From jitr-owner Fri Sep 1 11:47:36 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id LAA06580 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 11:47:36 -0700 Received: from postmodern.com (makitso.postmodern.com [199.172.54.66]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id LAA06511 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 11:47:16 -0700 Received: from presto.ig.com ([134.172.2.146]) by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/950522-mcb1) id AA03863; Thu, 31 Aug 95 22:14:16 PDT Received: from arl-img-4.compuserve.com (arl-img-4.compuserve.com [198.4.7.4]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA00945 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 22:14:58 -0700 Received: by arl-img-4.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id SAA29554; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 18:16:37 -0400 Date: 31 Aug 95 18:14:21 EDT From: GARY GUTHRIE <70363.2351@compuserve.com> To: THE OYSTER BAND , DAVID BOWIE , ALICE COOPER , ELP , ENO , MELISSA ETHRIDGE , PINK FLOYD , THE FLU , PETER HAMMILL , JOHN HIATT , KANSAS , MARILLION , "SINEAD O'CONNOR" , QUEENSRYCHE , BLACK SABBATH , DREAM THEATRE , VANGELIS , CATHERINE WHEEL Subject: Opportunity Message-Id: <950831221420_70363.2351_CHV72-1@CompuServe.COM> content-length: 0 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 I'd like to turn you on to a new "umbrella" Internet service that will allow you to showcase yourself to the world for only $50 a month -- all part of a new concept that could drive millions of music fans to see, hear, and be a part of your music. This new site will be a first of its kind, sort of a "get-it-all-cybermall" for musicians and fans alike: Professional services, technicians, publishers, fan clubs*, merchandisers, etc. Could I send you an overview of what I'm talking about? If you would, please e-mail me back at "garyg@vmarketing.com". Regards, Gary Guthrie, President Edinborough Rand Inc. *(special rates for fan club links) From jitr-owner Fri Sep 1 11:47:38 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id LAA06589 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 11:47:38 -0700 Received: from postmodern.com (makitso.postmodern.com [199.172.54.66]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id LAA06558 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 11:47:27 -0700 Received: from remarque.berkeley.edu by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/950522-mcb1) id AA00313; Wed, 30 Aug 95 13:40:58 PDT Received: from localhost by remarque.berkeley.edu (8.6.10/1.31) id NAA07949; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 13:41:26 -0700 Message-Id: <199508302041.NAA07949@remarque.berkeley.edu> To: jitr@server.postmodern.com (Hop in the Brook) Reply-To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: just testing In-Reply-To: Jani Jufonen's message of "Wed, 30 Aug 1995 11:34:41 +0300." Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 13:41:25 -0700 From: Jym Dyer content-length: 0 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 =o= I've picked up the Famine single, which is an import from the UK. It's got two melodic versions of "Famine" and the same version of "All Apologies" that's on the album. <_Jym_> P.S.: Hey, where's the JITR FTP site again? From jitr-owner Fri Sep 1 11:47:38 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id LAA06593 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 11:47:38 -0700 Received: from postmodern.com (makitso.postmodern.com [199.172.54.66]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id LAA06552 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 11:47:26 -0700 Received: from ddi.digital.net by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/950522-mcb1) id AA00544; Wed, 30 Aug 95 15:26:02 PDT Received: (from evil@localhost) by ddi.digital.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA01748; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 18:26:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 18:26:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Miller To: JITR Subject: Import 12" Single List (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE content-length: 0 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Hello. I'm forwarding to you all (the relevant part of) a for sale/bid list which I've come across. Anyway, here you go:=20 olleh. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 05:13:44 -0700 From: *** To: evil@ddi.digital.net Subject: Import 12" Single List=20 I'm gonna be ending the auction in the next day or so, so if you wish to bi= d=20 on any title, please let me know as soon as possible. Thanks again. Take care - Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi Everyone. First, thanks to everyone who participated in my import CD an= d=20 CD-single auction. I probably need to have my head examined, but here we g= o=20 again! This time, it's import 12" singles. I have a huge amount to list b= ut=20 will do a little at a time (mainly for my own sanity!) If you are looking= =20 for something in particular, please let me know. I might have it available= . =20 All singles are in perfect condition. If you need specific information on= a=20 certain title, please e-mail me and I will be happy to send you the=20 information you need. The minimum bid per single is $7. Please bid what= =20 you wish to pay for the single. Unlike the CD auction where I e-mailed pe= ople=20 after each time their bid was topped, I don=92t plan on doing that with thi= s one. It was way too much work. I will let you know how your bid stands in relat= ion=20 to the others before I end it, but please don=92t start at $7 for things yo= u=20 know will never be sold for that. Please don=92t bother bidding lower than= the=20 minimum. And shipping is NOT included in any bids. If you have any questi= ons, please let me know. =20 ARTIST / SONG Sinead O'Connor - Mandinka Sinead O'Connor - Three Babies Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U Sinead O'Connor & Karen Findley - Jump In The River From jitr-owner Fri Sep 1 11:47:30 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id LAA06567 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 11:47:30 -0700 Received: from postmodern.com (makitso.postmodern.com [199.172.54.66]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id LAA06524 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 11:47:19 -0700 Received: from freenet.vancouver.bc.ca by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/950522-mcb1) id AA02365; Thu, 31 Aug 95 13:14:36 PDT Received: (from jvpai@localhost) by freenet.vancouver.bc.ca (8.6.11/8.6.11) id NAA29992; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 13:15:13 -0700 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 13:15:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Pai" Subject: *bad trader alert* To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 0 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 hi all - Sorry to have to do this, but maybe it'll save someone else. Until further notice, trade with amy o'brien email: OBRIENA+aWILMA%HS&E@mcimail.com snail mail: rochester, new york, usa at your own risk! I received an email from her 2 months ago saying that she had received the tape i made for her and thanking me but that her tape would take a while. Since then i've sent her numerous emails and she responded to the first 2 saying that she'd send the tape off in a week - that was 6 weeks ago. Anyway, my last few emails have gone unanswered and so it looks like i've been stiffed. I checked and she's still subscribed to jitr, so she'll see this message along with the rest of you. Hope this helps someone else and thanks to all the honest people on the list who've traded with me! still believing people are basically good - jenny. From jitr-owner Fri Sep 1 11:47:28 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id LAA06556 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 11:47:28 -0700 Received: from postmodern.com (makitso.postmodern.com [199.172.54.66]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id LAA06517 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 11:47:18 -0700 From: X93PODSIAD@wmich.edu Received: from gw.wmich.edu by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/950522-mcb1) id AA03078; Thu, 31 Aug 95 17:59:09 PDT Received: from piglet.cc.wmich.edu (piglet.cc.wmich.edu [141.218.20.105]) by gw.wmich.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA25028 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 20:59:50 -0400 Received: from wmich.edu by wmich.edu (PMDF V5.0-4 #5064) id <01HUQILW4NV48WWMPD@wmich.edu> for jitr@server.postmodern.com; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 20:59:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 20:53:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: apple brightness To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Message-Id: <01HUQJ9XQC9U8WWMPD@wmich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT content-length: 0 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 my question is about the words to 'i am streached on your grave'. i follow most of it and it makes sense to me, but what i always wonder about when i hear it is what is meant by: and if your hands were in mine i'd be sure we'd not sever my apple tree, my brightness i'm wondering if anyone has any ideas as to what this passage means; what the apple tree represents in this context. i'd be happy to hear any insights. thanks. m. From jitr-owner Fri Sep 1 12:23:02 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id MAA06848 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 12:23:02 -0700 Received: from cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (cayman.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.10.63]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id MAA06843 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 12:22:58 -0700 Received: from falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu (falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.181.42]) by cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (8.7.Beta.11/8.7.Beta.11/1.8IUPO) with ESMTP id OAA13721; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 14:22:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu (1.38.110.45/16.2) id AA016643334; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 14:22:14 -0500 Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 14:22:14 -0500 (EST) From: robert anthony conder X-Sender: rconder@falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu To: "J. Pai" Cc: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: a little bit pathetic... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 it's a strange thing, but right now one of my most prized possessions is the piece of tape that came off the back of sinead's set list at the indianapolis lolapolooza. i would have liked to have had the actual list, but some shitbag security guard was actually holding his own little auction for it and i refused to take part in any scheme where someone who didn't give a shit about her was making money off Sinead's name and popularity. (just incase you all are wondering, the list went for $10, and i would like to thank the fellow who was kind enough to give the tape away for free.) peace. -the yard monkey. From jitr-owner Fri Sep 1 16:57:04 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id QAA07404 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 16:57:04 -0700 Received: from postmodern.com (makitso.postmodern.com [199.172.54.66]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id QAA07399 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 16:57:01 -0700 Received: by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/950522-mcb1) id AA05484; Fri, 1 Sep 95 16:55:51 PDT Message-Id: <9509012355.AA05484@postmodern.com> From: mcb@postmodern.com (Michael C. Berch) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 16:55:50 -0700 In-Reply-To: <199508302041.NAA07949@remarque.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: just testing content-length: 238 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Jym writes: > P.S.: Hey, where's the JITR FTP site again? Currently http://remarque.berkeley.edu/~mcb/jitr/ , moving to postmodern.com really soon (there will be a forwarding link of course). -- Michael C. Berch mcb@postmodern.com From jitr-owner Sat Sep 2 07:06:16 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id HAA09892 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 07:06:16 -0700 Received: from presto.ig.com (root@[134.172.2.146]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id HAA09887 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 07:06:13 -0700 Received: from 134.172.2.146 ([134.172.2.16]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA00516 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 07:05:53 -0700 Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk (158.152.1.77) by 134.172.2.146 with SMTP (MailShare 1.0fc5); Sat, 2 Sep 1995 06:10:37 -0800 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id aa29300; 2 Sep 95 14:59 +0100 Received: from rainer.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa28239; 2 Sep 95 14:56 +0100 Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 13:58:26 GMT From: Bernie Rainer Reply-To: bernie@rainer.demon.co.uk Message-Id: <1@rainer.demon.co.uk> To: jump-in-the-river@presto.ig.com X-Mailer: FIMail V0.9d X-User: Alpha Test Version Of FI-Mail, DisWin 1.5C:\WINSOCK\WINDIS Lines: 7 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Bernie Rainer EMail bernie@ | | Mail sent via Demon Internet - Full IP for 10/Month Tel:0181 371 1234 | --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jitr-owner Sun Sep 3 02:40:27 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id CAA12712 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 02:40:27 -0700 Received: from emerald.oz.net (emerald.oz.net [198.68.184.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id CAA12707 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 02:40:24 -0700 Received: from [204.118.241.206] by emerald.oz.net via SMTP (8.6.12/930416.SGI) for id JAA25470; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 09:37:06 GMT Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 02:42:57 -0800 To: jitr@server.postmodern.com From: tbramy@oz.net (Todd Bramy) Subject: gottan idea Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Hi- Since the list seems so dead today, I thought I'd mention a little project I've got wind of. I belong to the Sugarcubes list too and there is a project going on that maybe we could do here. The idea is to set up a tape tree of cover versions created by people on the list. Now, some people are in bands, some people may play an instrument or are learning one, and some people can't play anything at all. Think of it - the possibilities are endless. You could hum a song against a backround of your friends blaying water glasses with chop-sticks. The point is it just doesn't matter too much and to have fun. If several people do it, we get a full tape of everyone's efforts and dupe it off for each other. Sound like fun? Who will be the first to reserve a song? It might be fun to mention why you've chosen it. Or, I could just screw off. Xoxo - Todd "...it would probably be a good idea."" ########################## TODD BRAMY 6556 Division NW Seattle, WA 98117 ########################## From jitr-owner Sun Sep 3 04:11:28 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id EAA12871 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 04:11:28 -0700 Received: from xs1.xs4all.nl (root@xs1.xs4all.nl [193.78.33.42]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id EAA12866 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 04:11:25 -0700 Received: from asd03-12.dial.xs4all.nl (boompie.knoware.nl) by xs1.xs4all.nl with SMTP id AA07636 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 3 Sep 1995 13:10:55 +0200 Message-Id: <199509031110.AA07636@xs1.xs4all.nl> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Von B" Organization: smtp.xs4all.nl To: tbramy@oz.net (Todd Bramy) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 13:12:07 +0000 Subject: Re: gottan idea Reply-To: vonb@xs4all.nl Cc: jitr@server.postmodern.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 > project going on that maybe we could do here. The idea is to set up a tape > tree of cover versions created by people on the list. Now, some people are > in bands, some people may play an instrument or are learning one, and some I've been involved in two such projects. (organising one + starting off another + contributing to both) It's good fun and you get interesting results. I'm in. I'll do "I'm stretched on your grave" Caroline > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- The light that shines twice as bright burns half as long... vonb@xs4all.nl / vonb@knoware.nl / vonb@dds.nl http://www.xs4all.nl/~vonb From jitr-owner Sun Sep 3 08:41:02 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id IAA13075 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 08:41:02 -0700 Received: from un1.satlink.com (root@un1.satlink.com [200.9.212.3]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id IAA13070 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 08:40:55 -0700 Received: from [200.9.212.49] (ppp-21.satlink.com [200.9.212.49]) by un1.satlink.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id MAA31397 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 12:53:34 -0400 X-Sender: nrosner@mail.satlink.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 12:43:10 -0300 To: jitr@server.postmodern.com From: nrosner@satlink.com (Nicolas Rosner) Subject: Covers by people on the list Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 About this idea of distributing cover versions: > ..project going on that maybe we could do here. The idea is to set up a tape > tree of cover versions created by people on the list. Now, some people are > in bands, some people may play an instrument or are learning one, and some.. Although I'm normally quite a MIDI freak & so, I must say I'm quite busy right now, so I don't think I'll be able to send my own one. But it would be very interesting to hear other people's! Go on with the project. I'll help as soon as I can. Nico. ------------------------------------------- "In this house of make believe divided in two like Adam and Eve you pull out and I receive did you think you didn't have to choose?" From jitr-owner Sun Sep 3 10:03:15 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id KAA13237 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 10:03:15 -0700 Received: from smtp.utexas.edu (smtp.utexas.edu [128.83.126.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id KAA13232 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 10:03:12 -0700 Received: from [128.83.113.3] (slip-45-3.ots.utexas.edu [128.83.113.3]) by smtp.utexas.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA02230 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 12:00:49 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 12:00:45 -0500 To: jitr@server.postmodern.com From: eclark@mail.utexas.edu (Erick Clark) Subject: Covers Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Sounds like an intersting idea. If I can scrape the time together I'd like to contribute. Which song I'd do, I really have no idea. -Erick ============================================== Erick Clark AKA Industry <> See My Art and Design Work @ http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~erick/index.html From jitr-owner Sun Sep 3 11:04:52 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id LAA13377 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 11:04:52 -0700 Received: from emerald.oz.net (emerald.oz.net [198.68.184.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id LAA13372 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 11:04:49 -0700 Received: from [204.118.241.206] by emerald.oz.net via SMTP (8.6.12/930416.SGI) for id SAA06195; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 18:01:32 GMT Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 11:07:23 -0800 To: jitr@server.postmodern.com From: tbramy@oz.net (Todd Bramy) Subject: cover tape Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 >I've been involved in two such projects. >(organising one + starting off another + contributing to both) >It's good fun and you get interesting results. > >I'm in. I'll do "I'm stretched on your grave" hey !! out first taker!! Right on. At least we'll have two tracks. I'll take "The Value Of Ignorance". Come on everyone - JUMP IN! ########################## TODD BRAMY 6556 Division NW Seattle, WA 98117 ########################## From jitr-owner Sun Sep 3 11:45:53 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id LAA13453 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 11:45:53 -0700 Received: from relay1.Hawaii.Edu (root@relay1.Hawaii.Edu [128.171.44.53]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id LAA13448 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 11:45:50 -0700 Received: from uhunix4.its.Hawaii.Edu ([128.171.44.54]) by relay1.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <11427(8)>; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 08:45:29 -1000 Received: by uhunix4.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu id <215252>; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 08:45:08 -1000 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 08:44:59 -1000 From: THE RAT To: Jump in the River Subject: Re: cover tape In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 I'd love to do a cover, but I don't know how much time I have. I've got dibs on "Jackie," but if it turns out I can't do it, I'll let it go. :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Haiku: the sound a Japanese poet makes when he sneezes Duran Duran "Gossip" FAQ * Greg Bueno The Zero * The End of the World bueno@Hawaii.edu http://www2.hawaii.edu/~bueno From jitr-owner Sun Sep 3 23:14:29 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id XAA14215 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 23:14:29 -0700 Received: from uiah.fi (root@uiah.fi [128.214.123.8]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id XAA14210 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 23:14:26 -0700 Received: by kyberias.uiah.fi id <52952-3>; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 09:12:02 +0300 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 09:11:59 +0300 (EET DST) From: Jani Juvonen To: Todd Bramy cc: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: gottan idea In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 > project going on that maybe we could do here. The idea is to set up a tape > tree of cover versions created by people on the list. Now, some people are Hmm, sounds like fun, but I don't think I have enough time for it... Basically I could do the most weird instrumental synth-pop version of some song that you'd ever hear :) - I'm not much of a musician really... using my PCs 8-bit sound card... but I think it would take too much time, unless you'd really like to hear something that sounds like it was made in five minutes without even trying to make it good... -Jani Juvonen -----------------------------------------------------------------------* e-mail: and also From jitr-owner Mon Sep 4 06:31:10 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id GAA16350 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 06:31:10 -0700 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id GAA16345 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 06:31:07 -0700 Received: (from evil@localhost) by ddi.digital.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA01100; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 09:30:43 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 09:30:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Miller To: "Sinead O'Connor" Subject: Re: Sugarcubes List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Todd. I e-mailed you this following message, but it got bounced back to me saying that it was undeliverable. Anyway, here it is again... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 09:21:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Miller To: tbramy@oz.net Subject: Re: Sugarcubes List On Sun 3, Sep 1995 Todd Bramy wrote: > Since the list seems so dead today, I thought I'd mention a little project > I've got wind of. I belong to the Sugarcubes list too and... Hm. I was wondering if you could possibly give me the info on how to subscribe to the SUGARCUBES list? Thanks much. sebucragus. christopher miller evil@ddi.digital.net From jitr-owner Mon Sep 4 09:45:22 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id JAA16661 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 09:45:22 -0700 Received: from uiah.fi (root@uiah.fi [128.214.123.8]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id JAA16656 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 09:45:19 -0700 Received: by kyberias.uiah.fi id <53005-4>; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 19:43:13 +0300 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 19:43:06 +0300 (EET DST) From: Jani Juvonen To: Christopher Miller cc: "Sinead O'Connor" Subject: Re: Sugarcubes List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 OK, to anyone out there who is interested about the Sugarcubes... send mail to: blue-eyed-pop-request@morgan.ucs.mun.ca you should then get some more info... btw, I'm not on that list, but I'm considering it... > Hm. I was wondering if you could possibly give me the info on how > to subscribe to the SUGARCUBES list? Thanks much. > > sebucragus. -Jani Juvonen PS. check out the latest Addicted To Noise, and especially the Green Day gig review on the Music News of the World section... (http://www.addict.com/ATN) -----------------------------------------------------------------------* e-mail: and also From jitr-owner Tue Sep 5 20:43:47 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id UAA20430 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 20:43:47 -0700 Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.net [204.50.3.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id UAA20425 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 20:43:40 -0700 From: djkimmel@sentex.net Received: from mail.sentex.net (p25.gallium.sentex.net [204.50.108.25]) by granite.sentex.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA02749 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 00:02:34 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 00:02:34 -0400 Message-Id: <199509060402.AAA02749@granite.sentex.net> X-Sender: djkimmel@sentex.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: jitr-digest V1 #107 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Hello, I would like to reserve the song "The Last Day of Our Acquaintance" if no one else has already. Is there someone who is coordinating all this? thanks :) dave djkimmel@sentex.net ||||||||||||||||| ;---0 0---; ^ \___/ From jitr-owner Wed Sep 6 01:26:33 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id BAA20804 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 01:26:33 -0700 Received: from emerald.oz.net (emerald.oz.net [198.68.184.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id BAA20799 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 01:26:30 -0700 Received: from [204.118.241.206] by emerald.oz.net via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for id BAA06255; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 01:23:05 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 01:29:02 -0800 To: jitr@server.postmodern.com From: tbramy@oz.net (Todd Bramy) Subject: Mr. Co Ordinator Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 >Hello, I would like to reserve the song "The Last Day of Our Acquaintance" >if no one else has already. Is there someone who is coordinating all this? OK Dave, I got ya down. Hi I'm Todd and I'm the co ordinator of the Sinead cover-tape. Unfortunately my server crashed over the weekend and is just now getting to it's feet so I may have missed some dibbs on songs. Dave makes three with "Aquaintence" The other two that are taken (to my knowledge) are: "Value of Ignorance" (me) and "Stretched on your Grave" (Caroline). If you have any questions about how this is being handled, let me know. I'm a novice and sort of figuring it out as I go. Unless someone has better ideas, this is my plan: Record your track and send it to me snail. I'll compile the tracks and make dupes for all those that contributed. Does that sound right? (Caroline?) Hope more people JUMP IN! XOXO TODD ########################## TODD BRAMY 6556 Division NW Seattle, WA 98117 ########################## From jitr-owner Thu Sep 7 11:01:42 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id LAA25926 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 11:01:42 -0700 Received: from postmodern.com (makitso.postmodern.com [199.172.54.66]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id LAA25921 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 11:01:33 -0700 Received: from ping.at (pong.ping.at) by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/950522-mcb1) id AA01183; Thu, 7 Sep 95 10:59:49 PDT Received: from site51.ping.at by ping.at with UUCP id AA02715 (5.67b8/ping for jitr@postmodern.com); Thu, 7 Sep 1995 20:01:08 +0200 Received: by site51.ping.at (CrossPoint v3.02); 07 Sep 1995 19:59:50 +0200 Date: 07 Sep 1995 19:37:00 +0200 From: szendrey@site51.ping.at (Roman Szendrey) To: jitr@postmodern.com Message-Id: <5tRKChZTe6B@site51.ping.at> Subject: new sinead song X-Mailer: XP v3.02 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit content-length: 3377 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 hi! sinead will be on the _HELP_ charity sampler with a new song called "ode to billy joe". the sampler will be relesed on the 9th of september. i've allready listend to the song and it has a slow hip-hop-beat and sinead sounds a little like on "thief of your heart". i like the song!!! here is the rest of the details: __________________________________________________________________________ Tracklisting and Running Order for 'HELP' 1.Oasis and Friends inc Johnny Depp - Fade Away 2.The Boo Radleys - Oh Brother 3.The Stone Roses - Love Spreads 4.Radiohead - Lucky 5.Orbital - Adnan 6.Portishead - Mourning Air (War Child) 7.Massive Attack - Fake the Aroma 8.Suede - Shipbuilding 9.The Charlatans and The Chemical Brothers - Time for Living 10.Stereo MCs - Sweetest Truth 11.Sinead O'Connor - Ode to Billy Joe 12.Levellers - Search Lights 13.Manic Street Preachers - Raindrops Keep Falling on my Head 14.Terrorvision - Tom Petty Loves Veruca Salt 15.The One World Orchestra - The Magnificent 16.Planet 4 Folk Quartet - Message to Crommie 17.Terry Hall and Salad - Dream a Little Dream 18.Neneh Cherry and Trout - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 19.Seymour aka Blur - Eine Kleine Lift Musik 20.Paul Weller and Friends - Come Together __________________________________________________________________________ [Sleeve] Britain's Top Nineties Pop acts came together on September 4 to record an instant album, the proceeds of which will be donated to the charity War Child's immediate aid programme for children in war torn Bosnia. All artists participating are waiving royalties. "Everybody has really got behind the whole project. Pop music seems very frivolous at times, but the best pop music is also about emotion and this album has really got to people" (Tony Crean) The project was conceived by Tony Crean of Go! Discs with musics PR's Terri Hall of Hall or Nothing and Anton Brookes of Bad Moon. Industry support for HELP is building to a level not seen since the Live Aid launches of the mid-eighties. War Child was formed by film makers David Wilson and Bill Leeson in response to the outbreak of the Yugoslavian war in 1991. The charity's patrons include Brian Eno and David Bowie. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- + Release Dates: UK - Saturday September 9 Europe - Monday September 11 Dates for the rest of the world here soon! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Television and Radio Features + Radio One o Three slots a day this week, various times. o Saturday 9 September 12 noon, documentary. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- + Radio Four o Wednesday 6 September, 4.05 pm, Kaleidoscope ---------------------------------------------------------------------- + ITV o Tuesday September 5th, GMTV - 'On The Couch' ---------------------------------------------------------------------- + Channel Four o Sunday September 10th, Documentary roman ------------------------------------------- roman szendrey (szendrey@site51.ping.at) fidonet: 2:310/41.15 compuserve: 100347,612 vienna / austria ------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.02 ## From jitr-owner Thu Sep 7 18:11:18 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id SAA26590 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:11:18 -0700 Received: from chuma.cas.usf.edu (rfernand@chuma.cas.usf.edu [131.247.31.3]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id SAA26585 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:11:14 -0700 Received: (rfernand@localhost) by chuma.cas.usf.edu (8.6.11/8.6.5) id VAA14319; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 21:10:55 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 21:10:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "No guru, no method, no teacher" X-Sender: rfernand@chuma To: jump in the river Subject: Thank You For Hearing Me/The Wall Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 A trip to the used record store netted me a copy of a CD single for "Thank You For Hearing Me". It's got three versions on it, but I'll be damned if I can tell them apart: Radio Edit 4:35 Edit 5:24 Album Version 6:30 The reason I bring this up is because it's labled "For Promotional Use Only. Not For Sale." so you can add it to your discographies if it's not already on there. I also considered buying Roger Waters' live "The Wall" 2 CD album (from that Berlin Wall concert in 1990) but the price put me off temporarily. Sinead sings "Mother" and Van Morrison, another favorite of mine, does another cover. Anyone with opinions on this album? "In my life, this may be my Robert Fernandez favorite insane moment." rfernand@chuma.cas.usf.edu -- John Patrick Shanley, "Women of Manhattan" techno Luddite supreme ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "If I am the Devil's child, I will live then from the Devil." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson From jitr-owner Thu Sep 7 21:59:26 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id VAA26908 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 21:59:26 -0700 Received: from un1.satlink.com (root@un1.satlink.com [200.9.212.3]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id VAA26903 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 21:59:21 -0700 Received: from [200.9.212.51] (ppp-23.satlink.com [200.9.212.51]) by un1.satlink.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id CAA16997 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 02:11:44 -0400 X-Sender: nrosner@mail.satlink.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 02:01:48 -0300 To: jitr@server.postmodern.com From: nrosner@satlink.com (Nicolas Rosner) Subject: Cover tape... Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 > This is my plan: Record your track and send it to me snail. I'll > compile the tracks and make dupes for all those that contributed. > Does that sound right? As I told you before, I won't be able to contribute because of a little extra work that's slaving me to my chair :( However, I would like very much to get a copy of the tape!!! It would be no problem if I have to s-mail you the money for the blank tape (or maybe just a blank tape, hehe). But you have to take into consideration that our mail services (i mean s-mail) are VERY bad down here, so please allow for a couple of weeks' time... Hey, maybe there are others out there who can't contribute but would like to hear the tape.... Go on with the project! If I ever get a little spare time, I'll send in smthg. Thanks very much, Nico. ------------------------------------------- "In this house of make believe divided in two like Adam and Eve you pull out and I receive did you think you didn't have to choose?" From jitr-owner Thu Sep 7 22:53:22 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id WAA26995 for jitr-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 22:53:22 -0700 Received: from postmodern.com (makitso.postmodern.com [199.172.54.66]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id WAA26990 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 22:53:20 -0700 Received: from uiah.fi by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/950522-mcb1) id AA02266; Thu, 7 Sep 95 22:51:34 PDT Received: by kyberias.uiah.fi id <53245-4>; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 08:51:07 +0300 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 08:51:01 +0300 (EET DST) From: Jani Juvonen To: Roman Szendrey Cc: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: new sinead song In-Reply-To: <5tRKChZTe6B@site51.ping.at> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 365 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 > sinead will be on the _HELP_ charity sampler with a new song called "ode > to billy joe". the sampler will be relesed on the 9th of september. i've Billy Joe? Not the Billie Joe of Green Day, by any chance? :) -Jani Juvonen -----------------------------------------------------------------------* e-mail: and also From jitr-owner Fri Sep 8 01:53:28 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id BAA27280 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 01:53:28 -0700 Received: from emerald.oz.net (emerald.oz.net [198.68.184.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id BAA27275 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 01:53:25 -0700 Received: from [204.118.241.206] by emerald.oz.net via SMTP (8.6.12/930416.SGI) for id IAA05710; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 08:50:03 GMT Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 01:56:03 -0800 To: jitr@server.postmodern.com From: tbramy@oz.net (Todd Bramy) Subject: 3 topics (babies?) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 I will respond to THREE notes from the digest: 1):I also considered buying Roger Waters' live "The Wall" 2 CD album (from that >Berlin Wall concert in 1990) but the price put me off temporarily. Sinead >sings "Mother" and Van Morrison, another favorite of mine, does another >cover. Anyone with opinions on this album? I bought this CD for a VERY low price about a year ago and would not have purchased it had it not been so cheap. For those that don't know, I'm not going to give full track listing (E-mail me privately) but to give you an idea: Scorpions: In The Flesh (actually it sounds like just the vocalist and the original Floyd track) Ute Lemper: The Thin Ice Cyndi Lauper: Another Brick in The Wall, Pt. 2 Joni Mitchell: Goodbye Blue Sky Bryan Adams: Young Lust Plus contributions from the likes of Jerry Hall (for god's sake), Paul Carrick, Thomas Dolby, Tim Curry, Albert Finney, and a repulsively pompous dose of Waters. And of course, our Sinead (with THE BAND no less) doing "Mother". This is the only track on this two disc set worth a good goddamn. So...I'm glad to have it, but I wouldn't throw down many yen for it. 2):>> sinead will be on the _HELP_ charity sampler with a new song called "ode >> to billy joe". the sampler will be relesed on the 9th of september. i've >Billy Joe? Not the Billie Joe of Green Day, by any chance? :) Heavens NO!! This is an old embarrassing track from early 70's Americana (as most of the tracks on this new compilation seem to be, suprise suprise) As I remember, it was a hit as the theme song for a popular movie of the time. I'm excited to hear Sinead-baby crack away at it!! 3):As I told you before, I won't be able to contribute because of a little >extra work that's slaving me to my chair :( > >However, I would like very much to get a copy of the tape!!! > >It would be no problem if I have to s-mail you the money for the blank tape >(or maybe just a blank tape, hehe). But you have to take into consideration >that our mail services (i mean s-mail) are VERY bad down here, so please >allow for a couple of weeks' time... > >Hey, maybe there are others out there who can't contribute but would like >to hear the tape.... Here's the deal: This is my first time doing this, and I could be acting the complete bastard on this, but after rolling it around a bit, this: I feel the pay-off for putting in a bit of time recording a track yourself is to be able to hear what everybody else did and to have your contribution included. I don't think it would be fair to dupe off copies for those who haven't participated. (Now- what others do with their copies after they get them is their own business;>) But please note, and I want to make this very clear - I expect this project to be an opportunity for some of you to show off your musical prowess (certainly not me) but I figure most of it will be people who love the music having a good time with it for their own sakes and sakes of others who share that love. BE CREATIVE!! If you don't have much time, don't spend much time. I think I wrote to someone privately something along the lines of "Hum the melody of JACKIE over the sound of you tapping away with chopsticks on a running dishwasher with the dog barking madly in the background" (someone please do this!!) I'm not looking to sign a band (as if I could) I just wanted to present a fun, interactive project I thought we could all take part in. Now - I'm totally open to other opinions. Change my mind if you can, but this is the way I'm feeling now. 'Nuff said. - Todd ########################## TODD BRAMY http://www.oz.net/~tbramy/ 6556 Division NW Seattle, WA 98117 ########################## From jitr-owner Fri Sep 8 06:15:37 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id GAA29031 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 06:15:37 -0700 Received: from inet1.tek.com (inet1.tek.com [134.62.48.21]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id GAA29026 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 06:15:34 -0700 From: montys@mdhost.cse.TEK.COM Received: by inet1.tek.com id ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 06:15:17 -0700 Received: from tektronix.tek.com(134.62.48.24) by inet1 via smap (V1.3) id sma033457; Fri Sep 8 06:15:07 1995 Received: from mdhost.cse.tek.com (tekadm1.cse.tek.com) by tektronix.TEK.COM (4.1/8.2) id AA11881; Fri, 8 Sep 95 06:14:21 PDT Received: from me24.CSE.TEK.COM by mdhost.cse.tek.com (4.1/8.1) id AA13587; Fri, 8 Sep 95 06:14:30 PDT Received: from localhost.TEK by me24.CSE.TEK.COM (4.1/8.0) id AA24500; Fri, 8 Sep 95 06:14:29 PDT Message-Id: <9509081314.AA24500@me24.CSE.TEK.COM> To: jitr@server.postmodern.COM Subject: Re: The Wall Date: Fri, 08 Sep 95 06:14:29 PDT Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.COM Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 > I also considered buying Roger Waters' live "The Wall" 2 CD album (from that > Berlin Wall concert in 1990) but the price put me off temporarily. Sinead > sings "Mother" and Van Morrison, another favorite of mine, does another > cover. Anyone with opinions on this album? Depends on whether you like The Wall or not. I've got the CD, movie soundtrack, live shows and Berlin version. I think they're all great. So if you like The Wall, it's an "interesting diversion". I don't think Waters' production of it in Berlin was all that good. It was a (semi-)star-studded performance that comes off feeling like a bunch of people singing the songs, not a coherent delivery with the impact that can be had from the original album. If all you want it for are the SO and VM songs on CD then buy it 'cuz it's their only source. Those two songs are OK. Not especially earth-moving songs by either one of them. Monty FWIW, it was Sinead's cover of "Mother" that brought her to me. As I listened to my brand new Wall CD I had to stop and find out who was singing with that VOICE! Needless to say I went out and started buying Sinead CDs immediately after. She doesn't do a particularly great version of "Mother", but the clarity and beauty of her voice swept me away. From jitr-owner Fri Sep 8 07:34:10 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id HAA29132 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 07:34:10 -0700 Received: from pat.uio.no (pat.uio.no [129.240.2.50]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id HAA29116; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 07:34:03 -0700 Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <13878-0@pat.uio.no>; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:33:25 +0200 Received: from [129.240.49.197] by aasta.uio.no ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:33:17 +0200 Message-Id: <199509081433.QAA06126@aasta.uio.no> X-Sender: rwlothe@aasta.uio.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:33:46 +0100 To: jitr@server.postmodern.com, jitr-digest@server.postmodern.com From: r.w.lothe@psykologi.uio.no (Rannveig Woll Lothe) Subject: Re: jitr-digest V1 #108 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 At 01:00 06-09-95 -0700, owner-jitr-digest@server.postmodern.com wrote: >jitr-digest Wednesday, 6 September 1995 Volume 01 : Number 108 > >In this issue: > > Re: jitr-digest V1 #107 > >See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the jitr >or jitr-digest mailing lists. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >From: djkimmel@sentex.net >Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 00:02:34 -0400 >Subject: Re: jitr-digest V1 #107 > >Hello, I would like to reserve the song "The Last Day of Our Acquaintance" >if no one else has already. Is there someone who is coordinating all this? > >thanks :) >dave >djkimmel@sentex.net > ||||||||||||||||| > ;---0 0---; > ^ > \___/ > > >------------------------------ > >End of jitr-digest V1 #108 >************************** > >To unsubscribe from jitr-digest, send the following command >in the body of a message to "majordomo@server.postmodern.com": > >unsubscribe jitr-digest > >To subscribe, send the command "subscribe jitr-digest" instead. > >If you want to subscribe or unsubscribe something other than the >account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, >then append that address to the command; for example, to subscribe >"local-jitr": > >subscribe jitr-digest local-jitr@your.domain.net > >A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to >subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "jitr-digest" >in the commands above with "jitr". From jitr-owner Fri Sep 8 07:34:08 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id HAA29128 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 07:34:08 -0700 Received: from mons.uio.no (mons.uio.no [129.240.200.26]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id HAA29114; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 07:33:58 -0700 Received: from ulrik.uio.no by mons.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <19610-0@mons.uio.no>; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:32:46 +0200 Received: from [129.240.49.197] by aasta.uio.no ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:32:38 +0200 Message-Id: <199509081432.QAA05821@aasta.uio.no> X-Sender: rwlothe@aasta.uio.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:33:08 +0100 To: jitr@server.postmodern.com, jitr-digest@server.postmodern.com From: r.w.lothe@psykologi.uio.no (Rannveig Woll Lothe) Subject: Re: jitr-digest V1 #107 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 At 01:00 05-09-95 -0700, owner-jitr-digest@server.postmodern.com wrote: >jitr-digest Tuesday, 5 September 1995 Volume 01 : Number 107 > >In this issue: > > Re: Sugarcubes List > Re: Sugarcubes List > >See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the jitr >or jitr-digest mailing lists. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >From: Christopher Miller >Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 09:30:43 -0400 (EDT) >Subject: Re: Sugarcubes List > >Todd. > > I e-mailed you this following message, but it got bounced back to me >saying that it was undeliverable. Anyway, here it is again... > > >- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 09:21:25 -0400 (EDT) >From: Christopher Miller >To: tbramy@oz.net >Subject: Re: Sugarcubes List > >On Sun 3, Sep 1995 Todd Bramy wrote: > >> Since the list seems so dead today, I thought I'd mention a little project >> I've got wind of. I belong to the Sugarcubes list too and... > > Hm. I was wondering if you could possibly give me the info on how >to subscribe to the SUGARCUBES list? Thanks much. > > sebucragus. > > >christopher miller >evil@ddi.digital.net > > > >------------------------------ > >From: Jani Juvonen >Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 19:43:06 +0300 (EET DST) >Subject: Re: Sugarcubes List > >OK, to anyone out there who is interested about the Sugarcubes... > >send mail to: > >blue-eyed-pop-request@morgan.ucs.mun.ca > >you should then get some more info... btw, I'm not on that list, but I'm >considering it... > >> Hm. I was wondering if you could possibly give me the info on how >> to subscribe to the SUGARCUBES list? Thanks much. >> >> sebucragus. > > >- -Jani Juvonen > >PS. check out the latest Addicted To Noise, and especially the Green Day >gig review on the Music News of the World section... >(http://www.addict.com/ATN) >- -----------------------------------------------------------------------* > e-mail: and also > > >------------------------------ > >End of jitr-digest V1 #107 >************************** > >To unsubscribe from jitr-digest, send the following command >in the body of a message to "majordomo@server.postmodern.com": > >unsubscribe jitr-digest > >To subscribe, send the command "subscribe jitr-digest" instead. > >If you want to subscribe or unsubscribe something other than the >account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, >then append that address to the command; for example, to subscribe >"local-jitr": > >subscribe jitr-digest local-jitr@your.domain.net > >A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to >subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "jitr-digest" >in the commands above with "jitr". From jitr-owner Fri Sep 8 12:13:24 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id MAA29880 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:13:24 -0700 Received: from postmodern.com (makitso.postmodern.com [199.172.54.66]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id MAA29875 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:13:22 -0700 Received: by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/950522-mcb1) id AA03305; Fri, 8 Sep 95 12:11:35 PDT Message-Id: <9509081911.AA03305@postmodern.com> From: mcb@postmodern.com (Michael C. Berch) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:11:34 -0700 In-Reply-To: <5tRKChZTe6B@site51.ping.at> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: new sinead song content-length: 854 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Roman Szendrey writes: > sinead will be on the _HELP_ charity sampler with a new song called "ode > to billy joe". the sampler will be relesed on the 9th of september. i've > allready listend to the song and it has a slow hip-hop-beat and sinead > sounds a little like on "thief of your heart". i like the song!!! Presumably this is not a new song but a cover of the 1960's tragic ballad which was a #1 hit (USA) for Bobbie Gentry? I can just imagine Sinead singing this . "...and some bad news from Choctaw Ridge/Billy Joe McAllister jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge..." Yes, I am old enough to remember that one. It was one of those songs that AM radio stations played 10 times a day for *months*. The HELP disc sounds awesome... will this be released in the US as well on 9 September? -- Michael C. Berch mcb@postmodern.com From jitr-owner Fri Sep 8 16:07:23 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id QAA00452 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:07:23 -0700 Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca (bock.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.214]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id QAA00447 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:07:12 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id RAA14465 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:06:49 -0600 Received: (from jdiep@localhost) by gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA111814; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:06:38 -0600 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:06:38 -0600 (MDT) From: John Diep X-Sender: jdiep@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: she's on tv today, tomorrow Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Hello all you wonderful people. This is just to tell you Sinead's on Muchmusic's Spotlight Today (friday) and tomorrow. Quite a bit of luck I flipped through the TV thingee. Gotta go set my VCR, she's on in...25 minutes. -john From jitr-owner Sun Sep 10 21:38:36 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id VAA06699 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:38:36 -0700 Received: from postmodern.com (makitso.postmodern.com [199.172.54.66]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id VAA06694 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:38:31 -0700 Received: from ds1.gl.umbc.edu by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/950522-mcb1) id AA07138; Sun, 10 Sep 95 21:36:31 PDT Received: from umbc9.umbc.edu (jkim8@f-umbc9.umbc.edu [130.85.3.12]) by ds1.gl.umbc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA00411; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 00:38:09 -0400 Received: (jkim8@localhost) by umbc9.umbc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA16129; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 00:38:09 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 00:38:08 -0400 (EDT) From: kim jai X-Sender: jkim8@umbc9.umbc.edu To: Roman Szendrey Cc: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: for sale In-Reply-To: <5tRKChZTe6B@site51.ping.at> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 593 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Hello, I do not know the nettique for posting my Sinead sales list in this group, but I did get the thumbs up from 2 regular list members Marcel and Roman. However, I just placed the sale list in the rec.music.marketplace and alt.music.alternative newsgroups. If anyone can not access those newsgroups, you may mail me privately and I will bounce you the list. Just to list a couple of the items: Fire on Babylon, Thank you for Hearing me, The Emperor's New Clothes, My special child, Mandinka, & Heroine. Most of the items are promos. Please email me for complete details. JKim From jitr-owner Mon Sep 11 23:11:37 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id XAA10085 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 23:11:37 -0700 Received: from dolphin.upe.ac.za (dolphin.upe.ac.za [192.96.15.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id XAA10080 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 23:11:09 -0700 Received: from orca.upe.ac.za by dolphin.upe.ac.za (sendmail 8.6.12); Tue, 12 Sep 1995 06:10:37 GMT Received: from ORCA/MAILQUEUE by orca.upe.ac.za (Mercury 1.21); 12 Sep 95 08:10:42 +0200 Received: from MAILQUEUE by ORCA (Mercury 1.21); 12 Sep 95 08:10:34 +0200 From: "Mr J J Botha" Organization: University of Port Elizabeth To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 08:10:29 GMT+0200 Subject: joe? X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Mr J J Botha" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.21 Message-ID: <37164E80FE4@orca.upe.ac.za> Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Hi I was wondering if anyone could help me. I urgently need the lyrics to "Just Call Me Joe" and "I want your hands on me". Why are these the only lyrics from "The Lion and the Cobra"? Also, if anyone has a compiled list of all the lyrics to "Am I not your girl?" it would be very appreciated! Thanx jacques ***************************************************** * J.J. Botha * "See how the child reaches* * Inorganic and * out instinctively * * Analytical Chemistry * to feel how fire feels * * U.P.E. * See how the man reaches * * South Africa * out instinctively, for * * * what he cannot have... * * chbjjb@upe.ac.za * The Pull and The Push * * 041-5042103 * of it all" Kate Bush * * * * ***************************************************** From jitr-owner Tue Sep 12 00:58:30 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id AAA10260 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 00:58:30 -0700 Received: from uiah.fi (root@uiah.fi [128.214.123.8]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id AAA10255 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 00:58:13 -0700 Received: by kyberias.uiah.fi id <53359-2>; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 10:55:43 +0300 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 10:55:40 +0300 (EET DST) From: Jani Juvonen To: Mr J J Botha cc: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: joe? In-Reply-To: <37164E80FE4@orca.upe.ac.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 > I was wondering if anyone could help me. I urgently need the lyrics > to "Just Call Me Joe" and "I want your hands on me". Why are these > the only lyrics from "The Lion and the Cobra"? They are not the only lyrics... Didn't Marcel write down quite a few more lyrics than just those? Unfortunately I don't have them myself, so... anyone care to help? I think there's some lyrics on the www pages, but I don't remember the URL right now... wait, Yes I do have it here: http://www.engr.ukans.edu/~jrussell/music/sinead/sinead.html > Also, if anyone has a compiled list of all the lyrics to "Am I not > your girl?" it would be very appreciated! Ain't they in the CD booklet? I think they are in my CD's booklet, but I don't currently have it here, so... check that home page, maybe they are there. -Jani Juvonen ---------------------------------------------------------------------* "Never run in the rain with your socks on." -Billie Joe, Green Day From jitr-owner Tue Sep 12 01:40:07 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id BAA10407 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 01:40:07 -0700 Received: from luggage.tecc.co.uk (luggage.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.129]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id BAA10402 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 01:40:04 -0700 Received: from sat.tecc.co.uk by luggage.tecc.co.uk id aa01133; 12 Sep 95 9:34 BST Received: by sat.tecc.co.uk (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA03822; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 09:34:21 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 09:34:21 +0100 From: Matthias Radestock Message-Id: <9509120834.AA03822@sat.tecc.co.uk> To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: HotPress interview Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 The Irish music journal HotPress did a 2-part interview with Sinead at her London home. Part 1 is in the 6 Sept issue and part 2 is to follow in the next issue. There are some nice shots of Sinead smiling, including the cover. Matthias From jitr-owner Tue Sep 12 03:02:28 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id DAA12084 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 03:02:28 -0700 Received: from uiah.fi (root@uiah.fi [128.214.123.8]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id DAA12079 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 03:01:16 -0700 Received: by kyberias.uiah.fi id <53371-1>; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 12:57:08 +0300 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 12:57:05 +0300 (EET DST) From: Jani Juvonen To: Matthias Radestock cc: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: HotPress interview In-Reply-To: <9509120834.AA03822@sat.tecc.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 On Tue, 12 Sep 1995, Matthias Radestock wrote: > The Irish music journal HotPress did a 2-part interview with Sinead at > her London home. Part 1 is in the 6 Sept issue and part 2 is to follow > in the next issue. There are some nice shots of Sinead smiling, > including the cover. That's nice, but I haven't seen it being sold anywhere here in Finland... lots of other mags/papers from NME to VOX but no HotPress... :( :( :( -Jani Juvonen ---------------------------------------------------------------------* "Never run in the rain with your socks on." -Billie Joe, Green Day From jitr-owner Tue Sep 12 03:12:27 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id DAA12118 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 03:12:27 -0700 Received: from dolphin.upe.ac.za (dolphin.upe.ac.za [192.96.15.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id DAA12113 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 03:12:06 -0700 Received: from orca.upe.ac.za by dolphin.upe.ac.za (sendmail 8.6.12); Tue, 12 Sep 1995 10:11:10 GMT Received: from ORCA/MAILQUEUE by orca.upe.ac.za (Mercury 1.21); 12 Sep 95 12:11:10 +0200 Received: from MAILQUEUE by ORCA (Mercury 1.21); 12 Sep 95 12:10:51 +0200 From: "Mr J J Botha" Organization: University of Port Elizabeth To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 12:10:47 GMT+0200 Subject: Joe? X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Mr J J Botha" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.21 Message-ID: <375663052B1@orca.upe.ac.za> Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 correction: Why are these the only lyrics from "The Lion and the Cobra" that's not available? ***************************************************** * J.J. Botha * "See how the child reaches* * Inorganic and * out instinctively * * Analytical Chemistry * to feel how fire feels * * U.P.E. * See how the man reaches * * South Africa * out instinctively, for * * * what he cannot have... * * chbjjb@upe.ac.za * The Pull and The Push * * 041-5042103 * of it all" Kate Bush * * * * ***************************************************** From jitr-owner Tue Sep 12 04:53:16 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id EAA12300 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 04:53:16 -0700 Received: from relay.Ieunet.ie (relay.Ieunet.ie [192.111.39.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id EAA12295 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 04:53:08 -0700 Received: from aldiscon.ie by relay.Ieunet.ie via Ieunet with UUCP id aa00886; 12 Sep 95 12:47 +0100 Received: from alison by eithne.aldiscon.ie (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22184; Tue, 12 Sep 95 12:30:14 BST Message-Id: <9509121130.AA22184@eithne.aldiscon.ie> Received: by alison (1.37.109.6/16.2) id AA20962; Tue, 12 Sep 95 12:34:58 +0100 From: Eric Mosley Subject: Re: HotPress interview (fwd) To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Date: Tue, 12 Sep 95 12:34:51 BST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 > > On Tue, 12 Sep 1995, Matthias Radestock wrote: > > > The Irish music journal HotPress did a 2-part interview with Sinead at > > her London home. Part 1 is in the 6 Sept issue and part 2 is to follow > > in the next issue. There are some nice shots of Sinead smiling, > > including the cover. > > That's nice, but I haven't seen it being sold anywhere here in Finland... > lots of other mags/papers from NME to VOX but no HotPress... :( :( :( > Never fear, the WEB is here. http://www.iol.ie/hotpress (The are mostly an issue behind) Eric From jitr-owner Tue Sep 12 11:08:03 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id LAA12770 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 11:08:03 -0700 Received: from postmodern.com (makitso.postmodern.com [199.172.54.66]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id LAA12765 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 11:07:56 -0700 Received: from ping.at (pong.ping.at) by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/950522-mcb1) id AA00960; Tue, 12 Sep 95 11:05:45 PDT Received: from site51.ping.at by ping.at with UUCP id AA14523 (5.67b8/ping for jitr@postmodern.com); Tue, 12 Sep 1995 20:07:31 +0200 Received: by site51.ping.at (CrossPoint v3.02); 12 Sep 1995 20:04:19 +0200 Date: 12 Sep 1995 19:35:00 +0200 From: szendrey@site51.ping.at (Roman Szendrey) To: jitr@postmodern.com Message-Id: <5tkjUy1De6B@site51.ping.at> Subject: sinead bootlegs X-Mailer: XP v3.02 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit content-length: 942 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 hi, i'm searching for sinead bootlegs! i know about the following boots: * The Lion In The Cage 1990 * Beautiful Vision, The Hammersmith Odeon, April 24th, 1990 * Live at PinkPop-Festival (Holland), 5th June 1995 * Live in Utrecht (Holland), March 1988 * AHOY, Rotterdam (Holland), 30th October 1990 * Glastonbury Festival, June 1995 * New York City, 26th March 1988 * Nijmegen (Holland), 17th March 1988 * World Music Theatre, Tinley Park, IL,. 8th April 1990 * Live at The Paradise, March 1988 if anyone of you knows about any other taped concerts please e-mail me. btw: it's not necessary to have the boolegs, i'm just collecting this informations because marcel and i want to put that on the discography. tnx! roman ------------------------------------------- roman szendrey (szendrey@site51.ping.at) fidonet: 2:310/41.15 compuserve: 100347,612 vienna / austria ------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.02 ## From jitr-owner Tue Sep 12 11:08:19 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id LAA12777 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 11:08:19 -0700 Received: from postmodern.com (makitso.postmodern.com [199.172.54.66]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id LAA12772 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 11:08:17 -0700 Received: from ping.at (pong.ping.at) by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/950522-mcb1) id AA00967; Tue, 12 Sep 95 11:06:05 PDT Received: from site51.ping.at by ping.at with UUCP id AA14630 (5.67b8/ping for jitr@postmodern.com); Tue, 12 Sep 1995 20:07:57 +0200 Received: by site51.ping.at (CrossPoint v3.02); 12 Sep 1995 20:04:19 +0200 Date: 12 Sep 1995 20:04:00 +0200 From: szendrey@site51.ping.at (Roman Szendrey) To: jitr@postmodern.com Message-Id: <5tkjVnUye6B@site51.ping.at> Subject: IrishPress X-Mailer: XP v3.02 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit content-length: 440 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 hi, would anyone from ireland be so kind to send me those 2 issues of the hotpress with the sinead interview? it's not available here in vienna and i'd love to have it. of course i'd pay for all costs... thanks! roman ------------------------------------------- roman szendrey (szendrey@site51.ping.at) fidonet: 2:310/41.15 compuserve: 100347,612 vienna / austria ------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.02 ## From jitr-owner Tue Sep 12 11:13:35 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id LAA12803 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 11:13:35 -0700 Received: from uiah.fi (root@uiah.fi [128.214.123.8]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id LAA12798 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 11:13:28 -0700 Received: by kyberias.uiah.fi id <53415-3>; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 21:11:07 +0300 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 21:10:59 +0300 (EET DST) From: Jani Juvonen To: Eric Mosley cc: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: HotPress interview (fwd) In-Reply-To: <9509121130.AA22184@eithne.aldiscon.ie> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 > > Never fear, the WEB is here. > http://www.iol.ie/hotpress > > (The are mostly an issue behind) Oh yeah, I had almost forgotten that... but really, WEB pages can never fully replace printed papers/magazines. -Jani Juvonen ---------------------------------------------------------------------* "Never run in the rain with your socks on." -Billie Joe, Green Day From jitr-owner Wed Sep 13 04:06:41 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id EAA15489 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 04:06:41 -0700 Received: from postmodern.com (makitso.postmodern.com [199.172.54.66]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id EAA15484 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 04:06:39 -0700 From: JPHANTOM@delphi.com Received: from bos1h.delphi.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/950522-mcb1) id AA02340; Wed, 13 Sep 95 04:04:27 PDT Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V5.0-4 #10880) id <01HV7VUUJW0G9D66S7@delphi.com> for jitr@postmodern.com; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 07:06:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 07:06:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: HotPress With Sinead To: jitr@postmodern.com Message-Id: <01HV7VUUJW0I9D66S7@delphi.com> X-Vms-To: INTERNET"jitr@postmodern.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT content-length: 195 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Hallo! I would also be interested in making arrangements with some kind Irish soul for copies of the Hotpress issues with Sinead. thank you. Jon Campbell JPhantom@delphi.com Away in California From jitr-owner Wed Sep 13 10:18:50 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id KAA15842 for jitr-outgoing; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 10:18:50 -0700 Received: from LANMAIL.SHU.EDU (lanmail.shu.edu [149.150.2.7]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id KAA15837 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 10:18:48 -0700 Received: from BARDEEN-Message_Server by LANMAIL.SHU.EDU with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 13:15:02 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 13:14:28 -0400 From: "Andrew J. Napoli" To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: FAQ? Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Hello everyone, I'm new to the list, and I'm also a fairly new fan of Sinead, so I was wondering if there is a FAQ that I could read before I start asking 100s of questions that you have all heard before. Also, does anyone know if Hotpress is available in the US? I cant seem to find it, but that doesnt mean that it's not available here. Thanks in advance for all you r help -andrew From jitr-owner Fri Sep 15 08:05:35 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id IAA21777 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:05:35 -0700 Received: from kth.se (kth.se [130.237.72.201]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id IAA21772 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:03:11 -0700 Received: from wing.t.kth.se (wing.t.kth.se [130.237.17.5]) by kth.se (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id QAA09282 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 16:25:23 +0200 Received: from WING_KTH_SE/SpoolDir by wing.t.kth.se (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 15 Sep 95 16:23:13 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by WING_KTH_SE (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 15 Sep 95 16:22:54 +0100 From: "LUNDELL STEFAN 700326" Organization: KTH, Flyg To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 16:22:47 +0200 Subject: Take My Hand, lyrics + Hot Press X-Confirm-Reading-To: "LUNDELL STEFAN 700326" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-ID: <260DEEB41B2@wing.t.kth.se> Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Hello everybody, I am quite new to this list, although I have been a fan of Sinead for a few years. I collect her records, and a little more than year ago, by sheer luck, I found the In Tua Nua single for Take My Hand, the first Sinead song ever to be released on record. Unfortunately Sinead is not present on this recording, although it was she who wrote the lyrics and some of the melody. She did record it as a demo together with In Tua Nua in 1983, but I am quite sure that version has never been officially released. Maybe you already have the lyrics to the song, I do not know since I am quite new here, but I have written them down at the end of this message, and I hope you will find them interesting. If anybody has any questions, feel free to ask. I wonder also if there is anybody who could help me to find the latest issue of Hot Press, with the Sinead interview and her on the cover. I would be most grateful. Best wishes, Stefan TAKE MY HAND Lonely man Tired man Play the blues Sing while you have nothing to lose Silver moon Weeping moon Cry for me Show me your soul sympathy You have done all you can Live no more Sigh as you walk through the door Take my hand Take my hand Lie on sand Rest on sand Close your eyes Slowly close Go to sleep Sleep while you've dreams to keep You have meant all you can Live no more Sigh as you walk through the door Take my hand Take my hand Lie on sand Rest on sand Windy shore Crying But don't cry no more From jitr-owner Fri Sep 15 10:34:13 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id KAA21977 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 10:34:13 -0700 Received: from zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk (zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk [132.146.5.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id KAA21972 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 10:34:10 -0700 Received: from burns.empire.bt.co.uk by zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 15 Sep 1995 18:33:07 +0100 Message-Id: <25611.9509151732@burns.empire.bt.co.uk> Received: from philip_katz (katzp.b55one.bt.co.uk) by burns.empire.bt.co.uk; Fri, 15 Sep 95 18:32:41 BST Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Philip Katz Organization: British Telecommunications plc To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 18:33:00 BST-1 Subject: Re: Take My Hand, lyrics + Hot Press Reply-To: KatzPM@empire.bt.co.uk Cc: LUNDELL STEFAN 700326 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 LUNDELL STEFAN 700326 said (at 16:22 on 15 Sep 95): > > Maybe you already have the lyrics to the song, I do not know since > I am quite new here, but I have written them down at the end of this > message, and I hope you will find them interesting. If anybody has any > questions, feel free to ask. Isn't there a Copyright issue about publishing song lyrics without the permission of the author? It's not very fair on Sinead and may well be illegal. :: Philip Katz :: 'phone : +44 1473 647114 :: :: BT N&S IT Security Unit, B55/G29, :: fax : +44 1473 644304 :: :: BT Laboratories, Martlesham Heath :: e-mail : KatzPM@empire.bt.co.uk :: :: Ipswich, Suffolk, England IP5 7RE :: :: From jitr-owner Fri Sep 15 11:11:53 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id LAA22080 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 11:11:53 -0700 Received: from smtp.utexas.edu (smtp.utexas.edu [128.83.126.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id LAA22074 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 11:11:51 -0700 Received: from [128.83.204.38] (slip-3-6.ots.utexas.edu [128.83.204.38]) by smtp.utexas.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA22822 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:08:22 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:08:23 -0500 To: jitr@server.postmodern.com From: eclark@mail.utexas.edu (Erick Clark) Subject: Re: Take My Hand, lyrics + Hot Press Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Philip Katz said on Sept 15: > Isn't there a Copyright issue about publishing song lyrics without the >permission of the author? > > It's not very fair on Sinead and may well be illegal. YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME! It may be illegal? Who cares! Putting some lyrics on the mailing list, especially one as hard to find as those of "Take my Hand", is not going to cause anyone to loose money. Some how I don't think Sinead would want to sue anyone for posting any of her lyrics here on the list. Lighten up Katz. -Erick ============================================== Erick Clark AKA Industry <> See My Art and Design Work @ http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~erick/index.html From jitr-owner Fri Sep 15 12:08:05 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id MAA22317 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 12:08:05 -0700 Received: from ping.at (uucp@pong.ping.at [193.81.14.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id MAA22312 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 12:08:00 -0700 Received: from site51.ping.at by ping.at with UUCP id AA19520 (5.67b8/ping for jitr@server.postmodern.com); Fri, 15 Sep 1995 21:07:39 +0200 Received: by site51.ping.at (CrossPoint v3.02); 15 Sep 1995 21:06:37 +0200 Date: 15 Sep 1995 21:06:00 +0200 From: szendrey@site51.ping.at (Roman Szendrey) To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Message-Id: <5twtP9bDe6B@site51.ping.at> References: <25611.9509151732@burns.empire.bt.co.uk> Subject: Re: Take My Hand, lyrics + Hot Press X-Mailer: XP v3.02 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Hello Philip, 15.09.95 / 18:33: You wrote in /JITR about "Re: Take My Hand, lyrics + Hot Press": > LUNDELL STEFAN 700326 said (at 16:22 on 15 Sep 95): > > > > Maybe you already have the lyrics to the song, I do not know since > > I am quite new here, but I have written them down at the end of this > > message, and I hope you will find them interesting. If anybody has any > > questions, feel free to ask. > > Isn't there a Copyright issue about publishing song lyrics without the > permission of the author? i hope you don't mean that serious. marcel and me posted lot's of lyrics on the list and nobody complained. the use of the list is to spread information about sinead to the people who are interested in. we wouldn't be able to send newspaper-articles, song-lyrics and things like that about sinead anymore. is that what you want? if we would publish them in a newspaper we would need the permission of the author but this is just a mail-list. so if you'd post it to some of your friends i don't think there is a need to ask the author. > It's not very fair on Sinead and may well be illegal. i don't think that sinead would care about that. have you ever read any newsgroups or visited FTP-server on the net? they are full of lyrics. well, at least *i* was happy to get "take my hand", so thanks to stefan! roman ------------------------------------------- roman szendrey (szendrey@site51.ping.at) fidonet: 2:310/41.15 compuserve: 100347,612 vienna / austria ------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.02 ## From jitr-owner Fri Sep 15 14:26:24 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id OAA22638 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 14:26:24 -0700 Received: from ibmmail.COM (ibmmail.com [199.171.26.3]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id OAA22633 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 14:26:21 -0700 From: usboifgb@ibmmail.com Message-Id: <199509152126.OAA22633@server.postmodern.com> Received: from ibmmail by ibmmail.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9310; Fri, 15 Sep 95 17:25:50 EDT Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 17:29:32 EDT To: jitr@server.postmodern.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Take My Hand Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 TO: IBMMAIL.INTERNET COPIES: FROM: USBOIFGB AL.GROTE PAPERRAD PHONE:(503)-286-7458 SUBJECT: Take My Hand This is my first attempt at this, just subscribed yesterday. I have spent years trying to find anything I could about Sinead's very first tape. I knew all the perticulars on it but was quite sure the possability of ever getting the lyrics or even maybe a copy of the tape was more than I could hope for. The games at foot and I very much like to converse with anyone who could help me obtain an copy. I have a very extensive library of Sineads music etc. Who Knows, I may yet be fortunate enough to get a copy of Sineads Live at the Paradise live broadcast on WBCN-FM which as many know was Sinead's first Boston appearance at the Paradise Rock Club. Songs she sung where- Jackie, Mandinka, Never Get Old, Just like you said it would be,Jeruslem, Smith's Song, Just call me Joe and I want your hands ******************************** DISTRIBUTION ************************* IBMMAIL INTERNET BCISOFFS From jitr-owner Fri Sep 15 17:51:39 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id RAA23027 for jitr-outgoing; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 17:51:39 -0700 Received: from mail.fonorola.net (mail.fonorola.net [198.53.64.8]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id RAA23022 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 17:51:36 -0700 Received: from infoweb.magi.com by mail.fonorola.net with SMTP (5.65/25-eef) id AA08343; Fri, 15 Sep 95 20:46:41 -0400 Received: from magi05p16.magi.com by magi.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA23201; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 20:51:08 -0400 Message-Id: <9509160051.AA23201@magi.com> X-Sender: mlalonde@magi.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 20:45:30 -0400 To: KatzPM@empire.bt.co.uk From: mlalonde@magi.com (Michel R. Lalonde) Subject: Re: Take My Hand, lyrics + Hot Press Cc: jitr@server.postmodern.com Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 >LUNDELL STEFAN 700326 said (at 16:22 on 15 Sep 95): >> >> Maybe you already have the lyrics to the song, I do not know since >> I am quite new here, but I have written them down at the end of this >> message, and I hope you will find them interesting. If anybody has any >> questions, feel free to ask. > > Isn't there a Copyright issue about publishing song lyrics without the >permission of the author? > > It's not very fair on Sinead and may well be illegal. > Hello! Earth to Katz? Earth to Katz? Hope you lighten up soon! Going through life with such a disposition must be ... how shall I put it? ... kind of anal retentive? :-) I guess you should define (from a legal point of view, if that's your slant) "publishing"? You'll have the answer to your question. And Stefan, thanks for the post! I've never heard the song but the words are something else! Mike. From jitr-owner Sat Sep 16 05:42:33 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id FAA25366 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 05:42:33 -0700 Received: from kth.se (kth.se [130.237.72.201]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id FAA25361 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 05:42:25 -0700 Received: from wing.t.kth.se (wing.t.kth.se [130.237.17.5]) by kth.se (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id OAA28451 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 14:42:04 +0200 Received: from WING_KTH_SE/SpoolDir by wing.t.kth.se (Mercury 1.12); Sat, 16 Sep 95 14:39:48 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by WING_KTH_SE (Mercury 1.12); Sat, 16 Sep 95 14:39:26 +0100 From: "LUNDELL STEFAN 700326" Organization: KTH, Flyg To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 14:39:19 +0200 Subject: Re: Take My Hand, lyrics X-Confirm-Reading-To: "LUNDELL STEFAN 700326" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-ID: <27726205C70@wing.t.kth.se> Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Hello, I am really sorry if I have upset anybody by sending in the lyrics to Take My Hand. It was not at all my intention to make anyone angry. I thought it was OK to send in lyrics to the mailing list, since I have seen other people do the same earlier on. Not mentioning all the home pages for different artists containing the lyrics to their songs. I do not think that all of them have written permissions. If what I wrote is unfair to Sinead, I deeply regret what I have done. If anybody has complaints, and it includes Philip Katz, please write to me in person, and we could discuss it privately. I do not consider myself a criminal, so I really do not want to have a public trial on this mailing list. Stefan From jitr-owner Sat Sep 16 10:55:09 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id KAA25696 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 10:55:09 -0700 Received: from uiah.fi (root@uiah.fi [128.214.123.8]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id KAA25691 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 10:55:03 -0700 Received: by kyberias.uiah.fi id <53622-4>; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 20:52:55 +0300 Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 20:52:53 +0300 (EET DST) From: Jani Juvonen To: LUNDELL STEFAN 700326 cc: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: Take My Hand, lyrics In-Reply-To: <27726205C70@wing.t.kth.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 > to me in person, and we could discuss it privately. I do not consider > myself a criminal, so I really do not want to have a public trial on > this mailing list. It is not illegal to give away those lyrics, as long as you don't want money for it. Hell, everyone can get those lyrics by just listening to the songs, and if someone writes them down, and lets someone else read them then, that can't possibly be criminal. In fact, I believe Sinead herself would only be pleased that someone who finds it difficult to understand her vocals, can then read them, and that way also understand them. -Jani Juvonen ---------------------------------------------------------------------* "Never run in the rain with your socks on." -Billie Joe, Green Day From jitr-owner Sat Sep 16 19:04:35 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id TAA26372 for jitr-outgoing; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 19:04:35 -0700 Received: from ddi.digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id TAA26367 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 19:04:29 -0700 Received: (from evil@localhost) by ddi.digital.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA25633; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 22:04:15 -0400 Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 22:04:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Miller To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: SINEAD collection for sale. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 >>> SINEAD O'CONNOR COLLECTION FOR SALE <<< ----------------------------------- I'm putting up almost half of my Sinead O'Connor collection up for sale. Since I'm a collector, all items are in great shape - any significant flaws will be disclosed before a sale or trade is finalized. Please make all bids in US funds. Postage will be included in any orders over $30. Overseas orders over $50, and it will be covered as well. Otherwise, I will let you know about the postage cost. Bidding will begin today (September 16th), and will end on Saturday, September the 30th. On Saturday the 23rd I will post all high bids to this list . Then on the 28th and 29th I will give all bidders a chance to up/finalize their offers. Finally on October 1st, I will get in touch with those people with the highest bids. As far as bids go, I am more interested in trade for releases from the following artists (as well as all side-projects, aliases, remixes of other bands' stuff): THE APHEX TWIN, ATOM HEART/LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS, COIL, DEPTH CHARGE, GOD IS MY CO-PILOT, GREATER THAN ONE, HIS NAME IS ALIVE, LOCUST, MEAT BEAT MANIFESTO/PERENNIAL DIVIDE, and SKINNY PUPPY. If you have other stuff you want to trade, it won't hurt to ask! Questions and Reservations: evil@ddi.digital.net >> ALBUMS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "AM I NOT YOUR GIRL?" lp UK (CHEN 26/0946 3 21952 1 0) "AM I NOT YOUR GIRL?" cassette ARGENTINA (3 21952 4 CJ - ENSIGN ARGENTINA) ... Argentinian pressing of this album ... all of the song titles (in the track listing) are in spanish "AM I NOT YOUR GIRL? CD SAMPLER" promo-only cd US (DPRO-05495 - CHRYSALIS) ... 5-track promo-only sampler of "Am I Not Your Girl" album >> SINGLES ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "DON'T CRY FOR ME ARGENTINA" 7" UK (ENY 657/0946 3 23921 7 6) "DON'T CRY FOR ME ARGENTINA CD1" cd single UK (CDENYS 657/0946 3 23922 2 0 - ENSIGN) ... part 1 of a 2-cd set "DON'T CRY FOR ME ARGENTINA CD2" cd single UK (CDENY 657/0946 3 23921 2 1 - ENSIGN) ... part 2 of a 2-cd set "DON'T CRY FOR ME ARGENTINA" promo cd single US (DPRO-04656 - CHRYSALIS/ENSIGN) ... only way released in US ... still in original shrink-wrap "FIRE ON BABYLON" promo cd single US (DPRO 19881 - ENSIGN/CHRYSALIS) ... first US promo cd single for this release "FIRE ON BABYLON" promo cd single US (DPRO 19908 - ENSIGN/CHRYSALIS) ... second US promo cd single for this release ... comes with circular mustard yellow sleeve sticker and no picture sleeve "FIRE ON BABYLON" cd single US (7243 8 58259 2 7 - ENSIGN/CHRYSALIS) "NOTHING COMPARES 2 U" cassingle US (4JM 23488 - ENSIGN / CHRYSALIS) "NOTHING COMPARES 2 U" promo-only cd single US (DPRO 23488 - ENSIGN / CHRYSALIS) ... only way this was released as a cd single in the US "SUCCESS HAS MADE A FAILURE OF OUR HOME" 7" UK (ENY 656/0946 3 23898 7 9 - ENSIGN) "SUCCESS HAS MADE A FAILURE OF OUR HOME" jukebox-only 7" US (S7-57993 - CEMA) ... exclusively pressed for jukebox use ... only way released as 7" in the US "SUCCESS HAS MADE A FAILURE OF OUR HOME" cassingle US (4KM-24802 - CHRYSALIS) ... still in original shrinkwrap with sleeve sticker "SUCCESS HAS MADE A FAILURE OF OUR HOME" promo cd single UK (ENYCDW 656 - ENSIGN) ... promo cd single in card sleeve "SUCCESS HAS MADE A FAILURE OF OUR HOME CD1" cd single UK (ENYCDS 656/0946 3 23899 2 3 - ENSIGN) ... part 1 of a 2-cd set ... comes with mock paper/cardstock 'cd' "SUCCESS HAS MADE A FAILURE OF OUR HOME CD2" cd single UK (ENYCDS 656/0946 3 23898 2 4 - ENSIGN) ... part 2 of a 2-cd set "SUCCESS HAS MADE A FAILURE OF OUR HOME" cd single US (F2-24803 - ENSIGN/CHRYSALIS) ... still in original shrinkwrap & sleeve sticker >> COMPILATIONS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THE GLORY OF GERSHWIN cd US (314 526 091-2 - MERCURY) ... features "My Man's Gone Now" TWO ROOMS - CELEBRATING THE SONGS OF ELTON JOHN & BERNIE TAUPIN cd US (845 750-2 - POLYDOR) ... features "Sacrifice" >> DUETS & SPECIAL APPEARANCES ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "BE STILL" - PEACE TOGETHER cd single UK (PCECD 1 - ISLAND) "DON'T GIVE UP" - WILLIE NELSON with SINEAD O'CONNOR cd single AUSTRIA (659350 2 - COLUMBIA) "45 RPM" - MARXMAN promo-only cd US (31458 8271 2 - A&M RECORDS) ... promotional-only sampler features the album version of "Ship Ahoy" "GOODBYE JUMBO" - WORLD PARTY promo cd US (DPRO 21654 - CHRYSALIS/ENSIGN) ... promotional version of this album, comes in digipak packaging with very unique picture sleeve (totally different from the commercial release) ... feat. "Sweet Soul Dream" "KINGDOM OF RAIN" - THE THE promo-only 12" HOLLAND (SAMP 1351 - EPIC/SOME BIZARRE) ... this was released as a promotional-only single ... custom picture sleeve "PEACE TOGETHER" - PEACE TOGETHER cd US (314-518 063-2 - ISLAND) ... feat. album version of "Be Still" and "Religious Persuasion" "PRIVATE REVOLUTION" - WORLD PARTY cd US (VK 41552 - CHRYSALIS) ... feat. "Hawaiian Island World" "RISING ABOVE BEDLAM" - JAH WOBBLE'S INVADERS OF THE HEART cd US (7 82386-2 - ATLANTIC) ... feat. "Visions Of You" and "Sweet Divinity" "SHIP AHOY" - MARXMAN 12" UK (TLKX 30 - TALKIN LOUD) ... first pressing / out of print "SHIP AHOY" - MARXMAN cd single UK (TLKCD 30 - TALKIN LOUD) ... first pressing / out of print "VISIONS OF YOU" - JAH WOBBLE'S INVADERS OF THE HEART 12" UK (OVAL 103-T - OVAL/EAST WEST) "VISIONS OF YOU" - JAH WOBBLE'S INVADERS OF THE HEART cd single UK (OVAL 103CD - OVAL/EAST WEST) "VOYAGE" - CHRISTY MOORE cd US (7 82034-2 - ATLANTIC) ... features "The Mad Lady And Me" and "Middle Of The Island" "YOU MADE ME THE THIEF OF YOUR HEART / IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER" - SINEAD O'CONNOR / BONO & GAVIN FRIDAY promo-only 12" US (PR12 6824-1 - ISLAND) ... promotional release of this split single >> BOOTLEGS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "BEAUTIFUL VISION" bootleg cd ITALY (KTS032 - KTS RECORDS) ... live at The Hammersmith Odeon on April 24th, 1990 ... 12 tracks "THE LION IN THE CAGE" bootleg cd ITALY (RPCD1016 - RED PHANTOM) ... live bootleg cd of 1990 tour ... 14 tracks - incl. unreleased "Donald O" and "Black Is The Colour" ... full-color 6 page booklet and professionally printed picture sleeve and disc "LIVE USA" bootleg cd GER (IMT 900.090 - IMTRAT) ... live bootleg cd of 1990 tour ... 12 tracks "LONDON 06.03.88" bootleg cassette GER (CCS:1469 - COLLECTORS CASSETTE SERIES) ... this is actually an audio bootleg of "Value Of Ignorance" ... comes in its own photocopied picture sleeve ... professionally reproduced/packaged From jitr-owner Sun Sep 17 12:07:24 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id MAA29153 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 17 Sep 1995 12:07:24 -0700 Received: from postmodern.com (makitso.postmodern.com [199.172.54.66]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id MAA29148 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 1995 12:07:21 -0700 Received: from ping.at (pong.ping.at) by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/950522-mcb1) id AA09559; Sun, 17 Sep 95 12:04:40 PDT Received: from site51.ping.at by ping.at with UUCP id AA27831 (5.67b8/ping for jitr@postmodern.com); Sun, 17 Sep 1995 21:06:53 +0200 Received: by site51.ping.at (CrossPoint v3.02); 17 Sep 1995 21:05:49 +0200 Date: 17 Sep 1995 21:03:00 +0200 From: szendrey@site51.ping.at (Roman Szendrey) To: jitr@postmodern.com Message-Id: <5u07jbCye6B@site51.ping.at> Subject: Sinead collects money... X-Mailer: XP v3.02 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit content-length: 839 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 from MTV-News: Pasers by couldn't believe their eyes in Dublin, Ireland when controversial singer Sinead O'Connor took to the streets and asked them for money. However, it was all in a good cause as she was collecting for AWARE, the organisation that helps fight depression. Dressed all in black and wearing a baseball cap, O'Connor stood at the top of busy Grafton Street for several hours, collection box in hand. Sinead who has suffered from depression in the past and is expecting a baby in February revealed she intends to bring up the child in London where she has lived for the last 10 years. roman ------------------------------------------- roman szendrey (szendrey@site51.ping.at) fidonet: 2:310/41.15 compuserve: 100347,612 vienna / austria ------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.02 ## From jitr-owner Sun Sep 17 18:46:38 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id SAA29983 for jitr-outgoing; Sun, 17 Sep 1995 18:46:38 -0700 Received: from postmodern.com (makitso.postmodern.com [199.172.54.66]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id SAA29978 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 1995 18:46:36 -0700 Received: from chuma.cas.usf.edu by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/950522-mcb1) id AA10028; Sun, 17 Sep 95 18:43:59 PDT Received: (rfernand@localhost) by chuma.cas.usf.edu (8.6.11/8.6.5) id VAA00913; Sun, 17 Sep 1995 21:46:19 -0400 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 21:46:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "No guru, no method, no teacher" X-Sender: rfernand@chuma To: Roman Szendrey Cc: jitr@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Sinead collects money... In-Reply-To: <5u07jbCye6B@site51.ping.at> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII content-length: 608 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 On 17 Sep 1995, Roman Szendrey wrote: > from MTV-News: [...] > intends to bring up the child in London where she has lived for the last > 10 years. Didn't she live in the US for a while? I thought that she moved back to London sometime after the Gulf War. "In my life, this may be my Robert Fernandez favorite insane moment." rfernand@chuma.cas.usf.edu -- John Patrick Shanley, "Women of Manhattan" techno Luddite supreme ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "If I am the Devil's child, I will live then from the Devil." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson From jitr-owner Mon Sep 18 06:19:11 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id GAA02386 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 06:19:11 -0700 Received: from neptunus.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.7.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id GAA02381 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 06:19:02 -0700 Received: from pi-user.pi.net (Nij36.pi.net [145.220.200.36]) by neptunus.pi.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA08000 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 15:18:35 +0200 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 15:18:35 +0200 Message-Id: <199509181318.PAA08000@neptunus.pi.net> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.pi.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jitr@server.postmodern.com From: bobbink@pi.net (Marcel Bobbink) Subject: Re: jitr-digest V1 #116 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Hello, Thanx STEFAN for the lyrics of Take My Hand. I like it, though I don't think the song is really good (have it on tape), but collectiong every thing means also collecting this song !! The lyrics are good. Don't care about copyright or whatever :-) Nobody will get you on that (they didn't with me :-) and I already posted about 40 or so, and will start posting again in a few days. I just came back from my holliday in Turkey. So it takes some days to read and answer al the E-mail and install Windows 95. But when that all is done I will start posting and transcribing again. You lyrics helped me, saves me one evening of work. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'VE BEEN TOLD, PUSSY'S GOT YOU IN CONTROL MARS-L------------ALL THAT GLITTERS AIN'T GOLD-----------MARS-L bobbink@pi.net-----------FREE THE MUSIC----------bobbink@pi.net From jitr-owner Mon Sep 18 06:21:07 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id GAA02403 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 06:21:07 -0700 Received: from neptunus.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.7.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id GAA02398 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 06:21:00 -0700 Received: from pi-user.pi.net (Nij36.pi.net [145.220.200.36]) by neptunus.pi.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA08103 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 15:20:43 +0200 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 15:20:43 +0200 Message-Id: <199509181320.PAA08103@neptunus.pi.net> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.pi.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jitr@server.postmodern.com From: bobbink@pi.net (Marcel Bobbink) Subject: Re: jitr-digest V1 #113 Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Hello, Someone ( :-) ) wrote; >I was wondering if anyone could help me. I urgently need the lyrics >to "Just Call Me Joe" and "I want your hands on me". Why are these >the only lyrics from "The Lion and the Cobra"? > >Also, if anyone has a compiled list of all the lyrics to "Am I not >your girl?" it would be very appreciated! There are more (if not all), if you still don't have them let me know..... even if you already have then also let me know, cause mine are better (corrected)....the the ones you can find on the www-pages. Only Just Call Me Joe isn't complete at all...... The second part is still incomplete and very difficult. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'VE BEEN TOLD, PUSSY'S GOT YOU IN CONTROL MARS-L------------ALL THAT GLITTERS AIN'T GOLD-----------MARS-L bobbink@pi.net-----------FREE THE MUSIC----------bobbink@pi.net From jitr-owner Mon Sep 18 07:44:31 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id HAA02539 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 07:44:31 -0700 Received: from kth.se (kth.se [130.237.72.201]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id HAA02534 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 07:44:26 -0700 Received: from wing.t.kth.se (wing.t.kth.se [130.237.17.5]) by kth.se (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id QAA24379 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 16:44:09 +0200 Received: from WING_KTH_SE/SpoolDir by wing.t.kth.se (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 18 Sep 95 16:41:52 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by WING_KTH_SE (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 18 Sep 95 16:41:29 +0100 From: "LUNDELL STEFAN 700326" Organization: KTH, Flyg To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 16:41:28 +0200 Subject: Piece of information X-Confirm-Reading-To: "LUNDELL STEFAN 700326" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-ID: <2A930482A6E@wing.t.kth.se> Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Hello everyone, I recently heard on MTV that it is confirmed that Sinead will contribute to a compilation album featuring female artists, called Ain't Nothing But A She. It is said to be released some time early next year. Besides, is there anybody who could help me to find the recent Hot Press issue, with Sinead on the cover? I would be really, really grateful. Of course I would pay for all expenses. All the best, Stefan From jitr-owner Mon Sep 18 14:25:08 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id OAA03112 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 14:25:08 -0700 Received: from neptunus.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.7.9]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id OAA03107 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 14:25:04 -0700 Received: from pi-user.pi.net (Nij24.pi.net [145.220.200.24]) by neptunus.pi.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id XAA18890 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 23:24:42 +0200 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 23:24:42 +0200 Message-Id: <199509182124.XAA18890@neptunus.pi.net> X-Sender: bobbink@pop.pi.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Sinead Mailing List From: bobbink@pi.net (Marcel Bobbink) Subject: Sinead also listened to James Brown. Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Hello, Listen to Funky Drummer Bonus Beat Reprise (2.54) from James Brown. You can find this song on a remix cd called The Jungle Groove (polydor, 829 624-2) If you hear that you hear exactly the instrumental beat-version of "I Am streched on your grave". Only this is the original version of the music. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'VE BEEN TOLD, PUSSY'S GOT YOU IN CONTROL MARS-L------------ALL THAT GLITTERS AIN'T GOLD-----------MARS-L bobbink@pi.net-----------FREE THE MUSIC----------bobbink@pi.net From jitr-owner Mon Sep 18 16:59:52 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id QAA03355 for jitr-outgoing; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 16:59:52 -0700 Received: from remarque.berkeley.edu (remarque.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.152.164]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id QAA03350 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 16:59:49 -0700 Received: from localhost by remarque.berkeley.edu (8.6.10/1.31) id QAA28591; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 16:59:29 -0700 Message-Id: <199509182359.QAA28591@remarque.berkeley.edu> To: jitr@server.postmodern.com (Hop in the Brook) Reply-to: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: Sinead also listened to James Brown. In-reply-to: Marcel Bobbink's message of "Mon, 18 Sep 1995 23:24:42 +0200." <199509182124.XAA18890@neptunus.pi.net> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 16:59:27 -0700 From: Jym Dyer Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 =o= Uh, yeah. That break from "Funky Drummer" is one of the most sampled fractions of a second there is. <_Jym_> From jitr-owner Tue Sep 19 04:40:27 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id EAA05527 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 04:40:27 -0700 Received: from zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk (zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk [132.146.5.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id EAA05522 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 04:40:23 -0700 Received: from burns.empire.bt.co.uk by zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 19 Sep 1995 12:38:48 +0100 Message-Id: <27695.9509191138@burns.empire.bt.co.uk> Received: from by burns.empire.bt.co.uk; Tue, 19 Sep 95 12:38:21 BST Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Philip Katz Organization: British Telecommunications plc To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 12:38:38 BST-1 Subject: Famine promo CD single Reply-To: KatzPM@empire.bt.co.uk Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 On Saturday I acquired a promo copy of the current single. For the discographers, the tracks are: 1. "famine" - John Reynolds 7" edit 2. All Apologies Chrysalis CDENYDJ663 Of particular interest to JITR subscribers is that on the back is a sticker which says: "Sinead O'Connor releases her double A-Side single "Famine" and her interpretation of Nirvana's classic "All Apologies" on 14 August. Sinead is now set up on the Internet, her Web site address is HTTP://WWW.SUNBATHER.COM/SINEAD/ For further info: Vanessa Gordon 1071 605 7010" :: Philip Katz :: 'phone : +44 1473 647114 :: :: BT N&S IT Security Unit, B55/G29, :: fax : +44 1473 644304 :: :: BT Laboratories, Martlesham Heath :: e-mail : KatzPM@empire.bt.co.uk :: :: Ipswich, Suffolk, England IP5 7RE :: :: From jitr-owner Tue Sep 19 06:20:44 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id GAA05664 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 06:20:44 -0700 Received: from zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk (zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk [132.146.5.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id GAA05659 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 06:20:38 -0700 Received: from burns.empire.bt.co.uk by zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 19 Sep 1995 14:19:25 +0100 Message-Id: <27807.9509191318@burns.empire.bt.co.uk> Received: from philip_katz (katzp.b55one.bt.co.uk) by burns.empire.bt.co.uk; Tue, 19 Sep 95 14:18:56 BST Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Philip Katz Organization: British Telecommunications plc To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 14:19:16 BST-1 Subject: Re: Take My Hand, lyrics Reply-To: KatzPM@empire.bt.co.uk Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 A number of people have replied to my comment about Copyright. I have extracted some of the points below. Firstly and most importantly : Copyright has little to do with "making money" (as someone suggested) and *everything* to do with the right of the artist (or the author of the work) to have control over the distribution of their works, whether that is the lyrics or the music itself. > Don't care about copyright or whatever :-) > Nobody will get you on that (they didn't with me :-) and I already posted > about 40 or so, and will start posting again in a few days. Enforcement of copyright laws is not trivial when dealing with an international mailing list and I wasn't suggesting that anyone who posts lyrics is going to get a visit from the boys in blue, but I do feel that they show a lack of respect for Sinead's personal rights to have control over her works. Yes, you can post lyrics here and get away with it. You can probably download child pornography or tell everyone how to make a bomb at home and get away with it. The Internet is not really regulated yet, and the various law enforcement agencies don't know how to deal with it. But just because you *can* get away with something doesn't mean that it is legally or morally right to do so. > It is not illegal to give away those lyrics, as long as you don't want > money for it. This is simply not true under the copyright laws of most countries. > Hell, everyone can get those lyrics by just listening to the songs, and > if someone writes them down, and lets someone else read them then, that > can't possibly be criminal. You cannot compare this with publishing them in a worldwide, public forum. > In fact, I believe Sinead herself would only be pleased that someone who > finds it difficult to understand her vocals, can then read them, and > that way also understand them. If this were true, don't you think she would publish a disclaimer to that effect on her albums? Can I say "I believe that you would be happy for me to rob you" and then use that as justification for breaking in to your house? > we wouldn't be able to send newspaper-articles, song-lyrics and things > like that about sinead anymore. is that what you want? What *I* want is immaterial. It's a case of respecting other people's intellectual property rights. If someone writes a newspaper article or song lyric, they have a right to decide what the distribution of that work is. And publishing it in JITR is an infringement of those rights. > if we would publish them in a newspaper we would need the permission of > the author but this is just a mail-list. so if you'd post it to some of > your friends i don't think there is a need to ask the author. This (again) is simply not true. JITR is a public forum. Anyone can join. THINK : If Sinead wants everyone with electronic access to have copies of her lyrics, she will put them on her WWW page. But *she* should be the one to make that decision. Philip Katz From jitr-owner Tue Sep 19 07:53:52 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id HAA05831 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 07:53:52 -0700 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com (mail04.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.53]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id HAA05826 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 07:53:50 -0700 From: Mxxxxxx@aol.com Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA12722; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 10:53:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 10:53:07 -0400 Message-ID: <950919105305_103234166@mail04.mail.aol.com> To: KatzPM@empire.bt.co.uk cc: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: Take My Hand, lyrics Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Dear Philip, I shall endeavor to get you the URLs, email list addresses and gopher sites of the thousands of unofficial internet sites currently posting lyrics, so that you may police them. Thanks for undertaking this christlike burden! Perhaps you can set up a branch of Interpol designed to crack down on these criminals. --lisa m. From jitr-owner Tue Sep 19 08:41:06 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id IAA05933 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 08:41:06 -0700 Received: from zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk (zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk [132.146.5.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id IAA05928 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 08:41:03 -0700 Received: from burns.empire.bt.co.uk by zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 19 Sep 1995 16:39:50 +0100 Message-Id: <27983.9509191539@burns.empire.bt.co.uk> Received: from by burns.empire.bt.co.uk; Tue, 19 Sep 95 16:39:22 BST Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Philip Katz Organization: British Telecommunications plc To: mxxxxxx@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 16:39:33 BST-1 Subject: Re: Take My Hand, lyrics Reply-To: KatzPM@empire.bt.co.uk Cc: jitr@server.postmodern.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 [JITR seems to be eating the first couple of lines of my messages, hence the blank lines here] Mxxxxxx@aol.com said (at 10:53 on 19 Sep 95): > I shall endeavor to get you the URLs, email list addresses and gopher > sites of the thousands of unofficial internet sites currently posting > lyrics, so that you may police them. Thanks for undertaking this > christlike burden! I am a Sinead O'Connor fan and so am concerned about her personal rights. I'm not particularily concerned about (most of) the other sites which breach copyright, though do not condone it! Just because other people break the law doesn't mean you are correct in doing so. Can I murder you and use as my defence a list of other murderers around the world? > Perhaps you can set up a branch of Interpol designed to crack down on > these criminals. No need ... Interpol are doing just fine already! You just don't get it, do you? It *not* particularily about whether it's illegal or not, it's about whether anyone has a right to distribute someone else's work without their permission, most especially someone who claims to be a fan (and I assume anyone who is on JITR is by definition a fan). Sinead has a WWW page. If she wants people to have electronic access to her lyrics she can post them there. But it should be *her* decision. Philip From jitr-owner Tue Sep 19 09:19:59 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id JAA06046 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 09:19:59 -0700 Received: from uiah.fi (root@uiah.fi [128.214.123.8]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with ESMTP id JAA06041 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 09:19:53 -0700 Received: by kyberias.uiah.fi id <53765-2>; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 19:17:36 +0300 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 19:17:33 +0300 (EET DST) From: Jani Juvonen To: Philip Katz cc: jitr@server.postmodern.com Subject: Re: Take My Hand, lyrics In-Reply-To: <27807.9509191318@burns.empire.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Just one more thing about copyright: If copyright doesn't have much to do with money, then why do they always talk about money when someone gets sued for breaking copyright laws? -Jani Juvonen ---------------------------------------------------------------------* "Never run in the rain with your socks on." -Billie Joe, Green Day From jitr-owner Tue Sep 19 09:51:16 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id JAA06155 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 09:51:16 -0700 Received: from zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk (zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk [132.146.5.1]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id JAA06150 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 09:51:11 -0700 Received: from burns.empire.bt.co.uk by zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:50:05 +0100 Message-Id: <28088.9509191649@burns.empire.bt.co.uk> Received: from philip_katz (katzp.b55one.bt.co.uk) by burns.empire.bt.co.uk; Tue, 19 Sep 95 17:49:37 BST Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Philip Katz Organization: British Telecommunications plc To: jitr@server.postmodern.com Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:49:58 BST-1 Subject: Re: Take My Hand, lyrics Reply-To: KatzPM@empire.bt.co.uk Cc: Jani Juvonen Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Jani Juvonen said (at 19:17 on 19 Sep 95): > If copyright doesn't have much to do with money, then why do they always > talk about money when someone gets sued for breaking copyright laws? An excellent question. But how else would you recompense the artist who has had their copyright infringed? Money (rightly or wrongly) is the common currency for transactions which involve one person giving something to another person! (and this is getting far, far away from the JITR lists subject matter!) > "Never run in the rain with your socks on." -Billie Joe, Green Day There is much talk of Green Day on alt.ramones, suggesting that Green Day may have, em, listened to a lot of Ramones stuff when they were growing up. Must get something by them on Saturday ... Philip :: Philip Katz :: 'phone : +44 1473 647114 :: :: BT N&S IT Security Unit, B55/G29, :: fax : +44 1473 644304 :: :: BT Laboratories, Martlesham Heath :: e-mail : KatzPM@empire.bt.co.uk :: :: Ipswich, Suffolk, England IP5 7RE :: :: From jitr-owner Tue Sep 19 10:13:29 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id KAA06234 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 10:13:29 -0700 Received: from inet1.tek.com (inet1.tek.com [134.62.48.21]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id KAA06229 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 10:13:19 -0700 From: montys@mdhost.cse.TEK.COM Received: by inet1.tek.com id ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 10:13:14 -0700 Received: from tektronix.tek.com(134.62.48.24) by inet1 via smap (V1.3) id sma033755; Tue Sep 19 10:13:10 1995 Received: from mdhost.cse.tek.com (tekadm1.cse.tek.com) by tektronix.TEK.COM (4.1/8.2) id AA01814; Tue, 19 Sep 95 10:12:08 PDT Received: from me24.CSE.TEK.COM by mdhost.cse.tek.com (4.1/8.2) id AA04016; Tue, 19 Sep 95 10:12:27 PDT Received: from localhost.TEK by me24.CSE.TEK.COM (4.1/8.0) id AA13031; Tue, 19 Sep 95 10:12:26 PDT Message-Id: <9509191712.AA13031@me24.CSE.TEK.COM> To: jitr@server.postmodern.COM Subject: Posting Lyrics Date: Tue, 19 Sep 95 10:12:25 PDT Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.COM Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 Philip, whether or not you agree, lyrics will undoubtedly continue to be posted here. This may or may not anger Sinead, her management, her publishing company, Interpol, the Pope, and possibly others as well. But it's still gonna happen. If you find this troublesome, may I suggest that you no longer participate in this forum? Or if you wish to continue to participate, may I suggest that you cease complaining over something that will continue to occur? Monty From jitr-owner Tue Sep 19 10:42:21 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) id KAA06322 for jitr-outgoing; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 10:42:21 -0700 Received: from wsp1.wspice.com (wsp1.wspice.com [204.176.46.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.6.10/8.6.10-mcb-950325) with SMTP id KAA06317 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 10:42:17 -0700 Received: from [204.176.46.109] by wsp1.wspice.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m0sv6gp-000hKrC; Tue, 19 Sep 95 12:42 CDT Message-Id: X-Sender: mxxxxxx@204.176.46.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 12:43:18 -0500 To: jitr@server.postmodern.com From: mxxxxxx@wsp1.wspice.com (lisa m.) Subject: Re: Take My Hand, lyrics Sender: owner-jitr@server.postmodern.com Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 regarding this post from Philip Katz: >Mxxxxxx@aol.com said (at 10:53 on 19 Sep 95): > >> I shall endeavor to get you the URLs, email list addresses and gopher >> sites of the thousands of unofficial internet sites currently posting >> lyrics, so that you may police them. Thanks for undertaking this >> christlike burden! > > I am a Sinead O'Connor fan and so am concerned about her personal >rights. >I'm not particularily concerned about (most of) the other sites which >bre