From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Wed Apr 1 01:22:23 1992 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA15526; Wed, 1 Apr 92 01:21:29 -0800 Received: from nettlesome.Berkeley.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA15521; Wed, 1 Apr 92 01:21:27 -0800 Received: from remarque.Berkeley.EDU by nettlesome.berkeley.edu (5.64.1/1.34.6) id AA01795; Wed, 1 Apr 92 01:20:05 -0800 Received: by remarque.berkeley.edu.berkeley.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20743; Wed, 1 Apr 92 01:21:23 PST Message-Id: <9204010921.AA20743@remarque.berkeley.edu.berkeley.edu> To: jump-in-the-river (Sinead O'Connor) Reply-To: jump-in-the-river@presto.ig.com Subject: Re: Bottlegs... In-Reply-To: csc2u0el's message of "Tue, 31 Mar 92 20:58:00 BST." <264.9203311958@sun018.sun.leeds.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 92 01:21:18 -0800 From: Jym Dyer Status: OR > The concert on tape is pretty cool esp. as she changes the > lyrics to some songs 'You're still a FUCKING liar'. =o= And lemme guess: the audience cheers, demonstrating once again the superiority of _homo_sapiens_ over the lesser beings. <_FUCKING_Jym_> From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu Apr 2 07:09:58 1992 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA24911; Thu, 2 Apr 92 07:06:47 -0800 Received: from well.sf.ca.us by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA24907; Thu, 2 Apr 92 07:06:44 -0800 Received: by nkosi.well.sf.ca.us (4.1/SMI-4.1/Brent-nkosi-920331-1) id AA24348; Thu, 2 Apr 92 07:06:33 PST Date: Thu, 2 Apr 92 07:06:33 PST From: slf@well.sf.ca.us (Sharon Lynne Fisher) Message-Id: <9204021506.AA24348@nkosi.well.sf.ca.us> To: boarjas@elof.iit.edu, jitr Subject: Re: Three Babies single Status: OR There's an alternate version of Mandinka on a single. From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu Apr 2 20:28:45 1992 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA07778; Thu, 2 Apr 92 20:28:09 -0800 Received: from iitmax.iit.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA07774; Thu, 2 Apr 92 20:28:06 -0800 Received: from elof.iit.edu by iitmax.iit.edu with SMTP id AA27066 (5.64+/IDA/NIU-1.3.1 for jitr@presto.ig.com); Thu, 2 Apr 92 22:27:51 -0600 Received: by elof.iit.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-1.0) id AA10842; Thu, 2 Apr 92 22:27:46 GMT-0600 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 92 22:27:46 GMT-0600 From: boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman) Message-Id: <9204030427.AA10842@ elof.iit.edu > To: jitr Subject: Where is Sinead? Status: OR Does anyone know if Sinead still lives in California (currently) or if she went home to Ireland? I have heard both -- does anyone know the TRUTH? Or anything that sounds even remotely close to the truth??? Thanks! Jason boarjas@elof.iit.edu From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri Apr 3 13:34:14 1992 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA16830; Fri, 3 Apr 92 13:32:44 -0800 Received: from uu.psi.com by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA16826; Fri, 3 Apr 92 13:32:40 -0800 Received: by uu.psi.com (5.65b/4.1.031792-PSI/PSINet) id AA00864; Fri, 3 Apr 92 16:07:47 -0500 Received: from longvalley.cambridge.oracorp.com (longvalley.ARPA) by cambridge.oracorp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-ORA Corporation) id AA00108; Fri, 3 Apr 92 15:57:51 EST Date: Fri, 3 Apr 92 16:12:14 EST From: weitzman@cambridge.oracorp.com (Adam Weitzman) Received: by longvalley.cambridge.oracorp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-ORA Corporation) id AA20639; Fri, 3 Apr 92 16:12:14 EST Message-Id: <9204032112.AA20639@longvalley.cambridge.oracorp.com> To: jitr In-Reply-To: Jason Boardman's message of Thu, 2 Apr 92 22:27:46 GMT-0600 <9204030427.AA10842@ elof.iit.edu > Subject: Where is Sinead? Status: OR > Does anyone know if Sinead still lives in California (currently) > or if she went home to Ireland? I have heard both -- does anyone > know the TRUTH? Or anything that sounds even remotely close to the > truth??? Thanks! The truth is, she took Hammer up on his offer to pay for her flight back and went back to Ireland. She then promptly told a magazine that America was full of rapists and drug-dealers, or something to that effect. Guess we won't be seeing too much of her on this shore anymore... Adam J Weitzman weitzman@cambridge.oracorp.com "Two men need one money, but one money needs no man." - The Sugarcubes "In a sky full of people, only some want to fly, isn't that crazy?" - Seal "Mine is the last voice you will ever hear. Don't be alarmed." - FGTH From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri Apr 3 14:46:37 1992 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA26639; Fri, 3 Apr 92 14:44:49 -0800 Received: from cwns4.INS.CWRU.Edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA26622; Fri, 3 Apr 92 14:44:43 -0800 Received: by cwns4.INS.CWRU.Edu (5.65b+ida+/CWRU-1.5-freenet) id AA25782; Fri, 3 Apr 92 17:44:37 -0500 (from lxh17 for jitr@presto.ig.com) Message-Id: <9204032244.AA25782@cwns4.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 92 17:44:37 -0500 From: lxh17@po.cwru.edu (Lisa Hansen) To: jitr Subject: hammersinead? Reply-To: lxh17@po.cwru.edu Status: OR In a previous post, weitzman@cambridge.oracorp.com (Adam Weitzman) says: >The truth is, she took Hammer up on his offer to pay >for her flight back and went back to Ireland. what offer was this? it doesn't seem like the two names really go together...i'm confused. gourd, asil -- -ydobon fo sdrow latrommi eht ni delkceps noilednad elprup ni koma gninnur seibrab detatipaced "....sdleif "...skcihcffulf lla ot htaed" From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon Apr 6 11:30:36 1992 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA18631; Mon, 6 Apr 92 11:29:44 -0700 Received: from iitmax.iit.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA18625; Mon, 6 Apr 92 11:29:37 -0700 Received: from elof.iit.edu by iitmax.iit.edu with SMTP id AA16120 (5.64+/IDA/NIU-1.3.1 for jitr@presto.ig.com); Mon, 6 Apr 92 12:29:33 -0600 Received: by elof.iit.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-1.0) id AA21356; Mon, 6 Apr 92 13:29:30 CDT Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 13:29:30 CDT From: boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman) Message-Id: <9204061829.AA21356@ elof.iit.edu > To: jitr Subject: Sinead Books Status: OR I have "Sinead Her Life and Music by Jimmy Guterman" are there any other biographies or Sinead books out there? Jason boarjas@elof.iit.edu From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon Apr 6 20:46:25 1992 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA25524; Mon, 6 Apr 92 20:45:14 -0700 Received: from dartvax.dartmouth.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA25520; Mon, 6 Apr 92 20:45:11 -0700 Received: from donner.dartmouth.edu by dartvax.dartmouth.edu (5.65+D3/4.4HUB) id AA25899; Mon, 6 Apr 92 23:45:07 -0400 Received: by donner (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/Dart1.0) id AA06326; Mon, 6 Apr 92 23:45:05 EDT From: Shan.Yin@dartmouth.edu Message-Id: <597201@donner.Dartmouth.EDU> Date: 6 Apr 92 23:45:02 EDT Subject: Re: Sinead Books To: boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman), jitr Status: OR --- Jason Boardman wrote: I have "Sinead Her Life and Music by Jimmy Guterman" are there any other biographies or Sinead books out there? --- end of quoted material --- Yeah, I've got that one and another one called "So Different" by Dermott Hayes. From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri Apr 10 01:04:42 1992 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA19512; Fri, 10 Apr 92 01:02:31 -0700 Received: from iitmax.iit.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA19508; Fri, 10 Apr 92 01:02:28 -0700 Received: from elof.iit.edu by iitmax.iit.edu with SMTP id AA09642 (5.64+/IDA/NIU-1.3.1 for jitr@presto.ig.com); Fri, 10 Apr 92 02:02:24 -0600 Received: by elof.iit.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-1.0) id AA12971; Fri, 10 Apr 92 03:02:22 CDT Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 03:02:22 CDT From: boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman) Message-Id: <9204100802.AA12971@ elof.iit.edu > To: jitr Subject: 'So different' Status: OR Someone here on the list told me of a book called "So Different" about Sinead. I would like to order it if possible. Could you give me the publisher, year publsihed, and serial number (or whatever number that looks like it's for ordering)? Thanks! Jason boarjas@elof.iit.edu From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri Apr 10 13:55:26 1992 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA12902; Fri, 10 Apr 92 13:52:04 -0700 Received: from dartvax.dartmouth.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA12894; Fri, 10 Apr 92 13:52:00 -0700 Received: from donner.dartmouth.edu by dartvax.dartmouth.edu (5.65+D4/4.4HUB) id AA09097; Fri, 10 Apr 92 16:51:50 -0400 Received: by donner (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/Dart1.0) id AA17268; Fri, 10 Apr 92 16:51:46 EDT From: Shan.Yin@dartmouth.edu Message-Id: <629393@donner.Dartmouth.EDU> Date: 10 Apr 92 16:51:43 EDT Subject: Re: 'So different' To: boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman), jitr Status: OR I'm not too sure what is important. I give you as much as possible. "Sinead O'Connor So Different" by Dermott Hayes Omnibus Press 1991 Order No: OP 46226 On the inside cover it says this: Exclusive distributors: Book Sales Limited, 8/9 Frith Street, London W1V 5TZ. Music Sales Corporation, 225 Park Avenue South, New York, NY 10003, USA Music Sales Pty Ltd., 120 Rothschild Avenue, Rosebery, NSW 2018, Australia Good Luck. I highly recommend it. It's a lot more detailed than the other one and has a nice discography at the end. -S From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon Apr 13 20:37:43 1992 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA01463; Mon, 13 Apr 92 20:35:31 -0700 Received: from iitmax.iit.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA01457; Mon, 13 Apr 92 20:35:25 -0700 Received: from elof.iit.edu by iitmax.iit.edu with SMTP id AA19983 (5.64+/IDA/NIU-1.3.1 for jitr@presto.ig.com); Mon, 13 Apr 92 22:34:15 -0600 Received: by elof.iit.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-1.0) id AA03250; Mon, 13 Apr 92 22:35:17 CDT Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 22:35:17 CDT From: boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman) Message-Id: <9204140335.AA03250@ elof.iit.edu > To: jitr Subject: Marital status Status: OR Is Sinead currently married or single? ...Just wondering :) Jason boarjas@elof.iit.edu From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon Apr 13 20:39:10 1992 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA01546; Mon, 13 Apr 92 20:38:53 -0700 Received: from iitmax.iit.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA01540; Mon, 13 Apr 92 20:38:47 -0700 Received: from elof.iit.edu by iitmax.iit.edu with SMTP id AA01780 (5.64+/IDA/NIU-1.3.1 for jitr@presto.ig.com); Mon, 13 Apr 92 22:37:39 -0600 Received: by elof.iit.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-1.0) id AA03284; Mon, 13 Apr 92 22:38:40 CDT Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 22:38:40 CDT From: boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman) Message-Id: <9204140338.AA03284@ elof.iit.edu > To: jitr Subject: I want your (hands on me) single Status: OR Was there a single (cd cassette or record) for I want your (hands on me) If so what tracks are on it? If so, is it available anywhere? Jason boarjas@elof.iit.edu From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon Apr 13 21:12:39 1992 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA02382; Mon, 13 Apr 92 21:12:19 -0700 Received: from garnet.Berkeley.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA02375; Mon, 13 Apr 92 21:12:16 -0700 Received: by garnet.berkeley.edu (5.57/1.33.2) id AA28353; Mon, 13 Apr 92 21:12:06 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 21:12:06 -0700 From: jhuy@garnet.berkeley.edu (Jack B. Huynh) Message-Id: <9204140412.AA28353@garnet.berkeley.edu> To: boarjas@elof.iit.edu, jitr Subject: Re: Marital status Status: OR Sinead is currently separated from her husband, John Reynonds (sp) They are still legally married, but ... She seeing me now. jbh From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Tue Apr 14 09:20:58 1992 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA18345; Tue, 14 Apr 92 09:12:47 -0700 Received: from relay1.UU.NET by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA18332; Tue, 14 Apr 92 09:12:17 -0700 Received: from uunet.uu.net (via LOCALHOST.UU.NET) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA10971; Tue, 14 Apr 92 11:45:37 -0400 Received: from kpc.UUCP by uunet.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 114440.16494; Tue, 14 Apr 1992 11:44:40 EDT Received: from ca by kpc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24808; Tue, 14 Apr 92 08:26:11 PDT From: dow@kpc.com (Christopher Dow) Received: by ca (5.51/kpcnfs1.2) id AA12232; Tue, 14 Apr 92 08:22:50 PDT Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 08:22:50 PDT Message-Id: <9204141523.AA12232@ca.kpc.com> To: boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman) Subject: Re: I want your (hands on me) single Cc: jitr Status: OR >From: boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman) >Subject: I want your (hands on me) single >Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 22:38:40 CDT >To: jitr@presto.ig.com >Received: from uunet.UUCP by kpc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) > >Was there a single (cd cassette or record) for I want your (hands on me) >If so what tracks are on it? If so, is it available anywhere? > >Jason >boarjas@elof.iit.edu > Yes. There was a UK Single of that title with a version of the song that has MC Lyte on it. I have it, but, sadly, have to admit that I did not commit it's contents to memory. If no one posts them to the list by this afternoon, I'll do so. Chris From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Tue Apr 14 23:14:17 1992 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA11848; Tue, 14 Apr 92 23:11:51 -0700 Received: from iitmax.iit.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA11843; Tue, 14 Apr 92 23:11:48 -0700 Received: from elof.iit.edu by iitmax.iit.edu with SMTP id AA31289 (5.64+/IDA/NIU-1.3.1 for jitr@presto.ig.com); Wed, 15 Apr 92 01:10:36 -0600 Received: by elof.iit.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-1.0) id AA08551; Wed, 15 Apr 92 01:11:33 CDT Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 01:11:33 CDT From: boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman) Message-Id: <9204150611.AA08551@ elof.iit.edu > To: jitr Subject: Lyrics revision Status: OR I am trying to revise the lyrics to The Lion and the Cobra from the ones available in the archive. I have a few questions about some of the songs, and I thought it would be best to post my uncertainties here and let everyone 'vote' on what they think it says. Please be open minded here: just because you've been singing it one way all these years, doesn't mean it's right! Anyway... anyone interested can mail me on what they think and the majority will probably be right. Not to mention this will get some activity going on this list. I will start mailing the suggestions as soon as I come across anything I think is different, if you think of something else, let me know! (BTW: the ones there could be spot on, even so, I'd like to figure out the ones of the 2 songs not listed) Thanks for your help (in advance!) Jason boarjas@elof.iit.edu From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Tue Apr 14 23:58:26 1992 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA12916; Tue, 14 Apr 92 23:58:08 -0700 Received: from iitmax.iit.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA12911; Tue, 14 Apr 92 23:58:04 -0700 Received: from elof.iit.edu by iitmax.iit.edu with SMTP id AA00449 (5.64+/IDA/NIU-1.3.1 for jitr@presto.ig.com); Wed, 15 Apr 92 01:56:54 -0600 Received: by elof.iit.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-1.0) id AA09421; Wed, 15 Apr 92 01:57:55 CDT Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 01:57:55 CDT From: boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman) Message-Id: <9204150657.AA09421@ elof.iit.edu > To: jitr Subject: First run of lyrics suggestions (kinda long) Status: OR Here's some of the first few that could be questionable: Jackie ------ I can't find anything that I don't agree with in this one. Anyone else? Mandinka -------- Listed: I don't know no shame I think I'm playin' a game see the flame Maybe?: I don't know no shame I feel no pain I can't, see the flame (I could -with all of these- be way off base here but I just couldn't hear that bit about playin' a game .. what do you think?) Listed: I do know a Mandinka Maybe?: I do know Mandinka (I read in the archives where someone found the meaning of this word, I don't remember what the meaning was but which one of these would make more sense?) Jerusalem --------- This one looks ok too - ? Just Like U Said It Would B --------------------------- No problem here - ? Never get old ------------- Listed: 'cuz it never gets old Maybe?: (something missing) 'cuz it never gets old any ideas what she says before that line? Troy ---- Listed: every move stolen from our very eyes Maybe?: and we move stolen from our very eyes Listed: oh, and should I love you Maybe?: oh, does she love you Listed: wouldn't have made it burn away Maybe?: and the flame burn away (sounds like this on the live version anyway) I want your (hands on me) ------------------------- We're starting from scratch here! go ahead and transcribe the whole thing if you want! Drink before the war -------------------- Listed: you're building a world maybe?: you're building a wall (world seems better to me, but I keep hearing wall) Just call me joe ---------------- Once again starting from scratch. Ok there you have it. Send your corrections to: boarjas@elof.iit.edu Thanks! From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Wed Apr 15 09:00:24 1992 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA25796; Wed, 15 Apr 92 08:59:19 -0700 Received: from equinox.unr.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA25791; Wed, 15 Apr 92 08:59:15 -0700 Received: by equinox.unr.edu (4.1/1.34) id AA06503; Wed, 15 Apr 92 08:59:05 PDT Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 08:59:05 PDT From: trevor@equinox.unr.edu (Trevor Vigoren) Message-Id: <9204151559.AA06503@equinox.unr.edu> In-Reply-To: boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman) "First run of lyrics suggestions (kinda long)" (Apr 15, 1:57am) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.1-unr.1 5/02/90) To: jitr Subject: Re: First run of lyrics suggestions (kinda long) Status: OR > Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 01:57:55 CDT > From: boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman) > Subject: First run of lyrics suggestions (kinda long) > > Mandinka > -------- > Maybe?: I don't know no shame > I feel no pain > I can't, see the flame > That's what I've been singing since I heard it. WOW what a voice! Trevor From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu Apr 16 08:53:12 1992 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA28494; Thu, 16 Apr 92 08:50:51 -0700 Received: from zcias1.ziff.com by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA28489; Thu, 16 Apr 92 08:50:43 -0700 Received: from DN-ARNOR by zcias1.ziff.com (PMDF #12531) id <01GIWX0JM5J4000HJP@zcias1.ziff.com>; Thu, 16 Apr 1992 11:49 EST Received: from arnor.zis.ziff.com by arnor.zis.ziff.com (PMDF #12531) id <01GIWX15V89S9X3TAR@arnor.zis.ziff.com>; Thu, 16 Apr 1992 11:49 EST Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 11:49 EST From: Sam Warren Subject: Lyrics To: jitr Message-Id: <01GIWX15V89S9X3TAR@arnor.zis.ziff.com> X-Envelope-To: jitr@presto.ig.com X-Vms-To: IN%"jitr@presto.ig.com" X-Vms-Cc: I_SW Status: OR I transcribed I Want Your (Hands On Me) last night. Some of the lines are questionble to me, so after those lines I will put a question mark in parentheses. I want your hands on me Or I won't give me You know I wanna please you What I wanna do to you You don't waste no time do you You know I'll never trust you (?) Why you wanna tease me I want you honey, please me Chorus: Put 'em on, put 'em on, put 'em on me Put 'em on, put 'em on, put 'em on me Put 'em on, put 'em on, put 'em on me Put 'em on, put 'em on, put 'em on me Put 'em on, put 'em on, put 'em on me Put 'em on, put 'em on, put 'em on me Put 'em on, put 'em on, put 'em on me Put 'em on, put 'em on, put 'em on me You know that I can thrill you I want you honey, do you (?) I wanna move near you I really wanna feel you (Repeat chorus) Put your hands on me, put your hands on me Put your hands on me, put your hands on me Put your hands on me, put your hands on me Put your hands on me (Repeat chorus) Hands (gimme those) Hands (gimme those) Hands (gimme those) Hands (gimme those) I want this Gimme this Ah (Repeat chorus) Well, anyway, that's what I got out of it. I tried to do Just Call Me Joe, but I had to give up, because I just couldn't understand her over the distortion of the bass.