From jitr-owner Tue Jul 2 03:28:44 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id DAA29166 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 03:28:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from pat.uio.no (pat.uio.no [129.240.2.50]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id DAA29161 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 03:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <15532-0@pat.uio.no>; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:28:12 +0200 Received: from pchfstud8 by hedda.uio.no ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:28:08 +0200 Message-Id: <199607021028.MAA08586@hedda.uio.no> X-Sender: anners@hedda.uio.no X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 12:26:46 +0100 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Anne Ross Solberg Subject: UM, Michael Stipe Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ >From: paul kundarewich >Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 07:52:42 -0700 (PDT) >Subject: Sinead and UM > >And I don't believe that a "true fan" sinead wouldn't critisize her >work. That's part of the artistic process. Sinead is both an >artist and a person and you can separate the two. Actually, Sinead might oppose to that last statement. She was on the internet at Lollapolooza and then one of her replies was; "you cant separate the dancer from the dance. Or the singer from the song." I have to admit that I probably will never have the same feelings for UM as I have for TLaTC and IDNWWIHG. But I think that has as much to do with the time of the release as the actual quality of the albums. I think most people feel more strongly about their favourite artist`s first albums than the later ones, simply because that was when you truly discovered the artist. Or? I read in Q that Michael Stipe performed a cover-version of "The last day of our aquaintance" at an award-show(!) It would have been interesting to hear his interpretation, especially since "The last day.." is sort of a feminist-perspective song, the song that Sinead dedicates to the women in the audience at concerts. ################################################ ------------------------------------------------ "God is good. WE`RE the ones who have fucked it up. God is probably sitting up there biting his nails, he`s probably smoking a joint and thinking "Shit, what am I supposed to do now?" ------------------------------------------------ ...............Sinead O`Connor.................. ################################################ From jitr-owner Wed Jul 3 00:21:11 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id AAA01925 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 00:21:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id AAA01919 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 00:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (Arn40.pi.net [145.220.203.40]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA16741 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:19:58 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:19:58 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:19:58 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960703091814.1f372f04@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: anna@pop.pi.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Eduard Verheijen Subject: i want your hands on me Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello Yesterday i was lucky to buy a book about sinead in a mail order service. In this book there is a discografie wich mentions I want your hands on me, released april 1988, 12-inch, enyxr 613 contains knee trembler mix and hickey on me neck mix Does anybody know anything about this record, does anyone has these songs (on the record or on tape)???????????????. If so, i please do like to know more about it and am willing to pay a nice and good price for it. Hope somebody can help, and if you have it but don't want to sell, i'm still curious about the record and the versions on it, how the cover looks, the lenght of the songs etc.. Thanks...eduard ----------------------------------------------------- Eduard Verheijen Everybody knew, nobody said Take care, stay alive it's a shitty world out there ------------------------------------------------------ From jitr-owner Wed Jul 3 07:53:39 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id HAA04210 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 07:53:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from winnie.fit.edu (winnie.fit.edu [163.118.5.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id HAA04200 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 07:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mshea@localhost) by winnie.fit.edu (8.7.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA07974 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:00:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:00:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Shea To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Jerusalem! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi. I don't actively participate in discussions here very much, as I am a rather busy person (aren't we all!?). I usually just like to read all the stuff that really interests me. I've only been subscribed for a few months now, and thus far the most interesting discussion that I observed (to me, anyway) was on the meaning and origin of "I Am Stretched on Your Grave". All the talk and insight into that song gave me a whole new appreciation for it, and now I play it all the time! I was just hoping that we could do more of that. I know that the meanings of all Sinead's songs have probably been already discussed, but there are new people now and perhaps we could shed new light on some of them? We could probably go through most of Sinead's songs, as very few are straightforward, especially on "The Lion and the Cobra" and "Universal Mother". Like Jerusalem. I am studying the Bible now in my college Civilizations class, and it has got me to wondering about that song. Now, as far as "Jerusalem" goes, I haven't even the foggiest idea what the message she was going for was. I have listened to that song literally hundreds and hundreds of times, and I sing it aloud all the time. But I never figured it out. Like all those "stupid letters"? Huh? Would any kind soul out there like to enlighten me? Or would you rather all not discuss such things? I wouldn't be offended. Oh, and Troy! I have read before that the song has a sexual connotation. I have never found that! Unless "you will rise" is a little more literal than I first took it to be?! Is it about impotence or something? I highly doubt it. I took it as having a more spiritual meaning. Any thoughts on this one either? Mark Melbourne, FL From jitr-owner Wed Jul 3 08:27:14 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id IAA04336 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:27:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU (ulkyvm.louisville.edu [136.165.4.21]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id IAA04331 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU by ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 2279; Wed, 03 Jul 96 11:27:52 EDT Received: from ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU (DLWATEZ1) by ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 5290; Wed, 03 Jul 96 11:27:52 EDT Date: Wed, 03 Jul 96 11:26:18 EDT From: "Donnie L. Waters" Organization: University of Louisville Subject: Is this the right address? To: JITR@SERVER.POSTMODERN.COM X-Mailer: MailBook 95.01.000 Message-Id: <960703.112752.EDT.DLWATEZ1@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU> Sender: owner-jitr@SERVER.POSTMODERN.COM Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I just responded to a letter from Mark Shea, but instead of going to the group, it was sent only to him. Is this the right address for the group? And, if it is, and if you see this Mark, could you please forward that note? Thanks! ----- --- ' -Donnie Lee Waters::::::::::::::::::::::::::| ******* | ' ' ' ' -University of Louisville:::::::::::::::::| ***** | ' ' -dlwatez1@homer.louisville.edu::::::::::| *** | ' ' -whydowedothatthingthathurtsothers::::| * | From jitr-owner Wed Jul 3 12:14:42 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id MAA04905 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:14:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from winnie.fit.edu (winnie.fit.edu [163.118.5.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id MAA04900 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mshea@localhost) by winnie.fit.edu (8.7.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA13517 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:21:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:21:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Shea To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Jerusalem! (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 03 Jul 96 11:23:14 EDT From: "Donnie L. Waters" To: Mark Shea Subject: Re: Jerusalem! I agree! I'd love to hear some ideas about this kind of thing. My favorite album is _The Lion and the Cobra_, so I'd especially like to know more about those songs. Thanks! ----- --- ' -Donnie Lee Waters::::::::::::::::::::::::::| ******* | ' ' ' ' -University of Louisville:::::::::::::::::| ***** | ' ' -dlwatez1@homer.louisville.edu::::::::::| *** | ' ' -whydowedothatthingthathurtsothers::::| * | From jitr-owner Fri Jul 5 10:48:57 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id KAA12666 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:48:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from axp.lpl.lib.ky.us (AXP.LPL.LIB.KY.US [206.203.54.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id KAA12661 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:48:24 -0700 (PDT) From: AMY@axp.lpl.lib.ky.us Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:47:58 -0400 (EDT) To: JITR@POSTMODERN.COM Message-Id: <960705134758.4038@axp.lpl.lib.ky.us> Subject: Song meanings/intepretation... Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi everybody. It's been a really long time since I posted. Sorry about that. People have said some stuff that I would have commented on, but then I got busy.But now I'll try to catch up... Mark--I'll be glad to discuss any song with you. I'd talk about "Jerusalem" and"troy" right now, but I don't have it with me, nor have I listened to it in awhile, so I don't think I'd give a very coherent explination. Basically, I think "Troy" is about/kinda sung to a former boyfriend and it talks about their sexual relationship as well (lines like "sitting in the long grass of summer, keeping warm/I remember it, every restless night/we were so young we thought anything we could possibly do was right" "you wouldn't have begged me to hold you if we hadn't been there in the first place/and I knew you wanted me"), but they've broken up and she'll be able to move on ("and I will rise/the phoenix from the flame/I have learned/I will rise and I will return" oops, I think I got that mixed up. I'm quoting from memory here, folks.) like he has apparentlybeen able to. "jerusalem" I don't remember as well, so I'll get back to you. The Pope-picture-incident--It's kinda been mentioned, but no one has really discussed it. I don't know about anyone else, but I wasn't too suprised when she did it. If anyone had read the Rolling Stone interview with her before she was on SNL, she made her feelings about the Catholic Church pretty clear (agree or disagree). The thing that bothered me about it, is that she had told the SNL producers that she was going to just hold up a picture of a refugee child (which she did in the camera rehearsal, and that it was the show on all the subsequent reruns, which actually a friend of mine has and I stumbled upon it the other day, and it was very nice. She also did "Don't Cry for me, Argen- tina" with a full (?) orchestra.). So, it seems like she mislead the producers, and I think that is unprofessional. Speaking of Sinead on SNL, someone a long time ago mentioned when she was on and did "the last day of our acquaintence" with additional lyrics. I used to have it on tape (but have moved about 5 times since then, so no telling if I do now) and I don't really remember that. I do remember her singing "and I'm lonely/yes, I'm lonely/God, I'm lonely" at the end of "3 Babies", which is the other song she did on there, because now I also sing in at the end of "3 Babies", although not nearly as well. OK, I've written a book (well, a novella). I'll stop now, and I hope I keep up better in the future. Have a good day, everyone. Amy From jitr-owner Fri Jul 5 15:48:52 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id PAA13202 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:48:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mons.uio.no (mons.uio.no [129.240.200.26]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id PAA13197 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:48:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ulrik.uio.no by mons.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <22719-0@mons.uio.no>; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:48:20 +0200 Received: from hepp by hedda.uio.no ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:48:18 +0200 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:48:17 +0200 (MET DST) From: anne ross X-Sender: anners@hepp To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: No other Troy In-Reply-To: <199607040800.BAA08206@server.postmodern.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: Mark Shea > Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:00:20 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Jerusalem! > > Oh, and Troy! I have read before that the song has a sexual connotation. > I have never found that! Unless "you will rise" is a little more literal > than I first took it to be?! Is it about impotence or something? I > highly doubt it. I took it as having a more spiritual meaning. Any > thoughts on this one either? > > > Mark > Melbourne, FL > Troy is one of my favourite Sinead songs. I`ve read that Sinead wrote the it when she was 18, in the wake of her mothers death. Hence the emotional intensity of the song, I guess. Sineads relationship with her mother was very unsettled and ambivalent, and suddenly the mother dies in a car-accident without Sinead getting the chance to talk to her about her childhood. It seems the song bears the sign of the emotional turmoil Sinead must have been going through in that period. My interpretation of the song is one of a classic tragic lovestory with passion, jealousy, anguish, remorse, revenge and the final "rising from the flames". What is interesting is how she employs poetry and mythic elements in the song. The song is obviously inspired by W.B.Yeats`"No second Troy". The Cranberries employs the same poem in the song "Yeats grave", on "No need to argue". Dolores recites the first half of the poem: "Why should I blame her that she filled my days with misery or that she would of late have thaught to ignorant men most violent ways or hurled the little streets upon the great? Had they but courage equal to desire." The rest of the poem: What could have made her peaceful with a mind that nobleness made simple as a fire, with beauty like tightened bow, a kind that is not natural in an age like this being high and solitary and most stern, what could she have done, being what she is, was there another Troy for her to burn? The poem is supposed to be about Mother Ireland, but I guess it can also be interpreted as being about a strong woman, maybe thats what sinead has identified with. The poem is based on the myth of the siege of Troy, the ultimate revenge story, where the Athenians [?] after having been almost beaten because of the Trojans ingenious horse, takes a terrible, final revenge by burning the whole of Troy. Another mythical element is the bird Phoenix, who rose from the ashes, or the flames, an image of full revival after having been completely crushed. And "`l`d kill a dragon for you" is another example of mythical imagery. I think many artists would face the risk of sounding over-pretentious and pompous singing lyrics like that. But Sinead has the authority and character to do it. Troy is a song it can be really painful to listen to if you`re in there right mood... Anne :-) From jitr-owner Tue Jul 9 16:22:07 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id QAA27823 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:22:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from pat.uio.no (pat.uio.no [129.240.2.50]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id QAA27818 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <14039-0@pat.uio.no>; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 01:21:12 +0200 Received: from hepp by hedda.uio.no ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 01:21:11 +0200 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 01:21:10 +0200 (MET DST) From: anne ross X-Sender: anners@hepp To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: sineads reading list In-Reply-To: <199607060800.BAA15581@server.postmodern.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I don`t know if people are interested in this, but what the heck: Up through the years Sinead have made a lot of book-recommendations, and I`ve taken notice of them, and I`ve also read some of them. The books explain and give meaning to a lot of the views Sinead has expressed on religion, women, child abuse and so forth. Here goes: 1."The holy blood and the holy grail" - Michael Baigent et al. About a mystery in France, the knights templar, the holy grail, how Jeseus was probably married and had children, and a secret lodge called "priore de Sion" that is active even today. Quite a thrill to read, although some things seems to be a bit far out... 2."Iron John" Robert Bly The men-movement bible. The poet Bly uses fairy tales to illustrate how men must overcome thei immaturity and redefine themselves. Sinead called it "very accurate" and said she hoped someone would write a book like that about Joan of Arc. 3. "The mists of Avalon" Marion Zimmer Bradley. A 900 pages feminist twist to the celtic legend of king Arthur and the holy grail. Probably what inspired the "We used to worship God as a mother" in "Famine"... Bradley is a very popular fantasy/fiction writer, and Sinead stated that this was the most beautiful book she had ever read. 4. "The woman with the Alabaster Jar" Margaret Starbird A book about how Christianity has denied and repressed the feminine aspects of God, about Maria Magdalen as the consort/wife of Jesus, and about germatria, a sort of numerology technique, as a means of interpreting the bible. 5. "The chalice and the blade" [?] The chalice=the feminine aspect, the blade=the masculine aspect. About the current imbalance betwen these two, and how it is responsible for a lot of the misery around us. 6. "the courage to heal" [?] About recovery from child abuse. Anne. From jitr-owner Tue Jul 9 18:52:54 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id SAA28222 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:52:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from emout17.mail.aol.com (emout17.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.43]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id SAA28217 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:52:51 -0700 (PDT) From: DJO27@aol.com Received: by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA22195; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:53:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:53:22 -0400 Message-ID: <960709215318_354009501@emout17.mail.aol.com> To: a.r.solberg@hfstud.uio.no, jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: sineads reading list Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I read "Holy Blood Holy Grail" about 5 years ago and I agree with your assesment completely. It read well and had alot of facinating information but on a whole it was a little hard to swallow. Ther was a sequel written about 3 years later. I don't remember the title but I'll try to dig it up and let you know. It was also fairly interesting. There was also a BBC documentary on the book which was shown on the learning channel a few years back. Strangely enough I was just getting into Sinead when I first read the book and it wasn't till a few years later, after reading an interview that I realized that she must have read it as well. She didn't mention it by name but she talked about alot of things in the book. At first I felt a strange connection to her because of this, but in a minute logic won out and I saw it for the coincidence it was. As for lyric meaning, I try not to care to much about her intended meaning. I am content with allowing my own interpratations and reactions to songs stand on there own. Just my thoughts, DJO From jitr-owner Tue Jul 9 19:00:20 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id TAA28313 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:00:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com (emout18.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.44]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id TAA28307 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:00:16 -0700 (PDT) From: DJO27@aol.com Received: by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA03854; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:59:10 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:59:10 -0400 Message-ID: <960709215725_573293041@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: a.r.solberg@hfstud.uio.no, jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: sineads reading list Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I read "Holy Blood Holy Grail" about 5 years ago and I agree with your assesment completely. It read well and had alot of facinating information but on a whole it was a little hard to swallow. Ther was a sequel written about 3 years later. I don't remember the title but I'll try to dig it up and let you know. It was also fairly interesting. There was also a BBC documentary on the book which was shown on the learning channel a few years back. Strangely enough I was just getting into Sinead when I first read the book and it wasn't till a few years later, after reading an interview that I realized that she must have read it as well. She didn't mention it by name but she talked about alot of things in the book. At first I felt a strange connection to her because of this, but in a minute logic won out and I saw it for the coincidence it was. As for lyric meaning, I try not to care to much about her intended meaning. I am content with allowing my own interpratations and reactions to songs stand on there own. Just my thoughts, DJO From jitr-owner Wed Jul 10 07:53:46 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id HAA01256 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 07:53:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from winnie.fit.edu (winnie.fit.edu [163.118.5.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id HAA01251 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 07:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mshea@localhost) by winnie.fit.edu (8.7.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA07243; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:00:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Shea Reply-To: Mark Shea To: AMY@axp.lpl.lib.ky.us cc: JITR@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Song meanings/intepretation... In-Reply-To: <960705134758.4038@axp.lpl.lib.ky.us> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I am sorry that I haven't been writing in awhile. I know - I go and post a message to get a discussion going, and then I stop writing! You see, I went to Boston for the Holiday Weekend, so I was away from the computer. I was, however, thrilled to return and see that people responded. Thanks. I see that we all have the same basic idea for "Troy". But "Jerusalem" still baffles me. I partially agree with Mr/Ms "DJO" on each song's having its own meaning for you, but "Jerusalem" to me makes absolutely no sense. Not that it's a bad song - I lover the power in it. It's my "pissed off" song. Try it. Sometime when you are REALLY annoyed, play it really loud - you'll feel better, I promise! But back to the point. Sinead O'Connor wrote these songs, and I would like to know what they meant to HER when she wrote them, that's all. I know that I have my own personal interpretation of "Thank You For Hearing ME", and when I listen to it I think of it as being written about me and my personal situation, but I would still be curious as to what Sinead's motives were when she wrote it. Well, I have to run to work now, and then get to the gas station and the grocery store. A Hurricane Warning was just issued for this area, so I have my work cut out for me. I'll write again to say some more, that is if I don't blow away! ;) Mark Melbourne, FL From jitr-owner Thu Jul 11 10:14:03 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id KAA06368 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:14:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from winnie.fit.edu (winnie.fit.edu [163.118.5.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id KAA06363 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mshea@localhost) by winnie.fit.edu (8.7.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA17582; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:20:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:20:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Shea To: "Amy O'Brien" cc: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Meaning In-Reply-To: <42960710203324/0006791412PJ4EM@MCIMAIL.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Amy O'Brien wrote: > I once read in an interview w/ sinead that she just put a bunch > of words together that sounded neat. No meaning whatsoever. > Just liked the way it sounded. Really?! HA! That is hilarious! I always figured that B-52s did a lot of stuff like that. Does anyone else out there like them? I call half of their stuff "B-52s nonsense songs"; they're just fun. But I really find it hard to believe that a song like "Jerusalem" would have no meaning at all. It just wouldn't fit with TLatC's theme. But who knows? Not too long ago, a person on this list mentioned that a friend of his/hers (I can't remember - SORRY!) had coffee with Sinead in Dublin. When I was in Dublin in 1994, I was SO HOPING that I'd see her somewhere. I even looked her up in the phone directory to see if she was listed. Do you KNOW how many "S. O'Connor's" there are in Dublin, Ireland!?!?!? Anyway, at one point, I was at the Kentucky Fried Chicken on Grafton Street (I know, I know - I go to Ireland and eat at KFC...), and I was SURE that the one and only Sinead was in line in front of me. I almost DIED. What was I going to do if it WAS her? I had to say something, like "I LOVE YOU SINEAD!", but knowing how she feels about being perceived as great, I thought that might be a bad idea. Maybe I should just be friendly and say "Hi - Love your music." I was going nuts wondering what to do, when the woman turned around and it was not Sinead. I was kinda relieved. Anyhow, my point is that if I ever DID get to talk to Sinead over coffee or something, I'd ask her about what she was thinking when writing certain songs. Mark From jitr-owner Fri Jul 12 00:21:00 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id AAA08168 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:21:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from 207.33.130.51 (derrida.postmodern.com [207.33.130.51]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id AAA08150; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31E5FCD5.29BD@postmodern.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:20:55 -0700 From: "Michael C. Berch" Reply-To: mcb@postmodern.com Organization: INFOBAHN Reviews / Postmodern Communications, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babel-list, jitr Subject: ADMIN: postmodern.com was off the air for 8 hours Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Postmodern.com was off the net for about 8 hours on Thursday 11 July, from 3:45pm to 11:45pm California time, due to a Pacific Bell T-3 circuit outage in Oakland, CA. Service was restored about half an hour ago and the mailing lists and Web server should be up and running normally. My apologies for the inconvenience. -- Michael C. Berch mcb@postmodern.com From jitr-owner Fri Jul 12 14:30:52 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id OAA11291 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:30:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id OAA11286 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:30:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pita.cs.huji.ac.il by cs.huji.ac.il with SMTP id AA27626 (5.67b/HUJI 4.153 for ); Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:32:16 +0300 From: Yoav Gonen Received: (from yogon@localhost) by pita.cs.huji.ac.il (8.7/1.1c) id XAA08287 for jitr@server.postmodern.com; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:32:11 +0300 (IDT) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:32:11 +0300 (IDT) Message-Id: <199607122032.XAA08287@pita.cs.huji.ac.il> To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Meaning of Jerusalem Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I'm not really sure of the meaning of "Jerusalem", but here is +/- the story: OK, the young woman (probably Sinead herself) is messed up with an unforbidden relationships with a (maybe) married man. Her mother doesn't accept it. She tells her child that it is against religion and she will be burned in hell. (Jerusalem - one of the centers of the Christian world). So the young lady really hates her mother, ("I'm gonna hit you if you say that to me"). The man is not allowed to see her anymore, and the woman at least hopes for another last meeting. Shalom, Yoav. From jitr-owner Sun Jul 14 17:04:17 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id RAA18901 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 17:04:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (root@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id RAA18896 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 17:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dingo.cc.uq.oz.au (root@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.14]) by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA14012 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:04:04 +1000 Received: from dingo.cc.uq.oz.au (tpmraymo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP id JAA10376 (8.7.5/IDA-1.6 for ); Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:54:25 +1000 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:53:59 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Myriam Raymond X-Sender: tpmraymo@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au To: Mailing List JITR Subject: Re: Meaning of Jerusalem In-Reply-To: <199607122032.XAA08287@pita.cs.huji.ac.il> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, I never was sure about this song either, what it meant and stuff. But I sort of made up my own story in my mind about what it was about. I read in a book that Sinead spent some time in a (reform?) school for shoplifting, a school run by nuns. I Always thought this song was about the time when Sinead was informed she would be sent there, and her reaction to it. ("Five years, They give me five years...my Term"). Has anyone else had this idea about it? I also thought the anger in it was directed towards the institutionalization (eeek spelling?) mentality of church and other authorities in their dealings with wayward young folk. Myriam. On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Yoav Gonen wrote: > I'm not really sure of the meaning of "Jerusalem", but here is +/- the > story: > > OK, the young woman (probably Sinead herself) is messed up with an > unforbidden relationships with a (maybe) married man. Her mother doesn't > accept it. She tells her child that it is against religion and she will > be burned in hell. (Jerusalem - one of the centers of the Christian world). > So the young lady really hates her mother, ("I'm gonna hit you if you > say that to me"). The man is not allowed to see her anymore, and the > woman at least hopes for another last meeting. > > > > Shalom, > > Yoav. > > Myriam Raymond CRC for Tropical Pest Management Ph. +61 7 32421863 Level 5 Gehrmann Building M.Raymond@mailbox.uq.edu.au University of Queensland http://www.uq.edu.au/~tpmraymo From jitr-owner Mon Jul 15 07:52:49 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id HAA21761 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 07:52:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from winnie.fit.edu (winnie.fit.edu [163.118.5.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id HAA21756 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 07:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mshea@localhost) by winnie.fit.edu (8.7.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id KAA29927; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:59:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:59:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Shea To: Myriam Raymond cc: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Meaning of Jerusalem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hey, that idea makes a LOT of sense! That would explain the part about the "letters" and everything, too. Perhaps they were ridiculing her for writing home? Vey observant, Myriam. I am impressed! From jitr-owner Mon Jul 15 10:14:20 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id KAA22141 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:14:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id KAA22136 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mangal.cs.huji.ac.il by cs.huji.ac.il with SMTP id AA29514 (5.67b/HUJI 4.153 for ); Mon, 15 Jul 1996 20:13:42 +0300 From: Yoav Gonen Received: (from yogon@localhost) by mangal.cs.huji.ac.il (8.7/1.1c) id UAA01014 for jitr@server.postmodern.com; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 20:13:37 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 20:13:37 +0300 (IDT) Message-Id: <199607151713.UAA01014@mangal.cs.huji.ac.il> To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: personal message (sorry) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Sorry, this is a personal message to one of the members of jitr. Everyone else please, ignore. Dana, I know you e-mailed me, but I accidently removed you e-mail. If you can, please e-mail the message again. Yoav. From jitr-owner Tue Jul 16 05:50:23 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id FAA00136 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 05:50:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from monet.telebyte.nl (root@monet.telebyte.nl [193.67.242.12]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id FAA00130 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 05:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from default (nm-1-04.telebyte.nl [193.67.242.226]) by monet.telebyte.nl (8.7.3/8.6.11) with SMTP id OAA15267 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:08:42 +0200 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960716120554.006dd3a8@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:05:54 +0200 To: Sinead Mailing List From: Mars-L Subject: Clearing a rumour (???) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, According to a rumour living it's live since the release of Dermott Hayes book, mentioning the existance of a 12" containing the remixes of I want Your Hands On Me called "Hickey On Me Neck Mix" and "Knee Trembler Mix" This 12" should carry the number ENYXR-613. No-one ever seen it and no-one ever heard it....(As Far As I Know !!!) Looking through my own collection I (accidentally) noticed I had a PROMO-12" containing this catalogue number (ENYXR-613), but no such remix on it, just the normal version and the dance-mix. So to clear the rumour of the "Hickey On Me Neck Mix" and the "Knee Trembler Mix" IT DOESN'T EXIST !!! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I jumped in the river * * HTTP://WWW.TELEBYTE.NL/~BOBBINK/ * * and I like it there * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From jitr-owner Tue Jul 16 16:03:23 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id QAA01336 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:03:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id QAA01331 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imusic (fast1-pool.accessone.com [206.213.89.41]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA11792 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:00:38 -0700 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:00:38 -0700 Message-Id: <199607162300.QAA11792@m1.sprynet.com> X-Sender: bob01@m1.sprynet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jitr@server.postmodern.com From: Bob Scheu Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Just a quick post to let the list know that Imusic has a couple of Sinead related new features. 1. iMusic Radio [1] is new to the Internet. You can vote for (or against) any song in the rotation and directly affect the playlist for the next listener. It's a different playlist each time you hit the page. Vote for Sinead and get her music in rotation! 2. We have just added a series of Bulletin Boards for artists we believe in and, of course, there is one for Sinead O'Connor. No one knows about it yet, except you. Please check it out. iMusic is located at Hope you like it and visit often. From jitr-owner Wed Jul 17 00:37:35 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id AAA02995 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:37:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from luggage.tecc.co.uk (mmdf@luggage.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.129]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id AAA02990 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sat.tecc.co.uk by luggage.tecc.co.uk id aa08989; 17 Jul 96 8:36 BST Received: by sat.tecc.co.uk (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA08153; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 08:39:15 +0100 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 08:39:15 +0100 Message-Id: <9607170739.AA08153@sat.tecc.co.uk> From: Matthias Radestock To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Sinead is headlining .... Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ a charity concert for Tibet this Saturday at Alexandra Palace, London. C U there ;-) Matthias From jitr-owner Wed Jul 17 02:12:34 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id CAA04774 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 02:12:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from smtp2.erols.com (root@smtp2.erols.com [205.252.116.102]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id CAA04769 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 02:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dowhome (dbuzzell.erols.com [206.161.77.161]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA03354; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 05:11:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31ECAE4C.3CDD@erols.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 05:11:40 -0400 From: dbuzzell Reply-To: dbuzzell@erols.com Organization: BTG X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5aGold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Radestock CC: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Sinead is headlining .... References: <9607170739.AA08153@sat.tecc.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Matthias Radestock wrote: > I wish I were in Europe!! Dow > a charity concert for Tibet this Saturday at Alexandra Palace, London. > > C U there ;-) > > Matthias From jitr-owner Wed Jul 17 03:25:20 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id DAA04871 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 03:25:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id DAA04866 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 03:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (ah25.pi.net [145.220.203.25]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA19415 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:24:47 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:24:47 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:24:47 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960717132219.1f0fbaa2@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: anna@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Eduard Verheijen Subject: sinead plays in a new movie Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Sinead o`connor is going to play in a new irish movie called The butcher boys. In this movie she is going to play a remarkebel role; The Holy Virgin, Mother Maria. ----------------------------------------------------- Eduard Verheijen Everybody knew, nobody said Take care, stay alive it's a shitty world out there ------------------------------------------------------ From jitr-owner Wed Jul 17 07:31:42 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id HAA05461 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 07:31:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail.xgw.fi (root@xgw1.pal.xgw.fi [193.64.41.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id HAA05456 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 07:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xgw10.xgw.fi (xgw10.pal.xgw.fi [193.64.41.10]) by mail.xgw.fi (8.6.11/8.6.4) with ESMTP id RAA04996 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:30:02 +0300 Received: from localhost (bloke@localhost) by xgw10.xgw.fi (8.6.5/8.6.4) id RAA08327; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:29:51 +0300 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:29:50 +0300 (EET DST) From: Jani Juvonen To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: sinead plays in a new movie In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19960717132219.1f0fbaa2@pop.pi.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Eduard Verheijen wrote: > Sinead o`connor is going to play in a new irish movie called The butcher boys. > In this movie she is going to play a remarkebel role; > The Holy Virgin, Mother Maria. Interesting... is this some kind of new version of bible or something? And who/what are the butcher boys? Is it a small role or perhaps even the main role? -Jani Juvonen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Start a band, write some shit songs I http://www.xgw.fi/users/bloke/ and people pay you millions of pounds I--------------------------------- for it." - Noel Gallagher, Oasis I http://www.tripod.com/~Bloke/ From jitr-owner Wed Jul 17 09:41:27 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id JAA05928 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 09:41:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from ping.at (pong.ping.at [193.81.13.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id JAA05923 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 09:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from site51.ping.at by ping.at with UUCP id AA17619 (5.67b8/ping for jitr@postmodern.com); Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:40:53 +0200 Received: by site51.ping.at (CrossPoint v3.11); 17 Jul 1996 18:40:04 +0100 Date: 17 Jul 1996 17:45:00 +0100 From: szendrey@site51.ping.at (Roman Szendrey) To: jitr@postmodern.com Message-Id: <6D3SC7xie6B@site51.ping.at> References: <9607170739.AA08153@sat.tecc.co.uk> Subject: Re: Sinead is headlining .... X-Mailer: CrossPoint v3.11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello Matthias, 17.07.96 / 08:39: You wrote in /Mailinglisten/JITR about "Sinead is headlining ....": > a charity concert for Tibet this Saturday at Alexandra Palace, London. > > C U there ;-) if anyone should happen to have a tape-recorder with him i'd love to have a copy... ;-) roman ---------------------------------------------------- roman szendrey (szendrey@site51.ping.at) fidonet: 2:310/25.50 compuserve: 100347,612 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/szendrey/ vienna / austria ---------------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## From jitr-owner Fri Jul 19 13:06:30 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id NAA15817 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 13:06:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from goggins.uio.no (goggins.uio.no [129.240.201.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id NAA15812 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 13:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ulrik.uio.no by goggins.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <16535-0@goggins.uio.no>; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:05:27 +0200 Received: from s8.vestdata.no by hepp.uio.no ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:05:24 +0200 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:05:24 +0200 Message-Id: <199607192005.WAA04781@hepp.uio.no> X-Sender: anners@hepp.uio.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jitr@postmodern.com From: a.r.solberg@hf.uio.no (Anne Ross Solberg) Subject: "On common ground" documentary X-Mailer: Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Last week they sent a documentary on "On common ground" on Norwegian TV. They interviewed a bunch of people about the project and showed clips from the recording. I was hoping to see a clip of Sinead, but they just played a little bit of "on Raglan Road" with some Irish scenery to go with it. Christy Moore said nobody had sung "on Raglan Road" like that since ..?... (whatever the name was). I really wish Sinead would re-appear in the public spotlight soon, it`s been kind of quiet for a while now... But on second thought, maybe that`s just a stupid, selfish want for "action", she wasn`t put here for our amusement`s sake. She very probably has her reasons for staying away and for protecting her privat life. Let`s just hope she`s happy, whatever she`s doing... :-) Anne. From jitr-owner Sat Jul 20 13:59:58 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id NAA19817 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 13:59:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from luggage.tecc.co.uk (mmdf@luggage.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.129]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id NAA19812 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 13:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sat.tecc.co.uk by luggage.tecc.co.uk id aa04820; 20 Jul 96 21:59 BST Received: by sat.tecc.co.uk (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09929; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:01:20 +0100 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:01:20 +0100 Message-Id: <9607202101.AA09929@sat.tecc.co.uk> From: Matthias Radestock To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Sinead is back Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ The concert this afternoon was great. Unfortunately there were lots of bands playing and by the time Sinead got on stage the event was seriously behind schedule. Then it still took them ten minutes to sort out one of the keyboards. Sinead could only sing two songs because the Dalai Lama had arrived to lead an inter-faith prayer and he obviously was on a tight schedule. Anyway, Sinead seemed very happy and relaxed. She was fooling around on the stage while the technicians were working on the various problems. I think Sinead had her usual band with her - a female bass guitarist and keyboarder, plus two men playing accoustic guitar / drums. The first song was "All Babies" followed by "I'm Enough for Myself". During that song she was joined by two friends and her son Jake. There were only a few hundred people at the event, which meant you could literally stand directly at the stage and wouldn't even be pushed around. Tickets were only 5 pounds (about 7 dollars). It was a beautiful and sunny day (which is not that common in London). There was lots of nice vegetarian food and Tibetan craft on sale, but no alcohol. This, and the whole nature of the event, meant that the crowd was very well-behaved and one could really enjoy the music. Matthias PS: She's bald (again) :) From jitr-owner Sun Jul 21 02:11:32 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id CAA22585 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 02:11:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from ping.at (pong.ping.at [193.81.13.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id CAA22580 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 02:11:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from site51.ping.at by ping.at with UUCP id AA24558 (5.67b8/ping for jitr@postmodern.com); Sun, 21 Jul 1996 11:11:05 +0200 Received: by site51.ping.at (CrossPoint v3.11); 21 Jul 1996 11:11:04 +0100 Date: 21 Jul 1996 10:14:00 +0100 From: szendrey@site51.ping.at (Roman Szendrey) To: jitr@postmodern.com Message-Id: <6DJ$H1Xye6B@site51.ping.at> References: <9607202101.AA09929@sat.tecc.co.uk> Subject: Re: Sinead is back X-Mailer: CrossPoint v3.11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello Matthias, 20.07.96 / 22:01: You wrote in /Mailinglisten/JITR about "Sinead is back": > Anyway, Sinead seemed very happy and relaxed. She was fooling around > on the stage while the technicians were working on the various > problems. I think Sinead had her usual band with her - a female bass > guitarist and keyboarder, plus two men playing accoustic guitar / > drums. The first song was "All Babies" followed by "I'm Enough for > Myself". During that song she was joined by two friends and her son > Jake. that sounds very nice. you didn't accidently have a running tape-recorder with you...? ;-) > PS: She's bald (again) :) good news! ciao roman ---------------------------------------------------- roman szendrey (szendrey@site51.ping.at) fidonet: 2:310/25.50 compuserve: 100347,612 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/szendrey/ vienna / austria ---------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- roman szendrey (szendrey@site51.ping.at) fidonet: 2:310/25.50 compuserve: 100347,612 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/szendrey/ vienna / austria ---------------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## From jitr-owner Sun Jul 21 04:02:57 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id EAA22698 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 04:02:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from luggage.tecc.co.uk (mmdf@luggage.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.129]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id EAA22693 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 04:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sat.tecc.co.uk by luggage.tecc.co.uk id aa14044; 21 Jul 96 12:02 BST Received: by sat.tecc.co.uk (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA10197; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 12:04:43 +0100 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 12:04:43 +0100 Message-Id: <9607211104.AA10197@sat.tecc.co.uk> From: Matthias Radestock To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Sinead is back again Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Three things I forgot in my review: 1) There was also a female cello player 2) Sinead was wearing some "Goddess" t-shirt. I couldn't quite make out what exactly it said though. 3) I *didn't* tape the concert, so please don't mail me and ask me. Matthias From jitr-owner Sun Jul 21 09:48:46 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id JAA23090 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 09:48:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id JAA23085 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 09:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME ([203.120.81.206]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA20119 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 00:48:14 +0800 X-Sender: juk@pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jitr@postmodern.com From: juk@pacific.net.sg (Tan Ju Kok) Subject: Sinead "news" (fwd) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 00:48:14 +0800 Message-ID: <19960721164813.AAA20119@LOCALNAME> Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ (Jul. 21) MUSIC NEWS - SINEAD O'CONNOR Controversial rock singer SINEAD O'CONNOR has been making up with her former love, rocker PETER GABRIEL. The couple split up several years ago when Gabriel refused to make a long-term commitment to the relationship. However, they were spotted tog ether at a recent fund-raising event in London, England - leading to speculation they are back together. O'Connor has never hidden her love for Gabriel - who she credits with saving her life after she overdosed on sleeping pills and vodka in a Los A ngeles, California hotel. A friend says, "Sinead wants them to get back together. She was always crazy about him." O'Connor gave birth to a baby girl in London earlier this year (96), but split up with the father - Irish journalist and intellectual JOHN WATERS - after she revealed she had targeted him as a sperm donor. From jitr-owner Sun Jul 21 17:56:13 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id RAA23784 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 17:56:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from post.cis.smu.edu (root@post.cis.smu.edu [129.119.64.23]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id RAA23779 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 17:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by post.cis.smu.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.3) id ; Sun, 21 Jul 96 19:55 CDT Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 19:55:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Suzanne Nicole Shelton Subject: Re: Sinead "news" (fwd) To: Tan Ju Kok cc: jitr@postmodern.com In-Reply-To: <19960721164813.AAA20119@LOCALNAME> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ this article mentioned sinead's overdose in L.A. does anyone know the circumstances surrounding that period of her life? just wondering, suzanne From jitr-owner Mon Jul 22 08:32:46 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id IAA26749 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 08:32:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from inet2.tek.com (inet2.tek.com [134.62.48.22]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id IAA26742 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 08:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by inet2.tek.com id ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 08:31:53 -0700 Received: from me24.cse.tek.com(128.181.117.73) by inet2 via smap (V1.3) id sma044189; Mon Jul 22 08:31:20 1996 Received: from localhost.cse.tek.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by me24.cse.tek.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA12440 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 08:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607221531.IAA12440@me24.cse.tek.com> To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Tape Tree Followup Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Id: <12437.838049478.1@mdhost.cse.tek.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 08:31:19 PDT From: Monty D Smith Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ A couple months ago I offered to run a tape tree for live Sinead stuff, partly in thanks to the kind generosity shown by the people on this list, but also to help spread the material. So now I'm writing to follow up, to say that all that requested to be on the tree will be getting copies. (Please, no new requests!) Thanks, take care and so long Monty (unsubscribed this morning) >From Majordomo: >>>> unsubscribe jitr-digest Succeeded. From jitr-owner Mon Jul 22 11:10:06 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id LAA27194 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:10:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from ping.at (pong.ping.at [193.81.13.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id LAA27189 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from site51.ping.at by ping.at with UUCP id AA08805 (5.67b8/ping for jitr@postmodern.com); Mon, 22 Jul 1996 20:09:38 +0200 Received: by site51.ping.at (CrossPoint v3.11); 22 Jul 1996 20:09:38 +0100 Date: 22 Jul 1996 20:09:00 +0100 From: szendrey@site51.ping.at (Roman Szendrey) To: jitr@postmodern.com Message-Id: <6DNdDC$Te6B@site51.ping.at> Subject: sinead pictures X-Mailer: CrossPoint v3.11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ hi, i moved the site of my sinead o'connor pictures to http://www.dowcomputer.com/sinpic.htm fortunately i was able to get some more webspace so that i can add more pictures soon. if anyone has interesting photos please tell me... the link-page will stay at http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/szendrey/sinlink.htm thanks roman ---------------------------------------------------- roman szendrey (szendrey@site51.ping.at) fidonet: 2:310/25.50 compuserve: 100347,612 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/szendrey/ vienna / austria ---------------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## From jitr-owner Mon Jul 22 13:13:00 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id NAA27667 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:13:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from monet.telebyte.nl (root@monet.telebyte.nl [193.67.242.12]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id NAA27662 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from default (nm-1-18.telebyte.nl [193.67.242.240]) by monet.telebyte.nl (8.7.3/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA17014 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:12:32 +0200 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960722200920.006be958@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:09:20 +0200 To: Sinead Mailing List From: Mars-L Subject: Sorry Doesn't belong here.... Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, I know it doesn't belong here but I want the whole world to know....I am going to get a child :-))))))) My girlfriend is pregnant. If you're really interested go to my homepage for the entire story. (or directly to http://www.telebyte.nl/baby.htm) BTW; I know...it's time to update my Sinead page, so that's what I am gonna do these coming days. If there is any new news-update please let me know so I can add that. The only interesting news I thing what happend since May is that she preformed about a while ago and that she's bald again. So any additions are welcome. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I jumped in the river * * HTTP://WWW.TELEBYTE.NL/~BOBBINK/ * * and I like it there * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From jitr-owner Mon Jul 22 13:25:20 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id NAA27736 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:25:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from monet.telebyte.nl (root@monet.telebyte.nl [193.67.242.12]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id NAA27731 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from default (nm-1-18.telebyte.nl [193.67.242.240]) by monet.telebyte.nl (8.7.3/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA17320 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:24:51 +0200 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960722202139.006c31fc@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:21:39 +0200 To: Sinead Mailing List From: Mars-L Subject: Sorry Doesn't belong here.... Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Sorry to bother U again; the page should be; http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/baby.htm * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I jumped in the river * * HTTP://WWW.TELEBYTE.NL/~BOBBINK/ * * and I like it there * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From jitr-owner Mon Jul 22 14:19:21 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id OAA27872 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 14:19:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (kuhub.cc.ukans.edu [129.237.32.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id OAA27867 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 14:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from truman.engr.ukans.edu by KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU (PMDF V5.0-6 #13311) id <01I7DOFZDGBK90LDOA@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU> for jitr@server.postmodern.com; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 16:17:54 -0500 (UTC -05:00) Received: by truman.engr.ukans.edu (4.1/KU-1.6s) id AA28153; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 16:19:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 16:19:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Highlander Subject: Sinead O'Conner-"Enya Speaks" (fwd) X-Sender: jrussell@truman To: jump in the river archives Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi all, I think This was Posted a while back... if anyone has it, could they forward it? Thanks in advance! jrussell ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:23:47 From: Kristy Young To: jrussell@washington.engr.ukans.edu Subject: Sinead O'Conner-"Enya Speaks" First let me say you have a fantastic home page and links!!!!! I am interested in Irish politics, the Gaelic language and performers that ROCK. Is the text of Enya's words recorded on "Never Get Old" off of Sinead's "The Lion and the Cobra" published somewhere? I would love to know what she is saying, even if it is in Gaelic, I'll take it. any help would be appreciated. Again, thanks for the great page, I put it in my folder of favorite places. Kris Yundah@gnn.com From jitr-owner Mon Jul 22 15:06:52 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id PAA28023 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 15:06:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from winnie.fit.edu (winnie.fit.edu [163.118.5.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id PAA28018 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 15:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mshea@localhost) by winnie.fit.edu (8.7.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA17445; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 18:14:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 18:14:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Shea Reply-To: Mark Shea To: Highlander cc: jump in the river archives Subject: Re: Sinead O'Conner-"Enya Speaks" (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Maybe this is common knowledge, but I observed that the scratchy handwriting on the inside of the front cover of the LatC CD is the words to the "Enya Speaks" on "Never Get Old". Also, on the back cover of the box that the CD came in (back when they were sold in boxes), the following was written: (I'm quoting it from memory, so bear with me!) For He will command His angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways They will lift you up in their hands so you will not strike your foot against a stone You will tread upon the lion and the cobra You will trample the great beast and the serpent? It seems to fit with the "Enya speaks" as regards its length and punctuation. I have always believed that that is what Enya is chanting about on that song. As far as where it comes from, I would venture to guess The Bible. I am not well read on the Bible, but I know that somewhere in Luke there are few lines to this effect. That's what I think it is. My two cents :) Mark From jitr-owner Mon Jul 22 17:06:12 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id RAA28357 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 17:06:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from smtp1.erols.com (root@smtp1.erols.com [205.252.116.101]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id RAA28352 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 17:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dowhome (dbuzzell.erols.com [206.161.77.161]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.7.4/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA07401; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 20:05:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31F41744.320F@erols.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 20:05:24 -0400 From: dbuzzell Reply-To: dbuzzell@erols.com Organization: BTG X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5aGold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roman Szendrey CC: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: sinead pictures References: <6DNdDC$Te6B@site51.ping.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Roman: You did a wonderful job on the site, I look forward to more of your work!! Thanks... Dow Roman Szendrey wrote: > > hi, > > i moved the site of my sinead o'connor pictures to > > http://www.dowcomputer.com/sinpic.htm > > fortunately i was able to get some more webspace so that i can add more > pictures soon. if anyone has interesting photos please tell me... > > the link-page will stay at > > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/szendrey/sinlink.htm > > thanks > > roman > > ---------------------------------------------------- > roman szendrey (szendrey@site51.ping.at) > fidonet: 2:310/25.50 compuserve: 100347,612 > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/szendrey/ > vienna / austria > ---------------------------------------------------- > ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## From jitr-owner Wed Jul 24 07:18:56 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id HAA05703 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 07:18:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from lulu.acns.nwu.edu (lulu.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.54]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id HAA05698 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 07:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (max83ppp152.pacific.net.sg) by lulu.acns.nwu.edu with SMTP (1.40.112.4/20.4) id AA131048093; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 09:21:33 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 09:21:33 -0500 Message-Id: <199607241421.AA131048093@lulu.acns.nwu.edu> X-Sender: jnt207@lulu.acns.nwu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: Ju Nguan Tan Subject: More Sinead news! Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ SINEAD O'CONNOR Superstars SINEAD O'CONNOR, ERIC CLAPTON, VAN MORRISON and MARIANNE FAITHFULL have all come together to sing the praises of the old Irish tune DANNY BOY. All are featured in a new hour-long documentary on the history of the traditional song. DAN NY BOY - IN SUNSHINE OR IN SHADOW, which was produced by CHIPS CHIPPERFIELD, the man behind the BEATLES ANTHOLOGY series, will be screened on British TV next month (04AUG96). It's the brainchild of JULIAN LLOYD - an Englishman who has lived in Irelan d for the past 20 years. He became hooked on the melody after hearing a version by jazz sax player BEN WEBSTER and began to collect different versions of the song. Other stars who have recorded the tune include top Irish ballad singer RONNIE DREW, former POGUES frontman SHANE MACGOWAN and top traditional group THE CHIEFTAINS. Would any of the British list members be able to record this programme? From jitr-owner Wed Jul 24 15:49:59 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id PAA06692 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:49:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from web.azstarnet.com (root@azstarnet.com [169.197.1.3]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id PAA06687 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from StarNet.azstarnet.com (usr8ip27.azstarnet.com [169.197.9.27]) by web.azstarnet.com (8.7.5/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA20754 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:49:23 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199607242249.PAA20754@web.azstarnet.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: opalcat@AZStarNet.com To: jitr@postmodern.com Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:00:53 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Danny Boy Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Other stars who have recorded the tune include top Irish ballad singer RONNIE DREW, former POGUES frontman SHANE MACGOWAN and top traditional group THE CHIEFTAINS. So did Joan Baez :) ---------------------------------OpalCat >^..^< ". . . you can stand all night at a red light anywhere in town hailing Marys left and right none of them slow down . . ." -Sisters of Mercy From jitr-owner Wed Jul 24 20:18:52 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id UAA07496 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 20:18:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id UAA07491 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 1996 20:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dingo.cc.uq.oz.au (root@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.14]) by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA28581 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:17:51 +1000 Received: from dingo.cc.uq.oz.au (tpmraymo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP id JAA25670 (8.7.5/IDA-1.6 for ); Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:23:39 +1000 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:23:05 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Myriam Raymond X-Sender: tpmraymo@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au To: Mailing List JITR Subject: Danny Man Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hey! Has anyone heard Jimeoin's version? (does anyone know Jimeoin?) Myriam. >Other stars who have recorded the tune include top Irish ballad singer RONNIE DREW, former POGUES frontman SHANE MACGOWAN and top traditional group THE CHIEFTAINS. Myriam Raymond CRC for Tropical Pest Management Ph. +61 7 32421863 Level 5 Gehrmann Building M.Raymond@mailbox.uq.edu.au University of Queensland http://www.uq.edu.au/~tpmraymo From jitr-owner Thu Jul 25 07:15:32 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id HAA09965 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 07:15:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (kuhub.cc.ukans.edu [129.237.32.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id HAA09960 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 07:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from truman.engr.ukans.edu by KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU (PMDF V5.0-6 #13311) id <01I7HGJ8CUHC8ZFV78@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU> for jitr@server.postmodern.com; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:14:37 -0500 (UTC -05:00) Received: by truman.engr.ukans.edu (4.1/KU-1.6s) id AA06667; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:16:06 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:16:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Highlander Subject: sinead on the white room (fwd) X-Sender: jrussell@truman To: jump in the river archives Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ hi all, I got this yesterday and wondered if the UK folks could check it out! jrussell ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 11:18:39 +0100 From: Initial Film & Television To: jrussell@washington.engr.ukans.edu Subject: sinead on the white room Hi, Sinead will be appearing on the music show the white room tomorrow. If you want to check out the site and maybe post a question to her (which she herself will answer!) it'll be up at www.channel4.com from tomorrow. Cheers, Rachel From jitr-owner Fri Jul 26 01:04:05 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id BAA13551 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 01:04:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from ping.at (pong.ping.at [193.81.13.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id BAA13546 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 01:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from site51.ping.at by ping.at with UUCP id AA09851 (5.67b8/ping for jitr@postmodern.com); Fri, 26 Jul 1996 10:03:39 +0200 Received: by site51.ping.at (CrossPoint v3.11); 26 Jul 1996 10:03:39 +0200 Date: 26 Jul 1996 10:03:00 +0200 From: szendrey@site51.ping.at (Roman Szendrey) To: jitr@postmodern.com Message-Id: <6DckILRie6B@site51.ping.at> Subject: some articles X-Mailer: CrossPoint v3.11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ hi, i've added some articles about sinead to my web-page. there are not many yet but if anyone has something please send it to me so that i can put it there. you can access it directly at: http://www.dowcomputer.com/sinartic.htm of via my link-page at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/szendrey/sinlink.htm please send me interesting articles if you can find some! thanks roman ---------------------------------------------------- roman szendrey (szendrey@site51.ping.at) fidonet: 2:310/25.50 compuserve: 100347,612 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/szendrey/ vienna / austria ---------------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## From jitr-owner Fri Jul 26 12:37:56 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id MAA14753 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 12:37:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail-e2b-service.gnn.com (mail-e2b-service.gnn.com [204.148.102.170]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id MAA14748 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 12:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 67-99.client.gnn.com. (67-99.client.gnn.com [205.188.67.99]) by mail-e2b-service.gnn.com (8.7.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA23949 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:36:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607261936.PAA23949@mail-e2b-service.gnn.com> X-Mailer: GNNmessenger 1.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 14:35:32 From: Gaeltacht@gnn.com (Cecilia Bonnor) To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: o'connor (j)v. o'connor (m), decision of the high court of eire, august, 1975 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ parental conduct towards the child 14.040 instances of cruelty, neglect or abuse by a parent towards the child whose custody is an issue may clearly be relevant to the issue of welfare as has been stated (14.026-14.028). a court will be reluctant to characterise a parent as unfit to have custody, but it will not ignore misconduct. in __j.o'c v. m.o'c__ [unreported, aug., 1975], the issue of corporal punishment arose. there were four children (two boys aged 12 and 6, and two girls aged 9 and 8), on whom the mother consistently inflicted severe corporal punishment. she humiliated them before each other, and the children were very frightened of her. justice kenny placed the children in the father's custody and observed (at page seven) that-- severe corporal punishment administered consistently to young children and particularly to young girls is certain to cause emotional trouble. the parents who use corporal punishment on young children may think that it is for their good but civilised human beings have long since abandoned this barbaric pratice.-- pp.363-64 courtesy of waterstones, dawson st., dublin 2, eire. ___marriage breakdown in ireland__ by duncan, william r. butterworth ltd, dublin, 1990 copyright. --frog-- From jitr-owner Fri Jul 26 13:03:19 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id NAA14853 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 13:03:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id NAA14848 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 13:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mangal.cs.huji.ac.il by cs.huji.ac.il with SMTP id AA13618 (5.67b/HUJI 4.153 for ); Fri, 26 Jul 1996 23:01:37 +0300 Received: (from yogon@localhost) by mangal.cs.huji.ac.il (8.7/1.1c) id XAA28424; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 23:01:32 +0300 (IDT) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 23:01:06 +0300 (IDT) From: Yoav Gonen To: jitr@postmodern.com Cc: jitr-digest@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: jitr-digest V2 #167 In-Reply-To: <199607260800.BAA13517@server.postmodern.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On Fri, 26 Jul 1996 owner-jitr-digest@postmodern.com wrote: > Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 11:18:39 +0100 > From: Initial Film & Television > To: jrussell@washington.engr.ukans.edu > Subject: sinead on the white room > > Hi, > > Sinead will be appearing on the music show the white room tomorrow. If > you want to check out the site and maybe post a question to her (which > she herself will answer!) it'll be up at www.channel4.com from tomorrow. > > Cheers, > Rachel Sinead is becoming quite active lately, and these are, of course, very good news. I think the one and only question -I- would ask her is - when will she finally release a new album! Shalom. +---------------------+-----------------------------------------------------+ | Yoav Gonen | "Whatever it may bring | | yogon@cs.huji.ac.il | I will live by my own policies | | Hebrew University | I will sleep with a clear conscience | | Jerusalem, Israel | I will sleep in peace..." | +---------------------+-------Sinead O'connor, The emperor's new clothes----+ From jitr-owner Sat Jul 27 04:18:25 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id EAA17911 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 04:18:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id EAA17905 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 04:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (ah19.pi.net [145.220.203.19]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA00991 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:17:56 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:17:56 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:17:56 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960727141457.1ebfbe32@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: anna@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Eduard Verheijen Subject: am i not your girl speech Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Today i received the cd 'am I not your girl' printed in Signapore. The versions i already have (Holland, UK, USA, GERMANY) all have the known speech at the end after the instrumental version of Don't cry for me Argentina. But the version i got now from Signapore doesn't have this speech. It's simply not on the cd. I was wondering if there are jitr-readers who also have a cd printed somewhere wich doesn't contain the speech at the end. Please let me know (privately or by jitr) Thanks... eduard ************************************** We never touched, we never kissed **Eduard Verheijen ** Ta bean in Ede a bheadh ag ead liom mur bhfaighfinn ach pog ************************************ From jitr-owner Sat Jul 27 04:18:35 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id EAA17929 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 04:18:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id EAA17906 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 04:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (ah19.pi.net [145.220.203.19]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA01010 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:18:01 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:18:01 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:18:01 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960727141500.1ebf9dec@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: anna@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Eduard Verheijen Subject: sinead on channel 4 (england) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, is there someone who can receive the brittish chanel 4 and who is willing to make a copy for me of the program sinead attended to this weekend. I'm sure we can come to some sort of deal. Thanks....eduard > >Sinead will be appearing on the music show the white room tomorrow. If >you want to check out the site and maybe post a question to her (which >she herself will answer!) it'll be up at www.channel4.com from tomorrow. > ************************************** We never touched, we never kissed **Eduard Verheijen ** Ta bean in Ede a bheadh ag ead liom mur bhfaighfinn ach pog ************************************ From jitr-owner Sat Jul 27 08:33:56 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id IAA18344 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 08:33:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from monet.telebyte.nl (root@monet.telebyte.nl [193.67.242.12]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id IAA18339 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 08:33:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from default (nm-1-24.telebyte.nl [193.67.242.246]) by monet.telebyte.nl (8.7.3/8.6.11) with SMTP id RAA07864 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 17:33:13 +0200 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960727152949.006cdc58@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 17:29:49 +0200 To: Sinead Mailing List From: Mars-L Subject: Common Grounds Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Updating my Sinead discography I noticed I only have the details of the dutch version of the common ground cd. If you have another (US/UK/AUS/FRA etc) please let me know. It's not much work to look at it is it :-) ? * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I jumped in the river * * HTTP://WWW.TELEBYTE.NL/~BOBBINK/ * * and I like it there * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From jitr-owner Sat Jul 27 08:54:07 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id IAA18428 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 08:54:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from monet.telebyte.nl (root@monet.telebyte.nl [193.67.242.12]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id IAA18423 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 08:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from default (nm-1-24.telebyte.nl [193.67.242.246]) by monet.telebyte.nl (8.7.3/8.6.11) with SMTP id RAA08221 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 17:53:41 +0200 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960727155018.006cb33c@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 17:50:18 +0200 To: Sinead Mailing List From: Mars-L Subject: HOMEPAGE UPDATED Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, My homepage is updated now, if you still miss some things please let me know. All lyrics are updated and corrected (I hope) and some stuff is added. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I jumped in the river * * HTTP://WWW.TELEBYTE.NL/~BOBBINK/ * * and I like it there * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From jitr-owner Sat Jul 27 09:42:25 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id JAA18525 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 09:42:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from ping.at (pong.ping.at [193.81.13.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id JAA18520 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 09:42:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from site51.ping.at by ping.at with UUCP id AA27666 (5.67b8/ping for jitr@postmodern.com); Sat, 27 Jul 1996 18:41:56 +0200 Received: by site51.ping.at (CrossPoint v3.11); 27 Jul 1996 18:41:58 +0200 Date: 27 Jul 1996 18:41:00 +0200 From: szendrey@site51.ping.at (Roman Szendrey) To: jitr@postmodern.com Message-Id: <6Dgp7niDe6B@site51.ping.at> References: <1.5.4.32.19960727152949.006cdc58@pop.telebyte.nl> Subject: Re: Common Grounds X-Mailer: CrossPoint v3.11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello Marcel, 27.07.96 / 17:29: You wrote in /Mailinglisten/JITR about "Common Grounds": > Hello, > > Updating my Sinead discography I noticed I only have the details of the > dutch version of the common ground cd. > If you have another (US/UK/AUS/FRA etc) please let me know. > It's not much work to look at it is it :-) ? there will be a CDE (it can also be used as a CD-ROM) available soon. here's some info about it that a friend of mine passed on to me: "For the past year, the mighty Microsoft has been working with different artists and labels to produce enhanced discs...The next title that should hit the stores with a Microsoft logo is a various-artists tribute to Irish folk music, titled _Common Ground_. That work, expected to be released in late September or early October, features songs from Kate Bush and U2's flamboyant front man, Bono." ciao roman ---------------------------------------------------- roman szendrey (szendrey@site51.ping.at) fidonet: 2:310/25.50 compuserve: 100347,612 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/szendrey/ vienna / austria ---------------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## From jitr-owner Mon Jul 29 16:32:49 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id QAA26854 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:32:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from monet.telebyte.nl (root@monet.telebyte.nl [193.67.242.12]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id FAA21484 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 05:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from default (nm-1-22.telebyte.nl [193.67.242.244]) by monet.telebyte.nl (8.7.3/8.6.11) with SMTP id OAA23627 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 14:17:11 +0200 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960728121345.00664a24@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 14:13:45 +0200 To: Sinead Mailing List From: Mars-L Subject: Help someone Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Doers someone know where this is about; -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >I need the name of a very haunting song , that Sinead sang at a >festival . The festival in question featured Belly , Elastica , Bjork , >Paul Weller or Westerberg I can't remember which , The Cure , and of >course Sinead . I saw this on t.v ,and the show was only an hour long . >I believe it was an all day event sumerized by showing only one song >from each preformers set . Anyway Sinead was shown singing a beautifully >hanting song ,that had the audience held silent and me in tears . I >hope you can help with this song title . ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Which song is it that this person is looking for ??? BTW; I re-updated my homepage, there where still some details in the discography missing, yesterday I thought that the work was finally done, but an hour after I mailed the message to this list I found 10 pages with some "not added" updates, so that's happend now. If you still miss some stuff PLEASE let me know, even if you mailed me about it earlier. Because of my movement I might have lost some papers (though I doubt it) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I jumped in the river * * HTTP://WWW.TELEBYTE.NL/~BOBBINK/ * * and I like it there * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From jitr-owner Mon Jul 29 18:53:18 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id SAA27411 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 18:53:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from sgi.sgi.com (SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id SAA27406 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 18:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA11075 for <@sgi.engr.sgi.com:jitr@postmodern.com>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 18:52:59 -0700 Received: from intense.engr.sgi.com (intense.engr.sgi.com [198.29.108.62]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA08401 for <@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com:jitr@postmodern.com>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 18:52:59 -0700 Received: (from viento@localhost) by intense.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA04542 for jitr@postmodern.com; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 18:52:58 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 18:52:58 -0700 From: viento@intense.engr.sgi.com (Tim Kniveton) Message-Id: <9607291852.ZM4540@intense.engr.sgi.com> In-Reply-To: Mars-L "Help someone" (Jul 28, 2:13pm) References: <1.5.4.32.19960728121345.00664a24@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.2S.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: Sinead Mailing List Subject: Re: Help someone Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On Jul 28, 2:13pm, Mars-L wrote: > >Anyway Sinead was shown singing a beautifully > >hanting song ,that had the audience held silent and me in tears . I > >hope you can help with this song title . > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Which song is it that this person is looking for ??? Doesn't this describe most of her songs? From jitr-owner Mon Jul 29 19:16:39 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id TAA27594 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 19:16:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from hula.maui.net (hula.maui.net [206.154.205.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id TAA27589 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 19:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maui306.maui.net (maui306.maui.net [206.154.206.116]) by hula.maui.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA09482 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:22:13 -1000 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:22:13 -1000 Message-Id: <199607300222.QAA09482@hula.maui.net> X-Sender: leads@maui.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Sinead Mailing List From: leads@maui.net (Taz) Subject: Please Excuse This Personal Note Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Cecilia, I have received your e-mails and have been responding to them. They haven't comeback as undelivered so I have been assuming you've gotten them. Any chance they're deleted before you get a chance to read 'em??!! Let me know. Also, I've lost all of my old e-mail which included your phone# and address--please send again and I hope you start to get my e-mail. Taz From jitr-owner Mon Jul 29 22:18:49 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id WAA28232 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 22:18:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from bcaxp1.bc.edu (bcaxp1.bc.edu [136.167.2.8]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id WAA28227 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 22:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bcra03p4.bc.edu by bcvms.bc.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #10960) id <01I7NZE6T6F4HSJQU7@bcvms.bc.edu> for jitr@server.postmodern.com; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 01:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 01:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Date-warning: Date header was inserted by bcvms.bc.edu From: debraski@bcvms.bc.edu (debraski@bcvms.bc.edu) Subject: Sinead in Irish Times 7-30-96 To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Message-id: <01I7NZE7HOXEHSJQU7@bcvms.bc.edu> Organization: Boston College Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello Everyone, I just came accross this "letter to the editor" in today's Irish Times. In case you don't know what she is referring to, it concerns the recent violence in Northern Ireland following the decision to allow Loyalist marches to parade through Nationalist areas. It has been a touchy subject, and no doubt Sinead will get receive some flack for her letter. I will post any replies to her letter if they appear. ps...the Irish Times web page is http://www.irish-times.com I think? ***** NORTHERN MAJORITY Sir, - In reference to Michael Purser's letter (July 24th) concerning Ireland and its "Northern majority", exactly what does he mean by "majority?" It makes me ill to hear Patrick Mayhew, and John Major, and God knows who else, all talking about this "Northern majority" and its rights. Everyone knows that in the province of Ulster there are nine counties, not six. And how did Ulster come to be known as "The Six Counties"? For those like Michael Purser and Mayhew, who seem to have forgotten, it was discovered that within the nine counties of Ulster, the majority in fact was Catholic, and so a false majority was created by the simple chopping off of three counties, leaving six counties and a loyalist "majority". (Exactly to what or whom are they loyal? Soon there will be no royal family to be loyal to!) Gerrymandering, I think is what it's called. A false majority which was created by liars for liars. The real majority of the people in the real province of Ulster are Catholic. And who ever cared about their "rights"? What about people's right to be Irish in their own country? What happened in Drumcree has shown the world, once and for all, that the real perpetrators of evil in Ireland have not been the Irish themselves. And certainly brought home, for me, the reason why the IRA was formed in the first place. Which was: to protect a people whom even the police could not protect. If the police cannot protect the Catholic people, then who will? Why does the Orange Order want to march through Catholic area anyway? It is like marching past the house of a family whose daughter you have raped, and chanting: "Hooray, we raped your daughter on this day". I am sorry for my language, and you can put it in stars. But I know that I am speaking the truest feelings of many Irish people, who do not get the chance to speak, when I say again that the lies I see going on around me concerning Ireland, as told by the only people who DO get a chance to speak, make me sick in my stomach. So Michael Purser, your Emperor has no clothes. What about their right to be Irish? In their own country? - Yours, etc., SINEAD O'CONNOR, London. **************** -- Paul Debraski * Louise Ni/ Fharrachair debraski@bcvms.bc.edu * c/o debraski@bcvms.bc.edu "Mr President, we must not allow * a mineshaft gap!"-Dr. Strangelove * SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL PBS MiSTie #51769 STATION From jitr-owner Mon Jul 29 23:43:02 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id XAA28442 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 23:43:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail-e2b-service.gnn.com (mail-e2b-service.gnn.com [204.148.102.170]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id XAA28437 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 23:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 66-133.client.gnn.com. (44-177.client.gnn.com [205.188.44.177]) by mail-e2b-service.gnn.com (8.7.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA10908 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 02:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607300642.CAA10908@mail-e2b-service.gnn.com> X-Mailer: GNNmessenger 1.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 01:40:52 From: Gaeltacht@gnn.com (Cecilia Bonnor) To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: do not read if you are offended by my posts Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ hello lovely jitr people--here's one of my sineadian expereinces from belfast the third partitioning of ireland--a response to ms.o'connor's letter in the __irish times__ whilst i was in dublin city, two weeks ago on 12th of july, there was an awful lot of tension because of the orangemen marches round nationalist areas [orangemen are the protestant supporters of "king billy"]. the whole war began 400 yrs. ago, at the batlle of the boyne. after being there, i have some sense of the tragedy of this war. it is difficult for me to describe the coldness a catholic-type like myself feels whilst walking along shankhill road. one cannot even drive up to belfast with a number plate from the republic of eire, because of the negative connotations that might arise as a result of the i.r.a. driving round the wrong neighbourhood in belfast could get one injured or killed. whilst i do agree with ms.o'connor's view that the i.r.a's original intent was to fight for irish independece and protection from british invasion, the brotherhood did in fact degenerate into a terrorist organisation.[in order to understand the north, something must be said fro the i.r.a.'s inextricable connection to ireland's past.] it is just as much the culprit as is the u.v.f. [ulster voluntary force/protestant order]. the fact is that while the majority of the people in ireland reject the i.r.a.'s agenda, they are anxious to find a solution to this war. ms.o'connor seems to argue that as a result of gerrymandering, the catholic minority in the north must constantly struggle for basic civil rights. one must remember that it was only recently that sinn fein won seats in the parliament. also, the new catholic minority must struggle with job discrimination and securing effective legislation. one need only walk along the peace line in order to sense the urgency of ms.o'connor's and others' demand for a careful re-examination of history. to ignore the victims' memory, as we have in northern ireland, is a violation of the past. cecilia bonnor From jitr-owner Tue Jul 30 12:16:16 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id MAA01937 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 12:16:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com (emout15.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.41]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id MAA01932 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 12:16:13 -0700 (PDT) From: LittleHoss@aol.com Received: by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA19683 for jitr@postmodern.com; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 15:17:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 15:17:22 -0400 Message-ID: <960730151721_248910553@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Thank You For Hearing Me Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Recently I stumbled upon a "Thank You For Hearing Me Single". To my surprise it had a "Parental Advisory" sticker upon it.???????????? -Little From jitr-owner Wed Jul 31 00:27:49 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id AAA03387 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 00:27:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail.xgw.fi (xgw1.pal.xgw.fi [193.64.41.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id AAA03382 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 00:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xgw10.xgw.fi (xgw10.pal.xgw.fi [193.64.41.10]) by mail.xgw.fi (8.6.11/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA08757; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 10:30:36 +0300 Received: from localhost (bloke@localhost) by xgw10.xgw.fi (8.6.5/8.6.4) id KAA05956; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 10:26:43 +0300 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 10:26:42 +0300 (EET DST) From: Jani Juvonen To: LittleHoss@aol.com cc: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Thank You For Hearing Me In-Reply-To: <960730151721_248910553@emout15.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On Tue, 30 Jul 1996 LittleHoss@aol.com wrote: > Recently I stumbled upon a "Thank You For Hearing Me Single". To my surprise > it had a "Parental Advisory" sticker upon it.???????????? Maybe someone has just put it there as a joke? -Jani Juvonen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Start a band, write some shit songs I http://www.xgw.fi/users/bloke/ and people pay you millions of pounds I--------------------------------- for it." - Noel Gallagher, Oasis I http://www.tripod.com/~Bloke/ From jitr-owner Wed Jul 31 13:17:40 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id NAA06501 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 13:17:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from monet.telebyte.nl (root@monet.telebyte.nl [193.67.242.12]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id NAA06496 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 13:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from default (nm-1-03.telebyte.nl [194.235.214.225]) by monet.telebyte.nl (8.7.3/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA02466 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 22:17:26 +0200 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960731201718.008a41d8@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 22:17:18 +0200 To: Sinead Mailing List From: Mars-L Subject: Chrysalis link Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, A while ago I found the official Chrysalis homepage, but I think I didn't mention the adress here so here it is; http://filament.illumin.co.uk/chrysalis/roster2.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I jumped in the river * * HTTP://WWW.TELEBYTE.NL/~BOBBINK/ * * and I like it there * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *