From mcb@presto.ig.com Mon Oct 3 14:43:41 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id OAA06991; Mon, 3 Oct 1994 14:43:27 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id OAA06203 for jitr-dist; Mon, 3 Oct 1994 14:38:57 -0700 Received: from relay1.Hawaii.Edu (relay1.Hawaii.Edu [128.171.41.53]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA06200 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 1994 14:38:55 -0700 Received: from uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu ([128.171.44.52]) by relay1.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <11388>; Mon, 3 Oct 1994 11:18:34 -1000 Received: by uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu id <148512>; Mon, 3 Oct 1994 11:18:08 -1000 Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 11:17:55 -1000 From: THE RAT To: jitr@presto.ig.com In-real-life: Greg Bueno Title/Organization: President, The Richard Ching Fan Club Subject: Re: Well, I'm pissed again... In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 2 Oct 1994 19:17:10 -1000 Message-ID: Status: OR > P.S. If anyone would like a copy of this article I can type it up and post > it, but otherwise you can get Pulse for free at any Tower Records (you > certainly don't want to pay money for this garbage). Hmm. Well, I read -- and like -- Pulse because they aren't afraid to pan musicians that are usually flame retardant. Not only that, they're rather good at covering a lot of genres. I agree that the Sinead review is obviously biased, but it's one reviewer's opinion against many. The Rolling Stone review is much more positive, but the same criticisms that appear in Schinder's review (the politics, the self-pity) show up there as well. Still, RS gave the album 3 1/2 stars (or was it 4?) and said that the album works well because of its inconsistencies. (I buy RS on an issue-by-issue basis and am paraphrasing the RS review by memory. Maybe a regular RS reader should transcribe the article for better reference.) ========================================================================= "Kaji! Kaji! Kaji!" -- Beavis and Butthead...in Japanese Greg Bueno bueno@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu ========================================================================= From mcb@presto.ig.com Mon Oct 3 16:24:45 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id QAA23647; Mon, 3 Oct 1994 16:24:34 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id QAA09558 for jitr-dist; Mon, 3 Oct 1994 16:16:47 -0700 Received: from relay1.Hawaii.Edu (relay1.Hawaii.Edu [128.171.41.53]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA09555 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 1994 16:16:46 -0700 Received: from uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu ([128.171.44.52]) by relay1.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <11371>; Mon, 3 Oct 1994 13:16:29 -1000 Received: by uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu id <148512>; Mon, 3 Oct 1994 13:16:03 -1000 Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 13:15:55 -1000 From: THE RAT To: jitr@presto.ig.com In-real-life: Greg Bueno Title/Organization: President, The Richard Ching Fan Club Subject: REVIEW: eyeWEEKLY Message-ID: Status: OR >From the friendly Toronto folks of eyeWEEKLY... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Subject: REVIEW REVIEW :Subject SINAD O'CONNOR Universal Mother Virgin/EMI by PERRY STERN Sinad O'Connor possesses a prodigious talent. Her voice and ability to make it soar heavenward with apparent ease then let it flutter back to earth, without the slightest diminution of emotional impact, is hardly less than a miracle. Any opportunity to enjoy that talent -- particularly in a live context -- should be seized, then marvelled over, because no one can wrench more power out of a song than she. On Universal Mother, O'Connor displays her singing and songwriting abilities perhaps better than on any of her previous three albums. She also makes her audience work more for its pleasure. In the liner notes, O'Connor suggests that the album "can be best appreciated" when listened to in its entirety and on headphones. She's absolutely right. As a set piece the album is almost an opera about a woman -- a mother -- in Ireland who wrangles with her role in a society rife with evil but littered with an abundance of love. She loves her child ("My Darling Child"), loves the father of her child ("John I Love You"), loves the god that made the child ("All Babies"), but hates that god's church ("Fire In Babylon") and fears the world that church has made. On "Famine," O'Connor offers nothing less than a spoken history lesson/therapy session on the state of Ireland's health. This is most definitely not an album to throw on while doing housework or hosting dinner parties. Nor will it offer up singles (other than the atypically martial pomp of "Fire In Babylon") for radio fodder. It really is best listened to tethered to the stereo, perhaps even in a dark room, where you can spend 50 uninterrupted minutes listening to O'Connor's lovely voice and thinking about what she's singing about. But for the previously mentioned exception, Universal Mother is an exceedingly personal and quiet album. Mostly arranged for voice and piano/keyboards, the songs are eerie in their openness. Of course some will regard this record as the worst kind of navel- gazing, all wrapped up in one 27-year-old's obsession with analyzing her all-too-eventful life. But listen to her adamant declaration of independence on "Red Football" followed by the morose resignation of Nirvana's "All Apologies" and once again you find yourself allied with her, regardless of how many injudicious statements she makes to the press or how many pictures of the Pope she rips up. Universal Mother is not a pop record that you can recommend simply for pure musical enjoyment, but it is the kind that sounds awfully damn good, while, more importantly, making you think and feel. -- PERRY STERN ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Retransmit freely in cyberspace Author holds standard copyright Full issue of eye available in archive ==> gopher.io.org or ftp.io.org Mailing list available http://www.io.org/eye eye@io.org "Break the Gutenberg Lock..." 416-971-8421 From mcb@presto.ig.com Mon Oct 3 17:32:35 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id RAA07880; Mon, 3 Oct 1994 17:32:22 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id RAA10955 for jitr-dist; Mon, 3 Oct 1994 17:27:23 -0700 Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA10950 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 1994 17:27:22 -0700 Received: from venus.mcs.com (root@Venus.mcs.com [192.160.127.83]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA05195 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 1994 19:27:19 -0500 Received: by venus.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1) id ; Mon, 3 Oct 94 19:27 CDT Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 19:27:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Carolyn Andre To: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: This week's charts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR The October 8, 1994 issue shows UNIVERSAL MOTHER: #19 (up from 22) on the 1-Oct "Hits of the UK/Hits of the World" #19 (NEW) on the Canadian Album chart #47 (up from 36) in its 2nd week on the Billboard 200 Albums Plus Friday morning, I did wake up to a song from the album playing on WXRT here in Chicago. Tho I call them 'mainstream alternative', that's encouraging. P.S. Rat - thanx for that review! Carolyn Andre/Chicago candre@mcs.com From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon Oct 3 21:34:35 PDT 1994 Return-Path: jitr-request Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id KAA01622 for jitr-dist; Mon, 3 Oct 1994 10:42:38 -0700 Received: from SNYBUFAA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU (SYSTEM@snybufaa.cs.snybuf.edu [136.183.10.1]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA01619 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 1994 10:42:35 -0700 Received: from SNYBUFAA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU by SNYBUFAA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU (PMDF V4.3-7 #5424) id <01HHUALFHKWW90NMKD@SNYBUFAA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>; Mon, 3 Oct 1994 13:41:03 EST From: GRUTTE09@snybufaa.cs.snybuf.edu Date: Mon, 03 Oct 1994 13:41:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: Tower & Pulse To: jitr@presto.ig.com Message-id: <01HHUALFHY3M90NMKD@SNYBUFAA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU> Organization: from SUNY College at Buffalo, NY 14222 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: OR If you wouldn't mind Ziad could you post the "article"? Since I moved up to Buffalo I haven't seen a Tower Records in a while. I guess I should introduce myself (since I'm a newbee here) Hello all!!! My name is Eric, I'm going to school up at Buffalo State, but I'm from Long Island. I'm also (what a shock) a HUUGGGEEE lover of Sinead. I'm looking to trade item's and so forth with others. I have the Lion and the Cage (a bootleg of a live concert somewhere in Europe), two books writen about her, all her video tapes, and quite a few magazine articles. I'm looking for Sinead's acting debut on TV "Hush a bye baby" I think it was called, it was an English after school special kinda thing. If anyone has any information where I can get a copy or wants to find out more about my stuff my E-Mail is: GRUTTE09@SNYBUFAA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU I don't know what was talked about so far so forgive me if I repeat something that was writen before but did anyone read the article in Q I think it was last months, They had a nice long article/interview talking about her folks and her suicide attempt. There is also a couple of picture with her wearing an Irish Princess shirt. Thanks alot folks, hope to be hearing from ya soon! Eric G. GRUTTE09@SNYBUFAA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU From mcb@presto.ig.com Tue Oct 4 12:08:56 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id MAA22921; Tue, 4 Oct 1994 12:08:49 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id MAA21918 for jitr-dist; Tue, 4 Oct 1994 12:03:13 -0700 Received: from venus.twu.edu (venus.twu.edu [192.135.186.1]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA21915 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 1994 12:03:11 -0700 From: u_mclaurin@VENUS.TWU.EDU Received: by VENUS.TWU.EDU (MX V4.1 VAX) id 239; Tue, 04 Oct 1994 14:01:44 CST Date: Tue, 04 Oct 1994 14:01:34 CST To: JITR@PRESTO.IG.COM Message-ID: <00985718.E818F100.239@VENUS.TWU.EDU> Subject: SINEAD O'CONNOR Status: OR i WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHEN SINEAD O"CONNOR WILL GO ON TOUR. i LIVE IN DALLAS AND I AM VERY ANXIOUS TO SEE HER IN CONCERT. IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO. PLEASE PRES RESPOND. THANK YOU CYNTHIA MCLAURIN From mcb@presto.ig.com Tue Oct 4 17:19:32 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id RAA00364; Tue, 4 Oct 1994 17:19:13 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id RAA24953 for jitr-dist; Tue, 4 Oct 1994 17:14:24 -0700 Received: from gw.wmich.edu (gw.wmich.edu [141.218.1.100]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA24950 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 1994 17:14:22 -0700 From: X93PODSIAD@wmich.edu Received: from piglet.cc.wmich.edu (piglet.cc.wmich.edu [141.218.20.105]) by gw.wmich.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA21582 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 1994 20:14:19 -0400 Received: from wmich.edu by wmich.edu (PMDF V4.3-10 #5064) id <01HHW2ORIM0G8Y9G8I@wmich.edu>; Tue, 04 Oct 1994 20:15:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 04 Oct 1994 20:06:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: sinead nontour To: JITR@presto.ig.com Message-id: <01HHW391XGLM8Y9G8I@wmich.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: OR u_mclaurin@VENUS.TWU.EDU writes: >i WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHEN SINEAD O"CONNOR >WILL GO ON TOUR. as far as i've heard, she won't be touring with this album. someone on JITR posted info about this but i'm afraid i've deleted the post. perhaps someone still has it, or knows more about sinead's plans. -m. From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Oct 5 06:17:57 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id GAA02393; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 06:17:53 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id GAA29431 for jitr-dist; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 06:13:13 -0700 Received: from csn.org (root@csn.org [128.138.213.21]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA29428 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 06:13:02 -0700 Received: from tiag.com by csn.org with SMTP id AA10921 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 5 Oct 1994 07:11:41 -0600 Received: by tiag.com (NX5.67d/NX3.0M) id AA00385; Tue, 4 Oct 94 16:25:04 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 Oct 94 16:25:04 -0400 From: Amy Young Message-Id: <9410042025.AA00385@tiag.com> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.100) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.100) To: SnailShell@aol.com Subject: Re: Well, I'm pissed again... Cc: jitr@presto.ig.com Status: OR He then goes on to sing the praises of The Cranberries as just what I think they are: a poor man's Sinead O'Connor. -- I'm glad I'm not the only that thinks this. From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Oct 5 08:06:19 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id IAA17036; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 08:06:13 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id IAA00312 for jitr-dist; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 08:01:06 -0700 Received: from vtucs.cc.vt.edu (mail.bev.net [128.173.4.72]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA00309 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 08:01:05 -0700 Message-Id: <199410051501.IAA00309@presto.ig.com> Received: from dino.cc.vt.edu by vtucs.cc.vt.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA08856; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 11:00:59 -0400 X-Sender: aosterlu@mail.vt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 11:01:02 -0400 To: jitr@presto.ig.com From: aosterlu@vt.edu (andrew osterlund) Subject: Poor Man's? Status: OR >He then goes on to sing the praises of The Cranberries as just what I >think they are: a poor man's Sinead >O'Connor. As best as I remember, my Cranberries CD cost just as stinking much as any Sinead CD I've bought! Come on. The industry has a lot of very talented musicians in it. To say that one group or singer isn't valid as themself because they emulate the styles or ideals of another group or singer- is pretty closed minded and just lame. In case you haven't been around most of the outside world, I would even dare say the majority of people in listening distance of music as a generality would not support much validity on the part of pretty much anything Sinead has ever done. Grow up a little here. If another band is supporting what styles or ideals you already appreciate and is doing it in a non-plagiarizing and quality way, isn't that pretty cool in itself just for the sake of variety at least by name in your collection? From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Oct 5 09:48:16 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id JAA04212; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 09:48:06 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id JAA01772 for jitr-dist; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 09:40:27 -0700 Received: from buclaa.bu.edu (BUCLAA.BU.EDU [128.197.70.80]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA01769 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 09:40:25 -0700 Received: by buclaa.bu.edu (5.61+++/SMI-4.0.3) id AA23240; Wed, 5 Oct 94 12:38:18 -0400 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 94 12:38:18 -0400 From: rfd@buclaa.bu.edu (Richard F. Delano) Message-Id: <9410051638.AA23240@buclaa.bu.edu> To: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Cranberries-Sinead Status: OR >If another band is supporting what styles or ideals you already appreciate >and is doing it in a non-plagiarizing and quality way, isn't that pretty >cool in itself just for the sake of variety at least by name in your >collection? I believe this is where the disagreement lies. I wouldn't exactly say that the Cranberries are 'non-plagiarizing'. Besides the obvious copycat look, the vocals are nothing short of Sinead imitations. Take the Cranberries new single (please!) "Zombie". The very last part of the song where Delores blatantly rips off "Troy". It's hard to describe which part since it's not actually words being sung, but it's a definite Sinead-like moan, if you will. Before I'm labeled as being one of those 'Sinead is all that matters' types, think again. I do not use Sinead as the yardstick for all other artists. If that artist is blatantly using the same sound and look however, I feel like I can use that comparison. And yes, I have plenty of variety in my collection without the Cranberries. If you want 'non-plagiarizing and quality' then I recommend Sarah McLachlan. Rich From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Oct 5 10:50:09 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id KAA03817; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 10:50:00 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id KAA02663 for jitr-dist; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 10:44:11 -0700 Received: from mgm.saic.com (mgmserv1.mgm.saic.com [198.151.10.36]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA02660 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 10:44:08 -0700 From: cshade@mgmserv1.mgm.saic.com Received: from [198.151.10.136] (saicmgm136.mgm.saic.com) by mgm.saic.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19694; Wed, 5 Oct 94 12:45:38 CDT Message-Id: <9410051745.AA19694@mgm.saic.com> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 01:00:03 -0600 To: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Re: Poor Man's? Status: OR >>He then goes on to sing the praises of The Cranberries as just what I >>think they are: a poor man's Sinead >>O'Connor. > >As best as I remember, my Cranberries CD cost just as stinking much as any >Sinead CD I've bought! > >Come on. The industry has a lot of very talented musicians in it. To say >that one group or singer isn't valid as themself because they emulate the >styles or ideals of another group or singer- is pretty closed minded and >just lame. In case you haven't been around most of the outside world, I >would even dare say the majority of people in listening distance of music >as a generality would not support much validity on the part of pretty much >anything Sinead has ever done. > >Grow up a little here. If another band is supporting what styles or ideals >you already appreciate and is doing it in a non-plagiarizing and quality >way, isn't that pretty cool in itself just for the sake of variety at least >by name in your collection? I agree with Andrew in that the phrase "poor man's Sinead" is a totally lame statement. I've heard it on this list a few times, and it pisses me off. So, what would Sinead be, then...a poor man's Maria Callas? Do we boycott everything coming out of Ireland that isn't Sinead? (Not that Maria Callas is Irish.) Must we be so quickly derogatory? Does an artist necessarily have to become engaged with the political environment surrounding him/her? I found the music of the Cranberries to be successfully enriching without their political opinions thrust into the heart of it. From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Oct 5 11:30:54 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id LAA15633; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 11:30:43 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id LAA03449 for jitr-dist; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 11:23:00 -0700 Received: from relay1.Hawaii.Edu (relay1.Hawaii.Edu [128.171.41.53]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA03442 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 11:22:58 -0700 Received: from uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu ([128.171.44.52]) by relay1.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <11358>; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 08:22:45 -1000 Received: by uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu id <148516>; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 08:22:25 -1000 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 08:22:11 -1000 From: THE RAT To: jitr@presto.ig.com In-real-life: Greg Bueno Title/Organization: President, The Richard Ching Fan Club Subject: Re: Poor Man's? In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 5 Oct 1994 05:01:02 -1000 Message-ID: Status: OR Hmm. Didn't know I signed on to a Cranberries Flame list... > Come on. The industry has a lot of very talented musicians in it. To say > that one group or singer isn't valid as themself because they emulate the > styles or ideals of another group or singer- is pretty closed minded and > just lame. I think this entire Sinead vs. Cranberries argument is pointless. The music industry masturbates on a trend til it's no longer profitable. This so-called "alternative music" - which, unfortunately, Sinead is considered to be apart of since she didn't fit into the cookie- cutter girl groups of the late 80's - is one such trend. The Cranberries, IMO, sound like the Sundays who sound like the Cocteau Twins who sound like... If history repeats itself, the music industry is nothing more than a scratched record playing at 78 RPM. Anybody remember Stone Temple Pilots (Pearl Jam)? Chuck Berry (Louis Jordan)? Blanesceau Quartet (Kronos Quartet)? ========================================================================= "Kaji! Kaji! Kaji!" -- Beavis and Butthead...in Japanese Greg Bueno bueno@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu ========================================================================= (who thinks commercial talent should be gauged in the ability to recycle...) From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Oct 5 11:32:30 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id LAA15917; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 11:32:15 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id LAA03645 for jitr-dist; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 11:25:59 -0700 Received: from chronos.synopsys.com (chronos.synopsys.com [146.225.8.10]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA03639 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 11:25:57 -0700 Received: from gaea.synopsys.com by chronos.synopsys.com with SMTP id AA23676 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 5 Oct 1994 11:25:53 -0700 Received: from pooh.synopsys.com by gaea.synopsys.com with SMTP id AA17139 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 5 Oct 1994 11:25:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199410051825.AA17139@gaea.synopsys.com> To: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Re: Cranberries-Sinead In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 05 Oct 94 12:38:18 -0400. <9410051638.AA23240@buclaa.bu.edu> Date: Wed, 05 Oct 94 11:24:46 -0700 From: Tim Hunter Status: OR #Take the Cranberries new single (please!) "Zombie". The very last part of #the song where Delores blatantly rips off "Troy". It's hard to describe #which part since it's not actually words being sung, but it's a definite #Sinead-like moan, if you will. I think the Cranberries sound much more like the Sundays, if you're going to pigeonhole them... But this whole vilification of the Cranberries for the mortal sin of copying Sinead is really stupid. Music is all about taking what you like from someone else's style and integrating it into your own. I'm sure if we looked hard enough we could find some of Sinead's inspirations, and where she borrowed material or technique from them. If you don't like the Cranberries, fine. Just stop with this "oh my god it's a blatant ripoff!" Even if it is, just acknowledge the fact that the Cranberries are "heavily influenced" by the music of Sinead, and get over it. tim From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Oct 5 12:28:44 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id MAA03995; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 12:28:37 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id MAA05184 for jitr-dist; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 12:17:34 -0700 Received: from hubcap.clemson.edu (hubcap.clemson.edu [130.127.8.1]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA05181 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 12:17:32 -0700 Received: from cs.clemson.edu (citron.cs.clemson.edu [130.127.44.18]) by hubcap.clemson.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) with SMTP id PAA16391; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 15:15:41 -0400 Received: from gandhi.cs.clemson.edu by cs.clemson.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22986; Wed, 5 Oct 94 15:16:22 EDT Received: by gandhi.cs.clemson.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06531; Wed, 5 Oct 94 15:16:19 EDT Newsgroups: alt.music.peter-gabriel Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 15:16:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "John N. Underwood" X-Sender: junderw@gandhi To: Peter Gabriel Mailing List Cc: Police Mailing List , "Sinead O'Connor Mailing List" Subject: Glory Of Gershwin US release Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR The Glory Of Gershwin has _finally_ been released in the US. For those who don't know, this is a compilation by various artists in tribute of Larry Adler's 80th birthday (they all cover Gershwin songs). The cd was released on Mercury (314 526 091-2). Peter Gabriel contributes "Summertime". Sting contributes "Nice Work If You Can Get It." Sinead O'Connor contributes "My Man's Gone Now." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John N. Underwood - junderw@cs.clemson.edu . In the washing of the water http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~junderw/junderw.html . will you take it all away . And Through The Wire - a Peter Gabriel WWW page . Bring me something URL: http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~junderw/pg.html . to take this pain away ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Oct 5 13:08:19 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id NAA29521; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 13:08:13 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id NAA05674 for jitr-dist; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 13:00:48 -0700 Received: from relay1.Hawaii.Edu (relay1.Hawaii.Edu [128.171.41.53]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA05670 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 13:00:47 -0700 Received: from uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu ([128.171.44.52]) by relay1.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <11380>; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 09:53:41 -1000 Received: by uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu id <148502>; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 09:50:06 -1000 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 09:49:53 -1000 From: THE RAT To: jitr@presto.ig.com In-real-life: Greg Bueno Title/Organization: President, The Richard Ching Fan Club Subject: Re: Cranberries-Sinead In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 5 Oct 1994 08:24:46 -1000 Message-ID: Status: OR > Music is all about taking what you like from someone else's style and > integrating it into your own. I'm sure if we looked hard enough we > could find some of Sinead's inspirations, and where she borrowed > material or technique from them. Amen. And his name is Bob Dylan. ========================================================================= "Kaji! Kaji! Kaji!" -- Beavis and Butthead...in Japanese Greg Bueno bueno@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu ========================================================================= From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Oct 5 17:59:57 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id RAA24233; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 17:59:48 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id RAA00386 for jitr-dist; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 17:53:58 -0700 Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA00383 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 17:53:56 -0700 Received: from mercury.mcs.com (root@Mercury.mcs.com [192.160.127.80]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA14910 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 19:31:48 -0500 Received: by mercury.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1) id ; Wed, 5 Oct 94 19:31 CDT Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 19:31:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Carolyn Andre To: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Sinead/A Woman's Heart 2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Being fairly new to the list, don't know if this was passed along before ... The new Dara compilation of women Irish artistes, "A Woman's Heart 2" (a.k.a. A Woman's Heart - the sequel) adds Sinead O'Connor, Mary Coughlan, Maighread Ni Dhomhnaill and Sinead Lohan to 5 of the 6 women from the first compilation. Sinead O'C is represented by "Three Babies" from "I Do Not Want What I Have Not Got" Carolyn Andre / Chicago candre@mcs.net From mcb@presto.ig.com Thu Oct 6 05:58:58 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id FAA11182; Thu, 6 Oct 1994 05:58:45 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id FAA03595 for jitr-dist; Thu, 6 Oct 1994 05:54:58 -0700 Received: from SNYBUFAA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU (SYSTEM@snybufaa.cs.snybuf.edu [136.183.10.1]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA03591 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 1994 05:54:56 -0700 From: GRUTTE09@snybufaa.cs.snybuf.edu Received: from SNYBUFAA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU by SNYBUFAA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU (PMDF V4.3-7 #5424) id <01HHY7QP6K5290NGAS@SNYBUFAA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>; Thu, 6 Oct 1994 08:54:33 EST Date: Thu, 06 Oct 1994 08:54:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: Off the Poor Mans Stuff To: jitr@presto.ig.com Message-id: <01HHY7QP6K5490NGAS@SNYBUFAA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU> Organization: from SUNY College at Buffalo, NY 14222 X-VMS-To: IN%"jitr@presto.ig.com" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: OR Ok I think we flamed everybody enough now..... Take a deep breath.... Ahhhhhhh now don't we all feel beter????? Has anyone seen the video for Fire in Babylon yet? It's pretty cool I must say! Giant machines of destruction! Fire! Sinead wielding a hefty sword! AND....... flowers :) Does anyone have a copy of the Troy video out there.... I saw a little part of it ONCE and I need(!!!!) to get a copy of it! THANX ALL!!!! Eric Grutte09@snybufaa.cs.snybuf.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'll jump up and get you! _________________________________________________________________________ From mcb@presto.ig.com Tue Oct 11 16:44:02 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id QAA29700; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 16:43:41 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id QAA21706 for jitr-dist; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 16:37:23 -0700 Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA21703 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 16:37:20 -0700 Received: from mercury.mcs.com (root@Mercury.mcs.com [192.160.127.80]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA12819 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 18:37:17 -0500 Received: by mercury.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1) id ; Tue, 11 Oct 94 18:37 CDT Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 18:37:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Carolyn Andre Subject: This week in Billboard, Hot Press To: jitr@presto.ig.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Sinead's new album shows up in several charts in BILLBOARD this week (cover date 15-October): Canada/Albums: at #13, up from #19 Ireland/Albums: even at #5 UK/Albums: down to #28 from #19 But - the most interesting was the appearance of "Fire on Babylon" at #25 on a Japanese TOKIO Hits! singles chart ==== HOT PRESS (5 October) has a half-page review of the album by Bill Graham. Quite even-handed, and positive on the whole. Too long to type in here (er, too long for my abyssmal data entry), but a few parts of the opening & closings "One could easily give Universal Mother another title. Not "Boy" but "Girl" - as performed by Yoko Ono and the Plastic Ono Band, and doubtless on the Mother label! It's definitely the record of an artist determined to restart, with a totally new set of basic principles? he recaps the diverse opinions of Andy Gill in the "Independent" (negative/critical) and Caroline Sullivan in "The Guardian" (topping 9 others as best for the week). he generally praises the spare style, lack of pretense, and consistency of the album. closing comments: "Universal Mother" is totally Irish in its refusal to fiddle around with the dictates of fashion and take the easy ironic route out of its dilemma & contradictions, for Sinead O'Connor remains an artistic Romantic, utterly incapable of being playful with her confusions. Sometimes a lack of craft handicaps her and the intensity of her singing breaks the banks of the frailer songs but there is also an art in her artlessness; her instincts do reach the emotional nerves others can't touch. ... But at 27, she's still desparately determined to have the answers; she isn't yet content to live with just the questions. ==== Last night when I had my latest 'spending accident' at Tower, I picked up the EP for "Fire On Babylon". I liked the covers of the 'oldies' I remember from folk guitar class - but was kinda annoyed at the low level of sound she starts out with on "Streets of London" - it seemed to be inconsistent with the volume of the preceding songs. Course, this was on headphones at work, and I imagine it's a lot better on the 'real stereo'. But - I can't remember - are "House of the Rising Sun" or "Streets of London" on one of her albums? (other than "Lion & Cobra" or "I Do Not Want ...") ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Carolyn Andre Spread Your Music on the Electronic Freeway Chicago, IL / USA Internet: candre@mcs.net CompuServe: 72207,2637 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From mcb@presto.ig.com Tue Oct 11 17:45:24 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by netcom6.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id RAA06566; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 17:45:17 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id RAA22601 for jitr-dist; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 17:42:21 -0700 Received: from gw.wmich.edu (gw.wmich.edu [141.218.1.100]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA22598 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 17:42:19 -0700 From: X93PODSIAD@wmich.edu Received: from piglet.cc.wmich.edu (piglet.cc.wmich.edu [141.218.20.105]) by gw.wmich.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA11386 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 20:42:18 -0400 Received: from wmich.edu by wmich.edu (PMDF V4.3-10 #5064) id <01HI5VWAX7O08YBSS7@wmich.edu>; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 20:43:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 20:37:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: i believe in you To: jitr@presto.ig.com Message-id: <01HI5WA7BGAS8YBSS7@wmich.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: OR >But - I can't remember - are "House of the Rising Sun" or "Streets of London" >on one of her albums? (other than "Lion & Cobra" or "I Do Not Want >...") i don't know if any of these were released before... i don't think so. but, 'i believe in you' was included on 'a special christmas ii' a while back. -m. From mcb@presto.ig.com Tue Oct 11 20:17:32 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by mail2.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id UAA18635; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 20:17:27 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id UAA23596 for jitr-dist; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 20:15:10 -0700 Received: from rf1.cuis.edu (rf1.cuis.edu [192.111.36.4]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA23593 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 20:15:08 -0700 From: CRF_MAASK@crf.cuis.edu Received: from CRF.CUIS.EDU by CRF.CUIS.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #6256) id <01HI5ZGZYK4W99I53Q@CRF.CUIS.EDU>; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 22:14:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 22:14:49 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Mademoiselle To: jitr@presto.ig.com Message-id: <01HI5ZH00YXU99I53Q@CRF.CUIS.EDU> Organization: Concordia University Information Systems, River Forest, Il. X-VMS-To: IN%"jitr@presto.ig.com." MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: OR This review was of Universal Mother appears in the Oct.1994 issue of Masemoiselle. I was relieved to finally find a somewhat positive published review. I think it's true that so many people discredit her music and talent because of because of her personal life. I know that life is reflected in art but sometimes we must forget our personal predjudices and look at the art apart from the lifestyles, actions, beliefs, and values of the artist. Anyway, here is the review: If only she'd never torn up that picture of the pope. Maybe then Sinead wouldn't have filled her fourth release with so many songs about feeling hurt and misunderstood. But being thinskinned must inspire beautiful music: Her love songs and lullabies- including a poignant cover of Nirvana's "All Apologies"- are genuinely moving, delivered with just piano and her pure voice. Only a grouch could hold a grudge against someone who asks for understanding with such sweet sounds." Kimberly, Chicago. Oh by the way..."thinskinned"??????????????????????????????????????????? From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Oct 19 02:46:48 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id CAA13548; Wed, 19 Oct 1994 02:46:43 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id CAA07667 for jitr-dist; Wed, 19 Oct 1994 02:41:52 -0700 Received: from ansaldo.it (ns.ansaldo.it [151.89.1.1]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id CAA07664 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 1994 02:41:37 -0700 Received: from ari.ansaldo.it (arisun) by ansaldo.it (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA24476; Wed, 19 Oct 1994 10:39:08 --100 Received: by ari.ansaldo.it (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08899; Mon, 21 Jun 93 10:01:48 +0200 From: pvalle@ari.ansaldo.it (Paolo Vallebona ) Message-Id: <9306210801.AA08899@ari.ansaldo.it> Subject: I'm in a band To: jitr@presto.ig.com Date: Mon, 21 Jun 93 10:01:47 MET DST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] content-length: 1465 Status: OR Hello, people in jitr! Some time ago I received the following message from JITR: >Just out of curiosity: > >How many people on this list a) want to be in a band or b) are in a >band? (In any band, not necessarily a band formed from the members of >the jitr mailing group...) > Well, I am sorry for the delay, but I would like you to know: I am in a band. Or... better, I was in a band; I don't actually know if I am now, as we are not playing since we lost our drummer, some months ago. We played some sort of 'fusion', but not so near to jazz, and none of the members is in the jitr (no-one but me, of course). The band was: - acoustic, electric and processed guitar - MIDI guitar/synthesizer and electric guitar - all basses (that's me) - drums, percussion and noises We are not real professional, I mean we have a job and then we play if we have some time left; all the same, we were able to perform several shows, and some good ones too. Now I am trying to put them together once more, find a new drummer and start playing again; meanwhile, I am setting up my little home studio in order to be able to produce some recorded music, alone or with the band. I don't know if there is something interested in it, as it has almost nothing to do with the jitr mailing list, but if someone asks, I answer, so... my name is Paolo, and I live in Genova, Italy. I think it's enough for now. but should anyone reply ... see you all soon on jitr. Bye. Paolo From mcb@presto.ig.com Tue Oct 25 09:46:45 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id JAA22995; Tue, 25 Oct 1994 09:46:24 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id JAA02714 for jitr-dist; Tue, 25 Oct 1994 09:44:01 -0700 Received: from ftp.std.com (ftp.std.com [192.74.137.7]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA02710 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 1994 09:44:00 -0700 Received: from world.std.com by ftp.std.com (8.6.8.1/Spike-8-1.0) id MAA00898; Tue, 25 Oct 1994 12:43:58 -0400 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA10080; Tue, 25 Oct 1994 12:44:04 -0400 Message-Id: <199410251644.AA10080@world.std.com> To: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Sinead on the LATE SHOW Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 12:44:04 -0400 From: Elizabeth Lear Newman Status: OR Sinead is booked to be on THE LATE SHOW WITH DAVID LETTERMAN on Monday, October 31. ...eliz From mcb@presto.ig.com Wed Oct 26 08:42:47 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id IAA03115; Wed, 26 Oct 1994 08:42:39 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id IAA17687 for jitr-dist; Wed, 26 Oct 1994 08:39:06 -0700 Received: from phinet.smithkline.com (phinet.smithkline.com [139.136.64.5]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA17684 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 1994 08:39:00 -0700 Received: by phinet.smithkline.com (5.57/ULTRIX-az-040392); id AA04508; Wed, 26 Oct 94 11:28:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 94 11:28:19 -0400 Message-Id: <9410261528.AA04508@phinet.smithkline.com> From: hollis_f%frgen.dnet@sb.com (Triple Quadrophenic) To: "jitr@presto.ig.com"%INET.dnet@sb.com Subject: Sinead on Danny Baker Show Status: OR Did anybody else see Sinead on the Danny Baker Show on BBC1 Saturday night? She did two songs - 'House of the Rising Sun' and 'Thank You for Hearing Me' which was quite a surprise, normally TV performances are of the single only. She looked ever so pleased at the reception she got - with that slightly surprised "Oh God, they like me" little smile. Frank J Hollis __________________________________________ Mass Spectrometry | The Sinclair C5 of the | SB Pharm | Information Superhighway | Herts. UK. |_________________________________________| Internet::hollis_f%frgen.dnet@sb.com| All opinions my own. or Frank_Hollis-1%notes@sb.com| (So I'm told)! From mcb@presto.ig.com Fri Oct 28 08:20:10 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by netcom16.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id IAA23893; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 08:20:05 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id IAA28487 for jitr-dist; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 08:15:11 -0700 Received: from buclaa.bu.edu (BUCLAA.BU.EDU [128.197.70.80]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA28484 for ; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 08:15:07 -0700 Received: by buclaa.bu.edu (5.61+++/SMI-4.0.3) id AA29798; Fri, 28 Oct 94 11:12:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 11:12:23 -0400 From: rfd@buclaa.bu.edu (Richard F. Delano) Message-Id: <9410281512.AA29798@buclaa.bu.edu> To: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Sinead on TV Status: OR Sinead is scheduled to make two (count 'em, two!) TV appearances in the US next week. On Monday (10/31) she will appear on the Late Show with David Letterman and on Thursday (11/3) she will be on the Jon Stewart Show. She will most likely only be performing. Letterman rarely interviews musical guests. I don't know about Jon Stewart. Get them VCR's ready! Rich Boston Univ. From mcb@presto.ig.com Mon Oct 31 22:04:24 1994 Return-Path: Received: from presto.ig.com by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id WAA04040; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 22:03:09 -0800 Received: (from root@localhost) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id VAA14121 for jitr-dist; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 21:57:35 -0800 Received: from BROWNVM.brown.edu (brownvm.brown.edu [128.148.128.40]) by presto.ig.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA14118 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 21:57:31 -0800 Message-Id: <199411010557.VAA14118@presto.ig.com> Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4869; Tue, 01 Nov 94 00:56:33 EST Received: from BROWNVM (NJE origin ST000445@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9211; Tue, 1 Nov 1994 00:56:32 -0500 Date: Tue, 01 Nov 94 00:55:36 EST From: John Subject: Letterman To: jitr@PRESTO.IG.COM Status: OR i liked... but did anyone recognize the woman on bass? she looks strikingly like the bassist for Souther Culture on the Skids. hmm John_Lund@Brown.Edu