From mcb@presto.ig.com Mon Mar 13 18:49 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA02399; Mon, 13 Mar 95 18:49:00 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA23956 for jitr-dist; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 18:48:29 -0800 Received: from cleo.bc.edu (cleo.bc.edu [136.167.2.122]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA23950 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 18:48:27 -0800 Received: from cfc3.bc.edu by cleo.bc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA31820; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 21:49:29 -0500 From: burkeja@cleo.bc.edu Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 21:51:08 +0000 Subject: Boston.dates To: jitr@presto.ig.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Length: 185 Status: RO A few months ago Sinead had plans to do a show in Boston. Those plans were cancelled. Are there any current plans for a show in the Boston area? thank-you, jpb burkeja@cleo.bc.edu From mcb@presto.ig.com Mon Mar 13 19:28 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA02448; Mon, 13 Mar 95 19:28:02 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA24243 for jitr-dist; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 19:30:57 -0800 Received: from lulu.acns.nwu.edu (daemon@lulu.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.54]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA24240 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 19:30:56 -0800 Received: from aragorn224.acns.nwu.edu by lulu.acns.nwu.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.15/20.3) id AA089731851; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 21:30:51 -0600 Message-Id: <199503140330.AA089731851@lulu.acns.nwu.edu> X-Sender: jnt207@lulu.acns.nwu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 21:34:39 -0600 To: jitr@presto.ig.com From: jnt207@lulu.acns.nwu.edu (Ju Nguan Tan) Subject: Sinead Live/TV Recordings? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Length: 196 Status: RO Hi there! :) I desperately looking to trade/buy live audio or video recordings and TV clips of Sinead. I have a huge list to trade and so please email me if you can help. Thanks, Ju From mcb@presto.ig.com Mon Mar 13 20:26 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA02615; Mon, 13 Mar 95 20:26:22 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA24601 for jitr-dist; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 20:28:36 -0800 Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA24598 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 20:28:35 -0800 Received: from crl5.crl.com by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA17015 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 Mar 1995 20:26:43 -0800 Received: by crl5.crl.com id AA00239 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Mon, 13 Mar 1995 20:27:21 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 20:27:20 -0800 (PST) From: "Daniel R. Olinick" To: Ju Nguan Tan Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Re: Sinead Live/TV Recordings? In-Reply-To: <199503140330.AA089731851@lulu.acns.nwu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1011 Status: RO The only video I have of Sinead is a copy of this video I rented. It is very good thoughand the songs on it are all from The Lion And The Cobra. I am new to this mailing list, but If anyone knows anything about any concert dates Sinead might be planning in the future especially in the U.S.A or more specifically Texas I would appreciate it if you could email it to me or the list. I am also Interested in a FAQ for Sinead or just a list of all of her albums and albums that she has appeared on. I recently found a Japanese import of the single for The Emperor's New Clothes. There is a song on it that I assume is in Japanese called What Do You Want. I like that song has anyone else heard it? I am looking forward to hearing from some other Sinead O'Connor fans. Dan -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "the HAPPY phantom has no right to bitch" Tori Amos phantom@crl.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mcb@presto.ig.com Mon Mar 13 21:15 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA02669; Mon, 13 Mar 95 21:14:59 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA24774 for jitr-dist; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 21:15:54 -0800 Received: from king (root@king.cc.ntu.edu.tw [140.112.8.100]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA24771 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 21:15:39 -0800 Received: from ccsun24.cc.ntu.edu.tw (b3102097@ccsun24.cc.ntu.edu.tw [140.112.8.24]) by king (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA04951; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 13:16:53 +0800 Received: (b3102097@localhost) by ccsun24.cc.ntu.edu.tw (8.6.10/8.6.9) id NAA20011; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 13:17:05 +0800 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 13:17:05 +0800 (CST) From: glee To: "Daniel R. Olinick" Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Re: Sinead Live/TV Recordings? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 459 Status: RO Welcome to the list Daniel. I wonder if the video you were talking about was recorded in London. I think i have that video too. And i also have the single "the emperor's new clothes" with the song "what do you want". I think you can find that song in the soundtrack of the movie "till the end of the world" too. But i don't think it's in Japanese though. By the way i love Tori Amos. Take care. Gavin From mcb@presto.ig.com Mon Mar 13 21:27 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA02728; Mon, 13 Mar 95 21:27:04 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA24854 for jitr-dist; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 21:29:46 -0800 Received: from lyco.lycoming.edu (lyco.lycoming.edu [199.234.188.2]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA24851 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 21:29:44 -0800 Received: by lyco.lycoming.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA14157; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 00:26:13 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 00:26:13 -0500 From: ahlaudi@lyco.lycoming.edu (Audia L. Ahlgren) Message-Id: <9503140526.AA14157@lyco.lycoming.edu> To: jitr@presto.ig.com, jnt207@lulu.acns.nwu.edu Subject: Re: Sinead Live/TV Recordings? Content-Type: text Content-Length: 61 Status: RO Sorry, i don't know anything about live recordings or video. From mcb@presto.ig.com Mon Mar 13 21:42 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA02830; Mon, 13 Mar 95 21:42:44 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA24907 for jitr-dist; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 21:45:07 -0800 Received: from king (king.cc.ntu.edu.tw [140.112.8.100]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA24902 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 21:44:55 -0800 Received: from ccsun24.cc.ntu.edu.tw (b3102097@ccsun24.cc.ntu.edu.tw [140.112.8.24]) by king (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA05615; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 13:46:14 +0800 Received: (b3102097@localhost) by ccsun24.cc.ntu.edu.tw (8.6.10/8.6.9) id NAA20192; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 13:46:26 +0800 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 13:46:25 +0800 (CST) From: glee To: Ju Nguan Tan Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Re: Sinead Live/TV Recordings? In-Reply-To: <199503140330.AA089731851@lulu.acns.nwu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 461 Status: RO Hi there Ju, i'd be interested in your list of your Sinead collections...and what are you looking for? I've heard that Sinead had been in a movie, in which she's a high school student and her friend was having an abortion...she wrote the songs for the soundtrack and sings in it. Do you have that? I've also heard that she had written a song for U2, and she also sang with the band; is that true? Gavin From mcb@presto.ig.com Mon Mar 13 22:04 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA02926; Mon, 13 Mar 95 22:04:23 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA25102 for jitr-dist; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 22:06:46 -0800 Received: from lulu.acns.nwu.edu (daemon@lulu.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.54]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA25099 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 22:06:44 -0800 Received: from aragorn214.acns.nwu.edu by lulu.acns.nwu.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.15/20.3) id AA097041147; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 00:05:47 -0600 Message-Id: <199503140605.AA097041147@lulu.acns.nwu.edu> X-Sender: jnt207@lulu.acns.nwu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 00:09:35 -0600 To: glee From: jnt207@lulu.acns.nwu.edu (Ju Nguan Tan) Subject: Re: Sinead Live/TV Recordings? Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Length: 1182 Status: RO > Hi there Ju, i'd be interested in your list of your Sinead >collections...and what are you looking for? I am looking for clips that you may have recorded off TV, or audience recordings of her concerts.. :) > > I've heard that Sinead had been in a movie, in which she's a high school >student and her friend was having an abortion...she wrote the songs for >the soundtrack and sings in it. Do you have that? No, i don't have this movie but I saw it at a film festival. It's called Hush A Bye Baby and Sinead only has a small part. The album version of Three Babies closes the movie, and she performs no other song. > I've also heard that >she had written a song for U2, and she also sang with the band; is that true? She collaborated with the Edge for a haunting song called Heroine which can be found on the soundtrack to the film Captive, written by the Edge. She also sang You Made Me The Thief Of Your Heart, written by Bono and Gavin Friday, on the soundtrack of In The Name Of The Father. That's all for the U2 association in terms of song collaborations, as far as I know.. :) Yours, Ju From mcb@presto.ig.com Mon Mar 13 22:05 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA02930; Mon, 13 Mar 95 22:05:43 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA25133 for jitr-dist; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 22:09:53 -0800 Received: from lulu.acns.nwu.edu (daemon@lulu.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.54]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA25130 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 22:09:51 -0800 Received: from aragorn214.acns.nwu.edu by lulu.acns.nwu.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.15/20.3) id AA103871381; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 00:09:41 -0600 Message-Id: <199503140609.AA103871381@lulu.acns.nwu.edu> X-Sender: jnt207@lulu.acns.nwu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 00:13:28 -0600 To: "Daniel R. Olinick" From: jnt207@lulu.acns.nwu.edu (Ju Nguan Tan) Subject: Re: Sinead Live/TV Recordings? Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Length: 1085 Status: RO Dear Daniel, >The only video I have of Sinead is a copy of this video I rented. It is >very good thoughand the songs on it are all from The Lion And The Cobra. Thanks, I have this. :) >I am new to this mailing list, but If anyone knows anything about any >concert dates Sinead might be planning in the future especially in the >U.S.A or more specifically Texas I would appreciate it if you could email >it to me or the list. I am also Interested in a FAQ for Sinead or just a >list of all of her albums and albums that she has appeared on. I have a rather complete collection of Sinead's non-album appearances; I don't have time to come up with an FAQ at the moment but if you have any questions you can email me and I'll be glad to help. :) >I recently found a Japanese import of the single for The Emperor's New >Clothes. There is a song on it that I assume is in Japanese called What >Do You Want. I like that song has anyone else heard it? This song is in Irish; yes, I like it very much, too! Yours, Ju From mcb@presto.ig.com Mon Mar 13 22:47 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA02983; Mon, 13 Mar 95 22:47:10 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA25540 for jitr-dist; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 22:49:49 -0800 Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id WAA25537 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 22:49:47 -0800 Received: from crl6.crl.com by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA05186 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 Mar 1995 22:47:11 -0800 Received: by crl6.crl.com id AA04741 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Mon, 13 Mar 1995 22:47:48 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 22:47:47 -0800 (PST) From: "Daniel R. Olinick" To: Ju Nguan Tan Cc: glee , jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Re: Sinead Live/TV Recordings? In-Reply-To: <199503140605.AA097041147@lulu.acns.nwu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 708 Status: RO I don't have this, but I know it exists. It is an appearance by Sinead on the Arsenio Hall show. She sang a song all alone without any accompanyment. It was beautiful. Does anyone know of this song? I am sorry I can't be more specific. I was also wondering about the possibility of trading songs and soundbites over the net in the form of .wav or .au files. I know that these files can become quite huge for entire songs. Any advice or suggestions about it? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "the HAPPY phantom has no right to bitch" Tori Amos phantom@crl.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mcb@presto.ig.com Tue Mar 14 01:50 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA03212; Tue, 14 Mar 95 01:50:17 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA27386 for jitr-dist; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 01:53:34 -0800 Received: from whistler.sfu.ca (root@whistler.sfu.ca [142.58.103.1]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA27383 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 01:53:31 -0800 Received: from [142.58.123.29] (rs14-annex3.sfu.ca [142.58.123.29]) by whistler.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.6.10/SFU-2.6H) id BAA20720 for (from Kevin_Davison@sfu.ca); Tue, 14 Mar 1995 01:53:25 -0800 X-Sender: kdavison@whistler.sfu.ca Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 01:53:59 -0800 To: jitr@presto.ig.com From: Kevin_Davison@sfu.ca (Kevin Davison) Subject: Re: Sinead Live/TV Recordings? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Length: 865 Status: RO >I don't have this, but I know it exists. It is an appearance by >Sinead on the Arsenio Hall show. She sang a song all alone without >any accompanyment. It was beautiful. Does anyone know of this song? >I am sorry I can't be more specific. > The song was "Irish Ways and Irish Laws". It's a "B-side" to the "Silent Night" (CD) single. The TV apearance *I* would most like of Sinead is the Saturday Night Live one (no, not the Pope thing!) where she sings "This Is The Last Day Of Our Aquaintance". She's really rocking and dancing around and hopping over her guitar cord. Very cool. If anyone has a copy of this I would *love* to hear from them. e-mail me! Thanks. Kevin ____________________________________________________________________________ kdavison@sfu.ca Remember: Live every day as if it were your last and then some day you'll be right. From mcb@presto.ig.com Tue Mar 14 05:40 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA03337; Tue, 14 Mar 95 05:40:52 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA28176 for jitr-dist; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 05:40:56 -0800 Received: from ping.at (uucp@pong.ping.at [193.81.14.2]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA28173 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 05:40:52 -0800 Received: from site51.ping.at by ping.at with UUCP id AA10331 (5.67b8/ping for jitr@presto.ig.com); Tue, 14 Mar 1995 14:40:42 +0100 Received: by site51.ping.at (CrossPoint v3.0); 14 Mar 1995 14:28:52 +0100 Date: 14 Mar 1995 14:25:00 +0100 From: szendrey@site51.ping.at (Roman Szendrey) To: jitr@presto.ig.com Message-Id: <5hqo45nTe6B@site51.ping.at> In-Reply-To: <199503140330.AA089731851@lulu.acns.nwu.edu> Subject: Re^2: Sinead Live/TV Recordings? X-Mailer: XP v3.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 827 Status: RO > it to me or the list. I am also Interested in a FAQ for Sinead a FAQ would be great. but who's gonna write it? :-) > or just a > list of all of her albums and albums that she has appeared on. there is a discography available on FTP: turbo.bio.net /misc/jitr if you want i can send it to you via e-mail. > I recently found a Japanese import of the single for The Emperor's New > Clothes. There is a song on it that I assume is in Japanese called What > Do You Want. i'm not sure but it's sounds gaelic to me. well both languages sounds very strange... :-) > I like that song has anyone else heard it? yes! i like the whole CD very much. ciao roman ---------------------------------------- roman szendrey (szendrey@site51.ping.at) vienna / austria ---------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.0 ## From mcb@presto.ig.com Tue Mar 14 06:10 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA03369; Tue, 14 Mar 95 06:10:42 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA28284 for jitr-dist; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 06:13:18 -0800 Received: from zcias1.ziff.com (zcias1.ziff.com [140.244.1.69]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA28281 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 06:13:17 -0800 Received: from DN-ARNOR by zcias1.ziff.com (PMDF V4.3-10 #6906) id <01HO4CXG49AO00A14Z@zcias1.ziff.com>; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 09:09:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from arnor.zis.ziff.com by arnor.zis.ziff.com (PMDF V4.3-10 #3828) id <01HO4CVFXOXSDWQPZ9@arnor.zis.ziff.com>; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 09:09:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 09:09:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam Warren Subject: Re: Boston.dates To: jitr@presto.ig.com Message-Id: <01HO4CVG28WYDWQPZ9@arnor.zis.ziff.com> X-Envelope-To: jitr@presto.ig.com X-Vms-To: IN%"jitr@presto.ig.com" X-Vms-Cc: I_SW Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Type: text Content-Length: 149 Status: RO As far as I'm aware, Sinead won't be touring until after her marriage, and the birth of her second child. And even then, it's spotty, at best. -Sam From mcb@presto.ig.com Tue Mar 14 08:46 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA03515; Tue, 14 Mar 95 08:46:19 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA29554 for jitr-dist; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:46:24 -0800 Received: from relay.Ieunet.ie (relay.Ieunet.ie [192.111.39.1]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA29550 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:46:19 -0800 Received: from aldiscon.ie by relay.Ieunet.ie via Ieunet with UUCP id aa21876; 14 Mar 95 16:45 +0000 Received: from alison by eithne.aldiscon.ie (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19884; Tue, 14 Mar 95 16:37:13 GMT Received: by alison (1.37.109.6/16.2) id AA04917; Tue, 14 Mar 95 16:37:37 GMT Message-Id: <9503141637.AA19884@eithne.aldiscon.ie> From: Eric Mosley Subject: Re: Re: Boston.dates To: jitr@presto.ig.com Date: Tue, 14 Mar 95 16:37:35 GMT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 288 Status: RO >As far as I'm aware, Sinead won't be touring until after her marriage, and the >birth of her second child. And even then, it's spotty, at best. >-Sam What do you mean? I'm sure I read in an Irish paper a while back that she had aborted the baby and was now seeing John again. Eric From mcb@presto.ig.com Tue Mar 14 08:47 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA03519; Tue, 14 Mar 95 08:47:08 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA29567 for jitr-dist; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:47:47 -0800 Received: from orion.it.luc.edu (ddo@orion.it.luc.edu [147.126.1.9]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA29564 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:47:45 -0800 Received: by orion.it.luc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA81644; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 10:47:47 -0600 From: ddo@orion.it.luc.edu (Danielle D. Do) Message-Id: <9503141647.AA81644@orion.it.luc.edu> Subject: Sinead To: jitr@presto.ig.com Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 10:47:47 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL17] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 711 Status: RO Duh! I can't believe I pressed the return .. what a stupid subject line! Apologies. On to what I mean to post: I think that many people on this list might already know this, but Sinead has a cameo role in a made for cable release movie version of Wuthering Heights -- she plays Emily Bronte/the narrator. I taped it, but have not watched it yet. I also have both of the commercially available concert videos, her Grammy performance of Nothing Compares 2U and a couple of her videos. I also have a concert CD (I think it was made at a European concert) and a tape of her first concert in the US in New York at the Orpheum (I think that was at the Orpheum). Regards, Danielle ddo@orion.it.luc.edu From mcb@presto.ig.com Tue Mar 14 11:26 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA03762; Tue, 14 Mar 95 11:26:33 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA02786 for jitr-dist; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 11:29:57 -0800 Received: from relay1.Hawaii.Edu (relay1.Hawaii.Edu [128.171.41.53]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA02783 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 11:29:54 -0800 Received: from uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu ([128.171.44.52]) by relay1.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <11386(6)>; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 09:29:49 -1000 Received: by uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu id <148515>; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 09:29:46 -1000 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 09:29:35 -1000 From: THE RAT To: jitr@presto.ig.com In-Real-Life: Greg Bueno Content-Type: text Content-Length: 843 Status: RO Title/Organization: President, The Richard Ching Fan Club Subject: Re: Re: Boston.dates In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 14 Mar 1995 06:37:35 -1000 Message-Id: content-length: 608 > What do you mean? I'm sure I read in an Irish paper a while back that she > had aborted the baby and was now seeing John again. Abort? I read a spot article in a local daily that she miscarried. Someone on the Honolulu Advertiser staff must be a Sinead fan. The report of her suicide attempt appeared there as well. ========================================================================= "Come on baby! Come on baby! Eat an onion!" -- Crayon Shin-chan Greg Bueno bueno@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu ========================================================================= From mcb@presto.ig.com Tue Mar 14 12:10 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA03921; Tue, 14 Mar 95 12:10:55 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA03621 for jitr-dist; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 12:14:07 -0800 Received: from zcias1.ziff.com (zcias1.ziff.com [140.244.1.69]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA03618 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 12:14:05 -0800 Received: from DN-ARNOR by zcias1.ziff.com (PMDF V4.3-10 #6906) id <01HO4PAGZRKG00A697@zcias1.ziff.com>; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 15:03:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from arnor.zis.ziff.com by arnor.zis.ziff.com (PMDF V4.3-10 #3828) id <01HO4P30TZOWDWQGV8@arnor.zis.ziff.com>; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 15:03:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 15:03:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam Warren Subject: RE; Boston.dates To: jitr@presto.ig.com Message-Id: <01HO4P30YJNMDWQGV8@arnor.zis.ziff.com> X-Envelope-To: jitr@presto.ig.com X-Vms-To: IN%"jitr@presto.ig.com" X-Vms-Cc: I_SW Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Type: text Content-Length: 917 Status: RO >>As far as I'm aware, Sinead won't be touring until after her marriage, and the >>birth of her second child. And even then, it's spotty, at best. >What do you mean? I'm sure I read in an Irish paper a while back that she >had aborted the baby and was now seeing John again. I missed this info. So if you're right, perhaps she will tour. But then, _Universal Mother_ has been out for what seems to me to be a long time without benefit of a supporting tour. Quite odd that she should go back to John after dedicating a single to Richard (I think that was his name). But then, her personal life does tend to confuse me. In the Q interview several months ago, she said she could never imagine getting very close to another man as long as she lived (because of the abuse she suffered as a child). It was a short time past that when her marriage plans were announced over the AP wire. I just can't keep up. :-) -Sam From mcb@presto.ig.com Tue Mar 14 18:53 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA04974; Tue, 14 Mar 95 18:53:29 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA08548 for jitr-dist; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 18:57:51 -0800 Received: from cherry.wustl.edu (cherry.wustl.edu [128.252.121.29]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA08545 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 18:57:48 -0800 Received: by cherry.wustl.edu (NX5.67d/NeXT-3.0-SLT/GHC) id AB02446; Tue, 14 Mar 95 20:57:41 -0600 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 20:57:39 -0600 (GMT-0600) From: Irvin Fei-Chiang Lin X-Sender: iflin@cherry To: glee Cc: Ju Nguan Tan , jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Re: Sinead Live/TV Recordings? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1302 Status: RO On Tue, 14 Mar 1995, glee wrote: > Hi there Ju, i'd be interested in your list of your Sinead > collections...and what are you looking for? > > I've heard that Sinead had been in a movie, in which she's a high school > student and her friend was having an abortion...she wrote the songs for > the soundtrack and sings in it. Do you have that? I've also heard that > she had written a song for U2, and she also sang with the band; is that true? that movie would be Hush A Bye Baby...and it was made for the british channel 4 back in 1989. she sings a duet with christy moore called "middle of the island" and it can be found on a christy moore album (sorry i don't have it...that is all the info that i know). also is the song you are talking about with U2 "heroine" ? it appears on the soundtrack to the movie the captive and is basically the edge from U2 soing the stuff (though sinead is singing on one song, and michael brooks is on a couple as well). it was recently released and is a great album by itself. (i think) it predates the lion and the cobra.... how are the songs that sinead sings on the chieftans new album? i skimmed through them at the record store and they sound real traditional irish songs. haven't had a chance to buy it yet though.... irvin From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Mar 15 11:13 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA06278; Wed, 15 Mar 95 11:13:04 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA15458 for jitr-dist; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 11:16:52 -0800 Received: from relay1.Hawaii.Edu (relay1.Hawaii.Edu [128.171.41.53]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA15455 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 11:16:50 -0800 Received: from uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu ([128.171.44.54]) by relay1.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <11505(10)>; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 09:01:29 -1000 Received: by uhunix4.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (4.1/Sun690) id AA06726; Wed, 15 Mar 95 09:00:33 HST Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 09:00:31 -1000 From: THE RAT To: jitr@presto.ig.com In-Real-Life: Greg Bueno Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1258 Status: RO Title/Organization: President, The Richard Ching Fan Club Subject: Sinead and the Chieftains In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 14 Mar 1995 16:57:39 -1000 Message-Id: content-length: 1017 > how are the songs that sinead sings on the chieftans new album? > i skimmed through them at the record store and they sound real > traditional irish songs. haven't had a chance to buy it yet though.... Indeed they are traditional, but Sinead puts her emotional stamp on these songs. "The Foggy Dew" is a song written in memory of people killed in a 1916 uprising (I think...I'm typing this from the top of my head.) Paddy Moloney lets Sinead slow parts down to give it her all. "He Moved Through the Fair" is more introspective. The entire album is really good, save for a few dry moments. Specifically, Tom Jones singing Tennesee Waltz and the Keith Richards' quoting "Satisfaction" during "The Rocky Road to Dublin." ========================================================================= "Come on baby! Come on baby! Eat an onion!" -- Crayon Shin-chan Greg Bueno bueno@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu ========================================================================= From mcb@presto.ig.com Thu Mar 16 13:59 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA08730; Thu, 16 Mar 95 13:59:42 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA00455 for jitr-dist; Thu, 16 Mar 1995 14:02:19 -0800 Received: from gw.wmich.edu (gw.wmich.edu [141.218.1.100]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA00452 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 1995 14:02:17 -0800 Received: from piglet.cc.wmich.edu (piglet.cc.wmich.edu [141.218.20.105]) by gw.wmich.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA09308 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 1995 17:02:07 -0500 Received: from wmich.edu by wmich.edu (PMDF V4.3-10 #5064) id <01HO7LRDH5OG8WWU9T@wmich.edu>; Thu, 16 Mar 1995 17:02:02 -0400 (EDT) From: X93PODSIAD@wmich.edu Date: Thu, 16 Mar 1995 16:59:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: year of the horse To: jitr@presto.ig.com Message-Id: <01HO7M12VFEO8WWU9T@wmich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Length: 282 Status: RO would someone please make a copy of year of the horse and send it to me? i will repay you in full for postage and tape costs. apparently this tape is out of print and i cannot find it anywhere. if you can, please help me with this, i would greatly appreciate it. thank you. m. From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Mar 15 07:21 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA05797; Wed, 15 Mar 95 07:21:28 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA12108 for jitr-dist; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 07:25:15 -0800 Received: from remarque.berkeley.edu (remarque.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.152.164]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA12105 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 07:25:14 -0800 Received: from localhost by remarque.berkeley.edu (8.6.10/1.31) id HAA11417; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 07:25:06 -0800 Message-Id: <199503151525.HAA11417@remarque.berkeley.edu> To: jitr@presto.ig.com Reply-To: /def/null@presto.ig.com Subject: Stop Sending Unsubscribe Messages to the Whole Friggin' List!!! In-Reply-To: Wade S Abram's message of "Wed, 15 Mar 1995 00:35:51 MST." <199503150735.AAA22196@stellar.comnet.com> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 07:25:05 -0800 From: Jym Dyer Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2131 Status: RO =o= I can't unsubscribe you. Neither can the other 100 or so people who receive these requests. Try the stuff attached. Clip 'n' save the following for future reference. <_Jym_> =============8<=============Cut-Here=============8<============= How To Unsubscribe From Any Email List For the purposes of this memo, let's assume you're on an email list called WHATEVER at SITE.EDU. The email alias is . (If the list has a name like "WHATEVER-L", you should try step 4 first.) =1= First, send a request to the "-request" alias. For our example, that would be . This is usually read by a human being, so write accordingly. =2= If you get no response from the above, send mail to the "majordomo" alias. That's for our example. 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Make it courteous, particularly since the vast majority of the people reading it can't do a thing about it. Try to avoid setting off a bunch of "me too" messages by saying something like, "Please don't chime in with a bunch of 'I want to unsubscribe too' messages." From mcb@presto.ig.com Thu Mar 16 19:42 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA09603; Thu, 16 Mar 95 19:42:48 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA00385 for jitr-dist; Thu, 16 Mar 1995 19:38:05 -0800 Received: from spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (spartan.ac.BrockU.CA [139.57.65.3]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA00382 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 1995 19:38:03 -0800 Received: from badger.ac.BrockU.CA by spartan.ac.BrockU.CA via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for jitr@presto.ig.com id AA09003; Thu, 16 Mar 95 21:30:24 -0500 Received: by badger.ac.BrockU.CA (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @spartan.ac.BrockU.CA:jitr@presto.ig.com id AA02130; Thu, 16 Mar 95 21:08:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 1995 21:08:07 +0001 (EST) From: MEGHAN ELIZABETH-ANN REICHHELD Sender: MEGHAN ELIZABETH-ANN REICHHELD Reply-To: MEGHAN ELIZABETH-ANN REICHHELD Subject: What do you want To: jitr@presto.ig.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Length: 652 Status: RO Hi everybody, I just picked up my e-mail and I see you've had quite a conversation about the song What Do You Want. I love that song and I'm quite sure that it's Gaelic. I have this song on the B-side of The Emperor's New Clothes that I got in a great Box Set. Is there anyone out there who still knows this language, I know it's almost a dead language. I'd really like to know what the words mean. Everybody is asking about concert dates in the U.S. I'd like to keep up to date on any time Sinead might come to Canada. Toronto, I guess is the closest she'll ever get to me. I've seen her twice there. Nice to meet you all, Meghan From mcb@presto.ig.com Thu Mar 16 19:44 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA09607; Thu, 16 Mar 95 19:44:27 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA00312 for jitr-dist; Thu, 16 Mar 1995 19:33:57 -0800 Received: from smtp.utexas.edu (smtp.utexas.edu [128.83.126.2]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA00308 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 1995 19:33:55 -0800 Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by smtp.utexas.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA02992 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 1995 19:50:00 -0600 Received: from [128.83.204.140] (slip-2-40.ots.utexas.edu [128.83.204.140]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA17502 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 1995 19:48:26 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 1995 19:48:30 -0600 To: jitr@PRESTO.IG.COM From: eclark@mail.utexas.edu (Industry) Subject: Re: year of the horse Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Length: 355 Status: RO I had heard of this video as well and have never been able to find it. If any one out there has it I'd be willing to trade or just send money for postage and stuff. Erick ============================================== And when the Ringmaster Calls our names We'll be the first ones to go... to sleep Stealing all our dreams, Sell them back to you From mcb@presto.ig.com Thu Mar 16 21:12 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA09723; Thu, 16 Mar 95 21:12:39 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA00902 for jitr-dist; Thu, 16 Mar 1995 21:04:33 -0800 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com (mail04.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.53]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA00899 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 1995 21:04:31 -0800 Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA234866639; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 00:03:59 -0500 From: Kristenly@aol.com Date: Fri, 17 Mar 1995 00:03:59 -0500 Message-Id: <950317000009_52112184@aol.com> To: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: B-Sides Content-Type: text Content-Length: 329 Status: RO Hello!! I'm looking for anyone who is willing to tape me a few of Sinead's B-Sides. While I have some, I'm not sure I Have them all and have never heard the song What do you want that everyone is discussing. I am willing to pay for postage and the tpae cost, please e-mail me if anyone is willing to help. Thanks-Kristen Lee From mcb@presto.ig.com Fri Mar 17 22:11 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA01784; Fri, 17 Mar 95 22:11:30 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA16025 for jitr-dist; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 22:00:25 -0800 Received: from ix2.ix.netcom.com (ix2.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.3]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA16022 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 22:00:24 -0800 Received: from by ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.6.11/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id VAA15288; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 21:58:37 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 1995 21:58:37 -0800 Message-Id: <199503180558.VAA15288@ix2.ix.netcom.com> From: rviolin@ix.netcom.com (Richard Rivera) Subject: That certain Sinead song To: jitr@presto.ig.com Content-Type: text Content-Length: 446 Status: RO Hey everyone! Does anyone know the name of that song Sinead did a while back (between Am I Not.. and Universal Mother, I think) that was on the radio? It wasn't by her, it was some techno/dance group, I think, but it featured her vocals prominently. I could kick myself for not paying closer attention at the time. It's not a Sinead song proper and has not appeared on any of her releases. Anyone have any clues? Thanks! Brady Lanier From mcb@presto.ig.com Sat Mar 18 08:09 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA02555; Sat, 18 Mar 95 08:09:30 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA18320 for jitr-dist; Sat, 18 Mar 1995 07:54:35 -0800 Received: from remus.rutgers.edu (root@remus.rutgers.edu [128.6.13.3]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA18317 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 1995 07:54:33 -0800 Received: from [192.67.236.41] (ficara.jvnc.net [192.67.236.41]) by remus.rutgers.edu (8.6.10+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA29460 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 1995 10:54:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199503181554.KAA29460@remus.rutgers.edu> X-Sender: ficara@remus.rutgers.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 11:05:48 -0500 To: jitr@presto.ig.com From: ficara@acm.org (Ken Ficara) Subject: Sinead on World Cafe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Length: 1472 Status: RO Did I miss mention of this on the list (use good subject lines on your messages!!!!)? Last night, Sinead was a guest on the World Cafe, a program produced at Philadelphia's wonderful radio station, WXPN. She basically played DJ for an hour, playing records she likes and talking about them. Here's what she played: Bob Dylan - Serve Somebody ? - Small Horse Woman (this was a fantastic dance hall song but I can't get the name of the performer). Bob Marley - Jah Live Massive Attack with Tracy Thorn - ? Van Morrison - A Town Called Paradise Gregory Isaacs - Night Nurse Ice Cube - America's Most Wanted Aretha Franklin - Dr. Feelgood It's just so great to hear someone do a set like this, ranging from Van Morrison to rap music and dance hall -- it's nice to know that there are a FEW other people out there with record collections like mine. I taped the whole show, though it's in mono and slightly staticky, because I'm on the fringe of XPN's broadcast area. World Cafe is syndicated all over the place so your local NPR station may be broadcasting it. (SUPPORT NPR!!!) :) ken ============================================================================== Ken Ficara ficara@acm.org | If Eric Clapton can beat Otis Rush for | the Traditional Blues Grammy, perhaps we | should honor Andy Warhol for his design http://remus.rutgers.edu/~ficara/ | of the Campbell's soup can. From mcb@presto.ig.com Mon Mar 20 06:30 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA07399; Mon, 20 Mar 95 06:30:45 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA00656 for jitr-dist; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 06:22:30 -0800 Received: from hpux2.hanscom.af.mil ([129.53.1.101]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA00653 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 06:22:26 -0800 Received: from Radium-VS1.Hanscom.AF.Mil by hpux2.hanscom.af.mil with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA032478649; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 09:10:49 -0500 Received: by Radium-VS1.Hanscom.AF.Mil; Mon, 20 Mar 95 9:20:39 EST Date: Mon, 20 Mar 95 9:20:36 EST Message-Id: From: "Jim Tuttle" To: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: re: That certain Sinead song X-Incognito-Sn: 436 X-Incognito-Format: VERSION=1.72a ENCRYPTED=NO Content-Type: text Content-Length: 425 Status: RO i think that might be the song she did with Jah Wobble. they're sort of a reggae group, and they also recently did a song featuring the lead singer from the Cranberries. hope this is accurate.... jim ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "On the outskirts of nowhere / On the ringroad to somewhere, On the verge of indecision / I'll always take the roundabout way." - Marillion From mcb@presto.ig.com Tue Mar 21 13:07 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA12843; Tue, 21 Mar 95 13:07:04 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA18148 for jitr-dist; Tue, 21 Mar 1995 13:00:01 -0800 Received: from SRUVM.SRU.EDU (sruvm.sru.edu [192.148.234.1]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA18145 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 1995 12:59:59 -0800 Received: from SRU by SRUVM.SRU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8227; Tue, 21 Mar 95 15:59:33 EST Message-Id: <199503212059.MAA18145@presto.ig.com> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 95 15:58:26 EST From: andrea To: jitr@presto.ig.com Content-Type: text Content-Length: 129 Status: RO I deleted your message, so I don't remember exactly what you wanted, but she did do some things with Peter Gabriel on the Us CD. From mcb@presto.ig.com Tue Mar 21 21:04 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA13552; Tue, 21 Mar 95 21:04:49 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA25473 for jitr-dist; Tue, 21 Mar 1995 20:59:27 -0800 Received: from spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (spartan.ac.BrockU.CA [139.57.65.3]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA25470 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 1995 20:59:25 -0800 Received: from badger.ac.BrockU.CA by spartan.ac.BrockU.CA via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for jitr@presto.ig.com id AA19212; Wed, 22 Mar 95 00:00:59 -0500 Received: by badger.ac.BrockU.CA (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @spartan.ac.BrockU.CA:jitr@presto.ig.com id AA13440; Tue, 21 Mar 95 23:57:38 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 23:57:37 +0001 (EST) From: MEGHAN ELIZABETH-ANN REICHHELD Subject: Re: That certain Sinead song To: Richard Rivera Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com In-Reply-To: <199503180558.VAA15288@ix2.ix.netcom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 347 Status: RO Richard, I would guess that that song you are talking about is "Visions of You" that was done by Jawabble (I have know idea if I spelled that even remotely correctly). There is stuff that I have heard on the radio that Sinead did with Peter Gabriel but I don't think that could be referred to as Techno/Dance. Hope I was helpful, Meghan From mcb@presto.ig.com Tue Mar 21 21:06 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA13561; Tue, 21 Mar 95 21:06:41 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA25483 for jitr-dist; Tue, 21 Mar 1995 21:02:05 -0800 Received: from spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (spartan.ac.BrockU.CA [139.57.65.3]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA25480 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 1995 21:02:03 -0800 Received: from badger.ac.BrockU.CA by spartan.ac.BrockU.CA via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for jitr@presto.ig.com id AA19393; Wed, 22 Mar 95 00:03:38 -0500 Received: by badger.ac.BrockU.CA (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @spartan.ac.BrockU.CA:jitr@presto.ig.com id AA13514; Wed, 22 Mar 95 00:00:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 00:00:22 +0001 (EST) From: MEGHAN ELIZABETH-ANN REICHHELD Sender: MEGHAN ELIZABETH-ANN REICHHELD Reply-To: MEGHAN ELIZABETH-ANN REICHHELD Subject: Re: Sinead on World Cafe To: Ken Ficara Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com In-Reply-To: <199503181554.KAA29460@remus.rutgers.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Length: 121 Status: RO That sounds pretty cool. I really would have liked to hear that program. One question though, what is NPR? Meghan From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Mar 22 15:26 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA15370; Wed, 22 Mar 95 15:26:21 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA05196 for jitr-dist; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 15:19:10 -0800 Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA05193 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 15:19:06 -0800 Received: from postmodern.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQyifl06152; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 18:19:02 -0500 Received: by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA15346; Wed, 22 Mar 95 15:19:34 PST Message-Id: <9503222319.AA15346@postmodern.com> From: mcb@postmodern.com (Michael C. Berch) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 15:19:34 -0800 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Translation request (Portugese) Content-Type: text Content-Length: 439 Status: RO Can anyone help me make sense of this? It arrived in the JITR list request mailbox... -- Michael C. Berch JITR moderator mcb@postmodern.com / jitr-request@presto.ig.com > > Saudacoes! > > Sou um fa numero um de Sinead e gostaria de ter > uma fita cassete dos melhores momentos desta super gata > posso receber via postal. > > Sem mais, de > > Paulo Roberto Maia > Rua Manoel da Nobrega, 81 > Diadema - SP > CEP 09910-720 - BRASIL From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Mar 22 18:13 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA15877; Wed, 22 Mar 95 18:13:48 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA07121 for jitr-dist; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 18:09:14 -0800 Received: from remus.rutgers.edu (root@remus.rutgers.edu [128.6.13.3]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA07118 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 18:09:12 -0800 Received: from [192.67.236.41] (ficara.jvnc.net [192.67.236.41]) by remus.rutgers.edu (8.6.10+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.10) with SMTP id VAA24240; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 21:08:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199503230208.VAA24240@remus.rutgers.edu> X-Sender: ficara@remus.rutgers.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 21:19:39 -0500 To: MEGHAN ELIZABETH-ANN REICHHELD From: ficara@acm.org (Ken Ficara) Subject: Re: Sinead on World Cafe Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Length: 1032 Status: RO Sorry, I should have explained that to the non-US members of the list. NPR is National Public Radio, a network that is partially funded by the government and produces quality programming -- news and talk plus some of the better music shows including Ruth Brown's blues show, World Cafe, Mountain Stage, etc. Needless to say, the new leaders in Congress here want to eliminate funding for it, mainly because it uses words that are too big for them to understand. At 00:00 3/22/95 +0001, MEGHAN ELIZABETH-ANN REICHHELD wrote: >That sounds pretty cool. I really would have liked to hear that >program. One question though, what is NPR? > >Meghan ============================================================================== Ken Ficara ficara@acm.org | If Eric Clapton can beat Otis Rush for | the Traditional Blues Grammy, perhaps we | should honor Andy Warhol for his design http://remus.rutgers.edu/~ficara/ | of the Campbell's soup can. From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Mar 22 18:17 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA15894; Wed, 22 Mar 95 18:16:58 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA07126 for jitr-dist; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 18:09:21 -0800 Received: from remus.rutgers.edu (root@remus.rutgers.edu [128.6.13.3]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA07123 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 18:09:19 -0800 Received: from [192.67.236.41] (ficara.jvnc.net [192.67.236.41]) by remus.rutgers.edu (8.6.10+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.10) with SMTP id VAA24399; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 21:08:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199503230208.VAA24399@remus.rutgers.edu> X-Sender: ficara@remus.rutgers.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 21:19:47 -0500 To: MEGHAN ELIZABETH-ANN REICHHELD , Richard Rivera From: ficara@acm.org (Ken Ficara) Subject: Re: That certain Sinead song Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Length: 881 Status: RO At 23:57 3/21/95 +0001, MEGHAN ELIZABETH-ANN REICHHELD wrote: >Richard, I would guess that that song you are talking about is "Visions >of You" that was done by Jawabble (I have know idea if I spelled that Jah Wobble is an extremely innovative and funky bass player who was an original member of Public Image Ltd., the band that John Lydon formed after breaking up the Sex Pistols and changing his name back from Rotten. Does anyone know where to obtain this song that Meghan mentions? :) ken ============================================================================== Ken Ficara ficara@acm.org | If Eric Clapton can beat Otis Rush for | the Traditional Blues Grammy, perhaps we | should honor Andy Warhol for his design http://remus.rutgers.edu/~ficara/ | of the Campbell's soup can. From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Mar 22 19:08 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA16047; Wed, 22 Mar 95 19:08:44 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA07803 for jitr-dist; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 19:04:17 -0800 Received: from napalm.ecst.csuchico.edu (napalm.ecst.csuchico.edu [132.241.1.34]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA07800 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 19:04:15 -0800 Received: (from cameron@localhost) by napalm.ecst.csuchico.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) id TAA06210; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 19:04:12 -0800 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 19:04:10 -0800 (PST) From: Cameron Smith To: jump-in-the-river@presto.ig.com Subject: manu diBango Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1233 Status: RO So, has anyone heard Sinead's glowing voacls on an album called "Wakafrica" produced by Manu Dibango? The album also features Peter Gabriel, and Ladysmith Black mambazo, and a whole cast of others doing covers. A great album. any other feed back? cameron On Wed, 22 Mar 1995, Ken Ficara wrote: > At 23:57 3/21/95 +0001, MEGHAN ELIZABETH-ANN REICHHELD wrote: > >Richard, I would guess that that song you are talking about is "Visions > >of You" that was done by Jawabble (I have know idea if I spelled that > > Jah Wobble is an extremely innovative and funky bass player who was an > original member of Public Image Ltd., the band that John Lydon formed after > breaking up the Sex Pistols and changing his name back from Rotten. > > Does anyone know where to obtain this song that Meghan mentions? > > :) > ken > > ============================================================================== > Ken Ficara ficara@acm.org | If Eric Clapton can beat Otis Rush for > | the Traditional Blues Grammy, perhaps we > | should honor Andy Warhol for his design > http://remus.rutgers.edu/~ficara/ | of the Campbell's soup can. > > > > From dannymi@microsoft.com Wed Mar 22 20:33 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA16166; Wed, 22 Mar 95 20:33:22 PST Received: from netmail2.microsoft.com (netmail2.microsoft.com [131.107.1.13]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA08579; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 20:32:39 -0800 Received: by netmail2.microsoft.com (5.65/25-eef) id AA27690; Wed, 22 Mar 95 20:33:38 -0800 Received: by netmail2 using fxenixd 1.0 Wed, 22 Mar 95 20:33:38 PST Message-Id: <9503230433.AA27690@netmail2.microsoft.com> X-Msmail-Message-Id: A2E5325F X-Msmail-Conversation-Id: A2E5325F From: Danny Miller To: mcb@presto.ig.com, rviolin@ix.netcom.com Date: Wed, 22 Mar 95 20:23:51 PST Subject: Re: That certain Sinead song Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com Content-Type: text Content-Length: 295 Status: RO | Richard, I would guess that that song you are talking about is "Visions | of You" that was done by Jawabble (I have know idea if I spelled that Or you could even mean "You made me the thief of your heart" from the "In the name of the father" soundtrack... - Danny P.S. Hi again, Meghan From dannymi@microsoft.com Wed Mar 22 20:33 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA16170; Wed, 22 Mar 95 20:33:38 PST Received: from netmail2.microsoft.com (netmail2.microsoft.com [131.107.1.13]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA08590; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 20:32:56 -0800 Received: by netmail2.microsoft.com (5.65/25-eef) id AA27720; Wed, 22 Mar 95 20:33:54 -0800 Received: by netmail2 using fxenixd 1.0 Wed, 22 Mar 95 20:33:54 PST Message-Id: <9503230433.AA27720@netmail2.microsoft.com> X-Msmail-Message-Id: 3D4B9F59 X-Msmail-Conversation-Id: 3D4B9F59 From: Danny Miller To: mcb@presto.ig.com, mr94bh@badger.ac.brocku.ca, rviolin@ix.netcom.com Date: Wed, 22 Mar 95 20:26:16 PST Subject: Re: That certain Sinead song Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com Content-Type: text Content-Length: 265 Status: RO | Does anyone know where to obtain this song that Meghan mentions? "Visions Of You" with Sinead helping with vocals is on Jah Wobble's latest album... released last summer, I think, and easily available. There was also a 12" for it, now hard to find. - Danny From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Mar 22 20:38 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA16179; Wed, 22 Mar 95 20:38:05 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA08576 for jitr-dist; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 20:32:06 -0800 Received: from netmail2.microsoft.com (netmail2.microsoft.com [131.107.1.13]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA08573 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 20:32:04 -0800 Received: by netmail2.microsoft.com (5.65/25-eef) id AA27672; Wed, 22 Mar 95 20:33:01 -0800 Received: by netmail2 using fxenixd 1.0 Wed, 22 Mar 95 20:33:01 PST Message-Id: <9503230433.AA27672@netmail2.microsoft.com> X-Msmail-Message-Id: F5FE17CF X-Msmail-Conversation-Id: F5FE17CF From: Danny Miller To: ficara@acm.org, mr94bh@badger.ac.brocku.ca Date: Wed, 22 Mar 95 20:22:35 PST Subject: Re: Sinead on World Cafe Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com Content-Type: text Content-Length: 358 Status: RO | That sounds pretty cool. I really would have liked to hear that | program. One question though, what is NPR? National Public Radio, a syndicated radio news program carried all over the states... I never heard of it until I moved to the States so I don't know if it's carried by anbody in Canada... maybe the CBC? Anyone? - Danny P.S. Hi, Meghan! From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Mar 22 20:38 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA16190; Wed, 22 Mar 95 20:38:28 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA08594 for jitr-dist; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 20:32:58 -0800 Received: from netmail2.microsoft.com (netmail2.microsoft.com [131.107.1.13]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA08590; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 20:32:56 -0800 Received: by netmail2.microsoft.com (5.65/25-eef) id AA27720; Wed, 22 Mar 95 20:33:54 -0800 Received: by netmail2 using fxenixd 1.0 Wed, 22 Mar 95 20:33:54 PST Message-Id: <9503230433.AA27720@netmail2.microsoft.com> X-Msmail-Message-Id: 3D4B9F59 X-Msmail-Conversation-Id: 3D4B9F59 From: Danny Miller To: mcb@presto.ig.com, mr94bh@badger.ac.brocku.ca, rviolin@ix.netcom.com Date: Wed, 22 Mar 95 20:26:16 PST Subject: Re: That certain Sinead song Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com Content-Type: text Content-Length: 265 Status: RO | Does anyone know where to obtain this song that Meghan mentions? "Visions Of You" with Sinead helping with vocals is on Jah Wobble's latest album... released last summer, I think, and easily available. There was also a 12" for it, now hard to find. - Danny From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Mar 22 21:29 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA16293; Wed, 22 Mar 95 21:29:56 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA09039 for jitr-dist; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 21:24:34 -0800 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com (mail04.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.53]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA09036 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 21:24:33 -0800 Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA183846236; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 00:23:56 -0500 From: Kristenly@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 00:23:56 -0500 Message-Id: <950323002353_58274779@aol.com> To: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Visions of You Content-Type: text Content-Length: 207 Status: RO Visions of You is on the CD by Jah Wobble's Invaders of the Heart titled Rising above Bedlam. The CD is great . It was released in the US on Atlantic Records in 1991 and has the label number 7 82386-2. From mcb@presto.ig.com Thu Mar 23 06:55 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA17042; Thu, 23 Mar 95 06:55:25 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA11968 for jitr-dist; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 06:50:34 -0800 Received: from zcias1.ziff.com (zcias1.ziff.com [140.244.1.69]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA11965 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 06:50:33 -0800 Received: from DN-ARNOR by zcias1.ziff.com (PMDF V4.3-10 #6906) id <01HOGXR9CWIO00CJG9@zcias1.ziff.com>; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 09:15:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from arnor.zis.ziff.com by arnor.zis.ziff.com (PMDF V4.3-10 #3828) id <01HOGXN3X28MDWR4UU@arnor.zis.ziff.com>; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 09:15:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 09:15:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam Warren Subject: Re: That certain Sinead song To: jitr@presto.ig.com Message-Id: <01HOGXN3X28ODWR4UU@arnor.zis.ziff.com> X-Envelope-To: jitr@presto.ig.com X-Vms-To: IN%"jitr@presto.ig.com" X-Vms-Cc: I_SW Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Type: text Content-Length: 527 Status: RO >"Visions Of You" with Sinead helping with vocals is on Jah Wobble's >latest album... released last summer, I think, and easily available. >There was also a 12" for it, now hard to find. I'd like to clarify Danny's comment above, just to avoid confusion. "Visions of You" is not on Jah Wobble's latest album. It is on his _Rising Above Bedlam_ album. The latest is called _Take Me To God_, and does not feature Sinead (although she was originally included), but rather Dolores O'Riordan (of the Cranberries) instead. -Sam From cameron@ecst.csuchico.edu Wed Mar 22 18:40 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from napalm.ecst.csuchico.edu by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA15950; Wed, 22 Mar 95 18:40:00 PST Received: (from cameron@localhost) by napalm.ecst.csuchico.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) id SAA02933; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 18:39:18 -0800 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 18:39:17 -0800 (PST) From: Cameron Smith To: "Michael C. Berch" Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Re: Translation request (Portugese) In-Reply-To: <9503222319.AA15346@postmodern.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 643 Status: RO tanslation goea something like: > > Saudacoes! > > > > Sou um fa numero um de Sinead e gostaria de ter > > uma fita cassete dos melhores momentos desta super gata > > posso receber via postal. > > I am a big fan of sinead, I would really like to have a copy of any *great* moments (I assume he means live songs) of this super cat (Sinead). Please mail them to me at the address below. > > Sem mais, de > > > > Paulo Roberto Maia > > Rua Manoel da Nobrega, 81 > > Diadema - SP > > CEP 09910-720 - BRASIL > > oaky so this is a really rough translation, but I'll be damned if those 3 years of spanish will go completely to waste. From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Mar 22 18:40 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA15957; Wed, 22 Mar 95 18:40:20 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA07430 for jitr-dist; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 18:36:07 -0800 Received: from dgicii.mty.itesm.mx (dgicii.mty.itesm.mx [131.178.6.197]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA07427 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 18:36:05 -0800 Received: by dgicii.mty.itesm.mx (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA16995; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 20:36:01 GMT Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 20:36:00 +0000 (CUT) From: "Lic. Jose de Jesus Rocha Pedrajo" Subject: Re: Translation request (Portugese) To: "Michael C. Berch" Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com In-Reply-To: <9503222319.AA15346@postmodern.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1169 Status: RO > Can anyone help me make sense of this? It arrived in the JITR > list request mailbox... > > -- > Michael C. Berch > JITR moderator > mcb@postmodern.com / jitr-request@presto.ig.com > > > Saudacoes! > > Sou um fa numero um de Sinead e gostaria de ter >uma fita cassete dos melhores momentos desta super gata >posso receber via postal. > > Sem mais, de > > Paulo Roberto Maia > Rua Manoel da Nobrega, 81 > Diadema - SP > CEP 09910-720 - BRASIL My first language is spanish and it's similar to portuguese, and i think that Paulo means: Greetings! I'm number one fan of Sinead and I'd like to have a tape ("fita cassete?") of the best moments of this super artist I could receive them by postal way. The weather is very hot here in Rio (:) It's a joke, because i don't know what does Paulo means with "Sem mais, de"). By the way, is there someone in the list who understand spanish? P.S. I've just suscribed too, I love Sinead's music, but here in Mexico there are not much information of her; Why the list is named Jump in the River?. Hasta la vista. Chuy Rocha. Centro de Investigacion en Informatica. ITESM, Monterrey, Mexico. From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Mar 22 18:44 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA15966; Wed, 22 Mar 95 18:43:55 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA07461 for jitr-dist; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 18:39:39 -0800 Received: from napalm.ecst.csuchico.edu (napalm.ecst.csuchico.edu [132.241.1.34]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA07458 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 18:39:38 -0800 Received: (from cameron@localhost) by napalm.ecst.csuchico.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) id SAA02933; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 18:39:18 -0800 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 18:39:17 -0800 (PST) From: Cameron Smith To: "Michael C. Berch" Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Re: Translation request (Portugese) In-Reply-To: <9503222319.AA15346@postmodern.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 643 Status: RO tanslation goea something like: > > Saudacoes! > > > > Sou um fa numero um de Sinead e gostaria de ter > > uma fita cassete dos melhores momentos desta super gata > > posso receber via postal. > > I am a big fan of sinead, I would really like to have a copy of any *great* moments (I assume he means live songs) of this super cat (Sinead). Please mail them to me at the address below. > > Sem mais, de > > > > Paulo Roberto Maia > > Rua Manoel da Nobrega, 81 > > Diadema - SP > > CEP 09910-720 - BRASIL > > oaky so this is a really rough translation, but I'll be damned if those 3 years of spanish will go completely to waste. From mcb@presto.ig.com Thu Mar 23 11:16 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA17458; Thu, 23 Mar 95 11:16:32 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA15265 for jitr-dist; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 11:12:20 -0800 Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA15262 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 11:12:18 -0800 Received: from postmodern.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQyiim07116; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 14:12:12 -0500 Received: by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA17445; Thu, 23 Mar 95 11:12:40 PST Message-Id: <9503231912.AA17445@postmodern.com> From: mcb@postmodern.com (Michael C. Berch) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 11:12:39 -0800 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Re: Translation request (Portugese) Content-Type: text Content-Length: 353 Status: RO Thanks to all who responded to my translation request. Everybody seems to concur on the basics, and if anyone would like to respond directly to Paulo Roberto Maia in Brazil, please go ahead. In the mean time I'll write back and ask if he would like to be on the list. -- Michael C. Berch JITR moderator mcb@postmodern.com jitr-request@presto.ig.com From mcb@presto.ig.com Thu Mar 23 14:47 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA17880; Thu, 23 Mar 95 14:47:20 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA18669 for jitr-dist; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 14:41:18 -0800 Received: from whistler.sfu.ca (root@whistler.sfu.ca [142.58.103.1]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA18666 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 14:41:16 -0800 Received: from kits.sfu.ca (kundarew@kits.sfu.ca [142.58.110.2]) by whistler.sfu.ca with ESMTP (8.6.11/SFU-2.6H) id OAA26835 for (from kundarew); Thu, 23 Mar 1995 14:41:13 -0800 Received: by kits.sfu.ca (8.6.11/SFU-2.5C) id OAA23677 for jitr@presto.ig.com (from kundarew); Thu, 23 Mar 1995 14:41:11 -0800 From: Paul Daniel Kundarewich Message-Id: <199503232241.OAA23677@kits.sfu.ca> Subject: Unsubscribe to jitr-request dammit. Also sinead's quiet voice To: jitr@presto.ig.com Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 14:41:10 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 959 Status: RO Hello: A while back I remeber sinead saying in an article that (along these lines anyhow) that she didn't think she was singing up to her potential. She said wait until I'm free of my pain and then you'll here me sing. So my question is: if that's true when do you think we'll hear the "real" sinead? Does anyone concur with what she said. Can her voice actualy be improved on? kd lang on her ingenue cd said that while recording it she had to divorce herself a little for the emotional that the song brought up or else she sounded flat. Does anyone think parts of Universal mother are like that? Oh well BTW If anyone needs a sinead substitute check out Keneg Katell (sp) O Seasons O Castles (Spelling of title right) (Katell Keneg I can never get her name straight) AND Unsuscribe messages go to jitr-request This is not a difficult concept folks Even I of all people understand where to send these messages. Yeesh. Paul kundarew@sfu.ca From mcb@presto.ig.com Thu Mar 23 19:09 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA19872; Thu, 23 Mar 95 19:09:58 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA00723 for jitr-dist; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 18:52:53 -0800 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com (mail04.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.53]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA00718 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 18:52:52 -0800 Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA250243538; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 21:52:18 -0500 From: SuzyQILVU@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 21:52:18 -0500 Message-Id: <950323215209_59338265@aol.com> To: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: House of the Rising Sun Content-Type: text Content-Length: 292 Status: RO Just picked up the Fire on Babylon single (US) last night. Although I've had the UM album for some time, which I feel has some of Sinead's best work, hearing her do House of the Rising Sun sent chills through me. Feel free to comment. Long time reader, first time writer -Jason Perlman From mcb@presto.ig.com Thu Mar 23 22:30 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA20226; Thu, 23 Mar 95 22:29:59 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA01766 for jitr-dist; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 22:24:33 -0800 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (root@chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA01763 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 22:24:32 -0800 Received: from phakt.usc.edu (straw@phakt.usc.edu [128.125.253.144]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id WAA22040 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 22:24:26 -0800 Received: (straw@localhost) by phakt.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id WAA10350; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 22:24:25 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 22:24:23 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Straw To: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Re: House of the Rising Sun In-Reply-To: <950323215209_59338265@aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 133 Status: RO > Long time reader, first time writer I think the proper(?) verb is "delurking." As I, too, am doing. (So, hi everyone!) Andrew From mcb@presto.ig.com Fri Mar 24 11:21 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA21202; Fri, 24 Mar 95 11:20:53 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA07430 for jitr-dist; Fri, 24 Mar 1995 11:14:25 -0800 Received: from wolfram.ucs.indiana.edu (wolfram.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.181.202]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA07427 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 1995 11:14:23 -0800 Received: from ezmail.ucs.indiana.edu (ezmail.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.181.201]) by wolfram.ucs.indiana.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA02444; Fri, 24 Mar 1995 14:05:54 -0500 Received: by ezmail.ucs.indiana.edu (1.38.110.45/16.2) id AA239591904; Fri, 24 Mar 1995 14:05:04 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 14:05:03 -0500 (EST) From: robert anthony conder X-Sender: rconder@ezmail.ucs.indiana.edu To: SuzyQILVU@aol.com Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Re: House of the Rising Sun In-Reply-To: <950323215209_59338265@aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 751 Status: RO stonger still is the lump in my throat that I believe in you causes...however, i still lean towards the lion and the cobra as far as favorites go...anyone out there agree? i just feel that this album has so much raw aggression...i can't listen to it without having to get up and (at least) move around...if not dance...but that's probably just the raver in me. another lingerer...Twinkie the Kidd. *are there any other ravers on the list? e-mail me personally to get in touch... > Just picked up the Fire on Babylon single (US) last night. Although I've > had the UM album for some time, which I feel has some of Sinead's best work, > hearing her do House of the Rising Sun sent chills through me. Feel free to > comment. From mcb@presto.ig.com Fri Mar 24 20:55 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA23677; Fri, 24 Mar 95 20:55:21 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA12049 for jitr-dist; Fri, 24 Mar 1995 20:48:27 -0800 Received: from ix4.ix.netcom.com (ix4.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.7]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA12046 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 1995 20:48:26 -0800 Received: from by ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.6.11/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id UAA18915; Fri, 24 Mar 1995 20:45:38 -0800 Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 20:45:38 -0800 Message-Id: <199503250445.UAA18915@ix4.ix.netcom.com> From: rviolin@ix.netcom.com (Richard Rivera) Subject: Faves To: jitr@presto.ig.com Content-Type: text Content-Length: 845 Status: RO I don't know, I thought UM was kind of weak. I LOVE Fire, but the rest seemed kind of... I don't know, soft. Although there's nothing wrong with Sinead expressing tender feelings, it's not what I prefer to hear from her. I like it when she kicks ass!!! It's really sick, I know, but I think my favourite of all her albums is Am I Not Your Girl? Strange, I know, because it's not her material, but I think she is a wonderful and innovative interpreter (especially on Don't Cry For Me.. should be interesting to hear Madonna do it shortly.. any opinions?). My favourite Sinead song proper is definitely Three Babies. The part where she sings "The face on you.. the smell of you" in that high register never fails to give me goose bumps. Thanks to all those who responded to "That Certain Sinead Song".. I appreciate it. Brady From mcb@presto.ig.com Sun Mar 26 05:04 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA27055; Sun, 26 Mar 95 05:04:51 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA20500 for jitr-dist; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 04:58:54 -0800 Received: from king.cc.ntu.edu.tw (root@king.cc.ntu.edu.tw [140.112.8.100]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA20497 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 04:58:49 -0800 Received: from ccsun21.cc.ntu.edu.tw (b3102097@ccsun21.cc.ntu.edu.tw [140.112.8.21]) by king.cc.ntu.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id VAA24007; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 21:00:18 +0800 Received: (b3102097@localhost) by ccsun21.cc.ntu.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.11) id VAA06688; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 21:00:42 +0800 Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 21:00:42 +0800 (CST) From: glee To: Paul Daniel Kundarewich Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Re: Unsubscribe to jitr-request dammit. Also sinead's quiet voice In-Reply-To: <199503232241.OAA23677@kits.sfu.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 938 Status: RO Hey Paul, have you got or listened to Sinead's 2 new ones in the Chieftain's "The Long Black Veil"? They are "The Foggy Dew" (said in the booklet 'this song was written in tribute to the men who died in the Easter uprising of 1916') and "He Moved Through The Fair". Personaly i feel it's not quite sinead. She sounds kinda uptight; and her catling metal quality seems to be gone...i wonder if she's still in pain... And about K.d. Lang's "Ingenue"...she sounds great to me. But i'm not sure why she'd have to divorce her feelings...trying not to get overwhelmed thus lose control? Indeed those songs are personal and i think she wouldn't be K.d. Lang if she hid her feelings... Universal Mother. I certainly don't think she's flat...but she's different now...one of my favorites got to be "John I Love You" (is she talking about her ex?), "In This Heart" is great too. Gavin From mcb@presto.ig.com Sun Mar 26 07:27 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA27128; Sun, 26 Mar 95 07:27:47 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA21694 for jitr-dist; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 07:23:35 -0800 Received: from spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (spartan.ac.BrockU.CA [139.57.65.3]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA21691 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 07:23:33 -0800 Received: from badger.ac.BrockU.CA by spartan.ac.BrockU.CA via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for jitr@presto.ig.com id AA04567; Sun, 26 Mar 95 10:25:04 -0500 Received: by badger.ac.BrockU.CA (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @spartan.ac.BrockU.CA:jitr@presto.ig.com id AA14715; Sun, 26 Mar 95 10:21:29 -0500 Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 10:21:28 +0001 (EST) From: MEGHAN ELIZABETH-ANN REICHHELD Subject: Re: House of the Rising Sun To: SuzyQILVU@aol.com Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com In-Reply-To: <950323215209_59338265@aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 671 Status: RO On Thu, 23 Mar 1995 SuzyQILVU@aol.com wrote: > Just picked up the Fire on Babylon single (US) last night. Although I've > had the UM album for some time, which I feel has some of Sinead's best work, > hearing her do House of the Rising Sun sent chills through me. Feel free to > comment. > > Long time reader, first time writer > > -Jason Perlman > I got that song at Christmas time from my good friend,who is also on this list (thanks again!). I always hated that song "House of the Rising Sun" and now that Sinead does it I find myself putting the CD in just to hear that track. I play it a couple of times in a row. It's great! WOW!!!!! Meghan From mcb@presto.ig.com Mon Mar 27 02:56 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA04201; Mon, 27 Mar 95 02:56:06 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA28523 for jitr-dist; Mon, 27 Mar 1995 02:50:35 -0800 Received: from artemis.edu.uch.gr (root@artemis-gw.edu.uch.gr [147.52.80.112]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id CAA28520 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 1995 02:50:24 -0800 Received: from athina.edu.uch.gr by artemis.edu.uch.gr (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA20781; Mon, 27 Mar 1995 13:50:51 -0600 Received: by athina.edu.uch.gr (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA18604; Mon, 27 Mar 1995 13:50:49 -0600 From: med36@athina.edu.uch.gr Message-Id: <9503271950.AA18604@athina.edu.uch.gr> Subject: Fan To: jump-in-the-river@presto.ig.com Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 13:50:49 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 193 Status: RO Hi I am a great fan of Sinead from Crete,Greece.Could u please send me some information about how to subscribe to her internet fan-club? Thank u From mcb@presto.ig.com Tue Mar 28 12:22 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA13858; Tue, 28 Mar 95 12:22:27 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA02220 for jitr-dist; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 12:16:05 -0800 Received: from gw.wmich.edu (gw.wmich.edu [141.218.1.100]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA02217 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 12:16:04 -0800 Received: from piglet.cc.wmich.edu (piglet.cc.wmich.edu [141.218.20.105]) by gw.wmich.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id PAA17564 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 15:16:01 -0500 Received: from wmich.edu by wmich.edu (PMDF V4.3-10 #5064) id <01HOO9GEAU408WWAII@wmich.edu>; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 15:15:59 -0400 (EDT) From: X93PODSIAD@wmich.edu Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 15:14:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: mandinka To: jitr@presto.ig.com Message-Id: <01HOO9SRTW568WWAII@wmich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Length: 79 Status: RO i've always wondered what 'mandinka' is. could anyone help me? thank you. m. From mcb@presto.ig.com Tue Mar 28 13:45 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA13939; Tue, 28 Mar 95 13:45:56 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA03638 for jitr-dist; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 13:40:21 -0800 Received: from whistler.sfu.ca (root@whistler.sfu.ca [142.58.103.1]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA03635 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 13:40:19 -0800 Received: from [142.58.196.32] (mpx8522b.educ.sfu.ca [142.58.196.32]) by whistler.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.6.11/SFU-2.6H) id NAA12478 for (from Kevin_Davison@sfu.ca); Tue, 28 Mar 1995 13:40:12 -0800 From: Kevin_Davison@sfu.ca Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 13:40:12 -0800 Message-Id: <199503282140.NAA12478@whistler.sfu.ca> Sender: kdavison@ferrari.sfu.ca To: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Re: mandinka Content-Type: text Content-Length: 235 Status: RO Re: >i've always wondered what 'mandinka' is. could anyone help me? >thank you. I know this sounds stupid and euro-centric but I heard that it was/is a tribe in Africa that she was writing about. Can anyone confirm this? Kevin From mcb@presto.ig.com Tue Mar 28 16:00 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA14548; Tue, 28 Mar 95 15:59:59 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA07002 for jitr-dist; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 15:54:55 -0800 Received: from inet1.tek.com (inet1.tek.com [134.62.48.21]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA06992 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 15:54:49 -0800 Received: from tektronix.tek.com by inet1.tek.com id ; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 15:54:49 -0800 Received: from mdhost.cse.tek.com (tekadm1.cse.tek.com) by tektronix.TEK.COM (4.1/8.2) id AA08704; Tue, 28 Mar 95 15:53:52 PST Received: from me24.cse.tek.com by mdhost.cse.tek.com (4.1/8.0) id AA16048; Tue, 28 Mar 95 15:54:14 PST From: montys@tekadm1.cse.tek.com Message-Id: <9503282354.AA16048@mdhost.cse.tek.com> To: jitr@presto.ig.COM Subject: If you want to unsubscribe, READ THIS!!!! Date: Tue, 28 Mar 95 15:54:14 PST Sender: montys@tekadm1.cse.tek.com Content-Type: text Content-Length: 377 Status: RO Sending an unsubscribe message to a mail exploder does nothing to unsubscribe you, it just sends it out to the list in general, letting everyone know you don't know what you're doing. To subscribe/unsubscribe, merely add -request to the list name, ie: jitr-request@presto.ig.com So please stop wasting our time and filling our inboxes with your ignorant messages!!!! Monty From mcb@presto.ig.com Tue Mar 28 23:29 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA19040; Tue, 28 Mar 95 23:29:15 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA13268 for jitr-dist; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 23:23:02 -0800 Received: from vse.vse.cz (vse.vse.cz [146.102.16.2]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA13265 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 23:22:53 -0800 Received: from st.vse.cz by vse.vse.cz with SMTP id AA26930 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 29 Mar 1995 09:23:02 +0200 Received: from ST/MAILQUEUE by st.vse.cz (Mercury 1.21); 29 Mar 95 09:23:27 GMT+100 Received: from MAILQUEUE by ST (Mercury 1.21); 29 Mar 95 09:23:08 GMT+100 From: "Kostka Petr - IN,,student,UID=17578" Organization: University of Economics, Prague, CZ To: jitr@presto.ig.com Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 09:23:05 GMT+100 Subject: Re: mandinka X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Message-Id: X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 Content-Type: text Content-Length: 659 Priority: A Status: RO > From: Kevin_Davison@sfu.ca > Date sent: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 13:40:12 -0800 > To: jitr@presto.ig.com > Subject: Re: mandinka > >i've always wondered what 'mandinka' is. could anyone help me? > >thank you. > > I know this sounds stupid and euro-centric but I heard that it was/is a > tribe in Africa that she was writing about. Can anyone confirm this? > > Kevin I have read a book five years ago, its titel was "Roots" (??? - it is translation from Czech titel) from Alex Haley. And there was an African tribe called "Mandingo". Maybe there is a relation between "Mandinka" and "Mandingo". Hope this would help you. From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Mar 29 15:00 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA23493; Wed, 29 Mar 95 15:00:26 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA26290 for jitr-dist; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 14:53:45 -0800 Received: from remarque.berkeley.edu (remarque.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.152.164]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA26287 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 14:53:44 -0800 Received: from localhost by remarque.berkeley.edu (8.6.10/1.31) id OAA09211; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 14:53:31 -0800 Message-Id: <199503292253.OAA09211@remarque.berkeley.edu> To: jitr@presto.ig.com Reply-To: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Re: how to unsubscribe? In-Reply-To: William A Parsons' message of "Mon, 27 Mar 1995 13:29:13 EST." Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 14:53:29 -0800 From: Jym Dyer Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2232 Status: RO > Would someone be kind enough to post the instructions on how > to unsubscribe from this mailing list? =o= I've posted this twice, very recently. here's hoping the third time is the charm (grumble grumble grumble). =o= Clip 'n' save the following for future reference. <_Jym_> =============8<=============Cut-Here=============8<============= How To Unsubscribe From Any Email List For the purposes of this memo, let's assume you're on an email list called WHATEVER at SITE.EDU. The email alias is . (If the list has a name like "WHATEVER-L", you should try step 4 first.) =1= First, send a request to the "-request" alias. For our example, that would be . This is usually read by a human being, so write accordingly. =2= If you get no response from the above, send mail to the "majordomo" alias. That's for our example. If the list is administered by the majordomo software, you'll get instructions for unsubscribing mailed back to you. =3= If you get no response, send mail to the "owner-" alias. For our example, . This should go to the human who administers the list. =4= If you get no response, send mail to "LISTSERV". For our example, that address would be . The text of your message should be "SIGNOFF WHATEVER". =5= If you get no response, send mail to the "listproc" alias. For our example, that address would be . The text of your message should be "unsubscribe WHATEVER". =6= If you get no response, send mail to the site "postmaster". For our example, that address is . Mention that you tried the previous five steps, to no avail. =7= If you get no response, send mail to "root". Our example address is . Mention that you tried the previous six steps, to no avail. =8= If -- and only if -- all the above fail, send a message to the list itself. Make it courteous, particularly since the vast majority of the people reading it can't do a thing about it. Try to avoid setting off a bunch of "me too" messages by saying something like, "Please don't chime in with a bunch of 'I want to unsubscribe too' messages." From mcb@presto.ig.com Thu Mar 30 03:11 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA27050; Thu, 30 Mar 95 03:11:33 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA03869 for jitr-dist; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 03:06:18 -0800 Received: from mercury.unt.edu (mercury.unt.edu [129.120.1.1]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA03866 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 03:06:16 -0800 Received: from acs.unt.edu by mercury.unt.edu with SMTP id AA29156 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 30 Mar 1995 05:06:08 -0600 Received: from ACS/MAILQ by acs.unt.edu (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 30 Mar 95 5:06:55 GMT+6 Received: from MAILQ by ACS (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 29 Mar 95 22:46:53 GMT+6 From: SRIGBY@acs.unt.edu To: jitr@presto.ig.com Organization: Academic Computing Services Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 22:45:36 CST Subject: Re: favorites X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Mac v2.0.5 Message-Id: <1EE8ADE76D7@acs.unt.edu> Content-Type: text Content-Length: 647 Priority: A Status: RO >however, i still lean towards the lion and the cobra as far as >favorites go...anyone out there agree? i just feel that this album has >so much raw aggression...i can't listen to it without having to get up >and (at least) move around...if not dance...but that's probably just the >raver in me. I completely agree! I got this album a few years after I got _I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got_...actually even after _Am I Not Your Girl_, and although I love the others, it is by far my favorite. Nothing is suppressed on this album. Her emotion gives me chills even now. I particularly love "Just Like You Said It Would Be"! -Shannon From mcb@presto.ig.com Thu Mar 30 11:48 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA27876; Thu, 30 Mar 95 11:48:21 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA09115 for jitr-dist; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 11:39:19 -0800 Received: from napalm.ecst.csuchico.edu (cameron@napalm.ecst.csuchico.edu [132.241.1.34]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA09110 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 11:39:14 -0800 Received: (from cameron@localhost) by napalm.ecst.csuchico.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) id LAA26895; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 11:39:08 -0800 Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 11:39:08 -0800 (PST) From: Cameron Smith To: SRIGBY@acs.unt.edu Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Re: favorites In-Reply-To: <1EE8ADE76D7@acs.unt.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 450 Status: RO Ooh I agree that the lion and the cobra is potent stuff and indeed her most raw album, but I'd have to go with "I do not want what I have not got" as my favorite, despite it's commerical popularity. I mean come on... three babies, jitr (our namesake), that prine song ;-) ,black boys on mopeds, and of course one of my alltime favorites.... Last day of our acquantiance. What do you all think re: *red football* on the universal mother CD? From mcb@presto.ig.com Thu Mar 30 12:53 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA27959; Thu, 30 Mar 95 12:53:36 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA09212 for jitr-dist; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 11:45:18 -0800 Received: from napalm.ecst.csuchico.edu (cameron@napalm.ecst.csuchico.edu [132.241.1.34]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA09207 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 11:45:17 -0800 Received: (from cameron@localhost) by napalm.ecst.csuchico.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) id LAA09875; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 11:45:13 -0800 Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 11:45:12 -0800 (PST) From: Cameron Smith To: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: favorites Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 455 Status: RO Ooh I agree that the lion and the cobra is potent stuff and indeed her most raw album, but I'd have to go with "I do not want what I have not got" as my favorite, despite it's commerical popularity. I mean come on... three babies, jitr (our namesake), that prine song ;-) ,black boys on mopeds, and of course one of my alltime favorites.... Last day of our acquantiance. What do you all think re: *red football* on the universal mother CD? From mcb@presto.ig.com Thu Mar 30 13:44 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA28095; Thu, 30 Mar 95 13:44:40 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA10688 for jitr-dist; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 13:39:32 -0800 Received: from dgicii.mty.itesm.mx (dgicii.mty.itesm.mx [131.178.6.197]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA10684 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 13:39:27 -0800 Received: by dgicii.mty.itesm.mx (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA35594; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 15:39:15 GMT Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 15:39:15 +0000 (CUT) From: "Lic. Jose de Jesus Rocha Pedrajo" Subject: Re: favorites To: Cameron Smith Cc: SRIGBY@acs.unt.edu, jitr@presto.ig.com In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 786 Status: RO On Thu, 30 Mar 1995, Cameron Smith wrote: > Ooh I agree that the lion and the cobra is potent stuff and indeed her > most raw album, but I'd have to go with "I do not want what I have not > got" as my favorite, despite it's commerical popularity. I mean come on... > three babies, jitr (our namesake), that prine song ;-) ,black boys on > mopeds, and of course one of my alltime favorites.... > Last day of our acquantiance. Hi!: I agree that The last day of our acquaintance is a stronger song (Sad, but strong), it is just a Great Song, unfortunately I've not heard her new one, One of the greatest song that Sinead gives a "sui generis" version is Sacrifice (from Two Rooms)... and one from the Lion & the Cobra: Drink before the War Nos vemos. Chuy Rocha From mcb@presto.ig.com Thu Mar 30 15:15 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA28925; Thu, 30 Mar 95 15:15:32 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA12640 for jitr-dist; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 15:11:13 -0800 Received: from inet1.tek.com (inet1.tek.com [134.62.48.21]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA12637 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 15:11:11 -0800 Received: from tektronix.tek.com by inet1.tek.com id ; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 15:11:12 -0800 Received: from mdhost.cse.tek.com (tekadm1.cse.tek.com) by tektronix.TEK.COM (4.1/8.2) id AA22135; Thu, 30 Mar 95 15:09:58 PST Received: from me24.cse.tek.com by mdhost.cse.tek.com (4.1/8.0) id AA05079; Thu, 30 Mar 95 15:10:37 PST From: montys@tekadm1.cse.tek.com Message-Id: <9503302310.AA05079@mdhost.cse.tek.com> To: jitr@presto.ig.COM Subject: Re: If you want to unsubscribe, READ THIS!!!! Date: Thu, 30 Mar 95 15:10:36 PST Sender: montys@tekadm1.cse.tek.com Content-Type: text Content-Length: 448 Status: RO Well, I have been sufficiently humbled regarding my posting. It appears that the list admin is, let's just say "slow" to respond, and it isn't so much a matter of people not knowing how to unsubscribe as it is being removed once they've taken the correct actions. So to those I've offended, I sincerely apologize! And to the guy who told me I was a stupid a**hole in four-letter and misspelled words, I enjoyed the irony in your message! Monty From mcb@presto.ig.com Thu Mar 30 15:53 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA29201; Thu, 30 Mar 95 15:53:46 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA13447 for jitr-dist; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 15:50:08 -0800 Received: from relay1.Hawaii.Edu (relay1.Hawaii.Edu [128.171.41.53]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA13435 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 15:50:05 -0800 Received: from uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu ([128.171.44.54]) by relay1.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <11356(6)>; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 13:49:51 -1000 Received: by uhunix4.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (4.1/Sun690) id AA23728; Thu, 30 Mar 95 13:48:30 HST Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 13:48:29 -1000 From: THE RAT To: jitr@presto.ig.com In-Real-Life: Greg Bueno Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1503 Status: RO Title/Organization: President, The Richard Ching Fan Club Subject: Re: favorites In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 30 Mar 1995 09:45:12 -1000 Message-Id: content-length: 1273 >From a musical standpoint, "Lion" is far better than "I Do Not Want." By this, I mean arrangements. The songs on "Lion" have a lot more drama. The strings on "Troy," the organ on "Drink Before the War," the synth-bass on "Jerusalem" are only some of the many colorful flourishes that make "Lion" a powerful album. Certainly, "I Do Not Want" is certainly emotional, and her lyrics are brutally honest. Yet musically, it is a dead album. "Universal Mother" is as introspective as "I Do Not Want" but UM's songs have a sense of proportion that IDW's songs don't. When I listen to IDW, I often get the feeling that the songs start, trundle along, then stop. The conclusion of "Emperor's New Clothes," for instance, drags. Just as "Last Day" starts getting interesting, the song ends, and the strings on "Feels So Different" don't do much of anything. All this is my two yen, of course. This is the type of thread that ultimately boils down to personal taste anyway. ========================================================================= "I never liked a man I didn't meet" -- from "Mrs. Parker and the Vicious Circle" Greg Bueno bueno@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu ========================================================================= From mcb@presto.ig.com Thu Mar 30 22:42 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA29895; Thu, 30 Mar 95 22:42:47 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA17407 for jitr-dist; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 22:38:38 -0800 Received: from wolfram.ucs.indiana.edu (wolfram.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.181.202]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA17404 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 22:38:36 -0800 Received: from ezmail.ucs.indiana.edu (ezmail.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.181.201]) by wolfram.ucs.indiana.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id BAA15330; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 01:33:54 -0500 Received: by ezmail.ucs.indiana.edu (1.38.110.45/16.2) id AA041451634; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 01:33:54 -0500 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 01:33:54 -0500 (EST) From: robert anthony conder X-Sender: rconder@ezmail.ucs.indiana.edu To: Cameron Smith Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Re: favorites In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 264 Status: RO > > > What do you all think re: *red football* on the universal mother CD? > if i had to pick a favorite on UN it would most likly be this song...probably because i am so very fond of the part where she wails at the end. twinkie the kidd xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From mcb@presto.ig.com Fri Mar 31 08:50 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA01723; Fri, 31 Mar 95 08:50:42 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA20938 for jitr-dist; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 08:43:16 -0800 Received: from remus.rutgers.edu (root@remus.rutgers.edu [128.6.13.3]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA20935 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 08:43:13 -0800 Received: from [192.67.236.41] (ficara.jvnc.net [192.67.236.41]) by remus.rutgers.edu (8.6.11+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA10311 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 11:43:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199503311643.LAA10311@remus.rutgers.edu> X-Sender: ficara@remus.rutgers.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 11:54:40 -0500 To: jitr@presto.ig.com From: ficara@acm.org (Ken Ficara) Subject: Re: favorites Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Length: 2064 Status: RO I have to admit I'm mystified by people saying that LION is their favorite album. I like it a lot, but I don't think it's either as mature or as unified an album as I DO NOT WANT. I supose that if you're into the "harder core" Sinead then L&C is probably your favorite (and probably always will be, since she seems to be moving more and more towards quieter songs, given the progression of LION to WANT to MOTHER). WANT is by far my favorite of her albums, and will probably end up as one of my favorite albums of the 90s, unless a whole lot of stuff happens in the next five years. It's an incredibly powerful album, almost painful at times. LION didn't seem to have any underlying theme aside from the ones that run through all her music, but WANT is all about walking up and out of a really bad time in your life. Perhaps it affects me so much because it came out during a year when I was doing the same thing, but from the opening serenity prayer to the last song about acceptance, and through all the anger and pain and hurt in between, that album works as a spectacular unit for me. I'd rank them as follows: 1. WANT 2. MOTHER (Yeah, it's very soft and pretty, but I love folk music when it's done well, and I always enjoy listening to someone sing their songs alone if they're good songs). (And what about FIRE and FAMINE?) 3. LION (Don't get me wrong, it's a great album, but it seems disjointed and hasn't aged as well as I thought it would) 4. GIRL (Sorry, Sinead. I really respect you for releasing this album, and one of the things I love about your music is that it's influenced by people like Billie Holiday, but you're not Billie or Ella. Just because you love someone's music doesn't mean you can sing it). ============================================================================== Ken Ficara ficara@acm.org | The Oscars are like a box of chocolates. | | "Crunchy FROG???" http://remus.rutgers.edu/~ficara/ | "Certainly, sir. It's a best-seller." From mcb@presto.ig.com Fri Mar 31 10:21 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA01908; Fri, 31 Mar 95 10:21:31 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA22402 for jitr-dist; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 10:15:33 -0800 Received: from relay1.Hawaii.Edu (relay1.Hawaii.Edu [128.171.41.53]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA22399 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 10:15:31 -0800 Received: from uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu ([128.171.44.54]) by relay1.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <11340(8)>; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 08:15:19 -1000 Received: by uhunix4.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (4.1/Sun690) id AA06306; Fri, 31 Mar 95 08:14:02 HST Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 08:14:00 -1000 From: THE RAT To: jitr@presto.ig.com In-Real-Life: Greg Bueno Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2444 Status: RO Title/Organization: President, The Richard Ching Fan Club Subject: Re: favorites In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 31 Mar 1995 06:54:40 -1000 Message-Id: content-length: 2215 > I supose that if you're into the "harder core" Sinead then L&C is probably > your favorite (and probably always will be, since she seems to be moving > more and more towards quieter songs, given the progression of LION to WANT > to MOTHER). I have no statistics to prove this, but I think Sinead fans can be divided up into two categories: before WANT and after WANT. The former fans caught onto Sinead early and consider L&C their pinnacle. The latter fans latched onto the soul baring of WANT and stick with that. Just an observation. > WANT is by far my favorite of her albums, and will probably end up as one > of my favorite albums of the 90s, unless a whole lot of stuff happens in > the next five years. It's an incredibly powerful album, almost painful at > times. LION didn't seem to have any underlying theme aside from the ones > that run through all her music, but WANT is all about walking up and out of > a really bad time in your life. Perhaps it affects me so much because it > came out during a year when I was doing the same thing, but from the > opening serenity prayer to the last song about acceptance, and through all > the anger and pain and hurt in between, that album works as a spectacular > unit for me. Around the time WANT came out, my brother hated all the post-punk music I was listening to. I was surprised, however, when he asked me to borrow my copy of WANT. I assumed he was not in Sinead's market. He ended up buying his own copy for the exact same reasons Ken has listed. He related to about 95% of the album. Sometimes I wonder if something around 88-89 happened to whole bunch of people that gave WANT such a wide-spread impact. Yeah, I've heard all that stuff about the "Nothing Compares" video (which I've never seen since I don't have MTV :) but I doubt that's it. Sinead bared her soul, and people - a good 3 million of them - just happened to relate to it. ========================================================================= "I never liked a man I didn't meet" -- from "Mrs. Parker and the Vicious Circle" Greg Bueno bueno@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu ========================================================================= From mcb@presto.ig.com Fri Mar 31 11:33 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA02415; Fri, 31 Mar 95 11:33:11 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA24251 for jitr-dist; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 11:27:46 -0800 Received: from remus.rutgers.edu (root@remus.rutgers.edu [128.6.13.3]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA24248 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 11:27:44 -0800 Received: from [192.67.236.41] (ficara.jvnc.net [192.67.236.41]) by remus.rutgers.edu (8.6.11+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.11) with SMTP id OAA01093; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 14:27:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199503311927.OAA01093@remus.rutgers.edu> X-Sender: ficara@remus.rutgers.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 14:39:05 -0500 To: THE RAT , jitr@presto.ig.com From: ficara@acm.org (Ken Ficara) Subject: Re: favorites Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Length: 1778 Status: RO >I have no statistics to prove this, but I think Sinead fans can be divided >up into two categories: before WANT and after WANT. The former fans caught >onto Sinead early and consider L&C their pinnacle. The latter fans latched >onto the soul baring of WANT and stick with that. Just an observation. Well, I don't fit into either. I bought L&C when it came out, on the strength of what I'd heard on the radio and her Irish name. I loved it then and still love it now (I just love WANT more!). In fact, the year before WANT came out, Neneh Cherry's first album came out, and I remember having a tape with her on one side and L&C on the other in my car for long enough that the writing faded on the card. >Sometimes I wonder if something around 88-89 happened to whole bunch of people WANT came out in 1990; my experiences were completely personal and not at all related to the "times." I just had a shitty year. >the "Nothing Compares" video (which I've never seen since I don't have MTV :) I don't have TV period, and haven't since before WANT came out, so the video didn't influence me. >but I doubt that's it. Sinead bared her soul, and people - a good 3 million >of them - just happened to relate to it. Yes! I think that's the bottom line, and perhaps the difference between L&C and WANT -- she's a lot more vulnerable on WANT, much more honest, not trying to hide behind abstractions or allegories. Same is true of MOTHER, actually. ============================================================================== Ken Ficara ficara@acm.org | The Oscars are like a box of chocolates. | | "Crunchy FROG???" http://remus.rutgers.edu/~ficara/ | "Certainly, sir. It's a best-seller." From mcb@presto.ig.com Fri Mar 31 12:12 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA02660; Fri, 31 Mar 95 12:12:47 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA24928 for jitr-dist; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 12:06:10 -0800 Received: from relay1.Hawaii.Edu (relay1.Hawaii.Edu [128.171.41.53]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA24925 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 12:06:07 -0800 Received: from uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu ([128.171.44.54]) by relay1.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <11333(5)>; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 10:05:51 -1000 Received: by uhunix4.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (4.1/Sun690) id AA22414; Fri, 31 Mar 95 10:04:18 HST Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 10:04:14 -1000 From: THE RAT To: jitr@presto.ig.com In-Real-Life: Greg Bueno Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1575 Status: RO Title/Organization: President, The Richard Ching Fan Club Subject: Re: favorites In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 31 Mar 1995 09:39:05 -1000 Message-Id: content-length: 1346 >>Sometimes I wonder if something around 88-89 happened to whole bunch of people > > WANT came out in 1990; my experiences were completely personal and not at > all related to the "times." I just had a shitty year. Actually, that's what I was trying to drive at. My brother and I look back on the late 80s with disdain, but for our own personal reasons. WANT is one of those albums that people can relate to on individual bases, and yet so many people related to it! > >but I doubt that's it. Sinead bared her soul, and people - a good 3 million > >of them - just happened to relate to it. > > Yes! I think that's the bottom line, and perhaps the difference between L&C > and WANT -- she's a lot more vulnerable on WANT, much more honest, not > trying to hide behind abstractions or allegories. Same is true of MOTHER, > actually. Come to think of it, the songs on L&C were written during Sinead's teen years. Her abstractions are probably more attributable to a young person finding a comfortable artistic voice than anything else. ========================================================================= "I never liked a man I didn't meet" -- from "Mrs. Parker and the Vicious Circle" Greg Bueno bueno@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu ========================================================================= From mcb@presto.ig.com Fri Mar 31 15:29 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA03224; Fri, 31 Mar 95 15:28:46 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA27392 for jitr-dist; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 15:22:00 -0800 Received: from remus.rutgers.edu (root@remus.rutgers.edu [128.6.13.3]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA27389 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 15:21:58 -0800 Received: from [192.67.236.41] (ficara.jvnc.net [192.67.236.41]) by remus.rutgers.edu (8.6.11+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA03348; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 18:21:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199503312321.SAA03348@remus.rutgers.edu> X-Sender: ficara@remus.rutgers.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 18:33:26 -0500 To: Quentin From: ficara@acm.org (Ken Ficara) Subject: Re: favorites Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Length: 1739 Status: RO I often enjoy Sinead's covers -- my criticism of GIRL has nothing to do with her ability to do covers. As an example, her cover of "I Believe in You" is one of the few Dylan covers I've ever LIKED. I usually hate to hear people attempt his songs because failure is nearly inevitable. We simply have to disagree with the suitability of her voice for jazz vocals. I love her singing but she was out of her element on GIRL. There were a few good songs (B,B and B was perhaps the best) but overall my favorite track was the monologue at the end of the album. >Being very feeling and able to convey loss and love and bewilder >ment ("Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered"),she is able to do what few artists > are capable. I really can't agree with this at all. Quite a few artists are capable of singing that material better than Sinead did, not least those who performed those songs originally. You're certainly right that she can convey loss and love and bewilderment but I think she does it much better with her own songs than with those covers. I simply cannot think of her alongside Billie Holiday -- it's like comparing apples and hamburgers. >ahead and screamed on "Fire", but I was impressed by her expanded range. I use >to be able to sing along with her in my chest voice,now,I have to punch in head >voice, all right, Sinead ! I never thought about this -- that's a good way to put it. :) ken ============================================================================== Ken Ficara ficara@acm.org | The Oscars are like a box of chocolates. | | "Crunchy FROG???" http://remus.rutgers.edu/~ficara/ | "Certainly, sir. It's a best-seller." From mcb@presto.ig.com Fri Mar 31 15:30 PST 1995 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by postmodern.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4/GCA-Makitso-941228-mcb1) id AA03228; Fri, 31 Mar 95 15:30:17 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA27401 for jitr-dist; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 15:22:14 -0800 Received: from remus.rutgers.edu (root@remus.rutgers.edu [128.6.13.3]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA27398 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 15:22:12 -0800 Received: from [192.67.236.41] (ficara.jvnc.net [192.67.236.41]) by remus.rutgers.edu (8.6.11+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA03352; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 18:21:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199503312321.SAA03352@remus.rutgers.edu> X-Sender: ficara@remus.rutgers.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 18:33:36 -0500 To: THE RAT , jitr@presto.ig.com From: ficara@acm.org (Ken Ficara) Subject: Re: favorites Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Length: 725 Status: RO >Come to think of it, the songs on L&C were written during Sinead's teen years. >Her abstractions are probably more attributable to a young person finding a >comfortable artistic voice than anything else. I think you're right. Which brings up an interesting point -- I think her music has matured greatly since the first album. Do those who like the first album better feel like it hasn't? ============================================================================== Ken Ficara ficara@acm.org | The Oscars are like a box of chocolates. | | "Crunchy FROG???" http://remus.rutgers.edu/~ficara/ | "Certainly, sir. It's a best-seller."