From jitr-owner Fri Feb 2 14:34:25 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id OAA04607 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:34:25 -0800 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.7.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id OAA04602 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:34:15 -0800 Received: from bobbink (Nij44.pi.net [145.220.200.44]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id XAA24898; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 23:32:49 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4b11.32.19960202223306.00704900@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b11 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 23:33:06 +0100 To: Sinead Mailing List , Stefan Lundell From: Mars-L Subject: Ave Maria Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Could you please look at these lyrics ? I'm sure the Latin part is okay, but I can't understand the english spoken parts 100%. Ave Maria =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Ave Maria,=20 Gr=E1tia plena, dominus tecum benedicta tu in muli=E9ribus, et bened=EDctus=20 fructus ventris tui Jesus Sancta Maria, Sancta Maria, Maria ora pro nobis, nobis peccat=F3ribus,=20 nunc et in hora, hora mortis nostrae Amen. I have an invitation for you. Is there a celebration? No, I'm not inviting you to a celebration. I'm inviting you to a .......... God is inside of us The devil is outside us in the world all around us pick up an axe .....the devils throught we'll fight him whatever he is The sick and the rich........ Now lady, if you have sheep, give them away if you have a family, leave them Amen -------------------------------------------- Transcribed by Marcel Bobbink send corrections to: bobbink@pi.net -------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTHING COMPARES 2 THEM =20 visit the Mars-L Sinead/Prince Homepage http://www.pi.net/~bobbink ------------------------------------------------------------------ From jitr-owner Sat Feb 3 09:07:35 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id JAA08342 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 09:07:35 -0800 Received: from shani.net (shani.co.il [192.115.25.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id JAA08337 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 09:07:29 -0800 Received: from teleport31.shani.co.il by shani.net (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA38620; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:01:45 +0200 Message-Id: <9602031701.AA38620@shani.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:05:09 +0200 To: Sinead Mailing List From: benel1@shani.net (Isaac) Subject: sinead's new album Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ hi all,just wanted to find out if anybody has any idea when sinead's new album is coming out. From jitr-owner Sat Feb 3 10:11:42 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id KAA08427 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 10:11:42 -0800 Received: from shani.net (shani.co.il [192.115.25.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id KAA08422 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 10:11:32 -0800 Received: from teleport19.shani.co.il by shani.net (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA32926; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 20:05:44 +0200 Message-Id: <9602031805.AA32926@shani.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 20:09:10 +0200 To: Sinead Mailing List From: benel1@shani.net (Isaac) Subject: name Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ just wanted to say that my name is dana,not isaac that's all,bye. From jitr-owner Sat Feb 3 11:09:07 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id LAA08514 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 11:09:07 -0800 Received: from shani.net (shani.co.il [192.115.25.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id LAA08509 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 11:09:01 -0800 Received: from teleport19.shani.co.il by shani.net (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA39834; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 21:03:09 +0200 Message-Id: <9602031903.AA39834@shani.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 21:06:35 +0200 To: JITR From: benel1@shani.net (Isaac) Subject: re:sinead o'connor collection for sale Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ how is the sale going to work can you give more details? From jitr-owner Sun Feb 4 12:24:13 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id MAA12798 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 12:24:13 -0800 Received: from bbs.phantasy.com (bbs.phantasy.com [156.46.216.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id MAA12793 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 12:24:07 -0800 From: crisis@bbs.phantasy.com Received: from MHS by bbs.phantasy.com with MHS id AOCKCCFN.SMP ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 14:43:46 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 14:43:00 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: jitr-digest V2 #27 To: jitr@postmodern.com Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ hi, i'm looking for the troy 12" does anyone have a cpy for sale? also, what is this sinead collection for sale? whoever is selling , please email me with a list, and i'lll definatley buy from you! crisis@bbs.phantasy.com thank you. From jitr-owner Mon Feb 5 01:31:45 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id BAA14571 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 01:31:45 -0800 Received: from lulu.acns.nwu.edu (daemon@lulu.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.54]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id BAA14566 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 01:31:42 -0800 Received: from aragorn235.nuts.nwu.edu by lulu.acns.nwu.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.16/20.3) id AA171612629; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 03:30:29 -0600 Message-Id: <199602050930.AA171612629@lulu.acns.nwu.edu> X-Sender: jnt207@lulu.acns.nwu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 03:42:19 -0600 To: jitr@server.postmodern.com From: jnt207@lulu.acns.nwu.edu (Ju Nguan Tan) Subject: For Sinead Completists Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi guys, I don't know if this has been posted, but Sinead appears on Abdel Ali Slimani's album "Mraya" (she sings rather audible backing vocals in Arabic on the title track). I only have a tape of it, but for those who are interested in looking for the CD I think the catalog number is REAL WORLD CDRW 55 (UK). :) Best, Ju From jitr-owner Mon Feb 5 04:06:21 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id EAA16387 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 04:06:21 -0800 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.7.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id EAA16382 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 04:06:17 -0800 Received: from bobbink (Nij24.pi.net [145.220.200.24]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA10685 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 13:05:27 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4b11.32.19960205120353.0073872c@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b11 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 13:03:53 +0100 To: Sinead Mailing List From: Mars-L Subject: Ave Maria Complete Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Here is the complete Ave Maria ! (I think :-)) Ave Maria =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Ave Maria,=20 Gr=E1tia plena, dominus tecum benedicta tu in muli=E9ribus, et bened=EDctus=20 fructus ventris tui Jesus Sancta Maria, Sancta Maria, Maria ora pro nobis, nobis peccat=F3ribus,=20 nunc et in hora, hora mortis nostrae Amen. I have an invitation for you. Is there a celebration? No, I'm not inviting you to a celebration. I'm inviting you to a war God is inside of us The devil is outside us in the world all around us you pick up an axe and cut the devils throat we'll fight him wherever he is In the sick, in the rich, even in the temple I'll lead you, if you have sheep, give them away if you have a family, leave them Amen ----------------------------------------------- Transcribed by Marcel Bobbink with help from members of the JITR-mailing list send corrections to: bobbink@pi.net ----------------------------------------------- A transcription of the Latin part would be something like; Sorry for the mis-use of some words, I translated the dutch words almost litterly. :-) Be blessed Maria, full of mercy, the lord is with you. You are the blessed of the women, and blessed is Jesus, the fruit of your lap. Holy Maria, mother of God, pray for us, sinners, now and in the hour of our death. Amen. ------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTHING COMPARES 2 THEM =20 visit the Mars-L Sinead/Prince Homepage http://www.pi.net/~bobbink ------------------------------------------------------------------ From jitr-owner Mon Feb 5 10:53:32 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id KAA17275 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 10:53:32 -0800 Received: from goggins.uio.no (6089@goggins.uio.no [129.240.201.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id KAA17270 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 10:53:29 -0800 Received: from ulrik.uio.no by goggins.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <17235-0@goggins.uio.no>; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 19:52:24 +0100 Received: from hedda by hedda.uio.no ; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 19:52:23 +0100 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 19:52:23 +0100 (MET) From: anne ross X-Sender: anners@hedda To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: jitr-digest V2 #26 In-Reply-To: <199602030900.BAA05778@server.postmodern.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ > > From: Mars-L > Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 23:33:06 +0100 > Subject: Ave Maria > > Hello, > > Could you please look at these lyrics ? > I'm sure the Latin part is okay, but I can't understand the > english spoken parts 100%. > Ive filled in the way I think it should be (in the spoken part): > Ave Maria > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > Ave Maria,=20 > Gratia plena, > dominus tecum > benedicta tu in mulieribus, > et benedictus > fructus ventris tui Jesus > Sancta Maria, Sancta Maria, Maria (in the original:Mater dei) > ora pro nobis, nobis peccatoribus > nunc et in hora, hora mortis nostrae > Amen. (Translated into English: Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou amongst women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the time of our death, Amen.) The spoken part: > I have an invitation for you. > Is there a celebration? > No, I'm not inviting you to a celebration. > I'm inviting you to a war > > God is inside of us > The devil is outside us > in the world all around us > but pick up an axe > and cut the devils throat > we'll fight him wherever he is > In the sick, in the rich, even in the temple > Ill lead you; if you have sheep, give them away > if you have a family, leave them > > Amen > From jitr-owner Tue Feb 6 07:41:05 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id HAA21583 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 07:41:05 -0800 Received: from kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (SYSTEM@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu [129.237.32.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id HAA21578 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 07:41:00 -0800 Received: from washington.engr.ukans.edu by KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU (PMDF V5.0-5 #13311) id <01I0VZV3DLDS8X2YZD@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU> for jitr@server.postmodern.com; Tue, 06 Feb 1996 09:40:04 -0600 (CST) Received: by washington.engr.ukans.edu (4.1/KU-1.6s) id AA02206; Tue, 06 Feb 1996 09:30:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 09:30:07 -0600 (CST) From: Highlander Subject: New Pics! X-Sender: jrussell@washington To: jump in the river archives Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ hi! I finally got a little time to scan in some pictures from the 1991 and 1992 issues of Rolling Stone that featured sinead. The best picture is the 1992 cover... feel free to check them out! I'll hopefully have the rest scanned in soon, and i might either scan or transcribe the interviews... unless someone has them already done. Let me know what you think and if you have any suggestions! Thanks! jrussell http://www.engr.ukans.edu/~jrussell/music/sinead/sinead.html From jitr-owner Tue Feb 6 16:20:44 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id QAA22920 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 16:20:44 -0800 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.7.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id QAA22915 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 16:20:40 -0800 Received: from bobbink (Nij33.pi.net [145.220.200.33]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id XAA16239 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 23:16:11 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4b11.32.19960206221450.0071c0a8@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.pi.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b11 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 23:14:50 +0100 To: Sinead Mailing List From: Mars-L Subject: Karen Finley Lyrics (18 & OVER !!!) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Stefan and I worked quite some days on Karen Finley's lyrics in Jump In The River, but we still have some open places. But because the USA is probably gonna censor the NET :-)) I thought now's the time to ask you to help us before we can't place these dirty words on the Internet anymore. So please help ! **** PARENTAL WARNING JUST FOR USA CITIZEN; ******* These lyrics may contain language that some people may find offensive **** PARENTAL WARNING JUST FOR USA CITIZEN; ******* Jump In The River (Karen Finley's lyrics) =============== Brother, do you have a prick? Yes, I do I just like ghost (goes?) do (?????) Brother, do you have a prick? Yes, I do I just like ghost (goes?) do (??) After my mother washed me Powdered me I insisted that she'd masturbate me You wonder why I've got panic attacks You dream you eat me through my silken panties <----- You dream you ate (hate?) me through... But baby you've got it wrong I don't smile when I come out ! Jump start me Jump start me Jump, jump, jump, jump Ain't got a leg, but I got a stop <--- (what do you think?) Ain't got dick baby, but I got a pup <---(??) Ain't got a tee (????), but I got all up <---(?) Never knew how to walk So I gotta jump Jump start me Jump start me Jump in my heart Jump from the start Well, he loves to wear silk not a scarf around his neck, baby Finger them, finger the scarves he twist the scarf around my neck, baby I wish he was twisting it around my clit I mean my dick I mean my cock Baby, twist it Twist it good Twist that silky scarf Well you sell those ties at Madison Avenue Work me Work me good And you perform that magic trick good By taking that silk tie Oiled N.... it (?) Pull it out of my asshole Let me come Let me come ------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTHING COMPARES 2 THEM visit the Mars-L Sinead/Prince Homepage http://www.pi.net/~bobbink ------------------------------------------------------------------ From jitr-owner Tue Feb 6 16:50:36 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id QAA22967 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 16:50:36 -0800 Received: from netcom17.netcom.com (slf@netcom17.netcom.com [192.100.81.130]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id QAA22962 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 16:50:33 -0800 Received: by netcom17.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA00772; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 16:48:51 -0800 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 16:48:51 -0800 From: slf@netcom.com (Sharon Fisher) Message-Id: <199602070048.QAA00772@netcom17.netcom.com> To: bobbink@pi.net CC: jitr@server.postmodern.com In-reply-to: <1.5.4b11.32.19960206221450.0071c0a8@pop.pi.net> (message from Mars-L on Tue, 06 Feb 1996 23:14:50 +0100) Subject: Re: Karen Finley Lyrics (18 & OVER !!!) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Jump In The River (Karen Finley's lyrics) =============== Brother, do you have a prick? I thought it was "Mother," actually. Yes, I do I just like ghost (goes?) do (?????) I thought it was 'cows.' Brother, do you have a prick? Yes, I do I just like ghost (goes?) do (??) After my mother washed me Powdered me I insisted that she'd masturbate me You wonder why I've got panic attacks You dream you eat me through my silken panties <----- You dream you ate (hate?) me through... Ate, I thought. But baby you've got it wrong I don't smile when I come out ! It's just "come," isn't it? Jump start me Jump start me Jump, jump, jump, jump Ain't got a leg, but I got a stop <--- (what do you think?) Stump, I thought. Ain't got dick baby, but I got a pup <---(??) Pump, I thought. Ain't got a tee (????), but I got all up <---(?) I thought it was 'titty' and 'lump,' respectively. Never knew how to walk So I gotta jump Jump start me Jump start me Jump in my heart Jump from the start Well, he loves to wear silk not a scarf around his neck, baby I think it's 'knot,' actually. Finger them, finger the scarves he twist the scarf around my neck, baby I wish he was twisting it around my clit I mean my dick I mean my cock Baby, twist it Twist it good Twist that silky scarf Well you sell those ties at Madison Avenue Work me Work me good And you perform that magic trick good By taking that silk tie Oiled N.... it (?) Knotted? Pull it out of my asshole Let me come Let me come ................................................................. slf@netcom.com Walking with the spirit Talking with the spine Open up your self when worlds align. ............................................................. From jitr-owner Wed Feb 7 03:14:18 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id DAA25661 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 03:14:18 -0800 Received: from luggage.tecc.co.uk (mmdf@luggage.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.129]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id DAA25656 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 03:14:14 -0800 Received: from sat.tecc.co.uk by luggage.tecc.co.uk id aa07072; 7 Feb 96 11:02 GMT Received: by sat.tecc.co.uk (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA04071; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 11:01:26 GMT Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 11:01:26 GMT From: Matthias Radestock Message-Id: <9602071101.AA04071@sat.tecc.co.uk> To: Ju Nguan Tan Cc: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: For Sinead Completists In-Reply-To: <199602050930.AA171612629@lulu.acns.nwu.edu> References: <199602050930.AA171612629@lulu.acns.nwu.edu> Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ >>>>> "Ju" == Ju Nguan Tan writes: Ju> Hi guys, I don't know if this has been posted, but Sinead appears Ju> on Abdel Ali Slimani's album "Mraya" (she sings rather audible Ju> backing vocals in Arabic on the title track). I only have a tape Ju> of it, but for those who are interested in looking for the CD I Ju> think the catalog number is REAL WORLD CDRW 55 (UK). :) ...and it's a great track and a great album! Jah Wobble (who collaborated with Sinead in the past) plays Bass. Abdel appeared on his "Take me to God" album. John Reynolds (Sinead's ex-husband) plays drums and some of the mixing was done in his studio. Natacha Atlas (great voice! she also appeared on "Take me to God") sings backing vocals on some other tracks. Her debut album is on release this week. Mraya reminds me a bit of the 13min remix of "Fire on Babylon" - it's a very similar arrangement. I'm also pretty sure that it is Abdel who is singing the Arabic vocals on "Fire on Babylon". Matthias From jitr-owner Wed Feb 7 03:59:12 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id DAA25741 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 03:59:12 -0800 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.7.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id DAA25736 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 03:59:08 -0800 Received: from bobbink (Nij35.pi.net [145.220.200.35]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id MAA14558 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:58:18 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4b11.32.19960207115638.00727078@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b11 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 12:56:38 +0100 To: Sinead Mailing List From: Mars-L Subject: Karen Finley AND contacting Sinead Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Firstly I wanna thank every one who mailed me about Karen Finley for their help !! Please keep going on ! This is what I've made with your help, please check it again! Jump In The River (Karen Finley's lyrics) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Brother, do you have a prick? Yes I do, just like cows do Brother, do you have a prick? Yes I do, just like cows do After my mother washed me Powdered me I insisted that she'd masturbate me You wonder why I've got panic attacks You dream you ate me through my silken panties But baby you've got it wrong I don't smile when I cum Jump start me Jump start me Jump, jump, jump, jump Ain't got a leg, but I got a stomp Ain't got a dick baby, but I got a pump Ain't got a titty, but I got lump Never knew how to walk So I gotta jump Jump start me Jump start me Jump in my heart Jump from the start Well, he loves to wear silk knot a scarf around his neck, baby Finger them, finger the scarves he twist the scarf around my neck, baby I wish he was twisting it around my clit I mean my dick I mean my cock Baby, twist it Twist it good Twist that silky scarf Well you sell those ties at Madison Avenue Work me Work me good And you perform that magic trick good By taking that silk tie Oiled=20 Knotted Pull it out of my asshole Let me cum Let me cum ------------------------------------- transcribed by Stefan Lundell send corrections to; T91_LUN@t.kth.se or; bobbink@pi.net ------------------------------------- JRussel wrote this address to use to contact Sinead; Ms. Sin=E9ad O'Connor c/o Ensign Records/Chrysalis Records EMI Records 1290 Avenue of The Americas New York, New York 10104 But if you look at all her cd's, there's always another adress.... For example if you look at her latest single (Famine) there is written; Chrysalis Records Ltd, 131 / 133 Holland Park Avenue,=20 London W11 4UT But if you look to Am I not Your Girl? it is; Ensign Records Ltd. 3 Monmouth place=20 London W2 5SH And if you look at The Lion And The Cobra it is; Ensign Records Ltd. 12 Strattford Place London W1N 9AF And if you look at Fire On Babylon it is; Chrysalis Records 13 Bramley Road, London W10 6SP And there are some more........ So which one is the right one....:-) ------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTHING COMPARES 2 THEM =20 visit the Mars-L Sinead/Prince Homepage http://www.pi.net/~bobbink ------------------------------------------------------------------ From jitr-owner Wed Feb 7 06:41:18 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id GAA26028 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 06:41:18 -0800 Received: from luggage.tecc.co.uk (mmdf@luggage.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.129]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id GAA26023 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 06:41:15 -0800 Received: from sat.tecc.co.uk by luggage.tecc.co.uk id aa08142; 7 Feb 96 14:32 GMT Received: by sat.tecc.co.uk (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA04361; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 14:31:27 GMT Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 14:31:27 GMT From: Matthias Radestock Message-Id: <9602071431.AA04361@sat.tecc.co.uk> To: Mars-L Cc: Sinead Mailing List Subject: Karen Finley AND contacting Sinead In-Reply-To: <1.5.4b11.32.19960207115638.00727078@pop.pi.net> References: <1.5.4b11.32.19960207115638.00727078@pop.pi.net> Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ >>>>> "Mars-L" == Mars-L writes: Mars-L> JRussel wrote this address to use to contact Sinead; Mars-L> But if you look at all her cd's, there's always another Mars-L> adress.... Mars-L> So which one is the right one....:-) That's because Chrysalis and Ensign move office about once every year. I think they may also have several offices. Your best bet is to call directory enquiries, get their phone #, ring them and then ask them were they currently are. As far as I know all the mail eventually ends up with Sinead's management, which is Pure Management (if it still is). They have a similarly impressive track record to Chrysalis and Ensign when it comes to moving office, so please don't ask me where they currently are :-) Matthias From jitr-owner Wed Feb 7 14:49:25 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id OAA27229 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 14:49:25 -0800 Received: from dune.artic.edu (dune.artic.edu [198.40.25.4]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id OAA27224 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 14:49:21 -0800 Received: from [198.40.25.103] (sap3.artic.edu [198.40.25.103]) by dune.artic.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA00177 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:48:58 -0600 X-Sender: cchris@dune.artic.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:49:33 -0600 To: jitr@server.postmodern.com From: cchris@artic.edu (Charles Christensen) Subject: Karen Finley corrections (For "Mature" audiences) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ >Jump In The River >(Karen Finley's lyrics) >=============== A few corrections... >Brother, do you have a prick? >Yes, I do I just like ghost (goes?) do (?????) Mother, do you have a prick? Yes I do, just like cows do. >You dream you eat me through my silken panties <----- You dream you ate >(hate?) me through... You dreamed you ate me through my silken panties >But baby you've got it wrong >I don't smile when I come out ! I don't smile when I "cum" >Ain't got a leg, but I got a stop <--- (what do you think?) >Ain't got dick baby, but I got a pup <---(??) >Ain't got a tee (????), but I got all up <---(?) Ain't got a leg, but I got a stump, Ain't got a dick baby, but I got a pump. Ain't got a titty, but I got a lump, >Well, he loves to wear silk not a scarf around his neck, baby Well he loved to wear silk knotted scarves around his neck baby >By taking that silk tie >Oiled >N.... it (?) Knotted, I remember the first time I ever heard this version of JITR. I was 17 and I was too shocked to play it loud enough for anyone to hear. Eventually I got into it, especially after seeing some of Karen's work on her own. Charles From jitr-owner Wed Feb 7 21:59:00 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id VAA28412 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 21:59:00 -0800 Received: from digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id VAA28407 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 21:58:55 -0800 Received: (from evil@localhost) by digital.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA08683; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 00:59:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 00:59:22 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Miller To: Ben Hockenhull , BillfitzFL@aol.com, Brian Whittington , Dana , Dave Kimmel , Jennifer Cohn , Roman Szendrey cc: jitr@server.postmodern.com, evil@digital.net Subject: Sinead O'Connor sale update (#1). Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ From jitr-owner Wed Feb 7 22:01:15 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id WAA28442 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 22:01:15 -0800 Received: from digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id WAA28437 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 22:01:05 -0800 Received: (from evil@localhost) by digital.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA08782; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 01:01:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 01:01:44 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Miller To: Ben Hockenhull , BillfitzFL@aol.com, Brian Whittington , Dana , Dave Kimmel , Jennifer Cohn , Roman Szendrey cc: jitr@server.postmodern.com, evil@digital.net Subject: Sinead O'Connor sale update (#1) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ >>> S I N E A D O ' C O N N O R C O L L E C T I O N F O R S A L E <<< ----------------------------------------------------------------- Questions and Reservations: evil@ddi.digital.net ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Here is the first update for my Sinead O'Connor sale which will be ending in just a few days. Tomorrow and Friday I will give all bidders a chance to up/finalize their offers (no new bids will be taken then). Then on Sunday, February 11th, I will get in touch with those people with the highest offers. Here are the current high bids: ^^^^ Jennifer Cohn > "KINGDOM OF RAIN" - THE THE promo-only 12" HOLLAND > (SAMP 1351 - EPIC/SOME BIZARRE) ... this was released as a > promotional-only single ... custom picture sleeve $25.00 > "I WANT (YOUR HANDS ON ME" cassette maxi-single US > (4VT 43256 - CHRYSALIS/ENSIGN) ... feat. "edit", "street mix", and > "dance mix" w/ MC Lyte, plus "Just Call Me Joe (live)" $10.00 Dave Kimmel > "TROY" 12" UK (ENYX 610 - ENSIGN/CHRYSALIS) $20 Ben Hockenhull > "MY SPECIAL CHILD" 7" UK (ENY 646 - ENSIGN) > > "MY SPECIAL CHILD" cd single UK (ENY CD 646 - ENSIGN) $20.00 (for the pair) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- And here are the items (quite a few actually) that currently have no solid offers. I'll take any resonable bids on these by the way: >> A L B U M S -------------- "AM I NOT YOUR GIRL?" lp UK (CHEN 26 / 0946 3 21952 1 0 - ENSIGN) "AM I NOT YOUR GIRL?" cassette ARGENTINA (CJ 3 21952 4) ... Argentinian release ... lists the song titles in Spanish "UNIVERSAL MOTHER" promo cd US (7243 8 30549 2 3 - CHRYSALIS/EMI) ... promo sticker affixed to front p/s, and promo 'warning' printed on the disc itself >> S I N G L E S ---------------- "DON'T CRY FOR ME ARGENTINA" 7" UK (ENY 657 / 0946 3 23921 7 6 - ENSIGN) "THE EMPEROR'S NEW CLOTHES" 12" US (V 23568 - CHRYSALIS/ENSIGN) ... still sealed w/ sleeve sticker "THE EMPEROR'S NEW CLOTHES" promo cd single US (DPRO 23528 - CHRYSALIS/ENSIGN) ... feat. "lp edit" and "lp version" "SUCCESS HAS MADE A FAILURE OF OUR HOME" 7" UK (ENY 656/0946 3 23898 7 9 - ENSIGN) > > C O M P I L A T I O N S --------------------------- "TWO ROOMS - CELEBRATING THE SONGS OF ELTON JOHN & BERNIE TAUPIN" cd US (845 750-2 - POLYDOR) ... feat. "Sacrifice" >> D U E T S & S P E C I A L A P P E A R A N C E S ----------------------------------------------------- "PEACE TOGETHER" - PEACE TOGETHER cd US (314-518 063-2 - ISLAND) ... feat. album version of "Be Still", "Be Still (robin guthrie remix)", and "Religious Persuasion" "RISING ABOVE BEDLAM" - JAH WOBBLE'S INVADERS OF THE HEART cd US (7 82386-2 - ATLANTIC) ... feat. "Visions Of You" and "Sweet Divinity" -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please make all bids in US funds. Postage will be included in any domestic orders over $30. Overseas orders over $50, and it will be covered as well. Otherwise, I will let you know about the postage cost. I have the right to refuse any bid. Also, please don't make an offer if you cannot cover it. All items are in great shape - any significant flaws will be disclosed before a sale or trade is finalized. As far as bids go, I am FAR MORE interested in trade (rather than money). Keep in mind that any trade will take presidence over a monetary bid. I am looking for releases from the following artists (as well as all side- projects, aliases, remixes of other bands' stuff): THE APHEX TWIN, ATOM HEART / LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS, COIL, DEPTH CHARGE, GOD IS MY CO-PILOT, GREATER THAN ONE, HIS NAME IS ALIVE, LOCUST, MEAT BEAT MANIFESTO / PERENNIAL DIVIDE, PORTISHEAD, SKINNY PUPPY, and WAGON CHRIST. If you have other stuff you want to trade, it won't hurt to ask! Questions and Reservations: evil@ddi.digital.net ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From jitr-owner Thu Feb 8 00:47:50 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id AAA28685 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 00:47:50 -0800 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.7.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id AAA28680 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 00:47:46 -0800 Received: from pi-user.pi.net (Arn22.pi.net [145.220.203.22]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id JAA19669; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:46:32 +0100 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 96 09:17:29 PST From: eduard verheijen Subject: jump in the river To: jitr@postmodern.com, bobbink@pi.net X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ ------------------------------------- Name: eduard verheijen E-mail: anna@neptunus.pi.net Date:02/08/96 Time:09:17:29 § everybody knew, nobody said § ------------------------------------- I thought at the end it might be.. Oild it, wet it (not sure though) ============================================== From jitr-owner Thu Feb 8 12:18:18 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id MAA01508 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 12:18:18 -0800 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.7.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id JAA01174 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:49:57 -0800 Received: from bobbink (Nij18.pi.net [145.220.200.18]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA02855 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 18:48:51 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4b11.32.19960208164229.0071dbc4@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.pi.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b11 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 17:42:29 +0100 To: Sinead Mailing List From: Mars-L Subject: Help needed again ! Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Thank you all for your help with the Kare Finley lyrics, I never expected that much replies !!! So maybe you can help us again with the next one, this one is more complete but we're not sure about some lines, esspecially the last few lines I Want Your (Hands On Me) (Sinead O'Connor/Mike Clowes/John Reynolds/Rob Dean/"Spike" Hollifield) ======================================================================= I want your hands on me What I want, give me You know I wanna please you What I wanna do to you You don't waste no time, do you? You know I'm looking through you Why you wanna tease me I want you to come and please me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me You know that I can thrill you I want you call me to you I wanna move, will you? I really wanna feel you Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put your hands on me Put your hands on me Put your hands on me Put your hands on me Put your hands on me Put your hands on me Put your hands on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Hands, gimme love Hands, gimme loads Hands, gimme love Hands, gimme loads I want your Feelings Gimme, yes Aaahhhh Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Put'em on, put'em on, put'em on me Hands, gimme love Hands, gimme loads Hands, gimme love Hands, gimme loads I want your Feelings Gimme, yes _________________________________________________________ transcribed by Stefan Lundell, corrections by Marcel Bobbink. Send corrections to; bobbink@pi.net or; T91_LUN@t.kth.se _________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTHING COMPARES 2 THEM visit the Mars-L Sinead/Prince Homepage http://www.pi.net/~bobbink ------------------------------------------------------------------ From jitr-owner Thu Feb 8 22:22:10 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id WAA02998 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 22:22:10 -0800 Received: from digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id WAA02993 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 22:22:06 -0800 Received: (from evil@localhost) by digital.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA08989; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 01:23:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 01:23:17 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Miller To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Pup vs. Pump. In-Reply-To: <199602070900.BAA23928@server.postmodern.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On Tue, 6 Feb 1996, that pervert Marcell exclaimed: > Ain't got a leg, but I got a stop <--- (what do you think?) > Ain't got dick baby, but I got a pup <---(??) > Ain't got a tee (????), but I got all up <---(?) And then, Sharon Fisher (with a straight face) replied: > Ain't got a leg, but I got a stop <--- (what do you think?) > > Stump, I thought. > > Ain't got dick baby, but I got a pup <---(??) > > Pump, I thought. > > Ain't got a tee (????), but I got all up <---(?) > > I thought it was 'titty' and 'lump,' respectively. For a minute there, I thought I stumbled into a chat room. Hey, what're you doing with those scarves guys? kcid. christopher miller evil@ddi.digital.net From jitr-owner Fri Feb 9 04:45:47 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id EAA05073 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 04:45:47 -0800 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.7.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id EAA05068 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 04:45:43 -0800 Received: from bobbink (Nij23.pi.net [145.220.200.23]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA09861 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 13:44:43 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4b11.32.19960209124447.0073799c@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b11 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 13:44:47 +0100 To: Sinead Mailing List From: Mars-L Subject: Lyrics help needed Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Could you all please look at these lyrics and correct them if neccisary; Biko (Peter Gabriel) >From a album called Wakafrika by a band called Manu diBango, containing Sinead's background vocals. September '77 Port Elizabeth weather fine It was business as usual In police room 619 Oh Biko, Biko, Biko, because Oh Biko, Biko, Biko, Biko Oh Biko, Biko, Biko, because Oh Biko, Biko, Biko, Biko Yihla Moja, Yihla Moja The man is death, the man is death When I try to sleep at night I can only dream in red The outside world is black and white With only one colour dead Oh Biko, Biko, Biko, because Oh Biko, Biko, Biko, Biko Oh Biko, Biko, Biko, because Oh Biko, Biko, Biko, Biko Yihla Moja, Yihla Moja The man is death, the man is death You can blow out a candle But you can't blow out a fire Once the flame begins to catch The wind will blow it higher Oh Biko, Biko, Biko, because Oh Biko, Biko, Biko, Biko Oh Biko, Biko, Biko, because Oh Biko, Biko, Biko, Biko Yihla Moja, Yihla Moja The man is death, the man is death Yihla Moja, Yihla Moja The man is death, the man is death Yihla Moja, Yihla Moja The man is death, the man is death ----------------------------------- Roman Szendrey send corrections to bobbink@pi.net or szendrey@site51.ping.at ----------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTHING COMPARES 2 THEM visit the Mars-L Sinead/Prince Homepage http://www.pi.net/~bobbink ------------------------------------------------------------------ From jitr-owner Sat Feb 10 09:01:14 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id JAA09602 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 09:01:14 -0800 Received: from digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id JAA09597 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 09:00:54 -0800 Received: (from evil@localhost) by digital.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA11027; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 12:02:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 12:02:01 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Miller To: jitr@server.postmodern.com cc: Ben Hockenhull , BillfitzFL@aol.com, Brian Whittington , Dana , Dave Kimmel , Jennifer Cohn , Roman Szendrey , Jen Grof Subject: Sinead O'Connor sale update (last chance). Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ >>> S I N E A D O ' C O N N O R C O L L E C T I O N F O R S A L E <<< ----------------------------------------------------------------- Questions and Reservations: evil@ddi.digital.net ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Here is the final update for my Sinead O'Connor sale which end at midnight today. And here are the items (quite a few actually) that currently have no solid offers. I'll take any resonable bids on these by the way: >> A L B U M S -------------- "AM I NOT YOUR GIRL?" lp UK (CHEN 26 / 0946 3 21952 1 0 - ENSIGN) "AM I NOT YOUR GIRL?" cassette ARGENTINA (CJ 3 21952 4) ... Argentinian release ... lists the song titles in Spanish >> S I N G L E S ---------------- "DON'T CRY FOR ME ARGENTINA" 7" UK (ENY 657 / 0946 3 23921 7 6 - ENSIGN) "THE EMPEROR'S NEW CLOTHES" promo cd single US (DPRO 23528 - CHRYSALIS/ENSIGN) ... feat. "lp edit" and "lp version" "SUCCESS HAS MADE A FAILURE OF OUR HOME" 7" UK (ENY 656/0946 3 23898 7 9 - ENSIGN) > > C O M P I L A T I O N S --------------------------- "TWO ROOMS - CELEBRATING THE SONGS OF ELTON JOHN & BERNIE TAUPIN" cd US (845 750-2 - POLYDOR) ... feat. "Sacrifice" >> D U E T S & S P E C I A L A P P E A R A N C E S ----------------------------------------------------- "PEACE TOGETHER" - PEACE TOGETHER cd US (314-518 063-2 - ISLAND) ... feat. album version of "Be Still", "Be Still (robin guthrie remix)", and "Religious Persuasion" "RISING ABOVE BEDLAM" - JAH WOBBLE'S INVADERS OF THE HEART cd US (7 82386-2 - ATLANTIC) ... feat. "Visions Of You" and "Sweet Divinity" -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please make all bids in US funds. Postage will be included in any domestic orders over $30. Overseas orders over $50, and it will be covered as well. Otherwise, I will let you know about the postage cost. I have the right to refuse any bid. Also, please don't make an offer if you cannot cover it. All items are in great shape - any significant flaws will be disclosed before a sale or trade is finalized. As far as bids go, I am FAR MORE interested in trade (rather than money). Keep in mind that any trade will take presidence over a monetary bid. I am looking for releases from the following artists (as well as all side- projects, aliases, remixes of other bands' stuff): THE APHEX TWIN, ATOM HEART / LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS, COIL, DEPTH CHARGE, GOD IS MY CO-PILOT, GREATER THAN ONE, HIS NAME IS ALIVE, LOCUST, MEAT BEAT MANIFESTO / PERENNIAL DIVIDE, PORTISHEAD, SKINNY PUPPY, and WAGON CHRIST. If you have other stuff you want to trade, it won't hurt to ask! Questions and Reservations: evil@ddi.digital.net ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From jitr-owner Sat Feb 10 13:01:21 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id NAA10026 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 13:01:21 -0800 Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id NAA10021 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 13:00:03 -0800 Received: from pita.cs.huji.ac.il by cs.huji.ac.il with SMTP id AA18448 (5.67b/HUJI 4.153 for ); Sat, 10 Feb 1996 22:59:24 +0200 From: Yoav Gonen Received: (from yogon@localhost) by pita.cs.huji.ac.il (8.7/1.1c) id WAA07249 for jitr@server.postmodern.com; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 22:58:34 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 22:58:34 +0200 (IST) Message-Id: <199602102058.WAA07249@pita.cs.huji.ac.il> To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: About this Sinead's items sell Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi everyone. I must admit. I don't like at all this Sinead's items sell that is done by Christopher. One of the reasons (not the major one) is that he is trying to make money out of it. A LOT of money, it seems to me. This is not nice, because we are talking about a collector's items. Items that were collected for many years I guess. They are priceless in any mean. Never mind. You want to make money out of it - be my guest, as long as there are buyers, it is your right. But what I really don't like is that you, Christopher, come to this mailing list, a mailing list of Sinead's "fans", and write that you are going to sell ALL Sinead's items. If you are not interested in Sinead & her music - it is your right, but it is really not nice, to tell us that. I, myself, am insulted. +---------------------+-----------------------------------------------------+ | Yoav Gonen | "Whatever it may bring | | yogon@cs.huji.ac.il | I will have my own policies | | Hebrew University | I will sleep with a clear conscience | | Jerusalem, Israel | I will sleep in peace..." | +---------------------+-------Sinead O'connor, The emperor's new clothes----+ From jitr-owner Sat Feb 10 14:02:13 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id OAA10346 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 14:02:13 -0800 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.7.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id OAA10341 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 14:02:09 -0800 Received: from bobbink (Nij16.pi.net [145.220.200.16]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id XAA20266 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 23:01:07 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4b11.32.19960210220106.00747610@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b11 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 23:01:06 +0100 To: Sinead Mailing List From: Mars-L Subject: Black Is The Color Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, I need your help again with these lyrics; I used the bootleg "The Lion In The Cage" to transcribe them; Black Is The Color Of My True Love's Hair Traditional song ========================================= Black is the color of my true love's hair Her lips are like some roses fair She....sweetest smile the gentlest time <-----??? And I love the ground whereon she stands I love my love, and well she knows I love the ground whereon she goes I wish the day soon would come When she and I will be as one And black is the color of my true love's hair Her lips are like some roses fair She.....sweetest smile the gentlest time <-----??? And I love the ground whereon she stands I go to the Clyde and mourn and weep But satisfied I never shall leave I'll write her a letter with a few short lines <---?? and suffer death a thousand times And black is the color of my true love's hair Her lips are like some roses fair She.....sweetest smile the gentlest time <----???? And I love the ground whereon she stands I love the ground whereon she stands I love the ground whereon she stands _______________________________________________________ Transcribed by Roman Szendrey and Marcel Bobbink Please send any corrections to: szendrey@site51.ping.at or: bobbink@pi.net _______________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTHING COMPARES 2 THEM visit the Mars-L Sinead/Prince Homepage http://www.pi.net/~bobbink ------------------------------------------------------------------ From jitr-owner Sat Feb 10 15:29:18 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id PAA10532 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 15:29:18 -0800 Received: from bbs.phantasy.com (bbs.phantasy.com [156.46.216.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id PAA10527 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 15:29:09 -0800 From: crisis@bbs.phantasy.com Received: from MHS by bbs.phantasy.com with MHS id BBBKCAFF.SMP ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 17:27:48 -0500 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 17:27:28 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Still Looking: To: jitr@postmodern.com Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ hi, i put a note in recently that i wsa looking for the Troy 12" and unfortunatly, i recieved no responses. if you know where i can get one or have a copy for sale yourself, please respond! thanks.. Aja From jitr-owner Sat Feb 10 20:41:19 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id UAA11221 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 20:41:19 -0800 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com (emout08.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.23]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id UAA11216 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 20:41:16 -0800 From: JenCohn201@aol.com Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA05239; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 23:39:48 -0500 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 23:39:48 -0500 Message-ID: <960210233947_141104754@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: yogon@cs.huji.ac.il, jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: About this Sinead's items sell Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Yoav, Don't be insulted by the sale. Christopher has a great appreciation for the music and he is not interested in taking advantage of anyone. He is providing me, a huge fan, a great service. I owe a lot to him. He is courteous, professional and very fair. As someone who has subscribed to the list for a while I can say he has provided me with the best reason for being here. Him and Marcel that is. I understand your concern but I assure you his intentions are pure. --Jennifer From jitr-owner Sun Feb 11 01:46:05 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id BAA11847 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 01:46:05 -0800 Received: from ping.at (pong.ping.at [193.81.13.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id BAA11842 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 01:46:02 -0800 Received: from site51.ping.at by ping.at with UUCP id AA12158 (5.67b8/ping for jitr@server.postmodern.com); Sun, 11 Feb 1996 10:45:19 +0100 Received: by site51.ping.at (CrossPoint v3.1); 11 Feb 1996 10:45:03 +0100 Date: 11 Feb 1996 10:44:00 +0100 From: szendrey@site51.ping.at (Roman Szendrey) To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Message-Id: <62dKPswTe6B@site51.ping.at> References: <960210233947_141104754@emout08.mail.aol.com> Subject: Re: About this Sinead's items sell X-Mailer: CrossPoint v3.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello Jencohn201, 10.02.96 / 23:39: You wrote in /Mailinglisten/JITR about "Re: About this Sinead's items sell": > Don't be insulted by the sale. Christopher has a great appreciation for the > music and he is not interested in taking advantage of anyone. He is > providing me, a huge fan, a great service. I owe a lot to him. He is > courteous, professional and very fair. As someone who has subscribed to the > list for a while I can say he has provided me with the best reason for being > here. Him and Marcel that is. I understand your concern but I assure you > his intentions are pure. i can only agree with you. christopher offers a great service to us sinead- fans who are looking for rare items. well, the items have a value for us. there are some i'd pay a lot for and if someone is not interested he does not have to buy one or even read the message. i know that cristopher is one of the biggest sinead-fans here and if he is selling parts of his collection that does not mean he does not like sinead. he has sooo many versions of these items so i guess he's only selling a little part of his collection. roman ---------------------------------------------------- roman szendrey (szendrey@site51.ping.at) fidonet: 2:310/25.50 compuserve: 100347,612 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/szendrey/ vienna / austria ---------------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.1 ## From jitr-owner Sun Feb 11 03:23:48 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id DAA13514 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 03:23:48 -0800 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.7.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id DAA13509 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 03:23:44 -0800 Received: from bobbink (Nij33.pi.net [145.220.200.33]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id MAA14000 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 12:22:57 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4b11.32.19960211112253.00735e94@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b11 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 12:22:53 +0100 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Mars-L Subject: Re: jitr-digest V2 #34 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Yoav Gonen wrote; about this Sinead's items sell; About Christophers sale; Yoah, I can imagine your opinion about Christopher, but I don't think you know him well. If I wouldn't know him I would have had the same opinion. He was a Sinead-collector but probably is over that period in his live :-), he was probably the person with (one of) the largest collection(s) you could find on this list. And I doubt wether he is making a lot money out of it. (He would if he just sold me InTuaNua or The Colourfield...just joking :-)) And even if he made some money out of it....why not ? In his sinead-days he probably also paid a lot for some items. Though the prices aren't that high in the "Sinead Collecting World", have you ever seen the prices in the Beatles, Stones, U2 or Prince worlds ??? That is real business. $100.00 for just one item are normal prices there. And I am sure Christopher isn't selling to get a LOT of money out of it, some months ago he send me a 12" for free, I even didn't have to pay him the postal-cost. >But what I really don't like is that you, Christopher, come to this >mailing list, a mailing list of Sinead's "fans", and write that you are >going to sell ALL Sinead's items. If you are not interested in Sinead & >her music - it is your right, but it is really not nice, to tell us that. Christopher is on this list a long time already, and he really is/was a fan. I'm sure Christopher didn't sell ALL his items, I wish he would have cause he still has some items which I want. Which place would be a better place for a Sinead-sale then this list ? Here are the people who are really looking for those items, so he helps a lot of us completing our collection. >I, myself, am insulted. That's your right, and like I said before, I would have also if I wouldn't know him.... But with Christopher I would have been insulted if he DIDN'T sell his stuff here but in the ALT.MUSIC.MARKETPLACE or some group like that. The only thing about Christopher I am insulted about is that he doesn't like Sinead's music anymore....:-) HOW COULD HE ? Most people never really listened to sineads music, but he knows it, he knows how great she is....so IMO he should still like her music :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTHING COMPARES 2 THEM visit the Mars-L Sinead/Prince Homepage http://www.pi.net/~bobbink ------------------------------------------------------------------ From jitr-owner Sun Feb 11 05:20:32 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id FAA13638 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 05:20:32 -0800 Received: from lulu.acns.nwu.edu (daemon@lulu.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.54]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id FAA13633 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 05:20:29 -0800 Received: from aragorn233.nuts.nwu.edu by lulu.acns.nwu.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.16/20.3) id AA223994786; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 07:19:46 -0600 Message-Id: <199602111319.AA223994786@lulu.acns.nwu.edu> X-Sender: jnt207@lulu.acns.nwu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 07:32:23 -0600 To: jitr@server.postmodern.com From: jnt207@lulu.acns.nwu.edu (Ju Nguan Tan) Subject: Re: About this Sinead's items sell Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hi people, I'm not sure how this discussion got started, but if there was some sort of criticism directed towards Christopher Miller then I also want to add that he has been nothing but incredibly generous towards me (and my Sinead collection!). Best, Ju From jitr-owner Sun Feb 11 08:07:23 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id IAA13899 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 08:07:23 -0800 Received: from digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id IAA13894 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 08:07:19 -0800 Received: (from evil@localhost) by digital.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA05043; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 11:08:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 11:08:31 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Miller To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: About this Sinead's items sell In-Reply-To: <199602110900.BAA11731@server.postmodern.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On Sat, 10 Feb 1996 Yoav Gonen stated: > I don't like at all this Sinead's items sell that is done by > Christopher. I, myself, am insulted. Hm. I didn't realize that I was upsetting anyone over this FS list. This is the second one which I have done on JITR, and yours is the first negative response I've come across. If you or anyone else has a complaint about this sale, please e-mail me in private and we'll talk about this more (a bad reputation is the last thing I want). On that note, maybe we should open a forum concerning what is and is not allowed when a FS list is posted on JITR. Again, I apologize for any problems which I may have caused. ezigolopa. christopher miller evil@ddi.digital.net From jitr-owner Sun Feb 11 10:36:45 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id KAA14147 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 10:36:45 -0800 Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id KAA14142 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 10:36:42 -0800 From: LittleHoss@aol.com Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA09530 for jitr@server.postmodern.com; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 13:35:22 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 13:35:22 -0500 Message-ID: <960211133522_318926568@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: About this Sinead's items sell Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On Sat, 10 Feb 1996 Yoav Gonen stated: > I don't like at all this Sinead's items sell that is done by > Christopher. I, myself, am insulted. ---------------------------------- I'm subscirbed not only to this list, but to another as well. I welcome sales on both. Already I've obtained several CD's which would have been very hard for me to find. I often help others out in locating difficult to find items. The only "gripe" I would have with sales is the following.... I don't particularly like the "Auctions" I wish those selling would decide what they want for an item and then post the price and sell to the first reply. If they don't recieve payment in (2) weeks, sell to the next person who requested the same item. To make it fair, post a notice of WHEN the pricing and item list will appear. Also,I don't mind paying a little extra to the person releasing the item, as they're doing us all a service and making it quite easy for us to complete or begin our own collections. I simply don't care to go head to head with my fellow Sinead fans. In the case of an EXCEPTIONALLY rare item, by all means....AUCTION it off. -Little From jitr-owner Sun Feb 11 12:01:28 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id MAA14436 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 12:01:28 -0800 Received: from 199.172.54.51 (derrida.postmodern.com [199.172.54.51]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id MAA14431; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 12:01:26 -0800 Message-ID: <311E4AFE.500D@postmodern.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 12:01:02 -0800 From: "Michael C. Berch" Reply-To: mcb@postmodern.com Organization: INFOBAHN Magazine / Postmodern Communications, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: About this Sinead's items sell References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Christopher Miller wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Feb 1996 Yoav Gonen stated: > > > I don't like at all this Sinead's items sell that is done by > > Christopher. I, myself, am insulted. > > Hm. I didn't realize that I was upsetting anyone over this FS list. > This is the second one which I have done on JITR, and yours is the first > negative response I've come across. If you or anyone else has a complaint > about this sale, please e-mail me in private and we'll talk about this > more (a bad reputation is the last thing I want). Speaking as the jitr list owner, I would say that we have never had an explicit policy about commercial postings on the list. It seems to be best approached on a case-by-case basis. One one end of the spectrum is random unrelated spam, which is (hopefully) caught by Majordomo and deleted before anyone sees it, and on the other end are messages like Christopher's which are from list members offering Sinead-related material for sale, which is perfectly fine (so long as it doesn't get posted too often and turn the list into a collection of advertising). -- Michael C. Berch jitr list owner mcb@postmodern.com jitr-approval@postmodern.com From jitr-owner Mon Feb 12 02:25:11 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id CAA17846 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 02:25:11 -0800 Received: from mons.uio.no (6089@mons.uio.no [129.240.200.26]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id CAA17841 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 02:25:07 -0800 Received: from ulrik.uio.no by mons.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <19307-0@mons.uio.no>; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 11:24:03 +0100 Received: from hedda by hedda.uio.no ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 11:23:59 +0100 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 11:23:59 +0100 (MET) From: anne ross X-Sender: anners@hedda To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Lyrics help needed Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Im looking for the lyrics for "The Value of Ignorance". If it has been on the JITR-list earlier sometime, please inform me which date. Anne :) From jitr-owner Mon Feb 12 13:25:31 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id NAA19067 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 13:25:31 -0800 Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id NAA19059 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 13:25:24 -0800 Received: from pita.cs.huji.ac.il by cs.huji.ac.il with SMTP id AA20821 (5.67b/HUJI 4.153 for ); Mon, 12 Feb 1996 23:24:56 +0200 From: Yoav Gonen Received: (from yogon@localhost) by pita.cs.huji.ac.il (8.7/1.1c) id XAA24754 for jitr@server.postmodern.com; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 23:24:05 +0200 (IST) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 23:24:05 +0200 (IST) Message-Id: <199602122124.XAA24754@pita.cs.huji.ac.il> To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: More About FS Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ :-o Well, I was quite surprised about the responses to my previous e-mail, this is why I what to conclude and explain what I said. Let's leave the issue of the money. It is not that important, and since many fans will be very happy with what they will get from Christopher, I really don't have any rights to tell him not to sell the items. But I was offended, really. It hurts to see such an ex-huge fan like Christopher selling all his Sinead-stuff that he collected for years. Poor Sinead. She is hardly been heard these days on the radio and tv channels, and now even her fans start leaving her. It hurts. And it really hurts when such a selling occurs in the JITR. this e-mail should have been posted to the appropriate newsgroups. And if you send it to JITR, which is much more logical, since all the potential buyers are here, at least add some explainations at the headline. Sorry, I was offended, and I know that others too. +---------------------+-----------------------------------------------------+ | Yoav Gonen | "Whatever it may bring | | yogon@cs.huji.ac.il | I will have my own policies | | Hebrew University | I will sleep with a clear conscience | | Jerusalem, Israel | I will sleep in peace..." | +---------------------+-------Sinead O'connor, The emperor's new clothes----+ From jitr-owner Mon Feb 12 18:49:52 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id SAA19851 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 18:49:52 -0800 Received: from emerald.oz.net (emerald.oz.net [198.68.184.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id SAA19846 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 18:49:49 -0800 Received: from [204.118.241.206] by emerald.oz.net via SMTP (8.6.12/930416.SGI) for id CAA02598; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 02:44:49 GMT Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 18:54:28 -0800 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: tbramy@oz.net (Todd Bramy) Subject: cover tape Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Just wanted to remind everyone that the February 28th deadline for cover tape submissions is rapidly approaching. Thus far, I've recieved one submission (Thanks Caroline, I got it today.) It'll be a pretty short tape unless all the others come in pretty quick. There's still time, so get them off to me soon, you stragglers. Thanks - Todd ########################## TODD BRAMY 6556 Division NW Seattle, WA 98117 ########################## From jitr-owner Mon Feb 12 19:10:50 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id TAA19925 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:10:50 -0800 Received: from presto.ig.com (root@presto.ig.com [134.172.2.146]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id TAA19920 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:10:47 -0800 Received: from BROWNVM.brown.edu (brownvm.brown.edu [128.148.19.19]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA25893 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:09:57 -0800 Message-Id: <199602130309.TAA25893@presto.ig.com> Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4370; Mon, 12 Feb 96 22:06:50 EST Received: from BROWNVM (NJE origin ST000445@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 1962; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 22:06:50 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 96 22:06:11 EST From: John Lund Subject: Re: More About FS To: jitr@PRESTO.IG.COM Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Is it me, or has this thread really taken a turn for the mundane? -John From jitr-owner Tue Feb 13 01:01:35 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id BAA20514 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 01:01:35 -0800 Received: from kth.se (kth.se [130.237.72.201]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id BAA20509 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 01:01:31 -0800 Received: from wing.t.kth.se (wing.t.kth.se [130.237.17.5]) by kth.se (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA12577 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 10:00:50 +0100 Received: from WING_KTH_SE/SpoolDir by wing.t.kth.se (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 13 Feb 96 10:00:03 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by WING_KTH_SE (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 13 Feb 96 9:59:44 +0100 From: "Stefan Lundell" Organization: KTH, Flyg To: jitr@postmodern.com Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 09:59:40 +0100 Subject: 1995 Hot Press Awards X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Stefan Lundell" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-ID: <171BA0178FB@wing.t.kth.se> Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Some good news: In the annual poll the readership of the Irish music magazine Hot Press have voted Sinead for the best Irish female artist of the year. :-) Among others she beat Dolores O'Riordan of the Cranberries, who came second. Sinead also did well in the best Irish songwriter section, where she came third after Bono and Van Morrison (if I remember it correctly). >Poor Sinead. She is hardly been heard these days on the radio and tv channels, > and now even her fans start leaving her. It hurts. Don't be sad Yoav, she isn't completely forgotten. :-) Best wishes, Stefan -------------------------------------------------------------* "Listen to the silence, let it ring on" - Joy Division "I'd always wanted to be a drum machine" - Stephen Morris (Joy Division, New Order) From jitr-owner Tue Feb 13 03:12:08 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id DAA22254 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 03:12:08 -0800 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.7.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id DAA22249 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 03:12:01 -0800 Received: from bobbink (Nij26.pi.net [145.220.200.26]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id MAA23432 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 12:10:54 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4b11.32.19960213111048.00724a20@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b11 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 12:10:48 +0100 To: Sinead Mailing List From: Mars-L Subject: Lyrically help needed Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Could you please look at the next lyrics; There's just one word missing IMHO, so pleaaaaseeee help me ! Black Is The Color Of My True Love's Hair Traditional song ========================================= Black is the color of my true love's hair Her lips are like some roses fair She....sweetest smile the gentlest time <-----??? And I love the ground whereon she stands I love my love, and well she knows I love the ground whereon she goes I wish the day soon would come When she and I will be as one And black is the color of my true love's hair Her lips are like some roses fair She.....sweetest smile the gentlest time <-----??? And I love the ground whereon she stands I go to the Clyde and mourn and weep But satisfied I never shall leave I'll write her a letter with a few short lines <---?? and suffer death a thousand times And black is the color of my true love's hair Her lips are like some roses fair She.....sweetest smile the gentlest time <----???? And I love the ground whereon she stands I love the ground whereon she stands I love the ground whereon she stands _______________________________________________________ Transcribed by Roman Szendrey and Marcel Bobbink Please send any corrections to: szendrey@site51.ping.at or: bobbink@pi.net _______________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTHING COMPARES 2 THEM visit the Mars-L Sinead/Prince Homepage http://www.pi.net/~bobbink ------------------------------------------------------------------ From jitr-owner Tue Feb 13 09:22:44 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id JAA22962 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 09:22:44 -0800 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.7.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id JAA22956 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 09:22:40 -0800 Received: from bobbink (Nij35.pi.net [145.220.200.35]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA23187 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 18:21:54 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4b11.32.19960213172155.007264e0@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.pi.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b11 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 18:21:55 +0100 To: Sinead Mailing List From: Mars-L Subject: Mraya Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, I wanted to translate Mraya (newest sinead song) but that's probably impossible. It's sung in Algerian/Arabic, and some parts are french. On this cd called Mraya done by Abdel Ali Slimani, Sinead sings the background vocals on the title-track. It's really a great cd which I would have bought even if it didn't include a song with Sinead. BTW; there is another song (and a remix of that song) on this cd, which according to my girlfriend, includes vocals by Sinead, though it isn't mentioned in the booket.....and I'm not sure about that....could be, could not. This song is called Anna Guelile and the remix is called Ana Guelile dub. So if you have this cd please listen. Abdel's cd is produced by Peter Gabriel (him again) and the songs where written by Abdel Slimani, Justin Adams, Jah Wobble (also him again) and (yep who else) John Reynold. (It's a small world :-)) Jah Wobble also plays bass and John Reynolds also plays drums and adds some background vocals. So if you like RAI-music, or the music from Les Negress Vertes BUY THIS CD !!! And if you like this cd, you should listen to (Cheb) Khaled. His biggest hit, which was a huge hit here in The Netherlands, is Didi. And when I was on a holliday in Tunesia 3 years ago, they played this song over and over, where ever you came. The song (Mraya) is superb, if you like RAI-music (like Cheb Khaled). This kind of music fits to Sinead, because RAI-music is also protest-music, mostly political. In Algeria it's impossible to tell you polical-ideas, so Cheb Khaled started singing protest-songs underground. RAI-music has the old Arabian music as its roots, but RAI uses a lot of western-sound elements. And insteed of singing about how great life is Cheb Khaled started singing about politics. After a while Cheb Khaled became so famous that the Algerian government wanted to stop him, so he moved to France. Lots of other singers also started to sing RAI. Abou 2 years ago Cheb Khaled changed his artist name in just Khaled because Cheb means something like boy, and now he's about 40 so Cheb doesn't fit anymore. This album which is released through Peter Gabriels label called "Real World" fits in Peters ideas of publishing international music. He also released albums with music from Pakistan, Cuba, Zaire, Tanzania, India, Egypt, Mozambique, China, Pakistan, Samiland (where the h*ll is that ??), Uganda, Pakistan, Russia, Cambodja, Madagascar, america, IRELAND, Georgia, Colombia, Japan, Turkmenistan (????), Burkina Faso, Uganda, Morroco, Tuva (???), Kenya, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Burundi, Guinea, and his own from England. ------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTHING COMPARES 2 THEM visit the Mars-L Sinead/Prince Homepage http://www.pi.net/~bobbink ------------------------------------------------------------------ From jitr-owner Tue Feb 13 10:41:55 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id KAA23241 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 10:41:55 -0800 Received: from mail-relay1 (mail-relay1.cis.yale.edu [130.132.21.199]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id KAA23236 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 10:41:51 -0800 Received: from capitoline.cis.yale.edu by mail-relay1 with SMTP id AA19452 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 13 Feb 1996 13:39:12 -0500 Received: from morpheus.cis.yale.edu (vinhtu@morpheus [130.132.143.248]) by capitoline.cis.yale.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA26683 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 13:41:04 -0500 Received: (from vinhtu@localhost) by morpheus.cis.yale.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA24629; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 13:41:03 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 13:41:02 -0500 (EST) From: Vinh Tu X-Sender: vinhtu@morpheus To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: jitr-digest V2 #36 In-Reply-To: <199602130900.BAA20498@server.postmodern.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ > From: Yoav Gonen > Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 23:24:05 +0200 (IST) > Subject: More About FS [snip] > But I was offended, really. It hurts to see such an ex-huge fan like > Christopher selling all his Sinead-stuff that he collected for years. Poor > Sinead. She is hardly been heard these days on the radio and tv channels, > and now even her fans start leaving her. It hurts. > > And it really hurts when such a selling occurs in the JITR. this e-mail > should have been posted to the appropriate newsgroups. And if you send it > to JITR, which is much more logical, since all the potential buyers are > here, at least add some explainations at the headline. > > Sorry, I was offended, and I know that others too. This is the first message I'm posting to this list. And I can't help but say that I most totally disagree with Yoav. Chris obviously has been a collector for an extremely long time, and it is also clear that he has been a true fan. But sometimes people need to move on and sometimes it's necessary to purge oneself of the possessions that one has had for too long. The stuff he's selling: they're just Things. I'm sure Chris still loves the music but, as to keeping a huge pile of stuff in his house, eventually you may need to get rid of it. I love Sinead's music, and right now I'm going to try to find some new posters for my room. But eventually, I'll get bored of them and I'll tear them down. That doesn't mean I'll have stopped enjoying Sinead O'Connor's music, or that I'll have become less of an adoring fan. You need not have a temple to worship. ----- brekekekex ko-ax koax From jitr-owner Tue Feb 13 15:37:23 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id PAA24302 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 15:37:23 -0800 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.7.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id PAA24297 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 15:37:14 -0800 Received: from bobbink (Nij36.pi.net [145.220.200.36]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id AAA27561 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 00:16:33 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4b11.32.19960213231647.00748c14@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b11 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 00:16:47 +0100 To: Sinead Mailing List From: Mars-L Subject: Reworked WWW-page Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, Sorry for bothering again today :-) I wanted to let you know, that my Sinead-WWW-page is totally redone, everything is changed and IMO it looks a lot better. Let's say the previous one was a BETA-TEST and this is version 1.0 There are a few new links, the discography (of which is also a zipped version downloadable) is updated till february 12th 1996, and the total of available lyrics almost reached the 100. And I added my own want-list so I don't have to bother you again with THAT list through THIS list. I don't know wether all browsers can read it normally, and wether I used HTML1, HTML2, HTML3 codes, I don't know a thing about HTML (just started to learn it a bit) so I hope you all can enter it with your own browser. PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AND GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT IT ! If your browser can't handle it, let me know what it can't handle maybe I can change that in version 1.0.0l :-) Also let me know when a link doesn't work (anymore), I know the guitar-tabs link doesn't work yet. That page is gone for the moment, but will probably back, so I left the link. If you wanna see something added or corrected also....LEMME KNOW !! ------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTHING COMPARES 2 THEM visit the Mars-L Sinead/Prince Homepage http://www.pi.net/~bobbink ------------------------------------------------------------------ From jitr-owner Wed Feb 14 04:34:07 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id EAA27223 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 04:34:07 -0800 Received: from sentry.mmmg.com (sentry.mmmg.com [136.229.1.5]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id EAA27218 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 04:34:03 -0800 Received: from dave_crago (dave_crago.mmm.com) by mail.mmmg.com with SMTP id AA28026 (3M-1.1 for ); Wed, 14 Feb 1996 06:32:49 -0600 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 06:32:49 -0600 Message-Id: <199602141232.AA28026@mail.mmmg.com> X-Sender: us318746@mail.mmmg.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jitr@server.postmodern.COM From: Darren Rogers Subject: Sinead's views on recent IRA bombing and other such things Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.COM Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ I admit I'm fairly ignorant on some of Sinead's views, being a relatively new fan and concentrating mainly on MUSIC, but does/has Sinead share(d) any views on the IRA, the recent "peace" process, the even more recent IRA bombing? Other than the song "Black Boys on Mopeds" and some Easter Rebellion, historical Irish-type songs she has recorded, I have no idea what her views are. I appreciate the note on mailing address(es) for Sinead. I still haven't found an e-mail address, if she wants that known. Any clues? I was just thinking the other day that the things that make Sinead so attractive are her ability to sound so hopeful, loving, optimistic, with child-like faith one minute, and follow that up with such strength, sometimes anger and bitterness, and power. I guess it comes from the overall sincerity of her work. While a lot of performers seems to plan for "shock-value", it seems that Sinead is a genuinely shocking person, and she is not inhibited in the least by fame, money, or media. I love her! ========================================= || "Whatever it may bring, || || I will live by my own policies. || || will sleep with a clear conscience; || || I will sleep in peace." - Sinead O'Connor || ========================================= Darren From jitr-owner Wed Feb 14 09:45:55 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id JAA27760 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 09:45:55 -0800 Received: from ibmmail.COM (ibmmail.com [199.171.26.3]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id JAA27755 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 09:45:51 -0800 From: usboialg@ibmmail.com Message-Id: <199602141745.JAA27755@server.postmodern.com> Received: from ibmmail by ibmmail.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 9738; Wed, 14 Feb 96 12:44:56 EST Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 12:45:00 EST To: jitr@server.postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: /INTERNET Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ TO: IBMMAIL.INTERNET COPIES: FROM: USBOIALG AL.GROTE PAPERRAD PHONE:(503)-286-7458 SUBJECT: /INTERNET "HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY SINEAD" ******************************** DISTRIBUTION ************************* IBMMAIL INTERNET BCISOFFS From jitr-owner Wed Feb 14 11:50:07 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id LAA28134 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 11:50:07 -0800 Received: from ibmmail.COM (ibmmail.com [199.171.26.3]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id LAA28129 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 11:50:03 -0800 From: usboialg@ibmmail.com Message-Id: <199602141950.LAA28129@server.postmodern.com> Received: from ibmmail by ibmmail.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 0096; Wed, 14 Feb 96 14:49:03 EST Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 14:49:07 EST To: jitr@server.postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: /INTERNET Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ TO: IBMMAIL.INTERNET COPIES: FROM: USBOIALG AL.GROTE PAPERRAD PHONE:(503)-286-7458 SUBJECT: /INTERNET Mars-L, I believe you made mention a while back about Promo CD came out of Sinead's greatest hits? Do you have the CD# and is in fact already out in the USA? Al usboialg@ibmmail.com by the way, did you receive a prvious message from me on this subject? ******************************** DISTRIBUTION ************************* IBMMAIL INTERNET BCISOFFS From jitr-owner Wed Feb 14 12:54:03 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id MAA28315 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 12:54:03 -0800 Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id MAA28310 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 12:53:55 -0800 Received: from mangal.cs.huji.ac.il by cs.huji.ac.il with SMTP id AA23895 (5.67b/HUJI 4.153 for ); Wed, 14 Feb 1996 22:53:30 +0200 Received: (from yogon@localhost) by mangal.cs.huji.ac.il (8.7/1.1c) id WAA28231; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 22:52:41 +0200 (IST) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 22:52:41 +0200 (IST) From: Yoav Gonen To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: 1995 Hot Press Awards In-Reply-To: <171BA0178FB@wing.t.kth.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On Tue, 13 Feb 1996, Stefan Lundell wrote: > Hello, > > Some good news: > > In the annual poll the readership of the Irish music magazine Hot > Press have voted Sinead for the best Irish female artist of the > year. :-) Among others she beat Dolores O'Riordan of the Cranberries, > who came second. Sinead also did well in the best Irish songwriter section, > where she came third after Bono and Van Morrison (if I remember it correctly). > This is really good news. Though I think that Sinead didn't do much last year (95). After her great performances during the summer, she became silence more or less (still, there were the song "Empire" which is really a great hit -- can someone give me information about it, and her songs with The Chieftains). 1995 was not a great year for the females singers in general I think. I can only mention two: Bjork, with her great album "Post" (which is still not as good as "Debut", but close enough), and of course Alanis Morissette with her unbelievable album "Jagged Little Pill" (I give it a mark of 9 out of 10). JLP reminds me a bit of TLaTC, in its virginity and freshness. Let's hope that 1996 will be the year of Sinead (with her new album, hopefully), and if Dolores will release a new one, I will not be sorry either. ;-) Yoav. From jitr-owner Wed Feb 14 13:10:15 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id NAA28428 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 13:10:15 -0800 Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id NAA28422 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 13:09:54 -0800 Received: from mangal.cs.huji.ac.il by cs.huji.ac.il with SMTP id AA24085 (5.67b/HUJI 4.153 for ); Wed, 14 Feb 1996 23:09:27 +0200 Received: (from yogon@localhost) by mangal.cs.huji.ac.il (8.7/1.1c) id XAA28612; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 23:08:38 +0200 (IST) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 23:08:38 +0200 (IST) From: Yoav Gonen To: Darren Rogers Cc: jitr@server.postmodern.COM Subject: Re: Sinead's views on recent IRA bombing and other such things In-Reply-To: <199602141232.AA28026@mail.mmmg.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.COM Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On Wed, 14 Feb 1996, Darren Rogers wrote: > I admit I'm fairly ignorant on some of Sinead's views, being a relatively > new fan and concentrating mainly on MUSIC, but does/has Sinead share(d) any > views on the IRA, the recent "peace" process, the even more recent IRA > bombing? Other than the song "Black Boys on Mopeds" and some Easter > Rebellion, historical Irish-type songs she has recorded, I have no idea what > her views are. > Sinead never used to sing a lot about Ireland. Though she had a song that is called "Irish ways & Irish Laws", and of course her more famous one: "famine", in which she blame the Irish people itself for all his miseries!!! About England there is "black boys on mopeds" but also a quite new song which is call "Empire". I don't know much about it, but in this song she seems to compare England to a Vampire that loves to suck the blood of others. Anyway, besides the songs themselves, Sinead had views that she expressed elsewhere. In the subject the IRA, she was one of the few Irish V.I.P.s who dared to attack them during their terror acts in 1993-94. She also attacked the Irish Government in the famous Abortion issue. I believe, (I'm not sure so), that in her way, Sinead contributed a lot to the (what used to be till last week) peace in Ireland. About the last terror act in London. Sinead is probably not happy at all from it. Maybe she'll say something about it, but I dought it. She as much more "burning" issue to concern. (She is in her 6-9th month of pregnancy as you probably know) > || "Whatever it may bring, || > || I will live by my own policies. || > || will sleep with a clear conscience; || > || I will sleep in peace." - Sinead O'Connor || > ========================================= > > Darren > > :-o I must change my .sig then... +---------------------+-----------------------------------------------------+ | Yoav Gonen | "Whatever it may bring | | yogon@cs.huji.ac.il | I will have my own policies | | Hebrew University | I will sleep with a clear conscience | | Jerusalem, Israel | I will sleep in peace..." | +---------------------+-------Sinead O'connor, The emperor's new clothes----+ From jitr-owner Wed Feb 14 15:14:43 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id PAA28851 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 15:14:43 -0800 Received: from mail.xgw.fi (root@xgw1.pal.xgw.fi [193.64.41.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id PAA28846 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 15:14:38 -0800 Received: from xgw10.xgw.fi (xgw10.pal.xgw.fi [193.64.41.10]) by mail.xgw.fi (8.6.11/8.6.4) with ESMTP id BAA24131; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 01:13:43 +0200 Received: from localhost (bloke@localhost) by xgw10.xgw.fi (8.6.5/8.6.4) id BAA06780; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 01:17:22 +0200 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 01:17:20 +0200 (EET) From: Jani Juvonen To: Yoav Gonen cc: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: 1995 Hot Press Awards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On Wed, 14 Feb 1996, Yoav Gonen wrote: > 1995 was not a great year for the females singers in general I think. I'd say it was... maybe not for solo-artists, but female fronted rock bands had a good year. (Elastica, Sleeper, Echobelly etc) > Let's hope that 1996 will be the year of Sinead (with her new album, > hopefully), and if Dolores will release a new one, I will not be sorry > either. The Cranberries new album may be released in May... -Jani Juvonen http://www.xgw.fi/users/bloke/ ---------------------------------------------------------------* "Why do you have to kill yourself with any kind of work, when there's so many other things to do?" -Ida Kereszturszki From jitr-owner Wed Feb 14 15:44:33 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id PAA28916 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 15:44:33 -0800 Received: from dune.artic.edu (dune.artic.edu [198.40.25.4]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id PAA28911 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 15:44:25 -0800 Received: from [198.40.25.110] (sap10.artic.edu [198.40.25.110]) by dune.artic.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA20267 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 17:43:58 -0600 X-Sender: cchris@dune.artic.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 17:44:39 -0600 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: cchris@artic.edu (Charles Christensen) Subject: Re: Sinead's views on recent IRA bombing and other such things Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ >Sinead never used to sing a lot about Ireland. Though she had a song that >is called "Irish ways & Irish Laws", and of course her more famous one: >"famine", in which she blame the Irish people itself for all his miseries!!! Excuse me? I thought that "Famine" put the blame of the famine on the English, stating that all of the food was shipped out to England under armed guard while the Irish starved. She blames the behavior of the Irish (drug abuse, child abuse, terrorism) on "post-traumatic stress disorder." Charles P.S. Anyone know where to locate a Mac version of the "handwriting" font from Sinead's first 3 albums? From jitr-owner Wed Feb 14 17:23:13 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id RAA29163 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 17:23:13 -0800 Received: from gw.wmich.edu (gw.wmich.edu [141.218.1.100]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id RAA29158 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 17:23:10 -0800 Received: from piglet.cc.wmich.edu (piglet.cc.wmich.edu [141.218.20.105]) by gw.wmich.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10849 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 20:22:24 -0500 Received: from wmich.edu by wmich.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #5064) id <01I17SANMD80B7KFIJ@wmich.edu>; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 20:21:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 20:19:02 -0500 (EST) From: "m." Subject: new album and empire. To: jitr:; Cc: X93PODSIAD@wmich.edu Message-id: <01I17SM32AG8B7KFIJ@wmich.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ i have a couple of questions... what is 'empire'? is it a new sinead song or something she did with someone else? is it available in the us, or anywhere for that matter? and i've heard a few things about a new record. does anyone know anything about this, ie. is it true that she's working on something? thanks all for your time. lovem. From jitr-owner Wed Feb 14 19:42:40 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id TAA29567 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 19:42:40 -0800 Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com (mail06.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.108]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id TAA29562 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 19:42:16 -0800 From: BillfitzFL@aol.com Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA00930 for jitr@postmodern.com; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 22:40:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 22:40:59 -0500 Message-ID: <960214224057_422995595@mail06.mail.aol.com> To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: female singers Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Yoav wrote: >1995 was not a great year for the females singers in general I think. I can >only mention two: Bjork, with her great album "Post" (which is still not as >good as "Debut", but close enough), and of course Alanis >Morissette you forgot PJ Harvey and joan osbourne.....just thought I'd mention that. Fitz From jitr-owner Thu Feb 15 03:20:43 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id DAA02220 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 03:20:43 -0800 Received: from pat.uio.no (6089@pat.uio.no [129.240.2.50]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id DAA02215 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 03:20:38 -0800 Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <27566-0@pat.uio.no>; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 12:19:33 +0100 Received: from hedda by hedda.uio.no ; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 12:19:31 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 12:19:30 +0100 (MET) From: anne ross X-Sender: anners@hedda To: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: jitr-digest V2 #38 In-Reply-To: <199602150900.BAA00368@server.postmodern.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ > > ------------------------------ > > From: Yoav Gonen > Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 23:08:38 +0200 (IST) > Subject: Re: Sinead's views on recent IRA bombing and other such things > > On Wed, 14 Feb 1996, Darren Rogers wrote: > > > I admit I'm fairly ignorant on some of Sinead's views, being a relatively > > new fan and concentrating mainly on MUSIC, but does/has Sinead share(d) any > > views on the IRA, the recent "peace" process, the even more recent IRA > > bombing? Other than the song "Black Boys on Mopeds" and some Easter > > Rebellion, historical Irish-type songs she has recorded, I have no idea what > > her views are. > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: cchris@artic.edu (Charles Christensen) > Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 17:44:39 -0600 > Subject: Re: Sinead's views on recent IRA bombing and other such things > > >Sinead never used to sing a lot about Ireland. Though she had a song that > >is called "Irish ways & Irish Laws", and of course her more famous one: > >"famine", in which she blame the Irish people itself for all his miseries!!! > > Excuse me? I thought that "Famine" put the blame of the famine on the > English, stating that all of the food was shipped out to England under > armed guard while the Irish starved. She blames the behavior of the Irish > (drug abuse, child abuse, terrorism) on "post-traumatic stress disorder." Yes, the first time she Sinead stated those opinions in public was in an Interview with Q magazine. She believes it is wrong to call the failure in the potato crop a famine, because it never would have been a famine hadnt it been for the English transporting all the other food out of the country. (The shipping lists are appearantly still available for everyone to see) In the beginning oh her career she expressed support for the IRA, although she didnt like what they were doing, she thought it somewhat necessary. She also performed at "Troops out" -concerts in Ireland. Later she admitted having been influenced by Fatchna O Cellaigh, her manager. A time ago she was quoted in the papers for having supported the IRA, when in fact all she did was talk about forgiveness, that the IRA bobmbers were not evil but battered children. At the time when "Peace together" was recorded and the peace-prosess was going on, there was a peace-demonstration in Dublin (led by a housewife) where Sinead sang for the crowd, "make me a channel of your peace". (She also performed the song for Rabin, Peres and Arafat under the Nobel Prize concert in Oslo). It seems she is quite involved in this, and she seems to stress understanding, "working through the issues"and forgiveness instead of just blind, raging rebellion in another way then earlier, much in parallell with her own personal life. From jitr-owner Thu Feb 15 06:58:24 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id GAA02501 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 06:58:24 -0800 Received: from kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (SYSTEM@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu [129.237.32.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id GAA02496 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 06:58:19 -0800 Received: from washington.engr.ukans.edu by KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU (PMDF V5.0-5 #13311) id <01I18J0AGGHS8X1RWO@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU>; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 08:57:24 -0600 (CST) Received: by washington.engr.ukans.edu (4.1/KU-1.6s) id AA17165; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 09:01:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 09:01:43 -0600 (CST) From: Highlander Subject: Famine Info In-reply-to: X-Sender: jrussell@washington To: anne ross Cc: jitr@postmodern.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, anne ross wrote: > Yes, the first time she Sinead stated those opinions in public was in an > Interview with Q magazine. She believes it is wrong to call the failure > in the potato crop a famine, because it never would have been a famine > hadnt it been for the English transporting all the other food out > of the country. (The shipping lists are appearantly still available for > everyone to see) Hi all, Just wanted to put my two cents in about "the famine". Sineads comments are heartfelt and understandable, but not totally correct. The english did ship food out under guards.. but that was only part of the problem. In the mid-1840's ireland was a very rural and non-industrialized country. Its major crops were potatoes (the food stuffs) and some grains. The irish people never planted other crops to compensate for the potatoe blight which struck in late 1846. Because of the weather and lack of a good fungicide, the potatoe blight spread very rapidly and persisted for over 6 years. Other problems included the growing of grains and barley which were used as a monetary system to pay rents on land. Of course these lands were owned often by absentee-english landlords who didn't lower rents during the famine. But the english did try to provide relief, they set up food depots and soup-kitchens, tried several work programs like the US had during the depression.... and several other countries (US, France, Spain) did give some support or take in those who fled the famine. The famine and its effects are very complex and have determined the course of irish events today. While the english did export food out of the country, they also tried to help. This is just my humble opinion and if you want to flame me feel free, but please send it to me directly so we don't waste traffic on JITR. All my information is from several book which i'd be glad to give out the titles and authors.. they are excellent books on irish history. jrussell http://www.engr.ukans.edu/~jrussell/music/sinead/sinead.html p.s. And for those who don't think 1995 was a good year for female artists: Alanis Morisette Sophie B. Hawkins Heather Nova Jewel Natalie Merchant Tori Amos (ok this is 1996 release, but a darn good CD!) Joan Osborne Bjork These may be 1994/1995 releases: Belly Milla Liz Phair Throwing Muses Veruca Salt Just more of my humble opinion! :) http://www.engr.ukans.edu/~jrussell/music/music.html From jitr-owner Thu Feb 15 08:28:19 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id IAA02747 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 08:28:19 -0800 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.7.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with ESMTP id IAA02742 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 08:28:13 -0800 Received: from bobbink (Nij40.pi.net [145.220.200.40]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id RAA18648 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 17:26:56 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4b11.32.19960215162712.007288b8@pop.pi.net> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.pi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b11 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 17:27:12 +0100 To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Mars-L Subject: Re: jitr-digest V2 #38 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ Hello, And Yesterdays JITR-list a great start of the day....wow, it really lived yesterday. And that's why I prefer the daily-digest above direct mail. All interesting comes at once to my computer, when I'm waking up with a cup of coffee. Darren wrote; ============= >I appreciate the note on mailing address(es) for Sinead. I still haven't >found an e-mail address, if she wants that known. Any clues? She has probably no E-mail adress or it's one of the biggest secrets of Internet :-) Al wrote; ========= >Mars-L, I believe you made mention a while back about Promo CD came >out of Sinead's greatest hits? Do you have the CD# and is in fact >already out in the USA? I have the promo ordered twice from the USA I even don't know wether it's available here in Europe. It's a promo containing all the hits, though I doubt wether it will really release. It's probably just a DJ-promo It's catalogue nr is; DPRO-19973 BTW; you could also find this info on my WWW-page ! Yoah wrote; =========== >still, there were the song "Empire" which is really a >great hit -- can someone give me information about it, and her songs with >The Chieftains What info do you want ? Lyrics are on my www-page. >Let's hope that 1996 will be the year of Sinead (with her new album, >hopefully), and if Dolores will release a new one, I will not be sorry >either. Last year she said she would release an album in the beginning of 1996, but probably she wasn't pregnant when she said that.... >which is call "Empire". I don't know much about it, but in this song she >seems to compare England to a Vampire that loves to suck the blood of others. Seems you like that song Empire huh ? :-) It's also one of my favorites ! BTW; I do think there's so much more about Ireland but then in a more abstract way about it. >About the last terror act in London. Sinead is probably not happy at all >from it. Maybe she'll say something about it, but I dought it. She as much >more "burning" issue to concern. (She is in her 6-9th month of pregnancy as >you probably know) Again; I think the child is already born, she was already pregnant during Lollapalooza in June 96, that's 9 months ago. And probably she was already pregnant for some weeks during Lollapalooza, otherwise she probably didn't need to quit. So that means the child is already born ! Charles wrote; ============== >P.S. Anyone know where to locate a Mac version of the "handwriting" font >from Sinead's first 3 albums? This is no font, even not for windows, the ones you see on all the sineaf WWW-pages are all ripp-outs from a cd-booklets done by for example Photo-paint. M. wrote; ========= >i have a couple of questions... >what is 'empire'? is it a new sinead song or something she did with someone >else? is it available in the us, or anywhere for that matter? It's a songs sinead did together with Bomb The Bass, you can find it on their album called Clear. BTW; this song is also on the 4 Sinead-tapes which where via this list..... And also the info about this song is findable on my www-page. I write; ======== There's an error on my www-page, when you downloaded the zipped version of the discography and open it in Word it says that it's dated dec.29th 1995.... This is wrong, it's already updated till february 14th 1996, I just forgot to change the date. Also I've added a zipped-file containing ALL lyrics, it's just 44kB. This all has been changed just a minute ago ! ------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTHING COMPARES 2 THEM visit the Mars-L Sinead/Prince Homepage http://www.pi.net/~bobbink ------------------------------------------------------------------ From jitr-owner Thu Feb 15 09:30:38 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id JAA02905 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 09:30:38 -0800 Received: from sentry.mmmg.com (sentry.mmmg.com [136.229.1.5]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id JAA02889 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 09:29:40 -0800 Received: from dave_crago (dave_crago.mmm.com) by mail.mmmg.com with SMTP id AA06778 (3M-1.1 for ); Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:28:29 -0600 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:28:29 -0600 Message-Id: <199602151728.AA06778@mail.mmmg.com> X-Sender: us318746@mail.mmmg.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jitr@postmodern.com From: Darren Rogers Subject: Re: Famine Info Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ For anyone interested in the Famine and its effects (I hope this is not too divergent from the subject of Sinead), a book that I found very informative and interesting is "Paddy's Lament". I do not rememder the author's name. Does Sinead get into early Celtic (not necessarily Irish) subjects or lore very much? This is another interest of mine. Thanks... At 09:01 AM 2/15/96 -0600, you wrote: >On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, anne ross wrote: > >> Yes, the first time she Sinead stated those opinions in public was in an >> Interview with Q magazine. She believes it is wrong to call the failure >> in the potato crop a famine, because it never would have been a famine >> hadnt it been for the English transporting all the other food out >> of the country. (The shipping lists are appearantly still available for >> everyone to see) > >Hi all, > > Just wanted to put my two cents in about "the famine". Sineads comments >are heartfelt and understandable, but not totally correct. The english >did ship food out under guards.. but that was only part of the problem. > >In the mid-1840's ireland was a very rural and non-industrialized country. >Its major crops were potatoes (the food stuffs) and some grains. The >irish people never planted other crops to compensate for the potatoe >blight which struck in late 1846. Because of the weather and lack of >a good fungicide, the potatoe blight spread very rapidly and persisted >for over 6 years. > >Other problems included the growing of grains and barley which were used >as a monetary system to pay rents on land. Of course these lands were >owned often by absentee-english landlords who didn't lower rents during >the famine. > > But the english did try to provide relief, they set up food depots and >soup-kitchens, tried several work programs like the US had during the >depression.... and several other countries (US, France, Spain) did give >some support or take in those who fled the famine. > > The famine and its effects are very complex and have determined the course >of irish events today. While the english did export food out of the country, >they also tried to help. > >This is just my humble opinion and if you want >to flame me feel free, but please send it to me directly so we don't waste >traffic on JITR. All my information is from several book which i'd be glad >to give out the titles and authors.. they are excellent books on irish >history. > >jrussell > >http://www.engr.ukans.edu/~jrussell/music/sinead/sinead.html > >p.s. And for those who don't think 1995 was a good year for female artists: > Alanis Morisette > Sophie B. Hawkins > Heather Nova > Jewel > Natalie Merchant > Tori Amos (ok this is 1996 release, but a darn good CD!) > Joan Osborne > Bjork > > These may be 1994/1995 releases: > Belly > Milla > Liz Phair > Throwing Muses > Veruca Salt > >Just more of my humble opinion! :) > >http://www.engr.ukans.edu/~jrussell/music/music.html > > > > ========================================= || "Whatever it may bring, || || I will live by my own policies. || || will sleep with a clear conscience; || || I will sleep in peace." - Sinead O'Connor || ========================================= Darren From jitr-owner Thu Feb 15 13:10:31 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id NAA03494 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 13:10:31 -0800 Received: from ibmmail.COM (ibmmail.com [199.171.26.3]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id NAA03488 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 13:10:27 -0800 From: usboialg@ibmmail.com Message-Id: <199602152110.NAA03488@server.postmodern.com> Received: from ibmmail by ibmmail.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 7289; Thu, 15 Feb 96 16:09:26 EST Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 16:09:30 EST To: jitr@postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: sinead's greatest hits promo Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ TO: IBMMAIL.INTERNET COPIES: FROM: USBOIALG AL.GROTE PAPERRAD PHONE:(503)-286-7458 SUBJECT: sinead's greatest hits promo Mars-L Where from and how did you order Sinead's Greatest hits Promo CD? I wanted again to tell you and all responsible that I really appreciate the great work you all have done on the non album trax tapes, and also to thank Paul for his great job of dubbing and getting them out. Also Mars_L amd Mrs. Russell for the home pages, in addition to all the jitr subscribers for the vast amount of help they are all so willing to about Sinead and her music. But most of all I have to thank Sinead for being here. ******************************** DISTRIBUTION ************************* IBMMAIL INTERNET BCISOFFS From jitr-owner Thu Feb 15 14:06:49 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) id OAA03656 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 14:06:49 -0800 Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-951019) with SMTP id OAA03651 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 14:06:43 -0800 Received: from pita.cs.huji.ac.il by cs.huji.ac.il with SMTP id AA12459 (5.67b/HUJI 4.153 for ); Fri, 16 Feb 1996 00:06:21 +0200 From: Yoav Gonen Received: (from yogon@localhost) by pita.cs.huji.ac.il (8.7/1.1c) id AAA24276 for jitr@server.postmodern.com; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 00:05:28 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 00:05:28 +0200 (IST) Message-Id: <199602152205.AAA24276@pita.cs.huji.ac.il> To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: More about "famine".... and "Empire" too. Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~mcb/jitr/ (The list became alive lately... if this will continue I will have to change to digest mode too...) About Famine ------------ I think that the main issue here is the Irish People, and not the English. True, Sinead blames England for the responsibility for the famine in Ireland and the lost of about 1 million of the Irish People ("Through deaths on land or on ships of emigration (to the US of A)"). But Sinead blames the Irish people for the ruin of its culture. She blames the leadership for taking bribe from the English and in return they didn't teach the children Irish. It is not England's fault that the Irish People suffers from child abuse, drugs, old men in the pubs, etc... but the Irish People itself. This is why the song begins with a Jewish melody. Sinead wants to say, I believe: unlike the Jewish People, the Irish People DIDN'T manage to hold its tradition, "...and this is what I think is still hurting me". ...and now only Enya knows Irish.... (just kidding). About "Empire" -------------- Great hit indeed. Marcel and others, what I really want to do is who are "Bomb the Bass", and, why Sinead, at 1995, compares England to a vampire ??!! Bye,, Yoav. From jitr-owner Thu Feb 15 16:59:40 1996 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmo