From jitr-owner Wed May 1 00:26:38 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id AAA10520 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 00:26:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id AAA10514 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 00:26:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pi-user.pi.net (Arn37.pi.net [145.220.203.37]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA29146 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 09:25:43 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 09:25:43 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 09:25:43 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960501092713.2d871222@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: anna@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Eduard Verheijen Subject: sinead collectors Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello marcel In respond to your previous mail, yes i do collect almost everything i can get my hands on from sinead and wich i can afford at that time. But i also have my limitations. A sinead-only (i mean not sinead singing with ......fill in yoiur own duet song) i would try to buy on as many formats and sizes i can get a grip on. BUT....i do not buy the engish,dutch,us pressing if they are completely alike. Ofcourse i bought the lion and the cobra twice (2 times 2cd and 2 times lp) just becouse there was a different sleeve picture. And yes, if the tracklisting is different (like the 'famine cd-single' i buy them both, and if there is a different song, radio-edit or edit or what-ever i buy it also. I have firo on babylon for instance on the cd, on the tape on the dutch cd 4 trackj, the dutch 2 track, the engish cd singles, the different vinyl versions and some promo cd-singles, and the promo video. So i'm not only in for the song but also for the different formats. But with all her guest duets i'm more than satisfied when i have the cd. I do not need the bomb the bass vinyl album and cassete tape etc. I do not have The Snake from shane mcgowan just becouse haunted is on. I have the cd single (and the promo) and thats more than enough for me. So i think my border is (except for the money ofcourse) wheter it's a sinead only or a guest song. But ofcourse i do want to have all her songs. So i paid about $25 to get the cd where 'someday my prince will come' is on (a song wich lenght is 1:08). Yep I'm that crazy. Eduard. (And besides, if i'd not bought all those things, who else would give you all the ordering and catalogue numbers) ----------------------------------------------------- Eduard Verheijen Everybody knew, nobody said Take care, stay alive it's a shitty world out there ------------------------------------------------------ From jitr-owner Wed May 1 00:26:45 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id AAA10540 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 00:26:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id AAA10531 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 00:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pi-user.pi.net (Arn37.pi.net [145.220.203.37]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA29156 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 09:25:50 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 09:25:50 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 09:25:50 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960501092719.2d8714c4@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: anna@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Eduard Verheijen Subject: not another, please Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Please, I like reading the sinead jitr. But only when it concerns sinead and what we think of her. Now we just had what kind of music we like, and now we come to what we all study or do when we are not behind our pc.screens. Shall we do that in privet e-mail instead, please. This way it saves me lots of download-time, lots of reading things i don't want to read becouse it has nothing to do with sinead. Yep, the jitr might be a bit quit then, but so is sinead also at this moment. Eduard ----------------------------------------------------- Eduard Verheijen Everybody knew, nobody said Take care, stay alive it's a shitty world out there ------------------------------------------------------ From jitr-owner Wed May 1 08:00:29 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id IAA13936 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:00:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from ibmmail.COM (ibmmail.com [199.171.26.3]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id IAA13931 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:00:26 -0700 (PDT) From: usboialg@ibmmail.com Message-Id: <199605011500.IAA13931@server.postmodern.com> Received: from ibmmail by ibmmail.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 6725; Wed, 01 May 96 10:58:42 EDT Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 10:59:30 EDT To: jitr@postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: COLLECTORS Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ TO: IBMMAIL.INTERNET COPIES: FROM: USBOIALG AL.GROTE PAPERRAD PHONE:(503)-286-7458 SUBJECT: COLLECTORS Mars-L If I have to spent $100.00 dollars for what I don't have, I will if its a fare price. Naturaly living in the US of A limits me to a fare amount of whats out there in other parts of the world namely Europe. I do have a couple of used records shops that call me should new or used music come in of Sinead's But I don't get much across the big ponds. Hell, I would like buy the European version of the "LATC" album (12" Vinyl and Cassette) if someone wants to get it for me for the cost and shipping. What is this Vision Bootleg you all are talking about? Is it the Beautiful Vision Bootleg? You made mention of having From a Whisper To A Scream, If so I sure would like to buy a copy of it.The moneys in the mail for the other 3 CD's and the copy of Live At The Paradise. ******************************** DISTRIBUTION ************************* IBMMAIL INTERNET BCISOFFS From jitr-owner Wed May 1 09:39:18 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id JAA14484 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 09:39:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id JAA14479 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 09:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA01187 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:22:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Wed, 1 May 96 11:20 CDT Received: by mars.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Wed, 1 May 96 11:20 CDT Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 11:20:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Carolyn Andre X-Sender: candre@Mars.mcs.com To: Sinead list Subject: Mna na h'eireann lyrics, please! (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Wieland Willker asked: > >Subject: Mna na h'eireann lyrics, please! > >I'm very much interested in the gaelic lyrics to this song >+ english translation, PULEEEZE!!!! Dublin singer (now based in New York City, USA) recently posted the following on the Irish Traditional Music list, and I'm passing it along: ------------ Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 12:42:19 -0500 From: Susan McKeown To: Multiple recipients of list IRTRAD-L Subject: Mna/ na hE/ireann Mna na hEireann (Peadar O/ Dorinin (?1704-1769)) Ta bean in Eirinn a phronnfadh sead damh is mo shaith le n-ol Is ta bean in Eireann is ba bhinne leithe mo rafla ceoil No seinm thead; ata bean in Eirinn is niorbh fhearr lei beo Mise ag leimnigh no leagtha i gcre is mo tharr faoi fhod Ta bean in Eirinn a bheadh ag ead liom mur bhfaighfinn ach pog O/ bhean ar aonach, nach ait an sceala, is mo dhaimh fein leo; Ta bean ab fhearr liom no cath is cead dhiobh nach bhfagham go deo Is ta cailin speiriuil ag fear gan Bhearla, dubhghranna croin. Ta bean a dearfadh da siulann leithe go bhfaighinn an t-or, Is ta bean 'na leine is is fearr a mein no na tainte bo Le bean a bhuairfeadh Baile an Mhaoir is clar Thir Eoghain, Is ni fhaicim leigheas ar mo ghalar fein ach scaird a dh'ol The Women of Ireland (Michael Davitt) There's a woman in Erin who'd give me shelter and my fill of ale; There's a woman in Ireland who'd prefer my strains to strings being played; There's a woman in Eirinn and nothing would please her more Than to see me burning or in a grave lying cold. There's a woman in Eirinn who'd be mad with envy if I was kissed By another on fair-day, they have strange ways, but I love them all; There are women I'll always adore, battalions of women and more And there's this sensuous beauty and she shackled to an ugly boar. There's a woman who promised if I'd wander with her I'd find some gold A woman in night dress with a loveliness worth more than the woman Who vexed Ballymoyer and the plain of Tyrone; And the only cure for my pain I'm sure is the ale-house down the road. Recordings (others please fill out/complete this list): The Chieftains, 196-?, Soundtrack for Barry Lyndon The Wolfe Tones, Woman of Ireland, 198-? Susan McKeown & the chanting house, Snakes/Mna na hE/ireann(first verse), on the album Bones, Sheila-na-Gig Music, 1995. Distributed in Ireland by Gael Linn. Sinead O'Connor, Mna na hE/ireann, 1995 Kate Bush, Mna na hEireann, orchestral arrangement by Fiachra Trench, on the album Common Ground, produced by Donal Lunny, EMI, 1996. Susan McKeown sheilagig@aol.com chanting@interport.net ------------------------------- hope this & the references help Carolyn +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Carolyn Andre Spread Your Music on the Electronic Freeway Chicago, IL / USA Chicago shows list (folk/singer-songwriter/Celtic) & candre@mcs.net Mary Black discography: http://www.mcs.com/~candre/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From jitr-owner Wed May 1 10:04:03 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id KAA14636 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:04:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id KAA14631 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.83.103.26] (smf-m7.facsmf.utexas.edu [128.83.103.26]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA19238 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:03:11 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 12:03:08 -0600 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Bonnorc@mail.utexas.edu (Cecilia Bonnor) Subject: the consequences of truth (please, no more sniper fire) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ A VERY WISE POEM FROM AN ALBUM MY FATHER GAVE TO ME WHEN I LOST ME INNOSENCE: ******************************************************************************** half close your eyelids, loosen your hair, and dream about the great and their pride: they have spoken against you everywhere, but weigh this song with the great and their pride; i made it out of a mouthful of air, their children's children shall say they have lived.-w.b. yeats **************************************************************************** **** this list is composed of very special people (sinead would be extremelky moved) and during the last few days, i have witnessed a kind of enlightenment which is alomst "sacred". and what is sacred? human solidarity, forgiveness, love, peace in our spirits, compassion....indeed all those qualities and much more. the spirit, surrounded by despair, will burn like a flame in the darkness and all will see that you and i are here. i listened to universal mother for a millenial time, last night and it was like a lullaby. it was dark and frail and vulnerable and i had tears burning with joy. i felt warm under the sheets and then it was time to hug my stuffed animals and chant my prayers. i felt dark and frail and fell silent in my heart, if this was possible. did i pray? yes (even dysfunctional types like me), i whisepered something to my mother, i told her how bitter i'd been, angry, but not filled with hatred. hatred is something one feels when one is blindly impassioned. but she responded, exactly, you should have looke insde yourelf, first, and what would you have found?-i don't know, i only know what it's like to have a gun close to your throat...-then you know nothing about letting go and pulling back. my truth is not your truth and thank god it is not. did you read drink before the war? did you look up and wonder, instead of bending your heart, like a snake and lashing out? did you recognise how overpowered you are, because remember, he who is not with me is against me? i heard you heaving in the darkness and saw you collapse. i don't care in whose name you did it. but why, why did you come to me, now? it's late and my heart aches and i don't want to see.-cold fell like knives on my flesh. i shivered and my heart fluttered with emptiness and then my spirit lifted and stood over me, looking dispassionately and cold. it took me a moment to regain my state of being again. o o o o o o, i am drunk drunk drunk with heated remorse. come back to me....she resumed, if you know what's good for you, you'll return to them and rise to be of them, not for them, but with them. i long for you to come and wash this stain from us.-my head bent, eyes closed, i waited for my lover and fell down with solemnity. words fought at my lips and i struggled to put some sense into this vision, but it was hopeless. my friend lifted me and we embraced and never never never did i feel so close to the music. we danced, vexed and soothed and slowly slowly with strings taut and wires on fire, our hands met like the ones that pray. god, i felt so tiny. we repeated the words to thank you for hearing me and felt released and abandoned. i am still waiting for you.... constantly, cecilia p.s. i give special thanks to myriam raymond, jani juvonen, yoav gonen, sorina (?), n'ann (?), amy (?), anne ross solberg, meghan chandler, stefan lundell, michel r. lalonde, tori and crisis, for their kindness and support. thank you for staying with me.-our friend and mentor (IMHO), sinead. From jitr-owner Wed May 1 10:21:23 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id KAA14754 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:21:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id KAA14749 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pita.cs.huji.ac.il by cs.huji.ac.il with SMTP id AA05225 (5.67b/HUJI 4.153 for ); Wed, 1 May 1996 20:20:32 +0300 Received: (from yogon@localhost) by pita.cs.huji.ac.il (8.7/1.1c) id UAA02165; Wed, 1 May 1996 20:19:49 +0300 (IDT) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 20:19:49 +0300 (IDT) From: Yoav Gonen To: Eduard Verheijen Cc: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: not another, please In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19960501092719.2d8714c4@pop.pi.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I don't agree at all with the opinion given by Eduard. I think that talking about performers that in some way "close" to Sinead, can help a lot of us. It let us expand our music knowledge to other artists that we may have never heard about before. So continue talking about other performers, and I would love to hear other members' opinions about similar albums and so on. Those who don't want to read about it can easily remove the e-mail from the mail box... IMHO. +---------------------+-----------------------------------------------------+ | Yoav Gonen | "It's sometimes just like sleeping | | yogon@cs.huji.ac.il | curling up inside my private tortures | | Hebrew University | I nestle into pain, hug suffering | | Jerusalem, Israel | caress every ache...." | +---------------------+---------------------------Bjork / Play Dead---------+ From jitr-owner Wed May 1 10:45:11 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id KAA14941 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:45:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from inet1.tek.com (inet1.tek.com [134.62.48.21]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id KAA14936 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:45:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by inet1.tek.com id ; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:43:31 -0700 Received: from me24.cse.tek.com(128.181.117.73) by inet1 via smap (V1.3) id sma014794; Wed May 1 10:40:35 1996 Received: from localhost.cse.tek.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by me24.cse.tek.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA09552 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605011740.KAA09552@me24.cse.tek.com> To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Other Artists Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 10:40:57 PDT From: Monty D Smith Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Along with all the discussion of other artists, I thought I'd run Sinead thru the Similarities Engine to see what comes up. For those not familiar with it (lifted from the web page): "Based on a survey of 18,000 Internet music fans, SE recommends music recording artists that you will probably enjoy, based on what you already know and enjoy." Find it at: http://www.ari.net/se/ Here's what those 18,000 people came up with: Your Choice-->OCONNOR,SINEAD _ Recommendations: Artist Confidence DR. JOHN High SMITH,PATTI Medium CRANBERRIES Medium MORRISON,VAN Medium PRINCE Medium SIBERRY,JANE Medium VEGA,SUZANNE Medium ARMATRADING,JOAN Medium AMOS,TORI Low THE THE Low METALLICA Low SCHOENFIELD,P. Low BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE Low SHELTER Low U2 Low ROCHES Low CONCRETE BLONDE Low MY BLOODY VALENTINE Low ROXETTE Low Take care Monty From jitr-owner Wed May 1 12:29:47 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id MAA16004 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:29:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail.nhmccd.cc.tx.us (mail.nhmccd.cc.tx.us [192.234.8.38]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id MAA15997; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:29:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Rizvi_Zeba/nhmccd_student@mail.nhmccd.cc.tx.us Received: from by mail.nhmccd.cc.tx.us with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA121838770; Wed, 1 May 1996 14:26:10 -0500 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 96 14:24:15 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: other albums Mime-Version: 1.0 To: bloke@xgw.fi, owner-jitr@postmodern.com Cc: jitr@server.postmodern.com, yogon@cs.huji.ac.il Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Re: other albums" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Well I just wanted to comment to Jani and say that The Cranberries 2nd album was just as good as the older one! I've liked them a long time and to say that their second album wasn't good is blasphemy (in my eyes atleast)... I respect anyones opinion but Yeats Grave;Daffodil Lament; Dreaming My Dreams; Ridiculous Thoughts etc etc...are wonderful.... Just a comment!!! Zima From jitr-owner Wed May 1 12:52:54 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id MAA16131 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:52:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail.xgw.fi (root@xgw1.pal.xgw.fi [193.64.41.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id MAA16124 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xgw10.xgw.fi (xgw10.pal.xgw.fi [193.64.41.10]) by mail.xgw.fi (8.6.11/8.6.4) with ESMTP id VAA01986; Wed, 1 May 1996 21:50:32 +0300 Received: from localhost (bloke@localhost) by xgw10.xgw.fi (8.6.5/8.6.4) id WAA16345; Wed, 1 May 1996 22:59:54 +0300 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 22:59:53 +0300 (EET DST) From: Jani Juvonen To: Rizvi_Zeba/nhmccd_student@mail.nhmccd.cc.tx.us cc: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: other albums In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On Tue, 30 Apr 1996 Rizvi_Zeba/nhmccd_student@mail.nhmccd.cc.tx.us wrote: > Well I just wanted to comment to Jani and say that The Cranberries 2nd > album was just as good as the older one! I've liked them a long time and > to say that their second album wasn't good is blasphemy (in my eyes > atleast)... I respect anyones opinion but Yeats Grave;Daffodil Lament; > Dreaming My Dreams; Ridiculous Thoughts etc etc...are wonderful.... > Just a comment!!! Yes, the second album is good, but I was talking about the new, third, album "To The Faithful Departed". It's utter bollocks. -Jani Juvonen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Start a band, write some shit songs I http://www.xgw.fi/users/bloke/ and people pay you millions of pounds I--------------------------------- for it." - Noel Gallagher, Oasis I http://www.tripod.com/~Bloke/ From jitr-owner Wed May 1 13:26:41 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id NAA16288 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:26:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail.xgw.fi (root@xgw1.pal.xgw.fi [193.64.41.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id NAA16283 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xgw10.xgw.fi (xgw10.pal.xgw.fi [193.64.41.10]) by mail.xgw.fi (8.6.11/8.6.4) with ESMTP id WAA02119; Wed, 1 May 1996 22:24:54 +0300 Received: from localhost (bloke@localhost) by xgw10.xgw.fi (8.6.5/8.6.4) id XAA16571; Wed, 1 May 1996 23:34:12 +0300 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 23:34:11 +0300 (EET DST) From: Jani Juvonen To: Mars-L cc: Sinead Mailing List Subject: Re: Collector-search In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19960429194744.006c6210@pop.telebyte.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Mars-L wrote: > For me that is someone who would even buy a cd priced $30,-- just because he > doesn't have that radio-edit which is on it, even if he already had a normal > edit of that song. Well, I wouldn't buy stuff I already have... but otherwise, I might spend quite alot on some rare thing. -Jani Juvonen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Start a band, write some shit songs I http://www.xgw.fi/users/bloke/ and people pay you millions of pounds I--------------------------------- for it." - Noel Gallagher, Oasis I http://www.tripod.com/~Bloke/ From jitr-owner Wed May 1 13:49:53 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id NAA16367 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:49:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from monet.telebyte.nl (root@monet.telebyte.nl [193.67.242.12]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id NAA16362 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bobbink (nm-1-08.telebyte.nl [193.67.242.230]) by monet.telebyte.nl (8.7.3/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA14931 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 22:48:58 +0200 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960501204901.006bfa6c@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 22:49:01 +0200 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Mars-L Subject: Re: jitr-digest V2 #96 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Eduard Verheijen You wrote; >Hello marcel Sorry for mentioning this but you where talking about "Not wanting personal mail through the JITR-List....." But you start this mail with "Hello Marcel". Though infact it was a message to everybody in an answer to my question, so not really important, just wanted to mention it. (And now I did the same :-)) >(And besides, if i'd not bought all those things, who else would give you >all the ordering and catalogue numbers) You gave me a lot info, and continiously send me updates, I am the first person to admit that. But reading it the way you wrote it, it gave me the impression to underrate the others who helped me with the discography. Esspecially the info at the moment I took over from Jason Boardman (who already had a discography of about 30% of the resent one, thanx Jason). At that point a lot of others gave me a lot of info, esspecially; Roman Szendrey, Stefan Lundell, Jani Juvonen, Christopher Miller (BTW; Chris; Have you looked at the details of the singles already??), and about 40% of the discography came from Ed Koort. This person (Ed) has a collection we all can only dream about (he's such an collector who has about 20 copies of The Lion And The Cobra, and FOUR!!! different copies of In Tua Nua). His collection list was endless and it took over a week to include his stuff to the discography. The only frustrating thing about him is that he doesn't have a computer, so can't access the list, homepages. BUT like I said; you are the one who keeps coming with updates, and I am very thankfull for that !!!! This leads to the next question to you all; If you have any item not included in the discography, PLEASE let me know !!! For example some of you MUST have another copy of the Universal Mother album, then the ones included in the discography; UK-vinyl UK-CD German-CD Dutch-CD UK-cassette Dutch-cassette * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * LADIES AND GENTLEMEN; ELVIS HAS LEFT THE BUILDING * * BUT; ROCK & ROLL IS ALIVE AND IT LIVE IN MINNEAPOLIS * * Mars-L * * bobbink@telebyte.nl * * visit the Mars-L Prince/Sinead homepage at; * * http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/home.htm * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From jitr-owner Wed May 1 13:59:14 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id NAA16462 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:59:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from ECCMAIN.essex.cc.md.us (eccmain.essex.cc.md.us [204.91.54.3]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id NAA16456 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:59:10 -0700 (PDT) From: LAR2@ECCMAIN.essex.cc.md.us Message-Id: <199605012059.NAA16456@server.postmodern.com> Received: from ECCMAIN.essex.cc.md.us by ECCMAIN.essex.cc.md.us (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3285; Wed, 01 May 96 16:59:14 EDT Date: Wed, 1 May 96 16:59:13 EDT To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: cranberries Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ i'll have to disagree. what i've heard from the cranberries latest is far from "utter bullocks." I think some put too much stock in the british press. and to whomever said that dolores is in it for the money- i disagree. AND IF THE OTHERS AREN"T IN IT FOR THE MONEY, why aren't they playing for free? From jitr-owner Wed May 1 14:04:18 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id OAA16585 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 14:04:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from eerie-gw (eerie.eerie.fr [146.19.2.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id OAA16580 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 14:04:14 -0700 (PDT) From: fraisse@eerie.fr Received: from mailhost2 ([146.19.5.5]) by eerie-gw (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15082; Wed, 1 May 96 23:08:57 +0200 Received: from image4 by image1 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22903; Wed, 1 May 96 23:09:51 +0200 Received: by image4 (4.1/SMI-4.a) id AA28727; Wed, 1 May 96 23:06:00 +0200 Date: Wed, 1 May 96 23:06:00 +0200 Message-Id: <9605012106.AA28727@image4> To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: cover tape Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Now that the list seems to live, now that many people seem to participate, this is my last try: Does anybody want to contribute a song to the cover tape? There are already 3 songs: - Caroline Von B. doing "I'm stretched on your grave" - Todd Bramy and his band doing "I-don't-remember-which-song".Not a very famous one indeed. - Me doing "Scorn not his simplicity". I really think the project is worth it.I find our versions not bad at all.As there were many people interested in the project a few months ago, I still hope... ciao, cyrille. From jitr-owner Wed May 1 15:04:23 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id PAA16972 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:04:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id PAA16967 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.83.101.19] (smf-a9.facsmf.utexas.edu [128.83.101.19]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA00310 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:03:31 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 17:03:28 -0600 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Bonnorc@mail.utexas.edu (Cecilia Bonnor) Subject: just like u said it would b, troy and fever 103, my bitchery Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ a poem for and about sinead (and for some of us, round here), by sylvia plath (i found this after a long night of studying, with a little bauhaus and joy division playing in the background. I think i'm going to put this in my book about sinead. in fact, i'll do a reading of it when i throw a sineadian party at my house, after school's over--indeed, life will be over for me....): fever 103 pure? what does it mean? the tongues of hell are dull, dull as the triple tongues of dull, fat cerberus who wheezes at the gate. incapable of licking clean the angry tendon, the sin, the sin. the tinder cries. the indelible smell of a snuffled candle! love, love the low smokes roll from me like isadora's sacrves, i'm in a fright one scarf will catch and anchor in the wheel, such yellow sullen smokes make their own element. they will not rise, but turndle round the globe choking the aged and the meek, the weak hothouse baby in its crib the ghastly orchid hanging its hanging garden in the air, devilish lepoard! radiation turned it white and killed it in an hour. greasing the body of adulterers like hiroshima ash and eating in. the sin. the sin. darling, all night i have been flickering, off, on, off,on. the sheets grow heavy as a lecher's kiss. three days, three nights. lemon water, chicken water, water make me retch. i am too pure for you or anyone. your body hurts me as the world hurts god. I am a lantern----------------- my head a moon of japanese paper, my gold beaten skin infinitely delicate and infinitely expensive. does not my heat astound you. and my light. all by myself i am a huge camellia glowing and coming and going, flush on flush. i think i am going up, i think i may rise------------- the beads of hot metal fly, and i, love,i am a pure acetylene virign attended by roses, by kisses, by cherubin, by whatever these pink things mean. not you, nor him not him, nor him (my selves dissolving, old whore petticoats)-------------------- to paradise..................................sylvia plath....................... intellectual prostitution. i sit in the bus, in the morning light, waiting to be uncanonised with the other homeless, you and i flicker, burning bright to hell. we are not one we find it necessary to cut ourselves, groaning. milk bleeds but you and i excommunicate everything. why are you curled up like a foetus? this hurts me. seven lashes, one for each deadly sin. sin. one for you and the rest for me. i am talking to you. you won't listen in a graveyard shift, with your boot over my voice. i open my mouth, something hollow as iron lodges itself there. let me out, out, out, out. i hang hang upside down. bastard. old man with deformed mind, how long are you going to continue this vigil? .........................................cecilia......................... From jitr-owner Wed May 1 20:52:26 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id UAA18771 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 20:52:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from bbs.phantasy.com (bbs.phantasy.com [156.46.216.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id UAA18766 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 20:52:22 -0700 (PDT) From: crisis@bbs.phantasy.com Received: from MHS by bbs.phantasy.com with MHS id BHAFBBEM.SMP ; Wed, 1 May 1996 23:06:30 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 23:06:12 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: To: jitr@postmodern.com Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ some people don't seem to think that what others have to say, and what they would like to talk about on this list is not as important as what they want. TOO BAD! sort through the messages you want to read and then, read them. if the topic of the posting is not of your interest, simply discard it. it's that simple. this is everyone's list. learn to share. probelm solved. From jitr-owner Wed May 1 23:51:59 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id XAA19287 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 23:51:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id XAA19282 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 23:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.83.101.52] (smf-c10.facsmf.utexas.edu [128.83.101.52]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA32733 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 01:51:11 -0500 X-Sender: Bonnorc@mail.utexas.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 01:51:10 -0600 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Mail Delivery Subsystem (by way of Bonnorc@mail.utexas.edu (Cecilia Bonnor)) Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: psotmodern.com: host not found) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ The original message was received at Thu, 2 May 1996 01:48:27 -0500 from smf-c10.facsmf.utexas.edu [128.83.101.52] ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 501 ... 550 Host unknown (Name server: psotmodern.com: host not found) ----- Original message follows ----- Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Bonnorc@mail.utexas.edu Received: from [128.83.101.52] (smf-c10.facsmf.utexas.edu [128.83.101.52]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA22075 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 01:48:27 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 01:48:25 -0600 To: jitr@psotmodern.com From: Bonnorc@mail.utexas.edu (Cecilia Bonnor) Subject: sineadian moments at home in the library hello jitr people (is there anybody in there?), i am closeted in the library and can't seem to put mind to book. (by the way, what did all of you think about the sylvia plath poem, and what about mine? it shows that i'm a starving artist.) please take a bit of time out from your busy schedules to answer these questions. don't worry, no one will be flamed and the more and lengthier answers the better. the answers will be posted at some future date on the list. thank you! hypothesis: someone recently noted that sinead would start work on her new album after brigidine (?) got settled. so just let your imagination wander where you can be as loose as a goose. 1.who would you like to see open up sinead's gig?______________________________ 2.where would you like to see her play (large venue/small venue) explain_______ 3.if you could spend a day with sinead, what would you do? why?________________ 4.give an approxiamte date of when sinead will release her new album.___________ 5.what would be your ideal set list for the gig?_______________________________ (this might get a discussion going...) **************************************************************************** *** please attach e-mail address___________________________________________________ your name______________________________________________________________________ optional: age______________ sex___________________ marital status________________________ occupation________________nationality___________________ ******************************************************************************** ps. for those of you who have written me (you know who you are), i am taking final examinations at the moment, so i won't be writing back until the weekend. thanks for your patience. one love.................bob marley............................................. cecilia From jitr-owner Wed May 1 23:58:04 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id XAA19368 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 23:58:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id XAA19363 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 23:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.83.101.52] (smf-c10.facsmf.utexas.edu [128.83.101.52]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA25896 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 01:57:17 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 01:57:16 -0600 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Bonnorc@mail.utexas.edu (Cecilia Bonnor) Subject: sineadian moments at home in the library Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ hello jitr people (is there anybody in there?), i am closeted in the library and can't seem to put mind to book. (by the way, what did all of you think about the sylvia plath poem, and what about mine? it shows that i'm a starving artist.) please take a bit of time out from your busy schedules to answer these questions. don't worry, no one will be flamed and the more and lengthier answers the better. the answers will be posted at some future date on the list. thank you! hypothesis: someone recently noted that sinead would start work on her new album after brigidine (?) got settled. so just let your imagination wander where you can be as loose as a goose. 1.who would you like to see open up sinead's gig?______________________________ 2.where would you like to see her play (large venue/small venue) explain_______ 3.if you could spend a day with sinead, what would you do? why?________________ 4.give an approxiamte date of when sinead will release her new album.___________ 5.what would be your ideal set list for the gig?_______________________________ (this might get a discussion going...) **************************************************************************** *** please attach e-mail address___________________________________________________ your name______________________________________________________________________ optional: age______________ sex___________________ marital status________________________ occupation________________nationality___________________ ******************************************************************************** ps. for those of you who have written me (you know who you are), i am taking final examinations at the moment, so i won't be writing back until the weekend. thanks for your patience. one love.................bob marley............................................. cecilia From jitr-owner Thu May 2 02:53:04 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id CAA21476 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 02:53:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from monet.telebyte.nl (root@monet.telebyte.nl [193.67.242.12]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id CAA21471 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 02:52:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bobbink (nm-1-26.telebyte.nl [193.67.242.248]) by monet.telebyte.nl (8.7.3/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA23704 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 11:52:05 +0200 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960502095201.006c7640@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 11:52:01 +0200 To: Sinead Mailing List From: Mars-L Subject: Sinead-Trading-List Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, I'm thinking of starting a Sinead-Trading-List, though I am affraid there isn't enouigh interest to make it really work. But I want to try it. Are there people who have anything of Sinead to trade, or sale ??? Mail me them, together with the stuff you are looking for. I will put all those messages together as one "mailing-list", and send them out to all of the ones who are included. Also if you're just looking for items/videos/songs/bootlegs etc etc.... Mail me. How should such a mail look like ??? Preferly this way; Example !! ================================================================= NAME; Marcel Bobbink COUNTRY; The Netherlands E-MAIL; bobbink@telebyte.nl LOOKING FOR; Sinead O'Connor cd-single "Don't cry for me..."(French) incl.radio version Sinead O'Connor cd-single "I want your (hands on me)" Sinead O'Connor cd-single "Jump in the river" Sinead O'Connor bootleg "Live at the Paradise" Jah Wobble cd-single "The ungodley Kingdom EP" The Colourfield 12"-vinyl "She" incl. Monkey in Winter In Tua Nua 7"-vinyl "Take My Hand" or "Take my Heart" In Tua Nua 12"-vinyl "Take my Hand" or "Take my Heart" Marxman vinyl-album "33 revolutions per minute" Roger Daltrey bootleg "Live at Carnegie Hall-New York-26th febr. 1994" TRADING ITEMS; Visions bootleg (concert 1995) 7" Three Babies (GER) 7" Mandinka (GER) 7" My Special Child (UK) OTHER INTERESTING STUFF TO TRADE; Lots of Video Clips Tape dubs of All songs included in the discography CD-Recordable with songs you need. (Only when the trade is worth it) ========================================================================= Send them to me, and make my dream come true that I will find items this way. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * LADIES AND GENTLEMEN; ELVIS HAS LEFT THE BUILDING * * BUT; ROCK & ROLL IS ALIVE AND IT LIVE IN MINNEAPOLIS * * Mars-L * * bobbink@telebyte.nl * * visit the Mars-L Prince/Sinead homepage at; * * http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/home.htm * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From jitr-owner Thu May 2 02:57:32 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id CAA21547 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 02:57:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from goggins.uio.no (goggins.uio.no [129.240.201.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id CAA21542 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 02:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ulrik.uio.no by goggins.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <18820-0@goggins.uio.no>; Thu, 2 May 1996 11:56:30 +0200 Received: from pchfstud10 by hedda.uio.no ; Thu, 2 May 1996 11:56:27 +0200 Message-Id: <199605020956.LAA27402@hedda.uio.no> X-Sender: anners@hedda.uio.no X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 11:54:33 +0100 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Anne Ross Solberg Subject: Can someone forward? Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ A question: Can anyone forward the last 7 jitr-digest postings? (#91 - #96) Something happened to my e-mail and I didnt get the chance to read all of= them. Thank you! Other artists: Someone mentioned DUBSTAR; I definately agree. They`re really plastic and shallow and fashionably ironic, but great, still.=20 In addition, I listen to: Cranberries (haven`t heard the last one, have a feeling it`s not as good as the other two.) This Mortal Coil Pale Saints Lisa Germano Bj=F8rk P.J.Harvey Tori Amos Tindersticks Cheb Khaled Waterboys Bel Canto Massive Attack etc. ################################################ ------------------------------------------------ "God is good. WE`RE the ones who have fucked it up. God is probably sitting up there biting his nails, he`s probably smoking a joint and thinking "Shit, what am I supposed to do now?" ------------------------------------------------=20 ...............Sinead O`Connor.................. ################################################ From jitr-owner Thu May 2 04:05:50 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id EAA21716 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 04:05:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from monet.telebyte.nl (root@monet.telebyte.nl [193.67.242.12]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id EAA21711 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 04:05:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bobbink (nm-0-10.telebyte.nl [193.67.242.202]) by monet.telebyte.nl (8.7.3/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA24840 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:04:53 +0200 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960502110445.006b6340@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 13:04:45 +0200 To: Sinead Mailing List From: Mars-L Subject: my answers Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Bonnorc@mail.utexas.edu (Cecilia Bonnor) wrote; >1.who would you like to see open up sinead's gig? Guess 1 time ??? :-) O(+> , TAFKAPrince :-) >2.where would you like to see her play (large venue/small venue) explain Small venue, much more intimate. >3.if you could spend a day with sinead, what would you do? why? You don't wanna know, believe me :-) If I would mail that it would be censored anyway :-) >4.give an approxiamte date of when sinead will release her new album. September ! (I think) >5.what would be your ideal set list for the gig? Damn Your Eyes Famine Troy All Apologies In This Heart Ode to Billy Joe Red Football And a lot more, but this would be great if included. >please attach e-mail; I don't know what this has to do with it but okay; address; bobbink@telebyte.nl your name; Marcel Bobbink (aka Mars-L) age; 28 sex; Male marital status; Living together for 7 years occupation; Helping mentally distorded people making a living nationality; Dutch * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * LADIES AND GENTLEMEN; ELVIS HAS LEFT THE BUILDING * * BUT; ROCK & ROLL IS ALIVE AND IT LIVE IN MINNEAPOLIS * * Mars-L * * bobbink@telebyte.nl * * visit the Mars-L Prince/Sinead homepage at; * * http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/home.htm * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From jitr-owner Thu May 2 05:30:07 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id FAA21996 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 05:30:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id FAA21991 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 05:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pi-user.pi.net (Arn44.pi.net [145.220.203.44]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA11036 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 14:29:12 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 14:29:12 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 14:29:12 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960502143039.1ec7dc1e@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: anna@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Eduard Verheijen Subject: lyrics Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello Is there somebody who knows the missing words (at the ...(?)...to this Dusty Springfield song WHERE=92S A WOMAN TO GO [Performed by Dusty Springfield with backing vocals by Sin=E9ad at the tv program =91Later with Jools Holland=92] Maybe it was wrong Maybe I wasn=92t right But there was a reason=20 I=92m on my own tonight He has gone his way and I have gone mine When I met you, you=92re sorry all the time Sometimes your friends ain=92t always available Pick you up when you=92re feeling down, down, down Your daddy would die if he knew his baby Seeking refuge in a little old bar across town So tell me Where=92s a woman to go When she=92s feeling alone And all she wants to do is feel a little better So tell me Where=92s a woman to go When she=92s feeling alone And all she wants to do is feel a little better Hey bartender Honey, give me change for a ten dollar bill <=3D=3D=3D=3Di'm not sure weet= ik niet zeker Bring it back as a stack (?) ..........as you will <=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DI don't= know j Couse I=92m going away Every song ...(?)....makes me cry Find out how many tears ten dollars can buy So tell me Where=92s a woman to go When she=92s feeling alone And all she wants to do is feel a little better So tell me Where=92s a woman to go When she=92s feeling alone And all she wants to do is feel a little better Tell me Where=92s a woman to go When she=92s feeling alone And all she wants to do is feel a little better Tell me Where=92s a woman to go When she=92s feeling alone And all she wants to do is feel a little better ----------------------------------------------------- Eduard Verheijen =20 Everybody knew, nobody said Take care, stay alive it's a shitty world out there ------------------------------------------------------ From jitr-owner Thu May 2 06:28:22 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id GAA22163 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 06:28:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (kuhub.cc.ukans.edu [129.237.32.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id GAA22156 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 06:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from washington.engr.ukans.edu by KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU (PMDF V5.0-5 #13311) id <01I482DZ9OO093S124@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU>; Thu, 02 May 1996 08:26:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: by washington.engr.ukans.edu (4.1/KU-1.6s) id AA12845; Thu, 02 May 1996 08:28:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 08:28:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Highlander Subject: Re: cranberries In-reply-to: <199605012059.NAA16456@server.postmodern.com> X-Sender: jrussell@washington To: LAR2@ECCMAIN.essex.cc.md.us Cc: jitr@server.postmodern.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello all, I've been listen to the Cranberries new CD for about the last 36 hours and i think its great. It's a different style and direction for the band, but there are at least 6 good songs on it. I highly recommend it! It was released April 30 in the States and i'm not sure when it might be released elsewhere. If you want any more info please email me directly! My Humble Musical Opinion, jrussell P.S. -> Liz Phair has a new CD out also with a bunch of good songs! From jitr-owner Thu May 2 07:46:11 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id HAA22564 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 07:46:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail.xgw.fi (xgw1.pal.xgw.fi [193.64.41.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id HAA22524 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 07:45:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xgw10.xgw.fi (xgw10.pal.xgw.fi [193.64.41.10]) by mail.xgw.fi (8.6.11/8.6.4) with ESMTP id QAA06389; Thu, 2 May 1996 16:42:23 +0300 Received: from localhost (bloke@localhost) by xgw10.xgw.fi (8.6.5/8.6.4) id RAA18397; Thu, 2 May 1996 17:51:37 +0300 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 17:51:36 +0300 (EET DST) From: Jani Juvonen To: Highlander cc: LAR2@ECCMAIN.essex.cc.md.us, jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: cranberries In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On Thu, 2 May 1996, Highlander wrote: > I've been listen to the Cranberries new CD for about the last 36 hours and > i think its great. It's a different style and direction for the band, but > there are at least 6 good songs on it. I highly recommend it! I wonder what kind of mathematical calculations you have done, to figure out that 6 songs out of 15 is enough to make an album great and recommendable? Personally i think there's only 2-3 good songs on it, and even they are not very good... Anyway, if people start praising that album here, I'll unsubscribe.... like I already unsubbed the Cranberries list. -Jani Juvonen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Start a band, write some shit songs I http://www.xgw.fi/users/bloke/ and people pay you millions of pounds I--------------------------------- for it." - Noel Gallagher, Oasis I http://www.tripod.com/~Bloke/ From jitr-owner Thu May 2 10:11:20 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id KAA23334 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 10:11:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from axp.lpl.lib.ky.us (AXP.LPL.LIB.KY.US [206.203.54.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id KAA23329 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 10:11:16 -0700 (PDT) From: AMY@axp.lpl.lib.ky.us Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 13:11:20 -0400 (EDT) To: JITR@POSTMODERN.COM Message-Id: <960502131120.2704f@axp.lpl.lib.ky.us> Subject: Favorite word of the day: Botswana Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello all. Let's see, where to begin? OK, I'll try to answer Cecilia's survey... 1.) Who to open for Sinead--- this is an interesting question. I can't really think of anyone that would "fit", I suppose. An all chick line-up would be cool... P.J. Harvey (who was opening for Live recently), Liz Phair, Kirsty Maccoll, etc. Ohhh... Elvis Costello. 2.) Venue--- small venue, definately, for the increased intimacy. Although, if the whole audience was really die-hard fans of hers, that whole vibe would be very nice. 3.) Set list: Troy I am Stretched on your Grave irish Ways and Irish Laws Jackie Just call me Joe The Last Day of our acquaintance Don't cry for me argentina Black coffee Fire on Babylon John I love you Red Football All Apologies I do not want what I haven't got... would be the last song she does, just her, alone on stage In this heart Ok, this is getting ridiculous. Any song she wanted to do would be fine by me. :) 4.) Probable release date for new album: I would say early next year. Feb, 97. Bio stuff: Name: Amy Suzanne Giles Address: amy@axp.lpl.lib.ky.us (I think, I always get the lpl and lib mixed up) Age: 21 Occupation: Clerk in the Outreach Dept. at the lexington public library, various tasks for a local theater group (stage-manager, lights, sound) for which I am not paid. :) Nationality: American Marital status: single 5.) Spend a day with Sinead--- I think it would be cool to watch her work on an album. Or, there is this really cool independent book store here in town (Jospeh Beth Booksellers) that I love to take people to, and I would like to take her there too. Or just talk to her all day long. OK, I think this is about it. I hope I have answered everything. Now, The Cranberries debate... I really liked the first album, the second was OK, and I have really no interest in the third. A thought: What's the harm in getting to know the people on the list, esp. since Sinead isn't really doing anything now, music-wise? I think a lot of the so-called bickering that has happened could be avoided if people knew each otherbetter and knew how to gauge possible reactions. :) Amy From jitr-owner Thu May 2 11:28:08 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id LAA24064 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 11:28:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail.xgw.fi (root@xgw1.pal.xgw.fi [193.64.41.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id LAA24059 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 11:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xgw10.xgw.fi (xgw10.pal.xgw.fi [193.64.41.10]) by mail.xgw.fi (8.6.11/8.6.4) with ESMTP id UAA07358; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:26:13 +0300 Received: from localhost (bloke@localhost) by xgw10.xgw.fi (8.6.5/8.6.4) id VAA18773; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:34:46 +0300 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 21:34:46 +0300 (EET DST) From: Jani Juvonen To: Cecilia Bonnor cc: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: sineadian moments at home in the library In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On Thu, 2 May 1996, Cecilia Bonnor wrote: > i am closeted in the library and can't seem to put mind to book. I think I know the feeling; I've worked in a library... 2 libraries, actually. (Thank all gods I no longer am there!) > 1.who would you like to see open up sinead's gig?______________________________ Lush or Sleeper. Or both. That would be excellent. > 2.where would you like to see her play (large venue/small venue) explain_______ Large enough that everyone who want's can be there... but also small venue would be ok, as long as I get a ticket there. :) > 3.if you could spend a day with sinead, what would you do? why?________________ Well, I suppose we go some place to eat, and maybe drive around country side, kinda sightseeing, if it's a nice day, and talk about whatever seems to be interesting for both of us... and of course I'd try to get her autograph on some albums and stuff... :) And whatever we'd like to do then. I don't like planning things too carefully. Why? I don't know and i don't even want to know. > 4.give an approxiamte date of when sinead will release her new album.___________ Spring '97. > 5.what would be your ideal set list for the gig?_______________________________ > (this might get a discussion going...) I don't know... some stuff from all the albums, and also songs that aren't on her albums... Heroine etc you know. I'd be happy with anything really. Well, more guitar based songs than synthesized stuff. > **************************************************************************** > *** > please attach e-mail > address_____bloke@xgw.fi______________________________________________ > your name_______Jani Juvonen_______________________________ > optional: > age__23____________ sex___male________________ marital status____not____________________ > occupation___vague___nationality_____Finnish______________ > ******************************************************************************** -Jani Juvonen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Start a band, write some shit songs I http://www.xgw.fi/users/bloke/ and people pay you millions of pounds I--------------------------------- for it." - Noel Gallagher, Oasis I http://www.tripod.com/~Bloke/ From jitr-owner Thu May 2 11:40:48 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id LAA24154 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 11:40:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from axp.lpl.lib.ky.us (AXP.LPL.LIB.KY.US [206.203.54.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id LAA24148 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 11:40:45 -0700 (PDT) From: AMY@axp.lpl.lib.ky.us Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 14:40:52 -0400 (EDT) To: JITR@POSTMODERN.COM Message-Id: <960502144052.2704f@axp.lpl.lib.ky.us> Subject: Two things... Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I forgot this in my last message.. 1.) I am female 2.) I would also like Sinead to do "Red Rain" by Peter Gabriel. If I had to pick, that would be favorite song of his and I think it would be interesting to hear her do it. Amy From jitr-owner Thu May 2 13:37:06 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id NAA24911 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:37:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id NAA24906 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [205.149.181.22] (digab.vip.best.com [205.149.181.22]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA00516 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:24:23 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 13:25:24 -0700 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: digab@best.com (Sorina Diaconescu) Subject: Re: sineadian moments in the library Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I found these questions in my mailbox!!! >> Q: 1.who would you like to see open up sinead's gig? A: GREEN DAY!! CAN YOU IMAGINE?!!! THE NUTTY WACKO'S FROM THE BAY AREA AND THE DELICATE IRISH FLOWER..IT'D BE LIKE "THE BEAUTY & THE BEAST"!!! >> Q: 2.where would you like to see her play (large venue/small venue) explain A: DEFINATELY SMALL!! THE ACOUSTIC IS MUCH BETTER...PLUS THE INTIMACY THAT SINEAD'S VOICE CREATES BETWEEN HER & THE ORDINARY MORTALS...*THE audience* >> Q: 3.if you could spend a day with sinead, what would you do? why? A: IF I COULD SPEND A DAY WITH SINEAD I WOULD LIKE HER TO TEACH ME TO SING AS BEAUTIFULLY AS HER AND THEN WE'D PROBABLY GO ON BITCHING ABOUT MEN A BIT *GULP!*, EXCHANGE COOKING RECIPE'S AND GO OUT AND HAVE FUN...THEN WE'D TRY TO CAUSE AS MUCH TROUBLE AS POSSIBLE IN ALL THE VENUES WE'D VENTURE TO GO INTO!!! SHE'S A FUN PERSON TO BE WITH, I CAN TELL THAT!! >> Q: 4.give an approxiamte date of when sinead will release her new album. I WOULD NEVER KNOW THAT!!! IT'LL BE ONLY CHANGING DIAPERS, BOTTLE FEEDING AND BABYSITTING FOR HER FOR A WHILE..!! >>Q: 5.what would be your ideal set list for the gig? !!! "LOTS OF SONGS FROM HER 2ND ALBUM AND MAYBE A COUPLE OF IRISH BALLADS..."THE SCARLET RIBBONS" MAYBE, THEN "YOU MADE ME THE THIEF OF YOUR HEART" *what a baeutiful song!!!* AND "IN THIS HEART". BUT I GUESS IT'LL DEPEND ON HER *AND MY!!* MOOD!! >> please attach e-mail >> address attached already @ the top of this letter >> your name: the Leprechaun lassie *smiles* >> optional: >> age 21 >>sex YES!! >>marital status >> occupation dreamer >>nationality Je suis de San Francisco From jitr-owner Thu May 2 13:48:19 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id NAA24993 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:48:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from sentry.mmmg.com (sentry.mmmg.com [136.229.1.5]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id NAA24988 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Darren_Rogers (darren_rogers.mmm.com) by mail.mmmg.com with SMTP id AA22791 (3M-1.1 for ); Thu, 2 May 1996 15:46:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199605022046.AA22791@mail.mmmg.com> X-Sender: us318746@mail.mmmg.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 15:47:15 -0400 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Darren Rogers Subject: Reply to Cecilia's Question Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ 1.who would you like to see open up sinead's gig? Sharon Shannon, or another Gaelic instrumentalist. 2.where would you like to see her play (large venue/small venue) explain An amphitheater in a small town, like Frederick, MD, where you can sit on the grass, have a picnic, and enjoy - especially if the concert consisted of Sinead's softer music. Large arenas sap the beauty from things. 3.if you could spend a day with sinead, what would you do? why? Apart from the obvious, I'd like to take her for a walk in the Shenandoah Forest, listening to anything she had to say. I would love to hear her sing to my child, especially "In This Heart" or "Petit Poulet". 4.give an approximate date of when sinead will release her new album. August '96 5.what would be your ideal set list for the gig? Three Babies In This Heart Red Football Just Like You Said It Would Be Troy Feel So Different Don't Give Up Just Call Me Joe Nothing Compares To You or just about anything... ***************************************************************** address Winchester, VA your name Darren Rogers optional: age 28 sex M occupation ceramic engineer nationality us *********************************************************************** From jitr-owner Thu May 2 17:22:57 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id RAA26312 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 17:22:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from monet.telebyte.nl (root@monet.telebyte.nl [193.67.242.12]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id RAA26307 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 17:22:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bobbink (nm-0-21.telebyte.nl [193.67.242.213]) by monet.telebyte.nl (8.7.3/8.6.11) with SMTP id CAA00206 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 02:22:05 +0200 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960503002202.006b24c8@pop.telebyte.nl> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.telebyte.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 02:22:02 +0200 To: Sinead Mailing List From: Mars-L Subject: What do you want? Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, PLEAZZZZEEEEEEE !!! Could someone post the original Gaelic-lyrics of "What do you want?" Also is there someone who can transcibe and/or translate; MRAYA ??? * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * LADIES AND GENTLEMEN; ELVIS HAS LEFT THE BUILDING * * BUT; ROCK & ROLL IS ALIVE AND IT LIVE IN MINNEAPOLIS * * Mars-L * * bobbink@telebyte.nl * * visit the Mars-L Prince/Sinead homepage at; * * http://www.telebyte.nl/~bobbink/home.htm * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From jitr-owner Thu May 2 18:51:07 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id SAA26914 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 18:51:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id SAA26909 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 18:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.83.102.14] (smf-d4.facsmf.utexas.edu [128.83.102.14]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA19984 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:50:17 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 20:50:19 -0600 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Bonnorc@mail.utexas.edu (Cecilia Bonnor) Subject: the stolen children of jitr Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ a little something from sinead's homeland. i once did a poetry reading of this with universal mother playing in the background. for all of you, who dared to jump in the river................................. -the stolen child- where dips the rocky highland of sleuth wood in the lake there lies a leafy island where flapping herons wake the drowsy water-rats; there we've hid our faery vats, full of berries and of reddest stolen cherries. come away, oh human child! to the waters and the wild with a faery, hand in hand, for the world's more full of weeping than you can understand. where the wave of moonlight glosses the dim grey sands with light, far off by furthest roses we foot it all the night,weaving olden dances, mingling hands and mingling glances till the moon has taken flight; to and fro we leap and chase the frithy bubbles, while the world is full of troubles and is anxious in its sleep. come away, o human child! to the waters and the wild with a faery, hand in hand, for the world's more full of weeping than you can understand. where the wandering water gushes from the hills above glen-car in pools among the rushes that scarce could bathe a star, we seek for slumbering trout and whispering in their ears give them unquiet dreams; leaning softly out from ferns that drop their tears over the young streams. come away, o human child! to the waters and the wild with a faery, hand in hand, for the world's more full of weeping than you can understand. away with us he's going, the solemn-eyed: he'll bear no more the lowing of the calves on the warm hillside or the kettle on the hob sing peace into his breast, or see the brown mice bob round and round the oatmeal-chest. for he comes, the human child, to the waters and the wild with a faery, hand in hand, from a world more full of weeping than he can undserstand.-w.b.yeats From jitr-owner Thu May 2 20:55:01 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id UAA27450 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:55:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from infoweb.magi.com (infoweb.magi.com [198.53.212.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id UAA27445 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magi03p46.magi.com (magi04p08.magi.com [198.53.212.108]) by infoweb.magi.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA28094 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 23:54:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605030354.XAA28094@infoweb.magi.com> X-Sender: mlalonde@magi.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 23:51:34 -0400 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: mlalonde@magi.com (Michel R. Lalonde) Subject: Re: Cecilia's survey on Sinead Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Cecilia's survey: 1.who would you like to see open up sinead's gig? Tough question .... in the sense that an opening act usually is some unknown or some upcoming artist ... If that's one of the criteria .... then perhaps I'd say Jewel. However, if we're to have an opening act without any of the usual rules (i.e. in a dream world) as to relative popularity or time limits on stage... then I'd say Heather Nova. In fact I'd like to see both Sinead and Heather in one concert .... but not have one billed as an opening act to the other. 2.where would you like to see her play A small venue (as long as I'm lucky enough to be one of those with tickets). Her music (lyrics and music) lends itself to more intimate surroundings. Rock 'n Roll is fine for a stadium ... but thoughtful lyrics and great melodies can best be appreciated in smaller venues ... if only because it's easier to imagine that the artist is singing just for you. 3.if you could spend a day with sinead, what would you do? why? What a question! At one point in time during the day, I'd probably (no ... more like "certainly") argue with her about something .... But I'd like to talk with her, get to know her better, look into her eyes .... talk about this and that ... trivial things ... but also about her outlook on life ... her music ... her sensitivity ... her love. Attend a rehearsal perhaps ... Walk through a park .... sit by a pond .... have a good meal ... watch the sunset ... In fact, just *spend* the day with her and learn more about her. 4.give an approxiamte date of when sinead will release her new album. November '96 - (I would hope much sooner). 5.what would be your ideal set list for the gig? Sheesh .... let's have an all night jam session .... all of her songs .... But my favourites (among her recorded songs) would be (in no particular order): Three babies Troy Famine Haunted I believe You make me feel so free All Apologies Scorn not his simplicity A perfect indian Damn your eyes Troy Fire on Babylon I believe in you House of the rising sun How insensitive Nothing compares 2 u Feel so different Last day of our acquaintance mlalonde@magi.com Michel R. Lalonde From jitr-owner Thu May 2 21:01:05 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id VAA27528 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:01:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from infoweb.magi.com (infoweb.magi.com [198.53.212.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id VAA27523 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magi03p46.magi.com (magi04p08.magi.com [198.53.212.108]) by infoweb.magi.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA27965; Thu, 2 May 1996 23:52:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605030352.XAA27965@infoweb.magi.com> X-Sender: mlalonde@magi.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 23:49:45 -0400 To: Eduard Verheijen From: mlalonde@magi.com (Michel R. Lalonde) Subject: Re: not another, please Cc: jitr@postmodern.com Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Eduard, I don't know for whom your message was intended ... if it was meant for those messages the content of which was restricted to discussing the last Cranberries cd - then you may have a point ... I like the Cranberries and have read those messages ... but they don't really belong to the list when they *only* relate to the Cranberries and how good or bad their last cd is ... there is no real connection to list members or to Sinead. But one message here and there won't kill anyone, nor will it overflow one's mailbox. That being said ... if this was not what you intended, please read on ... The tone of _this_ message may "sound" harsh ... and perhaps it is in a way (I hope not). However, it's not being written with clenched fists or gnashing teeth. Please take it with a grain of salt (if somewhat coarse). It's just that when one tries to silence someone else on this list (like some did with Cecilia) because of some preconceived idea one has about what the list should be all about, then I feel I must speak up. In a way, I am caught in my own logic ... it may seem as if I want to silence you, which I'm not ... You have the right to express your opinion .... and me the right to take exception ... If you don't like what's being written on this list, you always have two other options: delete the messages or quit the list. So, don't be sore, but here goes: >Please, I like reading the sinead jitr. But only when it concerns sinead and >what we think of her. I also like reading the list. More so now ... Sinead _lives_ in this world ... a world of music .... we're fans .... each with our own talents, opinions, background, tastes, feelings, whatever .... Cecilia and all others bring something to the list with their messages, surveys, writings, poetic musings, opinions, etc... We should be grateful for the diversity and the liveliness. What did *your* message bring to the list? Constructive criticism or negativity? >Now we just had what kind of music we like, and now we come to what we all >study or do when we are not behind our pc.screens. So What? Who appointed you listmaster? Maybe it's a question of perception - but to me, the posts were somewhat all related to Sinead. Even asking about the type of music we like - after all, this list may be about Sinead ... but it's also *our* list. We're individuals ... members of a "select" group (even if of our own selection) .... so why not try to expand on what brings us together? I don't know about you, but I'm interested in knowing a bit more about who is out there in cyberspace. It seems somewhat petty to forbid postings on the pretext that it includes names other than "Sinead" or touch on subjects other than Sinead's bootlegs or someone's collection of cds. Letting other members know about one's favorite artists (as an example) is a plus for list members - we get to know a bit more about each other, and, at the same time, we get the opportunity to compare musical styles or, (should we so wish), expand our musical horizons. I'll take this opportunity to plug a favorite artist of mine - Heather Nova - I think that every Sinead O'Connor's fan should give her a listen. Miles Davis, Eric Clapton, Van Morrison and the Cowboy Junkies are some of my other favorites. As long as the focus of the list remains Sinead, everything should be ok. When you sit down at a meal ... it's for the main course ... but you also enjoy a soup or salad, a side dish, a dessert, coffee or tea, or whatever .... So, I don't really mind a couple of messages devoted solely to another artist(s) or to a beautiful poem as long as the main focus of the list remains Sinead ... and the list members. >Shall we do that in privet e-mail instead, please. Way too cumbersome. I don't feel like e-mailing my musings in 250 separate messages all at once (as if I was pretentious enough to believe that all of you are waiting in anticipation for this). I just don't have the technology ... >This way it saves me lots of download-time, lots of reading things i don't >want to read becouse it has nothing to do with sinead. What you don't want to read, you can delete without reading. As for download time, it's negligible ... 10 more messages don't make that much of a difference in download time (we're talking seconds here) ... Speaking of technology, let me add (;-P) that if you're still operating with a 2400 modem ... then tough!!! You should not expect the rest of us to get down to the lowest common denominator. >Yep, the jitr might >be a bit quit then, but so is sinead also at this moment. I won't comment on these last words ... way too easy to make mincemeat out of them .. and I don't feel like dessert right now. Mike. From jitr-owner Thu May 2 22:08:27 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id WAA27769 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:08:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id WAA27764 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [205.149.181.22] (digab.vip.best.com [205.149.181.22]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA06793 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:07:13 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 22:08:13 -0700 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: digab@best.com (Sorina Diaconescu) Subject: Re: What happens to the Postings?!! Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hei there!! I've experienced something really *WEIRD* lately: every time I get my JITR digests in my mailbox, I find out that there have been much MORE messages posted than I have actually received!!!!! What happens to all the other Postings I don't ever get to read directly?!! You Guys are more computer literate than I am *I am a newbie anyway!!* Is there an answer for this?!!! Sorina From jitr-owner Thu May 2 22:24:57 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id WAA27838 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:24:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from bbs.phantasy.com (bbs.phantasy.com [156.46.216.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id WAA27833 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:24:53 -0700 (PDT) From: crisis@bbs.phantasy.com Received: from MHS by bbs.phantasy.com with MHS id AACFDEFH.SMP ; Fri, 3 May 1996 00:38:58 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 00:38:36 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: jitr-digest V2 #98 To: jitr@postmodern.com Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ hello all, in my little daydream, i would have capercaille perform with sinead in my living room , they would most likely perform together, but i would have sinead sing: a perfect indian, red football, black boys on mopeds, i feel so different, theif of your heart, my heart belongs to daddy, troy, just like you said it would be, the house of the rising sun, or whatever she wanted. we would drink tea, and i would paint a portrait of her. i'd play some of my music for her, and maybe get some tips and criticism. i'd bake some of my luscious homemade brownies and feed her. i wouldn't want her to get hungry. i'm sure jake likes them too. has anyone ever written any poetry or prose inspired by sinead? Aja, female american in florida/wisconsin. starving artist who's thinking about getting a job. Crisis@bbs.phantasy.com From jitr-owner Thu May 2 22:50:15 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id WAA27954 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:50:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id WAA27949 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.83.102.62] (smf-g4.facsmf.utexas.edu [128.83.102.62]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA21191 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 00:49:27 -0500 X-Sender: Bonnorc@mail.utexas.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 00:49:29 -0600 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: "Amy O'Brien" (by way of Bonnorc@mail.utexas.edu (Cecilia Bonnor)) Subject: sineadian moments at home in the library Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ don't want any opening act for sinead. want her to sing songs from all albums and some "bside" singles want her to release new record every day. want her to do small venues where she personally invites me and a select few others. if I could do anything with her for a day it would be to just talk about things. I'd like to meet her brother and sister. From jitr-owner Thu May 2 22:51:18 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id WAA27975 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:51:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id WAA27970 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.83.102.62] (smf-g4.facsmf.utexas.edu [128.83.102.62]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA22846 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 00:50:29 -0500 X-Sender: Bonnorc@mail.utexas.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 00:50:31 -0600 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Jani Juvonen (by way of Bonnorc@mail.utexas.edu (Cecilia Bonnor)) Subject: Re: sineadian moments at home in the library Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On Thu, 2 May 1996, Cecilia Bonnor wrote: > i am closeted in the library and can't seem to put mind to book. I think I know the feeling; I've worked in a library... 2 libraries, actually. (Thank all gods I no longer am there!) > 1.who would you like to see open up sinead's >gig?______________________________ Lush or Sleeper. Or both. That would be excellent. > 2.where would you like to see her play (large venue/small venue) >explain_______ Large enough that everyone who want's can be there... but also small venue would be ok, as long as I get a ticket there. :) > 3.if you could spend a day with sinead, what would you do? >why?________________ Well, I suppose we go some place to eat, and maybe drive around country side, kinda sightseeing, if it's a nice day, and talk about whatever seems to be interesting for both of us... and of course I'd try to get her autograph on some albums and stuff... :) And whatever we'd like to do then. I don't like planning things too carefully. Why? I don't know and i don't even want to know. > 4.give an approxiamte date of when sinead will release her new >album.___________ Spring '97. > 5.what would be your ideal set list for the >gig?_______________________________ > (this might get a discussion going...) I don't know... some stuff from all the albums, and also songs that aren't on her albums... Heroine etc you know. I'd be happy with anything really. Well, more guitar based songs than synthesized stuff. > **************************************************************************** > *** > please attach e-mail > address_____bloke@xgw.fi______________________________________________ > your name_______Jani Juvonen_______________________________ > optional: > age__23____________ sex___male________________ marital >status____not____________________ > occupation___vague___nationality_____Finnish______________ > >*************************************************************************** >***** -Jani Juvonen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Start a band, write some shit songs I http://www.xgw.fi/users/bloke/ and people pay you millions of pounds I--------------------------------- for it." - Noel Gallagher, Oasis I http://www.tripod.com/~Bloke/ From jitr-owner Thu May 2 22:53:07 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id WAA28053 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:53:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id WAA28048 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.83.102.62] (smf-g4.facsmf.utexas.edu [128.83.102.62]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA16093 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 00:52:19 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 00:52:21 -0600 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Bonnorc@mail.utexas.edu (Cecilia Bonnor) Subject: Re: sineadian moments at school Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ >hello jitr people (is there anybody in there?), >i am closeted in the library and can't seem to put mind to book. (by the >way, what did all of you think about the sylvia plath poem, and what about >mine? it shows that i'm a starving artist.) please take a bit of time out >from your busy schedules to answer these questions. don't worry, no one >will be flamed and the more and lengthier answers the better. the answers >will be posted at some future date on the list. thank you! >hypothesis: someone recently noted that sinead >would start work on her new album after brigidine (?) got settled. so just >let your imagination wander where you can be as loose as a goose. >1.who would you like to see open up sinead's gig?______________________________ I would probably die soon after it, but I would love to see Bjork open for Sinead. They're both tender and tough and expressive. >2.where would you like to see her play (large venue/small venue) explain_______ Small venue, definitely. I want to sit onstage with her (ok, maybe not that small...but something intimate). >3.if you could spend a day with sinead, what would you do? why?________________ Actually, I had a dream about this...it was like in "Breakfast at Tiffany's" where we spent the whole day doing things we'd neverdone before...and generally getting into trouble. I would want that day to be so completely unique that doing new things would be a perfect way to remember it. >4.give an approxiamte date of when sinead will release her new album.__________ I'm hoping September...but with a new baby and all, probably Nov. >5.what would be your ideal set list for the gig?_______________________________ Anything really, but ideally...it would have to include (not in this order): "Troy"; "Three Babies"; "The last day of our aquaint"; "Scarlett ribbons"; "Fire on Babylon"; "Thank you for hearing me"; "Red football"; "Sacrifice"....I could keep going but I can only dream. >(this might get a discussion going...) >**************************************************************************** >*** >please attach e-mail >address_N222%nemomus@academic.nemostate.edu_______________ >your name_Ann Price____________________________________________________________ >optional: >age_21___________ sex_F_______________marital status__decidedly single ________ >occupation_student of anthropology and world traveller Nationality__American (midwestern) >******************************************************************************* >ps. for those of you who have written me (you know who you are), i am >taking final examinations at the moment, so i won't be writing back until >the weekend. thanks for your patience. > >one love.................bob >marley............................................. >cecilia > > From jitr-owner Thu May 2 23:47:51 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id XAA28209 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 23:47:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from dingo.cc.uq.oz.au (root@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.14]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id XAA28204 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 23:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dingo.cc.uq.oz.au (tpmraymo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP id JAA17430 (8.7.4/IDA-1.6 for ); Fri, 3 May 1996 09:40:06 +1000 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 09:39:57 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Myriam Raymond X-Sender: tpmraymo@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au To: Mailing List JITR Subject: Re: sineadian moments at home in the library In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ > > > hello jitr people (is there anybody in there?), yep, I'm here sometimes > mine? I liked it a lot, you should write books, lots of 'em > 1.who would you like to see open up sinead's gig?______________________________ I really don't know. Somebody, I think, who would contrast and yet compliment her show really well, possibly a male vlcalist or band with probably loud and fast (but of course good!) music would be a real nice way of demonstrating sinead's unique quality of singing. > 2.where would you like to see her play (large venue/small venue) explain_______ oh, yeah, small definately. It would make it harder to get a ticket, but she's not a stadium type act, and that's a good thing. > 3.if you could spend a day with sinead, what would you do? why?________________ someone mentioned watching her work on her new album, and that i would definately like to spend time doing. Also just talking and having fun, and giving her a sightseeing tour of where I live or asking her to give me one if we are at her end of the world. And we would exchange addresses and keep in touch thereafter! > 4.give an approxiamte date of when sinead will release her new album.___________ the day that it comes out. no, really, wouldn't have the foggiest. I'm more interested in what will be on it actually. But maybe in 12 months time (middle of 97). You have to give time for her baby to get settled remember. > 5.what would be your ideal set list for the gig?_______________________________ plenty of songs from her new album plus: 3 babies troy john I love you successs has made a failure of our home you made me the theif of your heart just call me joe i am streatched on your grave sacrifice and.....um.... every other song she ever recorded or wants to sing. it would make a very long concert but I'll bring my thermo of coffee > please attach e-mail > address___________________________________________________ m.raymond@mailbox.uq.edu.au > your name______________________________________________________________________ Myriam Raymond > age______________ 26 sex___________________Female marital status________________________single so far > occupation________________Botanist so far, Writer one day nationality___________________Australian > > > Myriam Raymond CRC for Tropical Pest Management Ph. +61 7 32421863 Level 5 Gehrmann Building M.Raymond@mailbox.uq.edu.au University of Queensland http://www.uq.edu.au/~tpmraymo From jitr-owner Thu May 2 23:57:26 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id XAA28272 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 23:57:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id XAA28267 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 23:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.83.102.62] (smf-g4.facsmf.utexas.edu [128.83.102.62]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA18000 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 01:56:38 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 01:56:40 -0600 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Bonnorc@mail.utexas.edu (Cecilia Bonnor) Subject: Re: sineadian moments at home in the library Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ >hello jitr people (is there anybody in there?), >i am closeted in the library and can't seem to put mind to book. (by the >way, what did all of you think about the sylvia plath poem, and what about >mine? it shows that i'm a starving artist. >yes, you are, cecilia, get on with the dribble, will you?) please take >a bit of time out >from your busy schedules to answer these questions. don't worry, no one >will be flamed and the more and lengthier answers the better. the answers >will be posted at some future date on the list. thank you! >hypothesis: someone recently noted that sinead >would start work on her new album after brigidine (?) got settled. so just >let your imagination wander where you can be as loose as a goose. >1.who would you like to see open up sinead's gig?______________________________ > shane mcgowan would be really great, he's such a rogue and someone good >to hang out and have a drink with. also, bono of u2, by himself, because >he can be tender and vulnerable in the darkness of the conscience and he >also loves sinead. if not, then allen ginsberg could do a little poetry >reading, like howl. > 2.where would you like to see her play (large venue/small venue) explain_______ > sinead would do well to play in a small venue, maybe in room 303 in >parlin hall (ladies and gentlemen that is the english department) here at >the university. if not, we could relocate (and i could be her roadie) to >a...church (???!!!), mm, i wonder if that's possible. the accoustics are >wonderful, though. i would love to hear her at a cemetery, singing troy, >with the candles burning and insence burning. > 3.if you could spend a day with sinead, what would you do? why?________________ i would love for sinead to come to my house in houston because here in austin, my room looks like a dump site (don't want to clean it, either) and, besides, i'd like for those of you can make it to come over to the real fortress and wander round and jam and hang. we'd go for a walk around the neighbourhood...feed the ducks....swim in the lake...burn insense at night, outside, watch the fireflyes...talk about our days in the convent....smoke a cigarette...watch dead poets' society....read william blake and flannery o'connor...then i'd send her to my brother for a medical check-up (sinead was a little emaciated for a time)....introduce her to my parents who love her music (i'm serious, my da buys me tapes when he goes to germany)...write a poem together...drive around the highway-infested city of houston--we'd probably get squashed because i'm a terrible driver...play the guitar...paint our nails jet black...record a song together...walk around the cemetery because it's very peaceful and quiet (that's where i do my best thinking)...and of course, let her shave my head. >4.give an approxiamte date of when sinead will release her new album.___________(this is a trick quesiton, but oh well, i wrote it....i hope that sinead will release her album in november, because that's when another certain irish band will release theirs, so this will be a lovely christmas.) >5.what would be your ideal set list for the gig?_______________________________ >(this might get a discussion going...) she can play whatever she likes, >but i hope she does irish arrangements because they speak to me so deeply. >**************************************************************************** >*** >please attach e-mail >address__Bonnorc@mail.utexas.edu___________________________________________ >______ >your name__cecilia bonnor_____(also known as frog, by the wee green >people)_______________________________________________________________ >optional: >age___21 (but more like 40)___________ sex___female__and >happy______________ marital status__single and loveless and will probably >never marry (i don't know why, i've been in the library too long and would >probably be a bore with my husband._)_____________________ >occupation_student, but soon-to-be ejected from the university (sigh) >because i've been around here too long,_poet, daughter, sister, punk, >computer maniac, your chatterbox neighbour and e-mail associate, wanna-be >psychologist, wanna-be musician, hooligan, wanna-be human and >real_____________nationality__american (that's interesting, yes, really), >argentine, scottish, spanish, marsian_(oops, never mind) >austinite.________________ man, you are all first rate sineadian fans. sinead would love this. we should do something for her birthday and now, back to my examinations..................dirty nappies, usual lateness, morning grumpiness, love in the computer lab and sinead in the tape-deck everywhere. shalom, cecilia From jitr-owner Fri May 3 05:11:33 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id FAA00709 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 05:11:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from goggins.uio.no (goggins.uio.no [129.240.201.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id FAA00704 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 05:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ulrik.uio.no by goggins.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <29626-0@goggins.uio.no>; Fri, 3 May 1996 14:10:34 +0200 Received: from pchfstud25 by hedda.uio.no ; Fri, 3 May 1996 14:10:30 +0200 Message-Id: <199605031210.OAA24439@hedda.uio.no> X-Sender: anners@hedda.uio.no X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 14:08:08 +0100 To: jitr@postmodern.com, jitr-digest@server.postmodern.com From: Anne Ross Solberg Subject: Re: jitr-digest V2 #97 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ My answers to Cecilias questions: 1.who would you like to see open up sinead's gig? -Peter Gabriel. Sinead would come in and they would perform "Blood of Eden". >2.where would you like to see her play (large venue/small venue) explain -As long as the people in the audience would be die-hard fans, it wouldnt really matter. >3.if you could spend a day with sinead, what would you do? why? -First of all, If I was to meet her I would probably have to be drugged on really strong anti-anxitiy drugs! I would be a heap of jelly... But of course this is highly hypothetically so that doesnt really matter... I would just want to hang out with her; talk to her and get to know her a bit. She would teach me Irish, we would discuss religion, the State of the World, politics and psychology, and I would probably say something that would piss her off... and then we would share a bottle of wine, I would play guitar and she would sing... I would also like to meet her son, and the people she`s usually around... Actually,I would probably be satisfied just looking at her, being around her... (and keeping my thoughts to myself... She is soooo BEAUTIFUL! ;-)...) >4.give an approxiamte date of when sinead will release her new album. -The sooner the better! >5.what would be your ideal set list for the gig? -Troy, three babies, nothing compares 2 U, thank you for hearing me, last day of our aquaintance.Famine, Fire on Babylon, Emperors new clothes. Something fom each album, + damn your eyes, my special child,value of ignirance, what do you want, dont give up in duet with Peter Gabriel, I believe in you, Heroine, +++++ A loooong concert.... >**************************************************************************** >*** >please attach e-mail >address your name: Anne Ross Solberg >optional: >age______22________ sex__female___ marital status: "young, free and single".... >occupation: Student of psychology and religion ________nationality: Norwegian___________________ >*************************************************************************** ***** > ################################################ ------------------------------------------------ "God is good. WE`RE the ones who have fucked it up. God is probably sitting up there biting his nails, he`s probably smoking a joint and thinking "Shit, what am I supposed to do now?" ------------------------------------------------ ...............Sinead O`Connor.................. ################################################ From jitr-owner Fri May 3 08:38:58 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id IAA01431 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 08:38:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from ibmmail.COM (ibmmail.com [199.171.26.3]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id IAA01426 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 08:38:50 -0700 (PDT) From: usboialg@ibmmail.com Message-Id: <199605031538.IAA01426@server.postmodern.com> Received: from ibmmail by ibmmail.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 7402; Fri, 03 May 96 11:37:06 EDT Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 11:37:55 EDT To: jitr@postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Survey Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ TO: IBMMAIL.INTERNET COPIES: FROM: USBOIALG AL.GROTE PAPERRAD PHONE:(503)-286-7458 SUBJECT: Survey Cecilia's survey Actually a very small venue with a select few, assuming I am one. I would like her to be joined by a few other not so popular female Irish entertainers that I have had the pleasure to meet. Like Triona NiDhomhnaill and her sister Maighread, point of interest, Maighread is one the singers that is performing on the new callaboration of various artist including Sinead, they were in the studio last week in Ireland and Maighread got a chance to talk with Sinead. She said Sinead was very nice and down to earth, she was surprised how tiny Sinead is. They had a good chat with one another which I would rather not go into on internet. Triona who sings with Nightnoise {brother,cousin and friend from Scotland) make up the band. Nightnoise has been calling Portland Oregon there home for many years now, but now thier moveing back home to Ireland, that is except Johnny from Scotland, he's living in Boston and most likely will remain there. Triona has a very sweet voice and groups music is made up mostley Irish ballets some reels and a lot of flute, mostly nice soft lay-back Irish music. They have 5 Albums out now and thier working on a new one. They sing for Windum Hills Records. Maighread is coming out to Portland to her sister with the move. Maybe they will perform together why shes here. What I would do if I had the opportunity to spend some time with Sinead would be easy? It would be spent with me showing my Artistic Photography of her and how I do them, we would undoudly spend some time in the dark room since that were my creations come to life, this probably would embarrass the hell out of her, but she would get the opportunity to see how much her and her music has made and impact on me. Oh; bye the way, I would ask her to help me pick out which Photographs would be best for and exhibit. Al usboialg@ibmmail.com (age-58, Research Associate, sex-no, in between. ******************************** DISTRIBUTION ************************* IBMMAIL INTERNET BCISOFFS From jitr-owner Fri May 3 12:35:29 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id MAA03132 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 12:35:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from axp.lpl.lib.ky.us (AXP.LPL.LIB.KY.US [206.203.54.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id MAA03127 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 12:35:25 -0700 (PDT) From: AMY@axp.lpl.lib.ky.us Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 15:35:31 -0400 (EDT) To: JITR@POSTMODERN.COM Message-Id: <960503153531.2fe4b@axp.lpl.lib.ky.us> Subject: Favorite word of the day: pithy Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello all. I hope everyone is doing well and that the day is as beautiful whereyou live as it is here (Lexington, Ky in the USA). I would like to commend Mike/Michael (which do you prefer?) on his explaination for the personalization of this list. It was very eloquently written. I hope no one thinks that the two sides that have apparently sprung up on this debate are mutually exclusive. Of course everyone on this list wants to talk about Sinead, her music, what people have in their collection to trade or sell, etc. I also think this debate is starting to get a little redundant, so I hope we can consider it resolved to everyone's satisfaction and move on. :) Did someone ask for the Gaelic words to "What do you want"? Wasn't that already posted? I could be hallucinationg, so don't mind me. Ooops, gotta go. Amy From jitr-owner Fri May 3 12:52:41 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id MAA03458 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 12:52:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from dub-img-7.compuserve.com (dub-img-7.compuserve.com [198.4.9.8]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id MAA03446 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 12:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dub-img-7.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id PAA18159; Fri, 3 May 1996 15:50:38 -0400 Date: 03 May 96 15:47:56 EDT From: Meghan Chandler <101517.647@CompuServe.COM> To: Cecilia Bonnor Cc: "\"'Jump In The River'\"" Subject: Re: sineadian moments at home in the library Message-ID: <960503194756_101517.647_IHK137-1@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-jitr@SERVER.POSTMODERN.COM Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ 1) Who would I like to see open Sinead's gig? Hhmmm... well only because I like them: these three ladys Dillie Keane, Adele Anderson and Issy van Randwick (-who's on the Gershwin album, two songs after Sinead) who are, in my opinion, very funny... look out for their CD if you happpen to have some extra cash floating about... quick plug: "Fascinating Aida" Or maybe me. 2) I think a small venue would be nice... more intimate 3) If the bombing would stop first I'd take her to London.... climb the lions in Trafalgar Square, and feed the pigeons, walk to Picadilly Circus, buy Dunkin' Donuts and eat them later that night on the beach some where (... not in England....) probably the Maldives. Just imagine... eating donuts to get the feel let's say "Vanilla Kreme", lying on the pale white sand of a desert island, the warm water washing over your legs, above you the stars, and a full moon shining on the water... As soon I got of my intial shock, I'd just talk to her about "stuff"... life. 4)Late '96 maybe into '97... I hope sooner though 5) Some new stuff Troy Just like you said it would be Fire on Babylon John I love you In this heart Black Coffee My man's gone now Compuserve, 101517,647 Meghan Chandler 17 F Single Student American Sorry it's long-ish Meghan From jitr-owner Fri May 3 13:19:59 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id NAA03593 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 13:19:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from ping.at (pong.ping.at [193.81.13.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id NAA03585 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 13:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from site51.ping.at by ping.at with UUCP id AA14600 (5.67b8/ping for JITR@postmodern.com); Fri, 3 May 1996 22:19:05 +0200 Received: by site51.ping.at (CrossPoint v3.11); 03 May 1996 22:17:02 +0100 Date: 03 May 1996 22:16:00 +0100 From: szendrey@site51.ping.at (Roman Szendrey) To: JITR@postmodern.com Message-Id: <688bQfRDe6B@site51.ping.at> References: <960503153531.2fe4b@axp.lpl.lib.ky.us> Subject: Re: Favorite word of the day: pithy X-Mailer: CrossPoint v3.11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello Amy, 03.05.96 / 15:35: You wrote in /Mailinglisten/JITR about "Favorite word of the day: pithy": > Did someone ask for the Gaelic words to "What do you want"? Wasn't that > already posted? I could be hallucinationg, so don't mind me. it was the english translation but not the orignial gaelic lyrics. well, marcel (who aked for it) and 99% of the list (incl. me) wouldn't understand a single word but we'd like to have it. ;-) ok! don't hit me, marcel. i know it's for the lyrics-page. ;-)) slán leat (as the irish say) roman ---------------------------------------------------- roman szendrey (szendrey@site51.ping.at) fidonet: 2:310/25.50 compuserve: 100347,612 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/szendrey/ vienna / austria ---------------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## From jitr-owner Fri May 3 14:02:21 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id OAA04038 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 14:02:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id OAA04006 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 14:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.83.102.68] (smf-g10.facsmf.utexas.edu [128.83.102.68]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA20429 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 15:59:26 -0500 X-Sender: Bonnorc@mail.utexas.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 15:59:30 -0600 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Meghan Chandler <101517.647@CompuServe.COM> (by way of Bonnorc@mail.utexas.edu (Cecilia Bonnor)) Subject: Re: sineadian moments at home in the library Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ 1) Who would I like to see open Sinead's gig? Hhmmm... well only because I like them: these three ladys Dillie Keane, Adele Anderson and Issy van Randwick (-who's on the Gershwin album, two songs after Sinead) who are, in my opinion, very funny... look out for their CD if you happpen to have some extra cash floating about... quick plug: "Fascinating Aida" Or maybe me. 2) I think a small venue would be nice... more intimate 3) If the bombing would stop first I'd take her to London.... climb the lions in Trafalgar Square, and feed the pigeons, walk to Picadilly Circus, buy Dunkin' Donuts and eat them later that night on the beach some where (... not in England....) probably the Maldives. Just imagine... eating donuts to get the feel let's say "Vanilla Kreme", lying on the pale white sand of a desert island, the warm water washing over your legs, above you the stars, and a full moon shining on the water... As soon I got of my intial shock, I'd just talk to her about "stuff"... life. 4)Late '96 maybe into '97... I hope sooner though 5) Some new stuff Troy Just like you said it would be Fire on Babylon John I love you In this heart Black Coffee My man's gone now Compuserve, 101517,647 Meghan Chandler 17 F Single Student American Sorry it's long-ish Meghan From jitr-owner Fri May 3 18:57:54 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) id SAA05194 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 18:57:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-jitr using -f Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.7.4/mcb-960422) with SMTP id SAA05187 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 18:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.83.101.23] (smf-a13.facsmf.utexas.edu [128.83.101.23]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA05663 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 20:57:01 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 20:57:00 -0600 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Bonnorc@mail.utexas.edu (Cecilia Bonnor) Subject: for joseph (an excerpt from my book about sineadian experiences) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ a free man [and woman] thinks of nothing less than death, and his [her] wisdom is a meditation, not of death, but of life.-espinoza, from ethics. 16-17 march,1994... apart from guinnes, i had my blood, so i didn't quite notice the warped look on my friend's visage. we sat down on the pavement holding hands, and feeling the heat and tremor of the coming trains below us. i smelt the gasoline and vapors from the shaft of the underground. joseph made a comment about how glad he was to be there again, for we'd met at the train station some time out of mind. quiet ensued. i had a song in my mind, as usual, and loved the way we were still. or maybe, i was in a phantasy about tomorrow, which was st.patrick's day and we were going to celebrate. soon the amtrak train. something wasn't right. we sat in the back,looking at the sun setting and absorbing the heat of the train. i leaned my head aginst the cold cold glass and felt my teeth clattering as the train pulled away. it's difficult to say what happened awhile later but joseph went into convulsions. he shook. i pulled. he bent down and struggled with the suitcase. oh, fuck, get me the syringe....because if i don't have my medicine, i'm going to die, do you understand?-he whisepred. i looked into his eyes, which were half-gaulged out. i knew he was on antidepressants.o.k.-i reassured him, not here, let's go to the toilet.-he couldn't move. he said he felt numb. i wanted to disapppear. i wasn't there and neither was he, but some passengers turned to look at all the muted noise. murmurs. once in the bathroom, he demanded me to prepare the vial. jesus was a good man and this wasn't happening. i'm not going to have any part in this.-i protested,we'll call your doctor when we get to the station.-he thrw a temper tantrum,fuck you, you're killing me, if you know what's right, because you know i'm right and you're wrong, then you'll do what i tell you.-suddenly i felt a flash of death near me, i bowed my head and complied. this was the matrimonial defeat. come on, share my pain, babe and you will be alive again. i wanted to hit him and put him up against the wall and tell him what a bag of shit he was and how much i loved him. instead, i whispered into his ear to shut the fuck up and everything, yes everything would be alright. he was very cold, i was feeling quite unlike myself. i think this was the first time i'd felt utterly monstrous. we watched the clear vial plunge into his protuding vein and then he stuttered but i quickly put my nervous hand over his crooked mouth. he laughed and cried a little and whispered da.-i said shit because i'd never seen anybody die before. but there is always a first time for everything, even death. joseph fell asleep in my arms and even though we were so close together, i shivered. he was calm and peaceful, sailing to the aran islands. his eyes were clamped shut and his lips slightly ajar, purple like advent and evenly voluptuous. i was too disturbed to think, so taut and anxious. now i didn't feel quite the same for him or for myself. our world became myopic and we were distant and felt suddenly exiled from the garden of eden. so this is what one got for courting death. now i comfortted joseph in a different way, as though he were the son i would never have because one of us would have to die sooner or later. you see, i had loved him so unevenly, brushing him away when i had my mdanes to fall back on, but then running back into his arms like a child when i could breathe energy into our relationship. one of us would now get off at the train station for good. the train station of love and life and lust and companionship. joseph stirred. i remembered how we used to play like children in the pouring rain and the first time we held hands and stayed up all night listening to t.s.eliott reading the wasteland or the little chicken song. this was a sword in my back. why couldn't it just be like this forever, travelling on the train to nowhere together, but at least having each other? for a moment i forgot myself and the situation and drew the poison from his warm lips...i tried to smile, tried but i couldn't. colour returned to joseph's face and everything receded into a corner forever...i felt silent and internally quiet but i wanted to yell, because something was tearing me apart. no, something was invading our commitment to each other. we were through with each other. in silence, we arrived at the cheap hotel quite late that night. i had to remind joseph to take his thorazine, otherwise this could have been a very, very sleepless night. we would have ended up on the floor hitting each other and then crying and making up. i would cry and he would weep. he claimed that men didn't cry, i decidedly avoided the topic all-togther. i just wanted to crash but joseph wnated to say something, while. i helped him undress, mother...(pause)...died whilst....giving birth to me...-i