus 2 performances from Sinead's longform video "Year Of The Horse" which is no longer available. The VHS video has a gold slipcase which is shrinkwrapped to the CD. 3. A Limited Edition 7 track version of "Gospel Oak" that includes a bonus = CD with the "Fire On Babylon (extended remix)". The artwork on this package is exactly the same as to primary "Gospel Oak" package, except for a sticker o= n the front indicating the extra track/CD. This limited edition will be available primarily through smaller, independent (Ma&Pa) stores who buy through Alliance Distribution. =20 Later, Linda From jitr-owner Sun Jun 1 19:11:27 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id TAA19097 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 19:11:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from pilot18.cl.msu.edu (pilot18.cl.msu.edu [35.9.5.28]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id TAA19092 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 19:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (miazgama@localhost) by pilot18.cl.msu.edu (8.7.5/MSU-2.10) id WAA131552; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 22:11:18 -0400 Message-Id: <199706020211.WAA131552@pilot18.cl.msu.edu> Subject: re: Non-Album tracks To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 22:11:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark Anthony Miazga" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ > Heroine, On Ragalan Road, and many others. So let's hear it: Which are your > favorites, which do you not like so much? Any opinions you wish to express > would be much much appreciated as I hunt for this material. Thanks much! My favorite (although I haven't heard that much) is definitely "Ode to Billy Jo" from the compilation album Help! It was always a favorite song of mine, and Sinead does a superb cover of the song, rendering it powerful in a whole new light. If you're comparing it to Bobby Gentry's version, Gentry's is more folky, while Sinead's has a stark feel to it. It's become one of my favorite Sinead tracks. -- Mark A. Miazga Michigan State University miazgama@pilot.msu.edu East Lansing, MI USA "Yeah I don't sleep, I only dream A caffeine hole burning through my spleen" -- Brenda Kahn From jitr-owner Sun Jun 1 19:52:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id TAA19220 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 19:52:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca (bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca [128.100.132.11]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id TAA19215 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 19:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from log3 ([128.100.100.195]) by bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca with SMTP id <795151(5)>; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 22:51:40 -0400 Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 22:51:31 -0400 From: suzy.aston@utoronto.ca X-Sender: suzy.aston@log3 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: re: Non-Album tracks In-Reply-To: <199706020211.WAA131552@pilot18.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ > Heroine, On Ragalan Road, and many others. So let's hear it: Which are your > favorites, which do you not like so much? Any opinions you wish to express > would be much much appreciated as I hunt for this material. Thanks much! My knowledge of non-album tracks is also not too extensive. But of the ones I've heard I would have to say 'You Made Me the Thief Of Your Heart' is my favourite of them. It's one of my favourite songs by Sinead period. It's an incredible song capturing some of the essence of Irish music including a powerful lyric and melody. Suzy From jitr-owner Sun Jun 1 21:25:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id VAA19445 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 21:25:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id VAA19440 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 21:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm1-24.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.216]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA28494 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 06:25:59 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970602062405.00778874@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 06:24:05 +0200 To: JITR From: Mars-L Subject: sinead o'connor-gospel oak/US limited editions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ >X-From_: LAdamsEMI@aol.com Sun Jun 1 21:51:38 1997 >From: LAdamsEMI@aol.com >Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 15:45:55 -0400 (EDT) >Subject: sinead o'connor-gospel oak/US limited editions > >Hi There, >Several people have asked questions about limited editions of "Gospel Oak" in >the US, so...... > >Gospel Oak will be release on Tuesday (June 3). There will be 3 different >versions: > >1. The 6 song EP: "This Is To Mother You”, "I Am Enough For Myself", "Petit >Poulet", "4 My Love”, “This IS a Rebel Song” and “He Moved Through The Fair >(live).” This is the primary US "Gospel Oak" version; most stores will carry >this version of the EP. > >2. A Limited Edition CD EP/3 video VHS bonus pack. This will be available >exclusively through Borders (a national record/book retailer in the US). The >3 videos are: "This Is To Mother You" plus 2 performances from Sinead's >longform video "Year Of The Horse" which is no longer available. The VHS >video has a gold slipcase which is shrinkwrapped to the CD. > >3. A Limited Edition 7 track version of "Gospel Oak" that includes a bonus CD >with the "Fire On Babylon (extended remix)". The artwork on this package is >exactly the same as to primary "Gospel Oak" package, except for a sticker on >the front indicating the extra track/CD. This limited edition will be >available primarily through smaller, independent (Ma&Pa) stores who buy >through Alliance Distribution. > >Later, >Linda > > ----------I-M-P-O-R-T-A-N-T--(??)------------------------------------ Sorry for not replying sooner, my computer was crashed a few days ago Also; I won't reply E-mail between JUNE 2nd and JUNE 7th, I'll be on a "business-trip" during that period !!! 2nd Also; During the summer I won't be very "Internet active" so forgive me when E-mail gets short replies or gets delayed ! -----------------------------------------------bobbink@telebyte.nl--- From jitr-owner Sun Jun 1 22:33:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id WAA19610 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 22:33:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from callisto.uwinnipeg.ca (brana@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca [142.132.1.23]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id WAA19604 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 22:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (brana@localhost) by callisto.uwinnipeg.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA13568; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 00:33:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 00:33:29 -0500 (CDT) From: bilal rana To: BJPaddock@aol.com cc: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: Fwd: non-album tracks In-Reply-To: <970531224601_1324544429@emout01.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ hello u may wanna check out some awesome rare songs in real audio format at Roman Szendry's awesome homepage at: http://www.dowcomputer.com/sinaudio.htm My favorite is "Irish Ways and Irish Laws" IT really is awesome. I also really like "Josey Walsh" and "Streets of London." On Sat, 31 May 1997 BJPaddock@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/1/97 2:36:09 AM, BJPaddock wrote: > > < I've been a Sinead Fan for years, but listening to the new EP, I've just > gotten massively back into her. In fact I've been struck with a desire to > collect all her material that hasn't appeared on her albums (I have some of > it now, but most I'm still running around New York looking for). I'd be very > curious to hear from you what you consider to be the imperative, stand-out > non-album tracks, as I'll look to buy those first. I've never heard You Make > Me the Thief of Your Heart, Ode to Billy Joe, the Famine or Babylon remixes, > Heroine, On Ragalan Road, and many others. So let's hear it: Which are your > favorites, which do you not like so much? Any opinions you wish to express > would be much much appreciated as I hunt for this material. Thanks much! > -barry>> > > > --------------------- > Forwarded message: > Subj: non-album tracks > Date: 97-05-31 22:36:09 EDT > From: BJPaddock > To: jitr@server/server.postmodern.com > > Greeting Sinead Fans. I'm brand new to the list and this is my first post. > I've been a Sinead Fan for years, but listening to the new EP, I've just > gotten massively back into her. In fact I've been struck with a desire to > collect all her material that hasn't appeared on her albums (I have some of > it now, but most I'm still running around New York looking for). I'd be very > curious to hear from you what you consider to be the imperative, stand-out > non-album tracks, as I'll look to buy those first. I've never heard You Make > Me the Thief of Your Heart, Ode to Billy Joe, the Famine or Babylon remixes, > Heroine, On Ragalan Road, and many others. So let's hear it: Which are your > favorites, which do you not like so much? Any opinions you wish to express > would be much much appreciated as I hunt for this material. Thanks much! > -barry > From jitr-owner Mon Jun 2 00:47:38 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id AAA21554 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 00:47:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id AAA21549 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 00:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (ah29.pi.net [145.220.203.29]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA28316 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 09:47:23 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 09:47:23 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970602094350.2dc77b4e@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: anna@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 09:43:50 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Eduard Verheijen Subject: Gossip Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On the Duth television yesterday they had a small gossip item on sinead. It seems that she was going with a taxi from A to B but the driver ripped her off by driving a wrong way. He charged her for that but sinead knew the way there also and she said to him that he ripped her off. He became angry at her and sinead hitted him in the face before she left his taxi (without paying at all). I don't know where or when it happend, but they told it yesterday (sunday) here on tv. Eduard ************************************* * Eduard Verheijen * ************************************* From jitr-owner Mon Jun 2 05:54:12 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id FAA22046 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 05:54:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mcrcr6.med.nyu.edu (SYSTEM@mcrcr.med.nyu.edu [128.122.244.5]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id FAA22041 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 05:54:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Christian.Petrulio@mcems.med.nyu.edu Received: from ccmail.med.nyu.edu by MCRCR6.MED.NYU.EDU (PMDF V5.1-8 #17735) id <01IJLAQ9DXLC8WY0U9@MCRCR6.MED.NYU.EDU> for jitr@server.postmodern.com; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 08:53:59 EST Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 08:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Fwd: non-album tracks To: jitr@server.postmodern.com, BJPaddock@aol.com Message-id: <01IJLAQDQZDM8WY0U9@MCRCR6.MED.NYU.EDU> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ My top picks would be On Raglan Road, The Foggy Dew, He Moved Through the Fair with the Chieftains, My Man's Gone Now, Troy live, House Of The Rising Sun, I Believe In You, Ode To Billy Joe, and The Value Of Ignorance. I'm in New York, Barry, if you have trouble finding these things let me know. Christian From jitr-owner Mon Jun 2 14:20:53 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id OAA23256 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 14:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id OAA23251 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 14:20:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mangal.cs.huji.ac.il by cs.huji.ac.il with SMTP id AA14333 (5.67b/HUJI 4.153 for ); Tue, 3 Jun 1997 00:19:45 +0300 Received: from localhost (yogon@localhost) by mangal.cs.huji.ac.il (8.7/1.1c) with SMTP id AAA12510 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 00:19:44 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mangal.cs.huji.ac.il: yogon owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 00:19:44 +0300 (IDT) From: Yoav Gonen To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Sinead in Israel Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Apparently I'm going to miss her performance in Israel on the 20th (21th?) because I'll be leaving to England several days before. However, to anyone who is going to a trip in Israel on June, I strongly recommand it! No only due to Sinead's performance but especially because of the place. The Sultan's Pool is one of the most beautiful places in Jerusalem, especially at night! The old city walls are mystically "standing" on top of the crowd creating an exciting atmosphere. I was lucky enough to see Sinead performs at the same place two years ago and it was just amazing!!! Yoav. From jitr-owner Mon Jun 2 14:21:58 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id OAA23295 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 14:21:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from tin.it (box1.tin.it [195.31.190.111]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id OAA23283 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 14:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [195.31.186.14] (Pordenone3-15.tin.it) by mbox.vol.it with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA007416467; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 23:21:08 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 23:23:11 +0100 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: rolit@mbox.vol.it (Rolando Michelazzi) Subject: "new" song in Rome Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, I've finally discovered the title of the second song performed by Sinead in Rome on May 1st. The song is called "The Factory Girl" and it is a traditional one. As not even Mars-L knew it, as presume Sinead has never sung it before (at public performances, of course). The following notes are taken from the booklet of the Bothy Band's album "Out Of The Wind Into The Sun" (1977): --------- "The Factory Girl" has strong links with the North of Ireland, but versions of it have been found in most part of the country. In the one given by Sam Henry in THE SONGS OF THE PEOPLE, the young woman accepts the gentleman's offer to make her "a great lady of fame and renown". In this version, however, she doesn't. The rejection is thought likely to be the older of the two endings." --------- The arrangement by the Bothy Band is very different from the Sinead's one. Ciao. Rolando. From jitr-owner Mon Jun 2 14:24:47 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id OAA23367 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 14:24:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id OAA23362 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 14:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME ([207.116.44.206]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA27347 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 21:24:03 +0000 X-Sender: icehouse@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Candace Roberts Subject: Visions Of You promo by Jah Wobble Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 21:24:03 +0000 Message-ID: <19970602212402.AAA27347@LOCALNAME> Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ If anyone is interested in receiving the Jah Wobble promo/ picture disc item of Visions Of You, I would like to part with it for a totla of 12 dollars (that includes postage). Let me know if anyone is interested. Thanks Gordon From jitr-owner Mon Jun 2 15:54:14 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id PAA23726 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 15:54:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mailrelay.tiac.net (mailrelay.tiac.net [199.0.65.237]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id PAA23721 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 15:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brian (d-ri-newport-28.ici.net [207.180.21.217]) by mailrelay.tiac.net (8.8.5/) with SMTP id SAA12432 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 18:54:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 18:53:10 -0400 Message-ID: <01BC6F86.376380E0@bjf@usa.net> From: Brian Fumo To: "'jitr'" Subject: RE: jitr-digest V3 #128 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 18:45:21 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4025 Encoding: 21 TEXT Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On Monday, June 02, 1997 4:00 AM, owner-jitr-digest@postmodern.com [SMTP:owner-jitr-digest@postmodern.com] wrote: > > persons, collected the last months. Because the questionnaire started > months ago you will not find much "Gospel Oak EP" songs mentionings but > that will probably change the coming months. > > http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/questionnaire/results.htm This page is most interesting, though I'm a little puzzled by it. "I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got" comes in a distant third place for Best Album?! I didn't think there was much question that this was her best album (certainly the critics think so), but it's a little shocking that it would fall this low in any case. I think I'd put the #1 ranking "The Lion and the Cobra" in third place even somewhere after "Universal Mother," but not by too much. It just doesn't seem as mature or accomplished as the other two. "Am I Not Your Girl" probably shouldn't be compared with the others. Brian From jitr-owner Mon Jun 2 18:47:46 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id SAA24327 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 18:47:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from pilot13.cl.msu.edu (pilot13.cl.msu.edu [35.9.5.23]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id SAA24322 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 18:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (miazgama@localhost) by pilot13.cl.msu.edu (8.7.5/MSU-2.10) id VAA190582; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 21:47:19 -0400 Message-Id: <199706030147.VAA190582@pilot13.cl.msu.edu> Subject: Best Sinead Album (re: web page poll) To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 21:47:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark Anthony Miazga" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ > This page is most interesting, though I'm a little puzzled by it. "I Do > Not Want What I Haven't Got" comes in a distant third place for Best > Album?! I didn't think there was much question that this was her best > album (certainly the critics think so) This is not what I have been seeing. In reading various books (the All Music Guide, Rolling Stone Rock Encyclopedia), I've seen at least half (probably more) saying that TLATC is Sinead's best. I definitely think it is. Full of furious passion, it is cathartic rock at its best. I love every minute of it. UM and IDNWWIHG are great, but I prefer TLATC. -- Mark A. Miazga Michigan State University miazgama@pilot.msu.edu East Lansing, MI USA "Yeah I don't sleep, I only dream A caffeine hole burning through my spleen" -- Brenda Kahn From jitr-owner Tue Jun 3 01:42:30 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id BAA27005 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 01:42:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server.psion.com (ns.psion.com [194.129.1.253]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id BAA26999 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 01:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpgate.psion.com by server.psion.com (8.6.12/PIPEX simple 1.26) id JAA09632; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 09:48:29 +0100 Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.psion.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA865355995; Tue, 03 Jun 97 09:28:59 GMT Date: Tue, 03 Jun 97 09:28:59 GMT From: "Mandy Green" Message-Id: <9705038653.AA865355995@smtpgate.psion.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com, rolit@mbox.vol.it (Rolando Michelazzi) Subject: Re: "new" song in Rome Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi She sung it at the Barbican as part of the From The Heart festival - and will be singing it at all her summer shows - no doubt. But thanks for the additional information! Mandy ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: "new" song in Rome Author: rolit@mbox.vol.it (Rolando Michelazzi) at INTERNET Date: 02/06/97 22:22 Hello, I've finally discovered the title of the second song performed by Sinead in Rome on May 1st. The song is called "The Factory Girl" and it is a traditional one. As not even Mars-L knew it, as presume Sinead has never sung it before (at public performances, of course). The following notes are taken from the booklet of the Bothy Band's album "Out Of The Wind Into The Sun" (1977): --------- "The Factory Girl" has strong links with the North of Ireland, but versions of it have been found in most part of the country. In the one given by Sam Henry in THE SONGS OF THE PEOPLE, the young woman accepts the gentleman's offer to make her "a great lady of fame and renown". In this version, however, she doesn't. The rejection is thought likely to be the older of the two endings." --------- The arrangement by the Bothy Band is very different from the Sinead's one. Ciao. Rolando. From jitr-owner Tue Jun 3 01:42:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id BAA27027 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 01:42:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server.psion.com (ns.psion.com [194.129.1.253]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id BAA27004 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 01:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpgate.psion.com by server.psion.com (8.6.12/PIPEX simple 1.26) id JAA09677; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 09:48:40 +0100 Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.psion.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA865356018; Tue, 03 Jun 97 09:28:59 GMT Date: Tue, 03 Jun 97 09:28:59 GMT From: "Mandy Green" Message-Id: <9705038653.AA865356018@smtpgate.psion.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com, rolit@mbox.vol.it (Rolando Michelazzi) Subject: Re: "new" song in Rome Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi She sung it at the Barbican as part of the From The Heart festival - and will be singing it at all her summer shows - no doubt. But thanks for the additional information! Mandy ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: "new" song in Rome Author: rolit@mbox.vol.it (Rolando Michelazzi) at INTERNET Date: 02/06/97 22:22 Hello, I've finally discovered the title of the second song performed by Sinead in Rome on May 1st. The song is called "The Factory Girl" and it is a traditional one. As not even Mars-L knew it, as presume Sinead has never sung it before (at public performances, of course). The following notes are taken from the booklet of the Bothy Band's album "Out Of The Wind Into The Sun" (1977): --------- "The Factory Girl" has strong links with the North of Ireland, but versions of it have been found in most part of the country. In the one given by Sam Henry in THE SONGS OF THE PEOPLE, the young woman accepts the gentleman's offer to make her "a great lady of fame and renown". In this version, however, she doesn't. The rejection is thought likely to be the older of the two endings." --------- The arrangement by the Bothy Band is very different from the Sinead's one. Ciao. Rolando. From jitr-owner Tue Jun 3 02:31:12 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id CAA27263 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 02:31:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server.psion.com (ns.psion.com [194.129.1.253]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id CAA27258 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 02:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpgate.psion.com by server.psion.com (8.6.12/PIPEX simple 1.26) id KAA00565; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 10:37:13 +0100 Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.psion.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA865357036; Tue, 03 Jun 97 09:51:57 GMT Date: Tue, 03 Jun 97 09:51:57 GMT From: "Mandy Green" Message-Id: <9705038653.AA865357036@smtpgate.psion.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re[2]: jitr-digest V3 #128 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi Brian Well, you have to realise that at the time "The Lion & The Cobra" was released there was nothing quite like it - all that raw anger and energy - bear in mind that Sinead was 17/18 when she wrote the songs and all of 20 years old when she recorded and co-produced the album. Her voice really is at its best here - she took to whispering the lyrics to her material after "I Do Not Want..." and when you have a vocal range as great (and powerful) as Sinead's then the last thing you should do is let the music swallow up the vocals. Granted - she has matured enormously over the years - but I don't honestly feel that it does her music any justice to compare her debut from '87 to material recorded in later years. Sinead herself says that there are certain songs from The Lion & The Cobra that she will no longer perform because she finds them embarassing and immature - but this is to take them out of their context - which is never fair. But I digress, and we're all welcome to our humble opinions. All I can say is that I'm glad she's no longer whispering - and I won't even mention Am I Not Your Girl...a diversion at best - a waste of her talents at worst ! Mandy ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: jitr-digest V3 #128 Author: Brian Fumo at INTERNET Date: 02/06/97 23:53 On Monday, June 02, 1997 4:00 AM, owner-jitr-digest@postmodern.com [SMTP:owner-jitr-digest@postmodern.com] wrote: > > persons, collected the last months. Because the questionnaire started > months ago you will not find much "Gospel Oak EP" songs mentionings but > that will probably change the coming months. > > http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/questionnaire/results.htm This page is most interesting, though I'm a little puzzled by it. "I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got" comes in a distant third place for Best Album?! I didn't think there was much question that this was her best album (certainly the critics think so), but it's a little shocking that it would fall this low in any case. I think I'd put the #1 ranking "The Lion and the Cobra" in third place even somewhere after "Universal Mother," but not by too much. It just doesn't seem as mature or accomplished as the other two. "Am I Not Your Girl" probably shouldn't be compared with the others. Brian From jitr-owner Tue Jun 3 07:36:38 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id HAA27727 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 07:36:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server1.rz.uni-leipzig.de (daemon@server1.rz.uni-leipzig.de [139.18.1.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id HAA27722 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 07:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from studserv.uni-leipzig.de by server1.rz.uni-leipzig.de with SMTP (1.37.109.20/16.2) id AA011278563; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 16:36:03 +0200 Received: by studserv.uni-leipzig.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA31148; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 16:36:00 +0200 Message-Id: <9706031436.AA31148@studserv.uni-leipzig.de> Subject: Re: jitr-digest V3 #129 To: jitr@postmodern.com Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 16:36:00 +0200 (MESZ) From: "" In-Reply-To: <199706030800.BAA26821@server.postmodern.com> from "owner-jitr-digest@postmodern.com" at Jun 3, 97 01:00:11 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi there! This is Daniel from Germany. I am receiving this list since 2 weeks and I am happy about it. At first, I want to tell everbody that in Germany not only the 4-track-"GOSPEL OAK" is available, the 6-track-edition is available, too. The four track has a price about 10 DM, the 6-track about 25 DM (!!!!). Yesterday, I read that there will be a 7-track-US-release with a Fire on Babylon-Bonus-CD. Is it the Babylon 13:27min - Version from 1994's Thank you for hearing me - Maxi or is it a brand new remix? At the EMI - Page I read that Sinéad will perform on a festival in Germany on July, 25th? This is one day after the Stimmen-Voices-Voix-Festival in Loerrach. Does anyone know more about? Finally, here is a statement on the "BEST ALBUM" - discussion. In my opinion, all Sinéad - CDs are quite good, but my favorite is UNIVERSAL MOTHER. Nevertheless, such a discussion is quite boring! Maybe anyone can answer my questions.... Have a nice time, DANIEL FROM LEIPZIG. p.s.: there is also a discussion about good non-album-releases. Well, I think that "Breakthrough" (Rick Wright), "Ode to Billy Joe" and the version of "Woman of Ireland" on the Ain't nuthing but a she thing - sampler are really breathtaking!!!!!!! p.p.s.: does anyone knows something about a Sinead performance in German TV? Bye! From jitr-owner Tue Jun 3 11:06:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id LAA28783 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:06:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from chuma.cas.usf.edu (chuma.cas.usf.edu [131.247.209.50]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id LAA28778 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (rfernand@localhost) by chuma.cas.usf.edu (8.8.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA17362 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 13:57:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 13:57:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Inspector Perverso X-Sender: rfernand@chuma cc: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: Best Sinead Album (re: web page poll) In-Reply-To: <199706030147.VAA190582@pilot13.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Mark Anthony Miazga wrote: > > This page is most interesting, though I'm a little puzzled by it. "I Do > > Not Want What I Haven't Got" comes in a distant third place for Best > > Album?! I didn't think there was much question that this was her best > > album (certainly the critics think so) > > This is not what I have been seeing. In reading various books (the All Music > Guide, Rolling Stone Rock Encyclopedia), I've seen at least half (probably > more) saying that TLATC is Sinead's best. I definitely think it is. Full of And I've repeatedly seen IDNWWIHG listed in places like Rolling Stone and Entertainment Weekly as not only her best, but one of the best albums of all time. There won't be an difference between Robert Fernandez when I'm dead and now, because I rfernand@chuma.cas.usf.edu won't know it. - Marcel Duchamp http://chuma.cas.usf.edu/~rfernand From jitr-owner Tue Jun 3 12:01:07 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id MAA29015 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 12:01:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from emout06.mail.aol.com (emout06.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.97]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id MAA29010 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 12:01:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Papioanou@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id PAA00613; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 15:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 15:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970603145955_554867656@emout06.mail.aol.com> To: Mandy-Green@psion.com, jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: jitr-digest V3 #128 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Just wanted to post an opinion about the new Gospel Oak ep I picked up yesterday at a record store in NY. I recall someone conceding that they were disappointed somewhat after the first take, but later recanted after several runs through. I also recall another saying how she loved it from the start. Well, with that in mind, I can easily understand how both views might surface after an initial listening. I myself enjoyed the ep from the start, yet if I were expecting anything remotely traceable to her past recordings, I may have been a little disappointed as well. just for the record, as of now my favorite song is #4 on the cd. It might be titled For My Love. andio sas, John From jitr-owner Tue Jun 3 13:37:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id NAA29294 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 13:37:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from usr09.primenet.com (root@usr09.primenet.com [206.165.5.109]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id NAA29289 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 13:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip32-084.lax.primenet.com (ip32-084.lax.primenet.com [206.165.32.84]) by usr09.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA01749 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 13:37:00 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199706032037.NAA01749@usr09.primenet.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Johnnie J. Young" To: jitr@postmodern.com Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 13:37:39 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Subject: Mr. Showbiz "Gospel Oak" Review Reply-to: jjyoung@primenet.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ The following is a review from the Mr. Showbiz Web Site. They also have t= wo online audio clips from the album. You can check it out and listen to the= sound clips at http://www.mrshowbiz.com Sin=E9ad O'Connor: Gospel Oak Chrysalis/EMI Rock/Pop Rating: 85 "This Is To Mother You" (310K WAV) | RealAudio: 28.8 or 14.4 "4 My Love" (323K WAV) | RealAudio: 28.8 or 14.4 Very few performers as talented and dynamic as Sin=E9ad O'Connor are also = as utterly incompetent when it comes to public relations. With the exception = of 1992's ill-advised lounge-ballads album, Am I Not Your Girl?, the quality = of O'Connor's music hasn't fallen off since her "Nothing Compares 2 U" heyday= , and yet it's as if she's fallen off the face of the Earth. Chalk it up to a volatile mix: piteous whining about the glamorous life and merciless condemnations of organized religion. There's nothing like brutal honesty t= o warm up a crowd, right? Given her reputation, a low-key approach makes sense for O'Connor, and wit= h that in mind, we are given this six-song, twenty-two-minute EP. Beautiful = and heartfelt, while not exactly groundbreaking, Gospel Oak demonstrates, once= again, that O'Connor has a rare ability to command the attention of her listeners, and to nail her emotional targets with pinpoint accuracy and startling depth. Clearly inspired by the worries and wonderment of pregnan= cy and motherhood, these songs offer comfort ("When you need me, I will do/ W= hat your own mother didn't do," she sings to her love in "This Is To Mother Yo= u") and hope in the face of doubt ("There isn't any answer to the question/ Yo= u only learn to live with it," she sings to her baby in "Petit Poulet"). Iri= sh folk inflections abound, with a low whistle on the Van Morrison-like "I Am= Enough for Myself," and accordion on the West African-influenced "Petit Po= ulet" and "4 My Love," the most compelling track on this wondrous little EP. -- Bob Remstein --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- A really great review for once! :) Johnnie J. Young jjyoung@primenet.com Mary Stuart Masterson: Some Kind of Webpage From jitr-owner Tue Jun 3 14:31:39 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id OAA29506 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 14:31:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from netspace.com.mx (main.netspace.com.mx [207.3.131.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id OAA29501 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 14:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [207.3.131.86] by netspace.com.mx with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Tue, 3 Jun 1997 16:28:45 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 15:47:59 -0600 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: johnny@main.netspace.com.mx (Juan Manuel Garcia) Subject: Good news! free channels about Sinead performance on TV Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi all, Today I founded 3 free channels for all who using on satellite television system or cable about The Late Show with David Letterman that Sinead will perform "This Is To Mother You" on Friday, June 13th. (thanx to jeff) - CBS occasional (live) at 10:00 pm E (USA)- G7 (Galaxy 7)-channel 18 - CBS east (live) at 10:00 pm E (USA)- G7 (Galaxy 7)-channel 19 - CBS NJersey (may be live) at 11:30 pm E (USA)- S4 (Spacenet4)-channel 12 johnny... From jitr-owner Wed Jun 4 00:08:32 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id AAA02366 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 00:08:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id AAA02361 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 00:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (ah16.pi.net [145.220.203.16]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA23296 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 09:08:15 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 09:08:15 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970604090239.084f5b1e@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: anna@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 09:02:39 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Eduard Verheijen Subject: USA sinead release Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi there. Is there anyone out there who wants to buy for me the Gospel oak ep including the video and the gospel oak ep with the 7th bonus track on it in the usa. Of course i will pay for it all. Thanks a lot (please let me know) Eduard ************************************* * Eduard Verheijen * ************************************* From jitr-owner Wed Jun 4 10:40:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA03711 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 10:40:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from cc02du.unity.ncsu.edu (cc02du.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.1.174]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id KAA03705 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 10:40:27 -0700 (PDT) From: mcharden@unity.ncsu.edu Received: (from mcharden@localhost) by cc02du.unity.ncsu.edu (8.8.4/UC02Jan97) id NAA08130 for jitr@server.postmodern.com; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 13:39:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706041739.NAA08130@cc02du.unity.ncsu.edu> Subject: Gospel Oak Video To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 13:39:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24/POP] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Yesterday I went to my local Borders store and bought the Gospel Oak CD with video. The 2 tracks from the Year of the Horse are Jersalem and Nothing compares 2 U. I was excited to get this video since the only other one I have is The Long Black Veil. I didn't like the Jersalem video but the other 2 were great! I can't remember if the list has talked about the video for This is to Mother you--if we haven't post it on the list and I will describe what it looks like. Christine From jitr-owner Wed Jun 4 19:18:49 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id TAA04739 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 19:18:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com (emout13.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.39]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id TAA04734 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 19:18:45 -0700 (PDT) From: LongShips@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA08909 for jitr@server.postmodern.com; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 22:18:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 22:18:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970604221601_1043845742@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Sinead in Boston, USA Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Tickets for Sinead's concert at Harborlights on August 28 are now on sale. The venue is great, and it should be a wonderful night. visit http://www.harborlights.com for ticket info. Louise From jitr-owner Wed Jun 4 21:45:27 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id VAA05009 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 21:45:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail2.goodnet.com (104.good.net [207.98.129.104]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id VAA05004 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 21:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from primenet.primenet.com (tuc-ns4-8.goodnet.com [207.98.186.137]) by mail2.goodnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA05398 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 21:42:28 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <339645F2.8F4D626A@goodnet.com> Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 21:52:03 -0700 From: Jacob Champlin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "jitr@server.postmodern.com" Subject: (no subject) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi everyone- Can anyone tell me who the man is in the "This is to mother you" video? Sara From jitr-owner Thu Jun 5 02:58:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id CAA07206 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 02:58:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from vetch.singnet.com.sg (vetch.singnet.com.sg [165.21.6.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id CAA07201 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 02:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Lin (gateway.sembcorp.com.sg [203.120.61.10]) by vetch.singnet.com.sg (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA06593 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 17:58:06 +0800 (SGT) Received: by Lin Wanlei.mbox2@mbox2.com.sg with Microsoft Mail id <01BC71DA.05C902C0@Lin Wanlei.mbox2@mbox2.com.sg>; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 17:58:07 +0800 Message-ID: <01BC71DA.05C902C0@Lin Wanlei.mbox2@mbox2.com.sg> From: "Wanlei@SingNet Mail" To: "'jitr@postmodern.com'" Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 17:57:58 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BC71DA.05F3BC40" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC71DA.05F3BC40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "This is mother to you" the video is great. She look fabulous someone she got hair on her head... ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC71DA.05F3BC40 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IgcJAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEkAYAHAEAAAEAAAAMAAAAAwAAMAIAAAAL AA8OAAAAAAIB/w8BAAAARQAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAGppdHJAcG9zdG1vZGVy bi5jb20AU01UUABqaXRyQHBvc3Rtb2Rlcm4uY29tAAAAAB4AAjABAAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAAHgAD MAEAAAAUAAAAaml0ckBwb3N0bW9kZXJuLmNvbQADABUMAQAAAAMA/g8GAAAAHgABMAEAAAAWAAAA J2ppdHJAcG9zdG1vZGVybi5jb20nAAAAAgELMAEAAAAZAAAAU01UUDpKSVRSQFBPU1RNT0RFUk4u Q09NAAAAAAMAADkAAAAACwBAOgEAAAACAfYPAQAAAAQAAAAAAAACNzQBBIABAAEAAAAAAAABBYAD AA4AAADNBwYABQARADkAOgAEAGcBASCAAwAOAAAAzQcGAAUAEQA5AAcABAA0AQEJgAEAIQAAADJB REI0NzM3Q0JEREQwMTFBNjFGQUEwMDA0MDA3QjJBADEHAQOQBgBUAgAAFAAAAAsAIwABAAAAAwAm AAAAAAALACkAAQAAAAMALgAAAAAAAwA2AAAAAABAADkAAJcU8pZxvAEeAHAAAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAA AgFxAAEAAAAWAAAAAbxxlvHzN0fbK93LEdCmH6oABAB7KgAAHgAeDAEAAAAFAAAAU01UUAAAAAAe AB8MAQAAAB4AAAB3aWxwaGlsbEBtYm94Mi5zaW5nbmV0LmNvbS5zZwAAAAMABhAeEGENAwAHEEsA AAAeAAgQAQAAAEwAAAAiVEhJU0lTTU9USEVSVE9ZT1UiVEhFVklERU9JU0dSRUFUU0hFTE9PS0ZB QlVMT1VTU09NRU9ORVNIRUdPVEhBSVJPTkhFUkhFQUQAAgEJEAEAAADyAAAA7gAAAG0BAABMWkZ1 BdgcSf8ACgEPAhUCpAPkBesCgwBQEwNUAgBjaArAc2V0bjIGAAbDAoMyA8UCAHBUcnESIFYEkGQA cGFdAoB9CoAIzwnZOxVCMTwyOBWcFHENogtgbmcwMTAzMwr7EvIxNkMUsABAICJUaAQAIBMaYQRg dGgEkCB0bzQgeQhgIhsgGvAgdh5pDbAbQBphCcFhdC6HBgAbwRTgb2sgZgGganUU4HUEIHMDcBwg blUb0HMbwWca0CARwGkfBcACIB8AGwEa8GFkLsMgEAqLbGkzNg3wGR97CqADYHQFkAVACoUUcQAB I8AAAAMAEBAAAAAAAwAREAMAAABAAAcwYHY51JZxvAFAAAgwYHY51JZxvAEeAD0AAQAAAAEAAAAA AAAAAwANNP03AAC5hA== ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC71DA.05F3BC40-- From jitr-owner Thu Jun 5 05:39:53 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id FAA07500 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 05:39:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server1.rz.uni-leipzig.de (server1.rz.uni-leipzig.de [139.18.1.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id FAA07495 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 05:39:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from studserv.uni-leipzig.de by server1.rz.uni-leipzig.de with SMTP (1.37.109.20/16.2) id AA125394347; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 14:39:07 +0200 Received: by studserv.uni-leipzig.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA12271; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 14:38:55 +0200 Message-Id: <9706051238.AA12271@studserv.uni-leipzig.de> Subject: Re: jitr-digest V3 #131 Sinead in JENA ???!! To: jitr@postmodern.com Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 14:38:54 +0200 (MESZ) From: "" In-Reply-To: <199706050800.BAA06997@server.postmodern.com> from "owner-jitr-digest@postmodern.com" at Jun 5, 97 01:00:11 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi, everybody! Yesterday I read on a "black board" in my university that Sinead will perform in Jena (Eastern Germany). Does anybody know more about this Gig? I can remember that the festival is called KULTUR-ARENA. So please help me. I think this would be the very first concert in ther former GDR?! So I keep my fingers crossing. Once again: JENA (Germany) THIS SUMMER KULTURARENA - Festival. Bye, Daniel from Leipzig. From jitr-owner Thu Jun 5 08:03:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id IAA07740 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 08:03:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from netspace.com.mx (main.netspace.com.mx [207.3.131.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id IAA07735 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 08:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [207.3.131.93] by netspace.com.mx with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Thu, 5 Jun 1997 10:00:44 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jitr@postmodern.com From: johnny@netspace.com.mx (Juan Manuel Garcia) Subject: Found on the net Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 10:00:44 -0600 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi all, I found on the net; about Sinead from newsgroups: alt.sex subject: "RE:Sinead o'Connor again bashing catholics" johnny..... From jitr-owner Thu Jun 5 15:13:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id PAA08761 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 15:13:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail.vcr.istar.ca (mail.vcr.iSTAR.ca [204.191.152.4]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id PAA08756 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 15:13:55 -0700 (PDT) From: jvpai@istar.ca Received: from ts20-14.vcr.iSTAR.ca [204.191.154.157] by mail.vcr.istar.ca with smtp (Exim 1.62 #10) id 0wZkmX-0004x7-00; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 15:13:22 -0700 X-Sender: jvpai@istar.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 14:12:31 -0700 To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: 2 stars out of 5 Message-Id: Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Here's a less than glowing review of the gospel oak ep from today's newspaper: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** (out of 5) If it weren't for the dedication on the liner notes - "these songs are dedicated to the people of israel, rwanda and ireland" - and the final song on this six-cut 'extended play' release, one might suspect the fully folicled (ed: she has hair now) sinead had lost her edge. The record begins so softly, so peacefully, that all you feel is warm, fuzzy waves of mothering energy. Gone is the shrieking, the yelling and razor-sharp political rants. And sadly, for some of us _lion and the cobra_ lovers, the shrieking tirades at the establishment bastions of power were the best part. The fifth track, "this is a rebel song", is the one song that passes through several gentle movements and actually succeeds in being memorable - even though it doesn't feel like a 'rebel song' at all. Over-all, gospel oak is along the lines of an adult lullaby. The percussion is kept to a bare minimum, the beat is lethargic and her vocals are fully restrained. If the songs relied more on good melody instead of graceful instrumental layering and o'connor's technically-improved voice, all that restraint would have been a welcome change. As it spins, however, there's just not enough here to pull you in. -katherine monk, the vancouver sun -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I can't remember if anyone mentioned anthing about the 20 seconds or so of male singing after 'he walked through the fair'...any special significance?? jenny. From jitr-owner Thu Jun 5 16:54:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id QAA09012 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 16:54:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from callisto.uwinnipeg.ca (brana@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca [142.132.1.23]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id QAA09007 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 16:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (brana@localhost) by callisto.uwinnipeg.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA06755; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 18:55:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 18:55:30 -0500 (CDT) From: bilal rana To: jvpai@istar.ca cc: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: re: famine festival, june 1, ireland In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ >From marcels tourdates page I saw that sinead was performing on june 1, in ireland. I really wanted to go!! but i couldnt make it! If any one went, a review would be much appreciated. thanx, bilal. From jitr-owner Fri Jun 6 00:18:02 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id AAA11575 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 00:18:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id AAA11570 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 00:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (ah52.pi.net [145.220.203.52]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA01954 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 09:17:51 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 09:17:51 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970606090622.09c7287e@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: anna@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 09:06:22 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Eduard Verheijen Subject: Sinead order?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi. In your latest update i saw again: Sinead o'connor, this is to mother you, rare uk promo video p/s. I just keep trying. If you have it i would like to order it. Thanks. Eduard Verheijen (m 39270) ************************************* * Eduard Verheijen * ************************************* From jitr-owner Fri Jun 6 07:44:07 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id HAA12367 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 07:44:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from netspace.com.mx (main.netspace.com.mx [207.3.131.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id HAA12362 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 07:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [207.3.131.84] by netspace.com.mx with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Fri, 6 Jun 1997 09:41:00 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jitr@postmodern.com From: johnny@netspace.com.mx (Juan Manuel Garcia) Subject: RE: Found on the net Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 09:41:00 -0600 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ At 10:00 AM 6/5/97 -0600, you wrote: >I found on the net; > >about Sinead from newsgroups: alt.sex >subject: "RE:Sinead o'Connor again bashing catholics" > >johnny..... > > >christine wrote: >hi...may i know wat is the address of the newsgroup so i can go check it out? thanx Hi Christine, Check with News Server Address: new.sar.net or news.udg.mx to newsgroups: alt.sex bye, johnny From jitr-owner Fri Jun 6 13:48:18 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id NAA13436 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 13:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pine.liii.com (pine.liii.com [198.207.193.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id NAA13431 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 13:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rowan.liii.com by pine.liii.com with ESMTP (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA23125; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 20:48:01 GMT Received: from localhost (srudy@localhost) by rowan.liii.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA23675 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 16:48:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rowan.liii.com: srudy owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 16:47:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Sheila To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Guiness Fleadh Festival Tickets Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Sorry to interrupt, but I'm fairly desperate. I have 5 tickets to the Guiness Fleadh Festival that I *have* to get rid of. The festivl is going to be held on Saturday June 14 from 11am to 11pm on Randall's Island in NYC. The tickets are $60 each general admission, American Xpress VIP (which I think includes a schedule bus and some sort of special pass, but I could find out more about that) Of course, Sinead O'Connor will be there along with Van Morrison, and many many more artists of an Irish heritage. There will be 3 stages of continuous music. I am willing to negotiate. Thanks very much, Sheila Rudy From jitr-owner Fri Jun 6 15:21:06 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id PAA13750 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 15:21:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from emout05.mail.aol.com (emout05.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.96]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id PAA13745 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 15:20:50 -0700 (PDT) From: TisHmslf@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout05.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id SAA27746 for jitr@postmodern.com; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 18:20:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 18:20:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970606182003_-827379759@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Concert in LA Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ hELL0, Just wanted to know if anyone else here besides me, will be going to the L.A. concert, and if so do yu already have your tickets, I have had the hardest time finding anyone that would even confirm that Sineads Concert in LA will happen(Even after I told them that EMI records has confirmed that she will perform in (LA)...I've been calling every ticket place I could find, and still not one of them says anything, except OH, THE Sinead/Pretenders is cancelled(as if I didnt know :- ) Well, If anyone has any ticket information, please lemme know..and for all those who wasted their time reading this, and said "who cares, I'm not in CA, so why did he put this here". sorry, but I was just B!tC*ing.... Sincerely dislikes TicketMaster jeff* From jitr-owner Fri Jun 6 15:46:58 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id PAA13854 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 15:46:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca (bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca [128.100.132.11]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id PAA13849 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 15:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from log3 ([128.100.100.195]) by bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca with SMTP id <794994(4)>; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 18:46:31 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 18:46:25 -0400 From: suzy.aston@utoronto.ca X-Sender: suzy.aston@log3 To: TisHmslf@aol.com cc: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Concert in LA In-Reply-To: <970606182003_-827379759@emout05.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ > Just wanted to know if anyone else here besides me, will be going to > the L.A. concert, and if so do yu already have your tickets, I have had the > hardest time finding anyone that would even confirm that Sineads Concert in > LA will happen(Even after I told them that EMI records has confirmed that she > will perform in (LA)...I've been calling every ticket place I could find, and > still not one of them says anything, except OH, THE Sinead/Pretenders is > cancelled(as if I didnt know :- ) > Well, If anyone has any ticket information, please lemme know..and for I ran into the same problem last year when I was trying to find out info for another band. Ticketmaster et al. won't *know* anything until the concert is *officially* announced, which is usually about 5 or 6 days before the tickets go on sale. So if TM doesn't know anything, well that's a good sign. Just keep your ears open for concert announcements on the radio and to help others, maybe tell it to the list when you do hear it :) My own question, does anyone know the rate that these tickets will sell? Sinead has been lying low, but she does have a sold fan base, will they go quickly then? Suzy From jitr-owner Fri Jun 6 23:56:23 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id XAA14843 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 23:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id XAA14838 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 23:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mangal.cs.huji.ac.il by cs.huji.ac.il with SMTP id AA01299 (5.67b/HUJI 4.153 for ); Sat, 7 Jun 1997 09:55:40 +0300 Received: from localhost (yogon@localhost) by mangal.cs.huji.ac.il (8.7/1.1c) with SMTP id JAA01636 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 09:55:39 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mangal.cs.huji.ac.il: yogon owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 09:55:39 +0300 (IDT) From: Yoav Gonen To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: correction... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I'm sorry, I want to correct myself. Sinead WILL appear in the Sultan's Pool on the 21th and this is final. However, I was right about her being invited by a left wing organization. the concert will be under the call: "Two states and two cities for two people" which means for simple: the division of Jerusalem between the Israelies and the Palestinians. I don't know if Sinead realize that most of us in Israel take these stuff very seriously and most of us refuse to any division of Jerusalem. So I'm not sure that after all these ads Sinead will have easy times in her visit, and I'm not sure at all that her concert will be taken without any protest from the crowd. Bye, Yoav. From jitr-owner Sun Jun 8 05:35:54 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id FAA21643 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 05:35:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id FAA21637 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 05:35:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm1-14.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.206]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA03503 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 14:35:44 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970608123641.0077edec@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 12:36:41 +0200 To: JITR From: Mars-L Subject: Gospel Oak EP details wanted Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, I am looking for the details of every possible available version of The Gospel Oak EP. Till yet all I know of are the; Japanese 5 track cd-single UK 4 track cd-single Holland 6 track cd-single UK 4 track 12" vinyl release. If you have another release (GER, US, CAN, ITALY, FRA etc etc.....) please send the next details to me; tracks + titles catalogue number Country of release promo/official release ??? eventually special remarks ! THANX for helping to complete the discography ! ---------- M A R S - L ------------------------------------------------------ Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead_main_page.htm NEW !! CHATPAGE - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/chat.htm ---------- FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE ---------- From jitr-owner Sun Jun 8 05:35:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id FAA21662 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 05:35:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id FAA21638 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 05:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm1-14.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.206]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA03500 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 14:35:43 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970608122637.0077edec@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 12:26:37 +0200 To: JITR From: Mars-L Subject: US releases WANTED Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Is there someone who is willing to buy me the limited edition of the Gospel Oak EP, the one with the bonus track, available at stores who buy through Alliance Distribution Also I am looking for the Video/CD package only available through Borders ---------- M A R S - L ------------------------------------------------------ Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead_main_page.htm NEW !! CHATPAGE - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/chat.htm ---------- FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE ---------- From jitr-owner Sun Jun 8 05:36:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id FAA21681 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 05:36:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@[194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id FAA21657 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 05:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm1-14.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.206]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA03488 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 14:35:33 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970608120249.00779800@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 12:02:49 +0200 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Mars-L Subject: JENA ? In-Reply-To: <199706060800.BAA11749@server.postmodern.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, >Subject: Re: jitr-digest V3 #131 Sinead in JENA ???!! >Yesterday I read on a "black board" in my university that Sinead will >perform in Jena (Eastern Germany). Does anybody know more about this Gig? >I can remember that the festival is called KULTUR-ARENA. Daniel, might this be the concert mentioned without details on the EMI-site ? planned for July 25th ? They just mention she will perform on that date in Germany, but don't mention where. ---------- M A R S - L ------------------------------------------------------ Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead_main_page.htm NEW !! CHATPAGE - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/chat.htm ---------- FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE ---------- From jitr-owner Sun Jun 8 05:36:26 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id FAA21712 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 05:36:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id FAA21707 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 05:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm1-14.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.206]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA03536 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 14:36:00 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970608143519.0077edec@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 14:35:19 +0200 To: JITR From: Mars-L Subject: Concert reviews needed !!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Is there someone who have seen one of the next shows, or even better all of them :-), if so, please send me a review of it, even just a set list would be enough, but ofcourse a review of the first second till the last is even better !!! Don't matter how big or small it is ! Even just mentioning you where there is better then nothing, I need to know wether these concert really took place. June 1st 1997 Ireland, millstreet in co. cork, Famine Event Festival June 5th 1997 England, Portsmouth, Pyramids Centre June 6th 1997 England, Norwich, University of East Anglia ---------- M A R S - L ------------------------------------------------------ Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead_main_page.htm NEW !! CHATPAGE - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/chat.htm ---------- FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE ---------- From jitr-owner Sun Jun 8 05:37:57 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id FAA21796 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 05:37:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id FAA21775 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 05:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm1-14.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.206]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA03601 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 14:37:28 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970608143725.0077f834@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 14:37:25 +0200 To: JITR From: Mars-L Subject: Concert reviews needed !!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Oooops, wanted to say also; Even a review of a (local) magazine is more then welcome !!! From jitr-owner Sun Jun 8 07:29:52 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id HAA22210 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 07:29:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id HAA22205 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 07:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (ah30.pi.net [145.220.203.30]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA27584 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 16:29:22 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Sun, 8 Jun 1997 16:29:22 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970608155711.098f0f2c@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: anna@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 15:57:11 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Eduard Verheijen Subject: Video prices Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I got some mails recently from people asking me about the prices of those sinead video's i had (and have) to offer with all the different clips on it and so on. I ask $20 for one tape, let me explain why. I have to buy a blank video tape for every copy i make. I'm living in the Netherlands and blank video-tapes costs about $6 here. I only have one vcr so everytime i have 'enough' people wanting a video tape i go to a video store and rent a vcr for a weekend. This cost me $10. I have a lot of video clips on the official promo video's wich i payd between the $10 and $20 for (this for only one clip from say 3/4 minutes). Those clips are not on one tape i put in the vcr player and let's dub, no, every 4 minutes i have to put a new video in the player to record one clip. That means that i'm making $4 profit on one tape while i cannot do anything else during that period. So, if you ever wondered why a video tape here costs $$20, that's the reason why. Eduard (who is thinking hard on not doing any more of those video's) ************************************* * Eduard Verheijen * ************************************* From jitr-owner Sun Jun 8 07:54:50 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id HAA22308 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 07:54:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id HAA22303 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 07:54:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm1-18.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.210]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA07018 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 16:54:37 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970608160659.00ae9410@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 16:06:59 +0200 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Mars-L Subject: Factory Girl In-Reply-To: <199706040800.BAA02539@server.postmodern.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Rolando wrote; >I've finally discovered the title of the second song performed by Sinead in >Rome on May 1st. The song is called "The Factory Girl" and it is a >traditional one. As not even Mars-L knew it, as presume Sinead has never sung >it before (at public performances, of course). >The following notes are taken from the booklet of the Bothy Band's album >"Out Of The Wind Into The Sun" (1977): >The arrangement by the Bothy Band is very different from the Sinead's one. Is there any possibility you can find the lyrics to this song ???? Or someone else ??? ------------------------------ Also someone wrote about the Sinead Questionnaire Results Page on my Sinead Site; >This page is most interesting, though I'm a little puzzled by it. "I Do >Not Want What I Haven't Got" comes in a distant third place for Best >Album?! I didn't think there was much question that this was her best >album (certainly the critics think so), but it's a little shocking that it >would fall this low in any case. I think I'd put the #1 ranking "The Lion >and the Cobra" in third place even somewhere after "Universal Mother," but >not by too much. It just doesn't seem as mature or accomplished as the >other two. "Am I Not Your Girl" probably shouldn't be compared with the >others. The results are exactly what they say; Results of a Questionnaire about Sineads Music, nothing more nothing less. Till now over a 100 people have filled in the questionnaire and most of them are fans, who have heard more of her music then most magazine-critics who must listen to the songs just to make a living wether they like the album or not and wether they know her previous material or not. The results are not based on any logical/explainable comparising with the other albums, just the taste of fans. Though the albums are not compared by officials on logical comparisments I do think the ranking of those 4 albums is very good, even though UM is my favorite. All the other results (singles/B-sides/guest etc) are discussable because a lot of people who did fill in the questionnaire haven't heard all the rare songs. So it's logical Troy and Nothing Compares 2 U are always nr. 1 or close to nr 1. ---------- M A R S - L ------------------------------------------------------ Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead_main_page.htm NEW !! CHATPAGE - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/chat.htm ---------- FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE ---------- From jitr-owner Sun Jun 8 10:20:33 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA22813 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 10:20:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id KAA22806 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 10:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm1-08.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.200]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA10219 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 19:20:18 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970608184109.006ed9f0@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 18:41:09 +0200 To: JITR From: Mars-L Subject: Re: Jerusalem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, >Yoav Gonen wrote on jitr: > >>I'm sorry, I want to correct myself. Sinead WILL appear in the >Sultan's >>Pool on the 21th and this is final. However, I was right about her >being >>invited by a left wing organization. the concert will be under the >call: >>"Two states and two cities for two people" which means for simple: >the >>division of Jerusalem between the Israelies and the Palestinians. I >don't >>know if Sinead realize that most of us in Israel take these stuff >>very >>seriously and most of us refuse to any division of Jerusalem. So I'm >not >>sure that after all these ads Sinead will have easy times in her >>visit, >>and I'm not sure at all that her concert will be taken without any >protest >>from the crowd. > >Bye, >Yoav. > I doubt very much whether she was aware of this, but I am sure she is now. For reasons (unknown to me which ones), Sinead's appearance at this event has now been cancelled. ---------- M A R S - L ------------------------------------------------------ Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead_main_page.htm NEW !! CHATPAGE - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/chat.htm ---------- FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE ---------- From jitr-owner Sun Jun 8 10:20:38 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA22832 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 10:20:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id KAA22807 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 10:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm1-08.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.200]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA10229 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 19:20:22 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970608185106.006ed9f0@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 18:51:06 +0200 To: JITR From: Mars-L Subject: Gospel Oak review Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, This review of The Gospel Oak EP, was found on the Net by Mandy Green, and is printed here without permission of the writer.....(Bad me) THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO SIN=C9AD=20 Sin=E9ad O'Connor abandons her campaign to become the J.D. Salinger of rock 'n' roll and returns with a brief but powerful EP.=20 In a long list of mercurial artists that defy commercial expectations (one that includes Bob Dylan and Neil Young at its head), Sin=E9ad O'Connor stand= s out for several reasons. First off, the amount of hostility she has been able to generate in this country, particularly by ripping up a picture of the Pope on Saturday Night Live and refusing to have the national anthem played at one of her concerts, is startling. Five years later, people who have never even heard one of her records still get all riled up at the mere mention of her name. Secondly, her strange flirtation with the top of the pop charts and subsequent hasty retreat didn't come after many years of a prolific career, as in the case of Dylan or Young, but after just seven years and a handful of albums in the public eye. O'Connor seemed to compress an entire career into that short time span. She retreated so rapidly into her shell that, after her so-so 1994 album Universal Mother, many thought she would never return to performing again. Luckily she has, and this unfortunately brief EP contains some of the best work she has done since her classic 1990 album I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got.=20 Gospel Oak continues many of the lyrical themes that have haunted O'Connor's work -- the Irish revolt, motherhood, death and rebirth -- and adds a strong production that strengthens the melancholy and sweetens the melodies. As with Dylan and Young, it's easy to read all kinds of messages into the mythic nature of her lyrics. Is she singing to a real-life lover? To her troubled homeland? To her loyal and disloyal fans? In the lead-off track, This Is to Mother You, sheseductively promises her lover (her country? her fans?) the maternal love they have always been denied: "This is to be with you/To hold you and to kiss you too/For when you need me I will do/What your own mother didn't do/Which is to mother you." In the lush "I Am Enough for Myself" she declares her independence from everything but God, and in the beautiful "This Is a Rebel Song" she gently confronts the UK over its treatment of Ireland over the centuries, gracefully avoiding shrill politics. There's really not a bad track on this EP, and it only makes the listener wish that O'Connor would capitalize on this creative resurgence and return with a full-length album as soon as possible. -- John McPartlin ---------- M A R S - L= ------------------------------------------------------ Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor -= http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead_main_page.htm NEW !! CHATPAGE - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/chat.htm ---------- FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE ---------= - From jitr-owner Sun Jun 8 10:20:41 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA22846 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 10:20:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id KAA22818 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 10:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm1-08.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.200]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA10245 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 19:20:28 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970608190117.006ed9f0@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 19:01:17 +0200 To: JITR From: Mars-L Subject: Q magazine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, A message from Mandy Green; There's an item of news in this month's "Q" MAGAZINE - Sinead is back in the studios (Metropolis) recording with Steve Osbourne - don't know what exactly - maybe just a series of future B-sides and remixes - EMI/Chrysalis here in London don't know/ and/or won't say!! ---------- M A R S - L ------------------------------------------------------ Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead_main_page.htm NEW !! CHATPAGE - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/chat.htm ---------- FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE ---------- From jitr-owner Mon Jun 9 06:17:57 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id GAA27294 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 06:17:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from server1.rz.uni-leipzig.de (daemon@server1.rz.uni-leipzig.de [139.18.1.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id GAA27289 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 06:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from studserv.uni-leipzig.de by server1.rz.uni-leipzig.de with SMTP (1.37.109.20/16.2) id AA032362260; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 15:17:41 +0200 Received: by studserv.uni-leipzig.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA88305; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 15:17:38 +0200 Message-Id: <9706091317.AA88305@studserv.uni-leipzig.de> Subject: Sinead performs in Jena! To: jitr@postmodern.com Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 15:17:37 +0200 (MESZ) From: "" In-Reply-To: <199706090800.BAA26634@server.postmodern.com> from "owner-jitr-digest@postmodern.com" at Jun 9, 97 01:00:11 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, everybody! Last week I told you that there were rumors about sinead playing in Eastern Germany this summer. Well, it's no rumor any longer - on Friday I called the JENA INFORMATION SERVICE and a friendly woman told me that Sinead is this "Pop-Irin O'Conner" (as it was written on my university's blackboard)! The concert will be on FRIDAY, 25th of July (Mars-L, you were right!), the location is to be confirmed. They also told me that 3000 tickets will be available, the ticket sale will start this Wednesday. Jena is located in "Thueringen", one of the five "new" federal states of Germany. Of course, I will go to the concert. Information about the price of a ticket is coming soon! DANIEL. From jitr-owner Mon Jun 9 08:46:02 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id IAA27817 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 08:46:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from emout20.mail.aol.com (emout20.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.46]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id IAA27812 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 08:45:58 -0700 (PDT) From: LAdamsEMI@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id LAA24444 for jitr@postmodern.com; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 11:45:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 11:45:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970609114323_124045317@emout20.mail.aol.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: jitr-digest Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi everyone, I don't know if this has been mentioned, but there is a really good article on "Gospel Oak" in the May 22 issue of the online music mag "Addicted To Noise". www.addict.com The easiest way to find the article (in my opinion, anyway) is to scroll down to the bottom of their home page, click on the "Search" and then type in Sinead's name. Later, Linda P.S. Sinead will tour the US with a band (11 members total)! From jitr-owner Mon Jun 9 09:42:37 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id JAA27959 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 09:42:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from electra.cc.umanitoba.ca (root@electra.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.16.23]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id JAA27954 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 09:42:31 -0700 (PDT) From: ngodava@cc.UManitoba.CA Received: from pollux.cc.umanitoba.ca (ngodava@pollux.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.16.6]) by electra.cc.umanitoba.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA18612 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 11:42:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: by pollux.cc.umanitoba.ca (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07029; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 11:41:35 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 11:41:35 -0500 (CDT) Cc: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Sinead in Toronto? In-Reply-To: <970609114323_124045317@emout20.mail.aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I remember a message a little while ago saying that Sinead was performing in Toronto. Does anyone have the particulars (e.g. the date)? Thanks very much! Norma Godavari From jitr-owner Mon Jun 9 12:20:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id MAA28348 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 12:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id MAA28343 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 12:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mangal.cs.huji.ac.il by cs.huji.ac.il with SMTP id AA22043 (5.67b/HUJI 4.153 for ); Mon, 9 Jun 1997 22:19:23 +0300 Received: from localhost (yogon@localhost) by mangal.cs.huji.ac.il (8.7/1.1c) with SMTP id WAA02029 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 22:19:22 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mangal.cs.huji.ac.il: yogon owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 22:19:22 +0300 (IDT) From: Yoav Gonen Reply-To: Yoav Gonen To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Gospel Oak etc. In-Reply-To: <199706060800.BAA11749@server.postmodern.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On the new cd ads here in Israel it was said that Sinead writes on the cd-cover that the songs are dedicated to the people of Israel. This is, of course, very pleasing to the ears. However, on the sleeve it is written: "These songs are dedicated to the people of Israel, Rwanda & Northern Ireland". Now this is umiliating! I mean, putting Israel, which is a western and modern country, with Rwanda. To a common Israeli this would really be umiliating. However, thinking about it, I believe that Sinead refers to the hatered between the citizens in these three countries that should be stopped. I remember how, 1.5 years ago, when our PM Ramin was murdered, our small country was in front a civil war. Just like in northern Ireland. I believe now that a civil war would have been caused unless each of us knew that we still must unite against a greater enemy: The Arabs. But despite that, the differences, and even the hatered between the seculars and the religious Jews in Israel remain. Sinead wants to tell us in this cd that we should love each other more. Yoav. From jitr-owner Mon Jun 9 15:29:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id PAA28914 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 15:29:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com (emout18.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.44]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id PAA28909 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 15:28:57 -0700 (PDT) From: MillerWO1@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id SAA23185 for jitr@server.postmodern.com; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 18:28:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 18:28:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970609182813_321328017@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: Video Price Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ In a message dated 6/8/97 9:44:48 AM, you wrote: <> Actually, you're making more than $4 profit per tape... if you wait until you have a lot of people to rent the extra VCR, then the cost of that VCR rental is divided by the number of people you're copying tapes for... Quite a hefty profit... not huge, but more than enough for your "effort" to reproduce (copyrighted?) material... Andy From jitr-owner Mon Jun 9 15:54:17 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id PAA29106 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 15:54:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from emout02.mail.aol.com (emout02.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.93]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id PAA29101 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 15:53:47 -0700 (PDT) From: MonkyNwntr@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout02.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id SAA13542 for jitr@postmodern.com; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 18:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 18:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970609185218_-2066794404@emout02.mail.aol.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Rolling Stones Review Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Just incase anyone cared what RollingStones Mag. had 2 say.. :- ) Sinead O'Connor (EMI) On the surface, Sinead O'Connor's six-song EP, "Gospel Oak," is a soothing hot tub of Celtic New Age atmospherics and polite hip-hop grooves. Barely audible over the Jacuzzi-friendly instrumentation is the sound of O'Connor talking to herself. Listen closely to what she says and this record doesn't seem quite so comforting. The effect is like eavesdropping on a bedside prayer or a 2 a.m. conversation between an embattled couple. "Your rage is like a fist in my womb," O'Connor sings in a hushed voice, as though trying not to wake the baby in the next room. "Can't you forgive what you think I've done?" There are songs about mothering and motherhood, spiritual orphans and distant lovers, and, on "This Is a Rebel Song," barriers both emotional and political that separate an Irishwoman from the "hard Englishman" she craves to understand. But the O'Connor who attacked high notes with biblical fury on her debut album a decade ago is long gone, and she could stand to make a few more ripples on this relatively placid release. The blend of funky drummer beats and Irish instrumental inflections on "Petit Poulet" and "4 My Love" is enticing, but too often, "Gospel Oak" suggests the mystic easy listening of O'Connor's countrywoman Enya. At the very least, "Gospel Oak" is well-crafted: The melodies are slight but stately; the production unobtrusive, although the occasional use of unnatural reverb and multitracking to thicken O'Connor's voice is a distraction. She's at her best when the gimmicks and sweeteners are cleared away. On "He Moved Through the Fair," accompanied by little more than an acoustic guitar and atmospheric keyboards, O'Connor is miked so closely, one can hear her inhaling before starting a phrase. It's a rare unguarded moment in a record that exposes its scars almost too tastefully. (RS 763) GREG KOT From jitr-owner Mon Jun 9 22:25:01 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id WAA00294 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 22:25:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.34]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id WAA00288 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 22:24:55 -0700 (PDT) From: LongShips@aol.com Received: from emout16.mail.aol.com (emout16.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.42]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Miles-970308-2) with ESMTP id UAA27859 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 20:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA10933 for jitr@server.postmodern.com; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 23:19:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 23:19:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970609231823_519163449@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: Gospel Oak etc. Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Yaov wrote >"On the new cd ads here in Israel it was said that Sinead writes on the >cd-cover that the songs are dedicated to the people of Israel. This is, of >course, very pleasing to the ears. However, on the sleeve it is written: >These songs are dedicated to the people of Israel, Rwanda & Northern >Ireland". Now this is umiliating! I mean, putting Israel, which is a >western and modern country, with Rwanda. To a common Israeli this would >really be umiliating. However, thinking about it, I believe that Sinead >refers to the hatered between the citizens in these three countries >that should be stopped. I remember how, 1.5 years ago, when our PM Ramin >was murdered, our small country was in front a civil war. Just like in >northern Ireland. I believe now that a civil war would have been caused >unless each of us knew that we still must unite against a greater >enemy: The Arabs. But despite that, the differences, and even the hatered >between the seculars and the religious Jews in Israel remain. >Sinead wants to tell us in this cd that we should love each other more. >Yoav. Yaov, I would prefer if you kept your racist comments about "the Arabs" and Rwanda off the list. If you listened to Sine/ad's music carefully you would realize that she sings of peace for ALL humanity. I think songs like "This IS a rebel song" could just as well apply to Isreal as to Northern Ireland. Try listening to the music. From jitr-owner Mon Jun 9 22:27:06 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id WAA00407 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 22:27:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.34]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id WAA00402 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 22:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lulu.acns.nwu.edu (lulu.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.54]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Miles-970308-2) with ESMTP id SAA26793 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 18:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jnt207.nwu.edu (legume186149.nuts.nwu.edu) by lulu.acns.nwu.edu with SMTP (1.40.112.8/20.4) id AA198917607; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 20:53:27 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 20:53:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199706100153.AA198917607@lulu.acns.nwu.edu> X-Sender: jnt207@lulu.acns.nwu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: JITR From: Ju Nguan Tan (by way of Ju Nguan Tan ) Subject: Sinead: London Times Review Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ A talent for passionate pop Your news selection in Sin=E9ad O'Connor the Personal UEA, Norwich Times SINEAD O'CONNOR'S reputation paints her as a [Image] latter-day John Lennon. She has the same predilection for provocative political Next page: gestures, the same obsessive reworking of her Classical relationship with her mother, even the same concert - desire to include her offspring on her OAE/Rattle, recordings. But, crucially, she also shares a Queen talent for turning her insecurities and anger Elizabeth into passionate pop music. Hall, London There was little sign of the firebrand during [Contact Us] this concert, one of her first UK performances since 1995. True, the second song was Famine, a polemic against English imperialism and Irish oppression. This, however, is the mildest form of rap, delivered with the soothing assurance of a Sunday schoolteacher, and decorated with bewitching snatches of Eleanor Rigby. Yet her refusal to rant gives the sentiments a quiet authority. O'Connor has the knack of seeming both vulnerable and assured, both fragile and resilient. She can appear to be shy. Her stage chat is mumbled into the microphone, her words swallowed in embarrassment. Her awkwardness is mirrored in the gawky discomfort of her four backing singers. But when they joined together on This Is To Mother You from her new EP, the breathy hesitancy of the opening is swept away upon a gospel chorus of five voices locked in harmony. These days her music has a strong Celtic feel, but it is folk singing mixed with the swagger of rock and the sway of reggae and Irish reels. Her six-piece band help to mark out the emotional storyline of her songs. Thank You for Hearing Me starts as a lilting traditional song, O'Connor's voice shimmering on the surface; but before long it is joined by Clare Kenny's rumbling bass and the song billows into life, like a becalmed yacht catching a gust of wind. Her show opens with The Emperor's New Clothes and closes with Fire on Babylon, two stridently confident songs. In between, the emotional territory is more confused, and more intriguing, especially on the beautiful John I Love You (from Universal Mother) and Petit Poulet (from the Gospel Oak EP). Her singing is often unadorned and understated, and often buried in the mix, but suddenly it will break free in an exhilarating, preening swoop. She may no longer be the feisty, cussed woman she once was, but O'Connor is still a captivating performer. JOHN STREET Copyright 1997 Times Newspapers Limited From jitr-owner Mon Jun 9 22:29:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id WAA00552 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 22:29:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from miles.greatcircle.com (miles.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.34]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id WAA00546; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 22:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mach1.wlu.ca (mach1.wlu.ca [192.54.242.17]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Miles-970308-2) with SMTP id QAA23613; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 16:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mach1.wlu.ca (8.6.12/1.35) id TAA08500; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 19:21:40 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 19:21:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Kobe u Subject: The Fleadh To: jitr@postmodern.com cc: jitr-digest@server.postmodern.com In-Reply-To: <199706090800.BAA26634@server.postmodern.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello every one, I am flying down to new york from toronto to see the sinead show at the festival. I was just wondering if any other people that are going are going to try to meet somewhere or something. Also I am staying in NY for the monday to check out some of the sites. Anyone who is interested is more than welcome to join me. Later Rob From jitr-owner Tue Jun 10 05:43:08 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id FAA03475 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 05:43:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id FAA03470 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 05:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (ah57.pi.net [145.220.203.57]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA06858 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 14:42:43 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 14:42:43 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970610142602.2c1f3728@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: anna@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 14:26:02 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Eduard Verheijen Subject: Sinead video's for sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi all. I ran into a place were they sell cheaper video tapes, this making it possible to reduce the prices of the video tapes. Unfortunately i can not refund already done deals (or deals going on now) becouse i myself paid more for those tapes too. But e-mail me and we will work something out. Anyway. The video tapes i have to sell are all recorded in the european PAL-VHS standard, wich means that people living in the usa have to watch them on a video wich can play both the PAL and NTSC system or have to go to a photo store or video rental place and try to copy them there again into NTSC.. The tapes are: - VIDEO CLIPS TAPE (with almost all her clips) $15 A visual presentation of the lion and the cobra including Troy (running time 11 minutes) Mandinka I want your hands on me Jump in the river Nothing compares 2u The emperor's new clothes Three babies My special child Succes has made a failure of our home (& add. footage) You do something to me You made me the thief of my heart Fire on babylon Thank you for hearing me This is to mother you Don't give up (with W. Nelson) Ship ahoy (with Marxman) Kingdom of rain (with The The) Visions of you (with jah wobble) Haunted (with Shane McGowan) Blood of Eden (with Peter Gabriel) (& additional footage) A VIDEO WITH CONCERTS $15 Live at Pinkpop, the netherlands 1995 (50 min) Live at Sultans Pool, jerusalem 1995 (50 min) Later with Jools Holland show (25 min) Concert for the Kurdish refugees (15 min)(with Peter Gabriel & Sting)(my special child/don't give up) Live in Italy 1997 (this is to mother you, The factory girl) (10 min) [on request i will also include the live concert 'year of the horse and value of ignorance] A VIDEO WITH RARE THINGS $15 This is to mother you (live at top of the pops 1997) This is to mother you (early different version, live 1996) Mother (live at the wall concert 1990) Coffee and sigarettes (a special about the making of am i not your girl)(50 minutes) The glory of Gerswin ( aspecial about the making of 'My man's gone now)(20 minutes) MTV's most wanted 1995 (irish ways and Irish laws) MTV'S unplugged MTV'S most wanted 1994 ( I am enough for myself) Sacrafice (from Two rooms, celebrating Elton John) War (live from saturday night live - the famous pope scandal) War (live at the Bob Dylan 30th anniversary concert)(the booed of stage incident) A duet with van Morrison Fire on Babylon (live at a german tv show) (2 different recordings) Thank you for hearing me (live at a german tv show)(not the same show as above) Don't cry for me Argentina (live at another german tv show) Universal mother, commercial on tv Winning all the grammy's in 1990 and performing 'nothing compares 2u' Sinead and the chieftains in the studio recording the album Long black veil A crying sinead in a Kurdish refugees concert interview Danny boy (sinead performing the Irish national anthem) Thank you for hearing me/ john I love you (live at a tv show) Billboard awards 1990 A news item on the pope scandal (spoken in spanish) LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE MOVIE HUSH A BYE BABY $10 This movie is a Irish story about child abuse (irish/english spoken) in wich sinead features a minor role) All four video tapes together go for $50 ============================================================ Further i have a lot of audio tapes of live concerts and stuff (just included some new ones, so ask for a new updated list) ============================================================ Some other things still left to sell: Mother.....The wall live concert featuring sinead performing mother, 2xLP $15 Thank you for hearing me, dutch 2 track cd single $7 Emperor's new clothes/ I am stretched on your grave, remixes promo, very rare $15 Heroine, sinead's song from 1986, on the soundtrack of the film Captive, cd, $15 Kingdom of rain, sinead's duet with The The, on their cd Mind bomb, cd, $15 Kingdom of rain, sinead's duet with The The, on their cd Mind bomb, lp, $5 My special child, 7" single, $7 This is to mother you, UK 4 track 12" record in gatefold sleeve $12 Feel free to e-mail me if you see anything you like, if you want video's, if you have questions, or want a list with live audio concerts. Eduard ************************************* * Eduard Verheijen * ************************************* From jitr-owner Tue Jun 10 06:33:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id GAA03627 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 06:33:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id GAA03622 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 06:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mangal.cs.huji.ac.il by cs.huji.ac.il with SMTP id AA09168 (5.67b/HUJI 4.153 for ); Tue, 10 Jun 1997 16:32:11 +0300 Received: from localhost (yogon@localhost) by mangal.cs.huji.ac.il (8.7/1.1c) with SMTP id QAA22539 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 16:32:11 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mangal.cs.huji.ac.il: yogon owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 16:32:10 +0300 (IDT) From: Yoav Gonen To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: jitr-digest V3 #135 In-Reply-To: <199706100800.BAA02875@server.postmodern.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I really don't think that this issue is interesting at all but I still must reply to that one. > From: LongShips@aol.com > Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 23:19:54 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: Gospel Oak etc. > > Yaov, I would prefer if you kept your racist comments about "the Arabs" and > Rwanda off the list. If you listened to Sine/ad's music carefully you would ... It is very easy to attach a stigma of a "racist" to a person. All I said was that Israel is a modern country, and Rwanda is not (which is true) and that the Arabs are our greatest enemy (which is also true). There is nothing racist at all about it, of course, and I far from being one. In fact, I belong to the left-wing in our society, and I'm a great Labour supporter. But it seems to be so easy to write that someone is "racist", isn't it? Yoav. From jitr-owner Tue Jun 10 09:45:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id JAA04563 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 09:45:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from degas.telebyte.nl (root@degas.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.15]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id JAA04555 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 09:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login.telebyte.nl (pm1-10.nmg.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.202]) by degas.telebyte.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA19461 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 18:44:37 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970610184350.00703f40@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 18:43:50 +0200 To: JITR From: Mars-L Subject: US Gospel Oak Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, I just bought the US release of the gospel oak EP, and I was suprised to find out it's a double-cd. It seems like they first pressed the 6-track EP ready to be sold, and after it was finished they decided to add another song, and so included a bonus cd. The inlay doesn't even mention the extra cd, just a sticker on the jewelcase mentions it. They even put another sticker over the catalogue nr. to give it another catalogue number. So infact it's a 6+1 cd. Does there also exist a single cd containing all 7 tracks on one disc ???? BTW; EMI lied !! They mention that on the bonus cd there is a PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED track called Fire On Babylon Extended Version (that's what they say on the sticker) and on the disc they call the track Fire On Babylon (Eternal Recurrence Mix). Infact it's just the same track that already got released in 1994 on the (i.e.) Thank You For Hearing Me Part 1 CD released in the UK, called Fire On Babylon Remix....... ---------- M A R S - L ------------------------------------------------------ Email - bobbink@telebyte.nl Sinead O'Connor - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/sinead_main_page.htm NEW !! CHATPAGE - http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/sinead/chat.htm ---------- FOR TOURDATES, SONGS, DISCOGRAPHY, CHATPAGE & MUCH MORE ---------- From jitr-owner Tue Jun 10 11:42:51 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id LAA05048 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:42:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Rec