From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri Jun 1 02:45:31 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA18727; Fri, 1 Jun 90 02:43:14 -0700 Received: from ames.arc.nasa.gov by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA18725; Fri, 1 Jun 90 02:43:09 -0700 Received: by ames.arc.nasa.gov (5.61/1.2); Fri, 1 Jun 90 02:43:00 -0700 Posted-Date: Thu, 31 May 90 23:09:23 PST Received: from uunet.UU.NET by cs.utexas.edu (5.61/1.62) id AA16038; Fri, 1 Jun 90 03:29:14 -0500 Received: from nwnexus.UUCP by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP id AA02143; Fri, 1 Jun 90 04:29:03 -0400 Received: by nwnexus.WA.COM (5.52.1/smail2.5/10-31-88) id AA07081; Thu, 31 May 90 23:30:52 PDT Received: by sensual.wa.com (UUPC/pcmail 1.0095) with UUCP; Thu, 31 May 90 23:09:23 PST Date: Thu, 31 May 90 23:09:23 PST From: Steve Schonberger Message-Id: <266614a3@sensual.wa.com> X-Mailer: UUPC/mail 1.095 To: jitr Subject: Oops! (Hugh Harris) Status: OR As several people have informed me, it was not a safe bet to assume that since all previously reported Sinead shows were opened by rappers another opener named Hugh Harris would also be a rapper. My apologies for saying he probably was. I'm sure glad I made my disclaimers that it was based only on previous experience, rather than definitely saying he is a rapper. I guess in the future I'll have to say "she usually has rap acts to open her shows." Thanks to those who set me straight, both in direct mail and posted notes. -- Steve Schonberger Why should I disclaim anything when I own this site? steve@sensual.wa.com (Yet another site named after a Kate Bush song) From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Sun Jun 3 00:47:35 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA23496; Thu, 31 May 90 09:01:44 -0700 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA23492; Thu, 31 May 90 09:01:38 -0700 Received: from E40-008-6.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA01327; Thu, 31 May 90 12:01:29 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by E40-008-6.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA02210; Thu, 31 May 90 12:01:26 -0400 Message-Id: <9005311601.AA02210@E40-008-6.MIT.EDU> To: jitr Subject: Rolling Stone interview Date: Thu, 31 May 90 12:01:24 EDT Status: OR Has anybody read this yet? Any thoughts/comments? My impression is that Sinead hasn't realized what she's gotten her self into. Events such as the Austin walkout, point out that she is not used to the deified status she gets from crowds wherever she performs. I can't even think how she'll react to arena audiences this summer (she's playing Great Woods in Massachusetts that as a seating of around 10,000...). Although her voice can fill the largest stadium, I don't think that her music will sound good in such a setting. Looking back at her concert at the Orpheum (~3000 seats), I think there was a noticeable difference in her mood and her performance from the 1988 concert at the Paradise that I've listened to over and over again. She was more withdrawn from the crowd. Judging from her songwriting so far, I am willing to bet that her next album will be called "I am sick of success". But as she says "There's millions of people who offer advice and tell me how I xshould be, but they're twisted and they'll never be any influence on me", so I don't want to join that club and will stop here. I will however remember the days when people asked me who was singing, and when I said "Sinead", they asked "Shin-who?". Angelos From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Sun Jun 3 00:56:38 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA26080; Thu, 31 May 90 10:18:20 -0700 Received: from porthos.rutgers.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA26076; Thu, 31 May 90 10:18:15 -0700 Received: by porthos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.3/3.06) id AA08935; Thu, 31 May 90 13:15:41 EDT Date: Thu, 31 May 90 13:15:39 EDT From: jessica To: Steve Schonberger Cc: jitr Subject: Re: Anybody heard of Hugh Harris? In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 30 May 90 22:43:39 PST Message-Id: Status: OR Hugh Harris wasn't rap... no, not at all. jessica ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | I will live by my own policies, I will sleep with a clear conscience, | | I will sleep in peace. (Sinead O'Connor) | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon Jun 4 14:03:21 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA23496; Thu, 31 May 90 09:01:44 -0700 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA23492; Thu, 31 May 90 09:01:38 -0700 Received: from E40-008-6.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA01327; Thu, 31 May 90 12:01:29 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by E40-008-6.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA02210; Thu, 31 May 90 12:01:26 -0400 Message-Id: <9005311601.AA02210@E40-008-6.MIT.EDU> To: jitr Subject: Rolling Stone interview Date: Thu, 31 May 90 12:01:24 EDT Status: OR Has anybody read this yet? Any thoughts/comments? My impression is that Sinead hasn't realized what she's gotten her self into. Events such as the Austin walkout, point out that she is not used to the deified status she gets from crowds wherever she performs. I can't even think how she'll react to arena audiences this summer (she's playing Great Woods in Massachusetts that as a seating of around 10,000...). Although her voice can fill the largest stadium, I don't think that her music will sound good in such a setting. Looking back at her concert at the Orpheum (~3000 seats), I think there was a noticeable difference in her mood and her performance from the 1988 concert at the Paradise that I've listened to over and over again. She was more withdrawn from the crowd. Judging from her songwriting so far, I am willing to bet that her next album will be called "I am sick of success". But as she says "There's millions of people who offer advice and tell me how I xshould be, but they're twisted and they'll never be any influence on me", so I don't want to join that club and will stop here. I will however remember the days when people asked me who was singing, and when I said "Sinead", they asked "Shin-who?". Angelos From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon Jun 4 14:08:41 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA26080; Thu, 31 May 90 10:18:20 -0700 Received: from porthos.rutgers.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA26076; Thu, 31 May 90 10:18:15 -0700 Received: by porthos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.3/3.06) id AA08935; Thu, 31 May 90 13:15:41 EDT Date: Thu, 31 May 90 13:15:39 EDT From: jessica To: Steve Schonberger Cc: jitr Subject: Re: Anybody heard of Hugh Harris? In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 30 May 90 22:43:39 PST Message-Id: Status: OR Hugh Harris wasn't rap... no, not at all. jessica ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | I will live by my own policies, I will sleep with a clear conscience, | | I will sleep in peace. (Sinead O'Connor) | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon Jun 4 15:24:01 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA03632; Mon, 4 Jun 90 15:20:37 -0700 Received: from att-in.att.com by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA03620; Mon, 4 Jun 90 15:20:27 -0700 From: ohm!boyle!eob@pruxk.att.com Received: from boyle. by ohm. (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA06026; Mon, 4 Jun 90 17:32:21 EDT Received: by boyle. (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA23249; Mon, 4 Jun 90 17:32:22 EDT Date: Mon, 4 Jun 90 17:32:22 EDT Original-From: ohm!boyle!eob (Eamonn O'Brien) Message-Id: <9006042132.AA23249@boyle.> To: jitr Subject: Review of SOC in _Arizona Republic_ Content-Type: text Content-Length: 3276 Status: OR I extracted the following from "The Irish Emigrant" (an electronic newsletter for Irish people living abroad). Eamonn eob@ohm.att.com ~~~~~~ ----- Begin Included Message ----- ================================================================= June 4, 1990 THE IRISH EMIGRANT Issue No.174 Editor: Liam Ferrie Circulation: 734 ================================================================= [...] CONCERT REVIEW On May 28, reader David Chapman went along to a Sinead O'Connor concert in Tempe, Arizona. For those of you interested in how she is being received in the US he forwarded a summary of a review of the concert which appeared in the Arizona Republic a few days later. AS A RISING STAR, 'NOTHING COMPARES 2 SINEAD' Move over, Madonna. This is the 90's For a brief hour, Irish songstress Sinead O'Connor showed a sold-out audience at the Grady Gammage Memorial Auditorium that predictions that she is the "first new superstar" of the decade aren't hyperbole. O'Connor's pose was earnest - as herself. Her emotionally affecting vocals alternately lingered over, caressed and hammered out songs that arise out of her life. She ran the gamut of the most desperate whisper to a yell of gale force proportion during a 12-song set that included all-out rockers and an a cappella Irish folk tune. Dressed in black (like most of her youthful audience), O'Connor and her five-piece backing band proved that less is more. Like the simple, honest emotions in her songs, the stage show was straightforward. For a four-song stretch, O'Connor appeared on stage solo with an acoustic guitar or pre-recorded backing. Interestingly, her rendition of the hit "Nothing Compares 2U" drew little response from a trendy crowd. On the other hand, "I am Stretched Upon Your Grave" with its mix of hip-hop, followed by an O'Connor jig brought the house down. "The Last Day Of Our Acquaintance" was another show stopper. O'Connor's stage presence is reminiscent of David Byrne of Talking Heads. While gearing up for an emotional release, she would hyperactively windmill her arms, turn in circles or stomp her feet. But once she had revved the battery, her voice would hit a note and sustain the charge. The show's pace alternated between the string-dominated songs on "I Don't Want What I Haven't Got" and her more rock-oriented influences. She wisely paced the evening, opening with "Feel So Different", then rocking out on "The Emperor's New Clothes" and "I Want Your (Hands on Me)", and the slowing down, performing "Three Babies", "Black Boys on Mopeds" and "Jackie" on acoustic guitar with little accompaniment. However, considering the prolonged standing ovation she received from the audience at the end, her brief one-song encore was a bit disappointing. I, and everyone else in the audience deserved and expected more. ----- End Included Message ----- From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon Jun 4 16:57:16 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA07117; Mon, 4 Jun 90 16:55:49 -0700 Received: from kvetching.Berkeley.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA07113; Mon, 4 Jun 90 16:55:46 -0700 Received: by sprite.Berkeley.EDU (5.59/1.29) id AA197203; Mon, 4 Jun 90 16:55:26 PDT Message-Id: <9006042355.AA197203@sprite.Berkeley.EDU> To: jitr Subject: sinead in berkeley Date: Mon, 04 Jun 90 16:55:25 PDT From: Fred Douglis Status: OR last night i saw sinead in berkeley. i arrived about 15 minutes after show time, drove around for 15 minutes looking for parking, and finally drove to my apartment and walked there, arriving a total of 45 minutes late. by this time the opener had already finished, and we had to wait *45 minutes* for sinead to start, at 9pm. she sang until about 10, then disappeared at length before coming back for each of 2 encores. total time was perhaps 65-70 minutes of singing, after 45 minutes of waiting. i enjoyed what i saw, but the comment However, considering the prolonged standing ovation she received from the audience at the end, her brief one-song encore was a bit disappointing. I, and everyone else in the audience deserved and expected more. from the irish emigrant's column hit close to home. Fred From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon Jun 4 17:35:50 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA08245; Mon, 4 Jun 90 17:35:25 -0700 Received: from uunet.UU.NET by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA08241; Mon, 4 Jun 90 17:35:22 -0700 Received: from bnrgate.UUCP by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP id AA02000; Mon, 4 Jun 90 20:35:16 -0400 Received: from bmera259.bnr.ca by bnrgate.BNR.CA (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA00506; Sun, 3 Jun 90 13:59:48 EDT Received: by bmera259.bnr.ca (5.51.2/6.gd) id AA00599; Sun, 3 Jun 90 11:17:25 EDT Date: Sun, 3 Jun 90 11:17:25 EDT From: myhui@bmera259.bnr.ca (Michael Hui) Message-Id: <9006031517.AA00599@bmera259.bnr.ca> To: jitr Subject: Sinead re-tracing Kate Bush's footsteps ? Status: OR Certain kinds of music lend themselves to lives performance, certain other kinds don't. I think both Sinead's and Kate's music don't really lend themselves to live performances as much as Jane Siberry's music does, and Kate already has decided touring is not for her. Sinead may very soon come to the same conclusion. michael m.y. hui ottawa ontario canada 613-765-4423 613-726-1182 From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Tue Jun 5 01:31:03 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA17348; Tue, 5 Jun 90 01:28:40 -0700 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA17261; Tue, 5 Jun 90 01:21:13 -0700 Message-Id: <9006050821.AA17261@presto.ig.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 90 01:21:11 -0800 From: mcb@presto.ig.com (Michael C. Berch) Subject: A very few words about Sinead at Berkeley, 6/4/90 To: jump-in-the-river Cc: lear@turbo.bio.net Status: OR It is a few minutes after midnight, and I have just driven home from Berkeley where Sinead played at the Community Theater. I had carefully prepared to write a review of the concert, remembering all the songs in the right order, and what Sinead was wearing, and so forth, but I find myself almost completely unable to do so. I am 33 years old and I have been to a *lot* of concerts, from local bands whose members I knew, to people like Bob Dylan or the Rolling Stones who were my heroes when I was younger. And I have always been able to write something cogent and intellectual, recently on Usenet or mailing lists, before that in fanzines or school newspapers. But I really find it difficult to write about this evening's concert; it would be like trying to describe sex, or religion, or childbirth, things that connect deeply and intensely to the emotional parts of our selves. This is frustrating, since the reason I set up this list in the first place was to be able to write about things like this, and read what others have to say, but as I sit here I realize it is pointless, like trying to teach the concept of color to someone born colorblind. We just don't have words for these things. I remember images, snippets of sight and sounds, like the way that the audience (who not ten minutes before had been screaming ecstatically at a maximum-rock-n-roll "Emperor's New Clothes") fell utterly and absolutely silent for "Black Boys on Mopeds". Like the moment of fear we all felt when Sinead left the stage a few bars early in "Feel So Different", the first song of the evening: could whatever caused her to be unable to continue in a concert last week have returned? Like the unabashed sexuality of "I Want Your Hands on Me". Someone else will undoubtedly speculate as to why she didn't play "Troy", leaving us instead with an Irish folk ballad, "Gordon" [exact title?], or what exact lyrics were sung to what exact song, and so forth, but I feel no need to do so. And to the Irish reviewer who felt he deserved something more, and to whomever groused about waiting 45 minutes to hear Sinead play for an hour, I smile and realize that I would have gladly paid twice as much and waited twice as long to hear her play for *half* an hour. Some things can only be measured in quality, and and not in quantity. You have to realize that she doesn't have to do this, you know; she is perfectly capable of taking the proceeds from her record sales and staying on the other side of the ocean, playing live only for a few special friends and family. Touring is difficult and stressful work, and I do not in the least fault her for playing a short -- but incredibly intense -- set. Instead I feel lucky and privileged to have shared her space and heard her sing. Some of us felt the love and energy that Sinead puts into her music, while others, I fear, Will Never Understand. -- Michael C. Berch mcb@presto.ig.com / uunet!presto.ig.com!mcb / ames!bionet!mcb P.S. My apologies for the repeated messages in the last couple of days, which were due to machine crashes in the middle of mailer runs. I believe it is fixed at this point. From DMONEY@ducvax.auburn.edu Tue Jun 5 08:11:56 1990 Received: from ducvax.auburn.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA23341; Tue, 5 Jun 90 08:11:51 -0700 Message-Id: <9006051511.AA23341@presto.ig.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 90 10:16 CDT From: DMONEY@ducvax.auburn.edu Subject: RE: A very few words about Sinead at Berkeley, 6/4/90 To: mcb X-Vms-To: IN%"mcb@presto.ig.com" Status: OR I agree with Michael that quality, not quantity, is what makes Sinead what she is. She only has two albums, but each song is filled with such intense emotion... she is not cheating anybody out of anything. I don't know what others think they deserve from her. She has bared her soul to us. How can we ask for anything more? I saw her in Atlanta, and, though this show seems to have one of the longest on her tour, I don't think she owes us a two hour set in every U.S. city. She gives us what she's got; she's not holding anything back. If you feel cheated... if you REALLY feel ripped off... don't go to her shows. I'm sure she would understand. Dean From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Tue Jun 5 12:27:44 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA01672; Tue, 5 Jun 90 12:26:20 -0700 Received: from jade.Berkeley.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA01668; Tue, 5 Jun 90 12:26:15 -0700 Received: from xenon.Berkeley.EDU by jade.berkeley.edu (5.61.1/1.16.25) id AA03799; Tue, 5 Jun 90 12:21:16 PDT Received: by xenon.berkeley.edu. (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA06419; Tue, 5 Jun 90 12:24:41 PDT From: mudie@xenon.berkeley.edu (David C Mudie) Message-Id: <9006051924.AA06419@xenon.berkeley.edu.> To: jitr Subject: Re: sinead in berkeley In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 04 Jun 90 16:55:25 PDT <9006042355.AA197203@sprite.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 90 12:24:36 PDT Status: OR >From: Fred Douglis >total time was perhaps 65-70 minutes of singing, after 45 >minutes of waiting. i enjoyed what i saw, but the comment > However, considering the prolonged standing > ovation she received from the audience at the end, her brief > one-song encore was a bit disappointing. I, and everyone else in > the audience deserved and expected more. >from the irish emigrant's column hit close to home. Same here. I saw Sinead on the first tour a few years ago, and she sang for about the same length of time with only half the material to choose from. She did not dance around the stage, she did not grab at herself during "I Want Your...", and there was no technicolor light show. She just stood there and sang, and I got a lot closer to the religious experience Michael Berch felt on Monday. My impressions of the Sunday show? Someone has upped her marketability; they've augmented her show with the usual stadium-pleasers like fog machines and masturbatory gestures. The audience performed in lock-step with the artist -- all stand up and dance for a bouncy song, all sit down and rest during a quiet song, all clap loudly when she opens her mouth real big. Most of the songs were performed straight off the albums; only a few ("Last Day of Our Acquaintance", "Troy") burned with any personal fire. Like Bowie on the "Sound and Vision" tour, she just didn't seem to be putting a lot of herself into the performance. A friend of mine put it nicely -- "For twenty-three bucks, I expect her to do Mandinka." Which she didn't. Maybe I'm having a cynical week, maybe I "will never understand", but maybe next time I'll just sit home and play her albums Real Loud. -D- From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Tue Jun 5 15:09:36 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA07212; Tue, 5 Jun 90 15:05:49 -0700 Received: from gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA07208; Tue, 5 Jun 90 15:05:38 -0700 Received: by gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca with UUCP id 64167; Tue, 5 Jun 90 18:05:03 EDT Received: by trigraph.UUCP (5.51/smail2.5/1989-05-19/jjc) id AA18740; Tue, 5 Jun 90 11:00:50 EDT Date: Tue, 5 Jun 90 11:00:50 EDT From: trigraph!john@utcs.toronto.edu (John Chew) Message-Id: <9006051500.AA18740@trigraph.UUCP> To: jitr Subject: Re: Sinead re-tracing Kate Bush's footsteps Status: OR In <9006031517.AA00599@bmera259.bnr.ca> Michael Hui wrote: > Certain kinds of music lend themselves to lives performance, certain > other kinds don't. I think both Sinead's and Kate's music don't really > lend themselves to live performances as much as Jane Siberry's music > does, and Kate already has decided touring is not for her. Sinead may > very soon come to the same conclusion. I certainly hope she comes to no such conclusion. I do not believe that anyone who has seen her perform live could ever again be entirely satis- fied with her recorded work. She needs an audience to bring out the complete and spontaneous depth of emotion that her songs deserve. What criticism I have seen of her current tour has never been directed at the nature of her music, but is aimed instead at her lack of the kind of stage manners to which concert audiences have grown accustomed. She grows flustered and is at a loss for words when confronted with mass adulation. She dares to leave a hall after only one encore. Etc. Perhaps she could use some polite advice on these points. "Sinead, here is a list of cute things you can say to ten thousand screaming fans." "Ms. O'Connor, you must not leave the hall without performing three encores." But I know of a few dozen thousand people in Toronto who will happily continue to see her in concert even if she doesn't receive such advice. John -- John j. chew, iii phone: +1 416 425 3818 AppleLink: CDA0329 trigraph, inc., toronto, canada {uunet!utai!utcsri,utgpu,utzoo}!trigraph!john dept. of math., u. of toronto poslfit@{utorgpu.bitnet,gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca} From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Wed Jun 6 12:58:07 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA06662; Wed, 6 Jun 90 12:56:36 -0700 Received: from barad-dur.endor.cs.psu.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA06656; Wed, 6 Jun 90 12:56:32 -0700 Received: by barad-dur.endor.cs.psu.edu id 7234; Wed, 6 Jun 90 15:57:10 EDT From: "Patrick A. Troy" To: jitr Subject: Good-bye Message-Id: <90Jun6.155710edt.7234@barad-dur.endor.cs.psu.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 90 14:56:43 EDT Status: OR I am leaving Penn State at the end of the week and so I am asking that my address be removed from the mailing list. Thanks to all for the discusses of Sinead's songs and the concert review. I really enjoyed being a part of this mailing list. Take care!! Pat From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Wed Jun 6 14:37:48 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA09808; Wed, 6 Jun 90 14:36:36 -0700 Received: from decwrl.dec.com by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA09799; Wed, 6 Jun 90 14:36:30 -0700 Received: by decwrl.dec.com; id AA17002; Wed, 6 Jun 90 14:01:19 -0700 From: microsoft!marklew@decwrl.dec.com Message-Id: <9006062101.AA17002@decwrl.dec.com> To: jitr Subject: Re: Sinead re-tracing Kate Bush's footsteps Date: Wed Jun 06 13:45:08 1990 Status: OR |>From: uiucuxc!utcs.toronto.edu!trigraph!john (John Chew) | |In <9006031517.AA00599@bmera259.bnr.ca> Michael Hui | wrote: | |> Certain kinds of music lend themselves to lives performance, certain |> other kinds don't. I think both Sinead's and Kate's music don't really |> lend themselves to live performances as much as Jane Siberry's music |> does, and Kate already has decided touring is not for her. Sinead may |> very soon come to the same conclusion. | |I certainly hope she comes to no such conclusion. I do not believe that |anyone who has seen her perform live could ever again be entirely satis- |fied with her recorded work. She needs an audience to bring out the |complete and spontaneous depth of emotion that her songs deserve. This is true. I saw her first U.S. performances in Boston in '88, and the album seemed pretty flat after that. |What criticism I have seen of her current tour has never been directed |at the nature of her music, but is aimed instead at her lack of the kind |of stage manners to which concert audiences have grown accustomed. She |grows flustered and is at a loss for words when confronted with mass |adulation. She dares to leave a hall after only one encore. Etc. I think it's reasonable to be pissed if the artist only does a 45 minute set, which is the word on what happened in Texas. |Perhaps she could use some polite advice on these points. "Sinead, here |is a list of cute things you can say to ten thousand screaming fans." |"Ms. O'Connor, you must not leave the hall without performing three |encores." But I know of a few dozen thousand people in Toronto who |will happily continue to see her in concert even if she doesn't receive |such advice. Blah blah blah. Maybe she'll come to you in your dreams and kiss you on your forehead for "truly understanding". In Boston, her attitude toward the legions of men in her audience who wanted to put her on the Kate Bush pedestal was to glare at 'em (you know who you are), spit on the floor, and scream about "fucking so hard there was blood all over the walls". The Cult of Gender/Personality that boys create around female artists (Kate Bush, Sinead, and Toni Childs come to mind first), going on and on with such overwrought (psycho-)analysis... agghh! Get a life! Mark P.S. Tonight she's here in Seattle. I'm psyched! --- Mark Lewin marklew!microsoft@decwrl.dec.com "As the veneer of democracy starts to fade..." From sco!tracyr@ucscc.ucsc.edu Wed Jun 6 15:51:57 1990 Received: from ucscc.UCSC.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA12512; Wed, 6 Jun 90 15:51:53 -0700 Received: by ucscc.UCSC.EDU (5.61/1.35) id AA22773; Wed, 6 Jun 90 15:54:42 -0700 From: sco!tracyr@ucscc.ucsc.edu Message-Id: <9006062254.AA22773@ucscc.UCSC.EDU> To: jitr-request Subject: Re: sinead in berkeley Date: Wed Jun 6 09:44:53 1990 Status: OR I went to the Monday show. I agree with Michael in that the 1 hour show was pure quality. However, I can't let go of the disappointment that she didn't do "Troy". Or "Mandinka". She's still young, and I sense a bit intimated by a large audience. Tracy From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu Jun 7 14:30:22 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA13772; Thu, 7 Jun 90 14:27:19 -0700 Received: from ames.arc.nasa.gov by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA13764; Thu, 7 Jun 90 14:27:13 -0700 Received: by ames.arc.nasa.gov (5.61/1.2); Thu, 7 Jun 90 14:27:04 -0700 Posted-Date: 7 Jun 90 02:10:57 PDT (Thu) Received: from uunet.UU.NET by cs.utexas.edu (5.61/1.62) id AA21667; Thu, 7 Jun 90 15:37:26 -0500 Received: from nwnexus.UUCP by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP id AA07000; Thu, 7 Jun 90 16:37:17 -0400 Received: by nwnexus.WA.COM (5.52.1/smail2.5/10-31-88) id AA03629; Thu, 7 Jun 90 02:11:10 PDT Received: by sensual.wa.com (UUPC/pcmail 1.0095) with UUCP; Thu, 07 Jun 90 01:44:25 PST Date: Thu, 07 Jun 90 01:44:25 PST From: Steve Schonberger Message-ID: <266e21f9@sensual.wa.com> To: jitr@presto.ig.com Subject: Sinead does Seattle Status: OR I just got home from Sinead'sshow in Seattle. My biggest complaint about it is with the prmoter's choice of promotional radio station. Instead of the local progressive (or whatever you want to call it) station, they went with some regular pop station, and I didn't hear about the show here until I called the progressive station and asked. They pointed me to the other station (which I tried listening to, but found pretty much unlistenable), and I got the show date from them. Unfortunately, the day or two I spent asking friends to join me was enough delay that the show sold out before I could get tickets. I was at the mercy of scalpers. Tonight though, fate was better to me. I arrived there, armed with a mere $44. I saw about 60 people lined up waiting for the box office to sell the no-show tickets, and not a single scalper. I went to the end of the line and hoped. After about twenty minutes there, a scalper wandered up, but someone ahead of me in the line noticed first and got that ticket. After another twenty minutes the box office put the no-shows on sale: all five. The crowd outside started to disperse, hope lost but uncertain of what to do next. But as I was starting to turn away a woman near me offered to sell me hers! She had bought herself one, but her date didn't have a ticket, so when she couldn't buy one for him she decided to sell hers. I offered 25, then 30, then 35, knowing she'd sell it but not certain someone else would offer more. That was enough for her and I had a ticket! I was about two thirds of the way back, but on the main floor fairly near the center. People in adjacent seats told me that I had missed the opener, Hugh Harris, completely. After a moderate wait, the lights dimmed and the filler music went silent. Sinead started with "Feel So Different", singing the first verse from behind the curtains. She played it fairly close to the album, barely audible over the annoyingly noisy crowd. She was wearing loose, silky, elaborately colored and patterned (Middle Eastern?) pants and a nondescript shirt. She had gained a great deal of weight since her last tour, but was still very slim. She looked taller too, probably because of a more confident attitude, or perhaps lighting. Next she played "The Emperor's New Clothes". She played it louder and a little more roughly than on the album, but still was occasionally drowned out by audience noise. She danced around, and the lighting got showier. Her third song was "I Want Your Hands on Me". She rubbed herself vigorously to indicate where she wanted the hands, and played the song quite differently from the album. She varied the tempo somewhat, and sang different notes from some of the chords. Last time she played it very close to the album. Audience noice drowned out the beginning, but finally settled to within reason. "Three Babies" and "Black Boys on Mopeds" were next. They were close to the album, except for an extra swear word or two in the latter. Awe finally quieted the audience enough that both songs were audible throughout, much to my relief. "Jackie" and "I Am Stretched on Your Grave" were my favorites tonight. The arrangement she did of "Jackie" was different from the album version (and the last tour's version, which was close to the album), but equally wonderful. She played "Stretched" alone under a spot light, accompanied only by a tape, which was probably the album's instrumental tracks. Her vocals were very close to the album, which can hardly be improved upon anyway. The song that followed was almost completely overwhelmed by audience noise. During the show I couldn't tell at all what song it was, except that it wasn't one from _The Lion and the Cobra_. After looking at the lyrics sheet for _I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got_, and listening to some of the songs, I think it was "The Last Day of Our Acquaintence", because one of the words at or near the end sounded like "already". It could also have been a new song. "Nothing Compares 2 U" and "Jump in the River" followed. Both were pretty close to the album, and reasonably undisrupted by crowd noise. Like on the album and every performance of this tour I've heard reviewed, she sang "did it so hard". "Jerusalem" was the last before her break. One of the songs she played she started two or three times before getting the volume above the noise level, and I think this was it. It was quite a bit closer to the album than the others from _The Lion and the Cobra_. It sounded somewhat harsher and less engineered. Before leaving the stage, she said something that sounded like "I'll be back after a ten minute break." It was muddled by the crowd noise, and I doubt that was what she said, because she was back after a little over one minute of "encore-please" cheering. She said more in introducing the last song than she had said in the rest of the show and the other time I saw her together. She announced the song as long, quiet, and Scottish, and asked people to be quiet during it. She also said that the long pauses between verses weren't the end, and that she would step away from the microphone when it really was the end. Almost everyone respected that, aside from some scattered cheering at the first pause. The song was very pretty, and about a woman named Jeannie who was forced to marry a lord instead of the man she loved. She sang and played alone. The show before her break was about 55 minutes, and the song about Jeannie lasted about ten more minutes. The light show was a lot fancier than last time around, though not overwhelming. The biggest difference was her stage presence: Last time she looked shy and terrified, but this time she looked like a seasoned performer in front of the much larger audience. After the misfortune of missing the regular ticket sales (which would have been $18.50), I'm pretty happy I saw the concert for only $35. That's in spite of the obnoxious crowd. It's not the incredible steal I got last time (the $7.50 face price), but it was still worth it! Sorry I ran on so long, and about the subject line. There was a lot to tell, and I couldn't resist. Steve -- Steve Schonberger Why should I disclaim anything when I own this site? steve@sensual.wa.com (Yet another site named after a Kate Bush song) From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri Jun 8 17:26:26 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA23039; Fri, 8 Jun 90 17:24:37 -0700 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA22970; Fri, 8 Jun 90 17:19:42 -0700 Message-Id: <9006090019.AA22970@presto.ig.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 90 17:19:40 -0800 From: mcb@presto.ig.com (Michael C. Berch) Subject: Re: Sinead re-tracing Kate Bush's footsteps To: jitr X-Orig-Date: Wed Jun 06 13:45:08 1990 X-Orig-From: microsoft!marklew@decwrl.dec.com X-Orig-Message-Id: <9006062101.AA17002@decwrl.dec.com> Status: OR > [John Chew:] > |Perhaps she could use some polite advice on these points. "Sinead, here > |is a list of cute things you can say to ten thousand screaming fans." > |"Ms. O'Connor, you must not leave the hall without performing three > |encores." But I know of a few dozen thousand people in Toronto who > |will happily continue to see her in concert even if she doesn't receive > |such advice. > > [Mark Lewin:] > Blah blah blah. Maybe she'll come to you in your dreams and kiss you on > your forehead for "truly understanding". In Boston, her attitude toward > the legions of men in her audience who wanted to put her on the Kate Bush > pedestal was to glare at 'em (you know who you are), spit on the floor, > and scream about "fucking so hard there was blood all over the walls". > > The Cult of Gender/Personality that boys create around female artists > (Kate Bush, Sinead, and Toni Childs come to mind first), going on and > on with such overwrought (psycho-)analysis... agghh! Get a life! I dunno. I don't think this was in any way the case in Berkeley, not do I think it is representative of Sinead's fans in general. (Nor, based on the interviews I've heard and articles I've read, or seeing her demeanor at the concert or in other concert footage, do I think the above represents Sinead's attitude, either.) The Berkeley audience was interesting in that it was the first time that I remember that women outnumbered men at a concert that was not by someone who has been specifically promoted (or self-identifies) as a "womens' artist". I haven't looked at the JITR list closely, but my sense is that the number of women roughly approximate the number of men here, which is unusual given the usual gender demographics of the Net. Undoubtedly there exists some sort of cult of Sinead, and undoubtedly there is some sort of sexual/aesthetic/stylistic component to it, involving both men and women, but it is totally different, to my mind, than the sort of thing that is tied up with Madonna or Tiffany or Kylie Minogue, or Kate Bush or Toni Childs for that matter. -- Michael C. Berch mcb@presto.ig.com / uunet!presto.ig.com!mcb / ames!bionet!mcb From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri Jun 8 18:34:28 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA24475; Fri, 8 Jun 90 18:32:51 -0700 Received: from ames.arc.nasa.gov by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA24473; Fri, 8 Jun 90 18:32:49 -0700 Received: from handies.ucar.edu by ames.arc.nasa.gov (5.61/1.2); Fri, 8 Jun 90 18:32:42 -0700 Received: by ncar.ucar.EDU (5.61/ NCAR Central Post Office 04/10/90) id AA14926; Fri, 8 Jun 90 19:32:40 MDT Received: by scicom.alphacdc.com (smail2.5) id AA28187; 8 Jun 90 17:55:53 MDT (Fri) To: jitr Subject: Red Rocks!! Message-Id: <9006081755.AA28187@scicom.alphacdc.com> Date: 8 Jun 90 17:55:53 MDT (Fri) From: hopi@scicom.alphacdc.com (Hopi Star Lord) Status: OR ALERT!!! ALERT!!! ALERT!!! Sinead O'Connor is going to be spotted at Red Rocks on Monday 11th!!!! All those in Colorado!! Be there!!! -hopi s. lord From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri Jun 8 20:40:44 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA26247; Fri, 8 Jun 90 20:37:16 -0700 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA26243; Fri, 8 Jun 90 20:37:12 -0700 Received: from E40-008-6.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA14930; Fri, 8 Jun 90 23:37:08 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by E40-008-6.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA17724; Fri, 8 Jun 90 23:37:06 -0400 Message-Id: <9006090337.AA17724@E40-008-6.MIT.EDU> To: jitr Subject: Call me ignorant Date: Fri, 08 Jun 90 23:37:04 EDT Status: OR Hi, I just saw an ad in the latest Rolling Stone, about a video tape of Sinead, called "THE VALUE OF IGNORANCE". Does anybody know anything about it? Should I buy it? Info will be appreciated. BTW, whatever happened to "The Emperor's new clothes". Has it been released? Thanks, Angelos From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Sat Jun 9 21:35:56 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA13481; Sat, 9 Jun 90 21:34:02 -0700 Received: from uunet.UU.NET by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA13477; Sat, 9 Jun 90 21:34:00 -0700 Received: from edsr.UUCP by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP id AA14049; Sun, 10 Jun 90 00:33:54 -0400 Received: from tantalum.eds.com (abqtoalh) by edsr.eds.com id AA19495; Sat, 9 Jun 90 23:17:22 CDT Received: from argon.eds.com by tantalum.eds.com (4.0/ALBUQUERQUE-1.1) id AA01897; Sat, 9 Jun 90 22:17:07 MDT Received: by argon.eds.com (15.11/ALBSUB-1.3) id AA00465; Sat, 9 Jun 90 22:16:57 mdt Date: Sat, 9 Jun 90 22:16:57 mdt From: edsr!tantalum!cheeks@uunet.uu.net (Mark Costlow) Message-Id: <9006100416.AA00465@argon.eds.com> To: jitr Subject: New Sinead Video Status: OR Somebody asked about a new Sinead O'Connor video called "The Value Of Ignorance". It does indeed exist. My local record store just got it yesterday ... yours should have it by now too. It's 35 minutes of live footage from a concert she did in London on June 3, 1988. It cost me $13. Here's the track list: 1. jackie 2. just like u said it would be 3. mandinka 4. just call me joe 5. never get old 6. jerusalem 7. troy 8. i am stretched on your grave So, it's most of "The Lion ...", with one from "I Do Not Want ...". Most were performed fairly true to the album, except that "I Am Stretched On Your Grave" was sung a capella. The electricity of the live performance is pretty awesome on "Jerusalem" and "Troy". I'm sure it doesn't compare to seeing a live performance, but for us poor suckers that aren't going to be able to see her, it's a decent compromise. I heartily recommend it. Mark cheeks@edsr.eds.com or ...uunet!edsr!cheeks From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Sun Jun 10 02:15:43 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA16102; Sun, 10 Jun 90 02:14:22 -0700 Received: from ames.arc.nasa.gov by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA16100; Sun, 10 Jun 90 02:14:18 -0700 Received: by ames.arc.nasa.gov (5.61/1.2); Sun, 10 Jun 90 02:14:11 -0700 Posted-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 90 23:04:08 PST Received: from uunet.UU.NET by cs.utexas.edu (5.61/1.63) id AA23880; Sun, 10 Jun 90 03:32:43 -0500 Received: from nwnexus.UUCP by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP id AA01473; Sun, 10 Jun 90 04:32:35 -0400 Received: by nwnexus.WA.COM (5.52.1/smail2.5/10-31-88) id AA02055; Sat, 9 Jun 90 21:52:37 PDT Received: by sensual.wa.com (UUPC/pcmail 1.0095) with UUCP; Thu, 07 Jun 90 23:04:08 PST Date: Thu, 07 Jun 90 23:04:08 PST From: Steve Schonberger Message-Id: <266f4de8@sensual.wa.com> X-Mailer: UUPC/mail 1.095 To: jitr Subject: grrr, bounces... Status: OR This got corrupted somewhere along the line, and appears to have bounced. If that's not the case and you see it twice, ignore it and pardon me. If it didn't get out before, join me in cursing whatever system corrupted the mail... Date: Thu, 07 Jun 90 01:44:31 PST From: Steve Schonberger Subject: Sinead does Seattle I just got home from Sinead's show in Seattle. My biggest complaint about it is with the promoter's choice of promotional radio station. Instead of the local progressive (or whatever you want to call it) station, they went with some regular pop station, and I didn't hear about the show here until I called the progressive station and asked. They pointed me to the other station (which I tried listening to, but found pretty much unlistenable), and I got the show date from them. Unfortunately, the day or two I spent asking friends to join me was enough delay that the show sold out before I could get tickets. I was at the mercy of scalpers. Tonight though, fate was better to me. I arrived there, armed with a mere $44. I saw about 60 people lined up waiting for the box office to sell the no-show tickets, and not a single scalper. I went to the end of the line and hoped. After about twenty minutes there, a scalper wandered up, but someone ahead of me in the line noticed first and got that ticket. After another twenty minutes the box office put the no-shows on sale: all five. The crowd outside started to disperse, hope lost but uncertain of what to do next. But as I was starting to turn away a woman near me offered to sell me hers! She had bought herself one, but her date didn't have a ticket, so when she couldn't buy one for him she decided to sell hers. I offered 25, then 30, then 35, knowing she'd sell it but not certain someone else would offer more. That was enough for her and I had a ticket! I was about two thirds of the way back, but on the main floor fairly near the center. People in adjacent seats told me that I had missed the opener, Hugh Harris, completely. After a moderate wait, the lights dimmed and the filler music went silent. Sinead started with "Feel So Different", singing the first verse from behind the curtains. She played it fairly close to the album, barely audible over the annoyingly noisy crowd. She was wearing loose, silky, elaborately colored and patterned (Middle Eastern?) pants and a nondescript shirt. She had gained a great deal of weight since her last tour, but was still very slim. She looked taller too, probably because of a more confident attitude, or perhaps lighting. Next she played "The Emperor's New Clothes". She played it louder and a little more roughly than on the album, but still was occasionally drowned out by audience noise. She danced around, and the lighting got showier. Her third song was "I Want Your Hands on Me". She rubbed herself vigorously to indicate where she wanted the hands, and played the song quite differently from the album. She varied the tempo somewhat, and sang different notes from some of the chords. Last time she played it very close to the album. Audience noice drowned out the beginning, but finally settled to within reason. "Three Babies" and "Black Boys on Mopeds" were next. They were close to the album, except for an extra swear word or two in the latter. Awe finally quieted the audience enough that both songs were audible throughout, much to my relief. "Jackie" and "I Am Stretched on Your Grave" were my favorites tonight. The arrangement she did of "Jackie" was different from the album version (and the last tour's version, which was close to the album), but equally wonderful. She played "Stretched" alone under a spot light, accompanied only by a tape, which was probably the album's instrumental tracks. Her vocals were very close to the album, which can hardly be improved upon anyway. The song that followed was almost completely overwhelmed by audience noise. During the show I couldn't tell at all what song it was, except that it wasn't one from _The Lion and the Cobra_. After looking at the lyrics sheet for _I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got_, and listening to some of the songs, I think it was "The Last Day of Our Acquaintence", because one of the words at or near the end sounded like "already". It could also have been a new song. "Nothing Compares 2 U" and "Jump in the River" followed. Both were pretty close to the album, and reasonably undisrupted by crowd noise. Like on the album and every performance of this tour I've heard reviewed, she sang "did it so hard". "Jerusalem" was the last before her break. One of the songs she played she started two or three times before getting the volume above the noise level, and I think this was it. It was quite a bit closer to the album than the others from _The Lion and the Cobra_. It sounded somewhat harsher and less engineered. Before leaving the stage, she said something that sounded like "I'll be back after a ten minute break." It was muddled by the crowd noise, and I doubt that was what she said, because she was back after a little over one minute of "encore-please" cheering. She said more in introducing the last song than she had said in the rest of the show and the other time I saw her together. She announced the song as long, quiet, and Scottish, and asked people to be quiet during it. She also said that the long pauses between verses weren't the end, and that she would step away from the microphone when it really was the end. Almost everyone respected that, aside from some scattered cheering at the first pause. The song was very pretty, and about a woman named Jeannie who was forced to marry a lord instead of the man she loved. She sang and played alone. The show before her break was about 55 minutes, and the song about Jeannie lasted about ten more minutes. The light show was a lot fancier than last time around, though not overwhelming. The biggest difference was her stage presence: Last time she looked shy and terrified, but this time she looked like a seasoned performer in front of the much larger audience. After the misfortune of missing the regular ticket sales (which would have been $18.50), I'm pretty happy I saw the concert for only $35. That's in spite of the obnoxious crowd. It's not the incredible steal I got last time (the $7.50 face price), but it was still worth it! Sorry I ran on so long, and about the subject line. There was a lot to tell, and I couldn't resist. Steve -- Steve Schonberger Why should I disclaim anything when I own this site? steve@sensual.wa.com (Yet another site named after a Kate Bush song) From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon Jun 11 04:19:03 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA02522; Mon, 11 Jun 90 04:16:56 -0700 Received: from CORNELLC.CIT.CORNELL.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA02518; Mon, 11 Jun 90 04:16:53 -0700 Message-Id: <9006111116.AA02518@presto.ig.com> Received: from IRLEARN.UCD.IE by CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1MX) with BSMTP id 1317; Mon, 11 Jun 90 07:15:49 EDT Received: from ccvax.ucd.ie by IRLEARN.UCD.IE (Mailer R2.03B) with BSMTP id 1445; Mon, 11 Jun 90 12:07:40 GMT Date: Mon, 11 Jun 90 12:03 GMT From: Turkish Defence Ministry Subject: Anachie Gordon To: jitr X-Vms-To: IN%"jitr@presto.ig.com" Status: OR One of the songs that Steve mentions Sinead singing at a recent concert sonds a lot like "Anachie Gordon", a Scottish ballad about a girl forced to marry the local Lord while her lover Anachie was away at sea. This is a fabulous song, and I can heartily recommend another Irish singer, Mary Black, who has it and others on her first album. -- Bjh University College Dublin, Ireland. From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon Jun 11 05:52:57 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA03377; Mon, 11 Jun 90 05:52:37 -0700 Received: from nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA03373; Mon, 11 Jun 90 05:52:28 -0700 Received: from sun.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by vax.NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK via Janet with NIFTP id aa15566; 11 Jun 90 13:08 BST From: E Welsh Subject: Sinead cancels ... To: jitr Date: Mon, 11 Jun 90 12:54:54 BST Message-Id: <9006111254.aa00997@castle.ed.ac.uk> Status: OR Sinead has cancelled her Scottish dates, i.e. Glasgow Barrowlands 19th, Edinburgh Playhouse 20th and 21st (of June). I'm depressed. They will be rescheduled though. It's something to do with "sultry Sinead" needing to take a rest after a "gruelling US tour". I'm still depressed. Evan... (Hey that was my first post - pretty good huh!) From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon Jun 11 09:41:12 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA08142; Mon, 11 Jun 90 09:40:13 -0700 Received: from cheops.cis.ohio-state.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA08132; Mon, 11 Jun 90 09:40:08 -0700 Received: from oz-o.cis.ohio-state.edu by cheops.cis.ohio-state.edu (5.61-kk/5.900605) id AA17640; Mon, 11 Jun 90 12:40:02 -0400 Received: by oz.cis.ohio-state.edu (5.61-kk/5.900417) id AA08346; Mon, 11 Jun 90 12:39:02 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 90 12:39:02 -0400 From: J Greely Message-Id: <9006111639.AA08346@oz.cis.ohio-state.edu> To: jitr Subject: Sinead on VH1 New Visions 6/11/90 Status: OR Just spotted this a few minutes ago. She does live versions of "The last day of our acquaintance" and "I do not want what I haven't got", and possibly more (I came in a bit late). It will be broadcast again at 11:00 pm EDT. -- J Greely (jgreely@cis.ohio-state.edu; osu-cis!jgreely) From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon Jun 11 14:15:42 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA18001; Mon, 11 Jun 90 14:14:23 -0700 Received: from sdsu.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA17997; Mon, 11 Jun 90 14:14:20 -0700 Received: from sunstroke.sdsu.edu by sdsu.edu; id AA15590 sendmail 5.61/SDSU-GW-1.5 via SMTP Mon, 11 Jun 90 14:14:12 -0700 for jitr@presto.ig.com Received: from derek@sunstroke.SDSU.EDU (ls_mac4.SDSU.EDU) by sunstroke.SDSU.EDU (4.1/SDSUGENERIC.2) id AA10218 for delivery to jitr@presto.ig.com; Mon, 11 Jun 90 14:09:10 PDT Date: Mon, 11 Jun 90 14:09:09 PDT From: derek%sunstroke@sdsu.edu (Derek Langsford) Message-Id: <9006112109.AA10218@sunstroke.SDSU.EDU> To: jitr Cc: Subject: Re "Nothing Compares 2U" cover Status: OR >So, is the new cover of "Nothing Compares 2 U" getting much airplay in >places other than the Bay Area? It's by an Italian band variously >referred to as "MXM" or "Maximum" (I haven't seen the record itself >anywhere). It features a singer who sounds a little like Sinead on >diet pills (or maybe helium) and a synthetic backing beat complete >with piano riffs. Live 105 (KITS-FM, San Francisco) has been playing >it a couple times daily for the last few weeks, and for the first few >times it was good for a double-take until you realized that it wasn't >Sinead. (At first I thought it might have been the original version >by Prince's "Family" band.) -- >Michael C. Berch >mcb@presto.ig.com / uunet!presto.ig.com!mcb / ames!bionet!mcb I just got back from Britain after 3 weeks there and heard the song several times on Radio 1 (the UK's national pop/rock station). It's in the UK top 10 I think and is nothing but a trite, money grabbing rip off. The same goes for another cover in the top 10 there of "I still haven't found what I'm looking for". This again has a dance rhythm as backing - utterly contemptable. I cannot believe that this is the depth of unoriginality that Brits are stooping to whether it is making the records or buying them. These are not alternative impressions of great songs, just feeding of the dance orientated music scene prevalent at the moment 'Twas sad and reminded me of the Stars on 45 disco medalies from the 70s that did painfully well. Is this all there is after Stock, Aitkin and Waterman? Wake me up when Sinead or Kate Bush release a new album :-) Derek derek@sunstroke.sdsu.edu From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon Jun 11 14:35:46 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA18501; Mon, 11 Jun 90 14:35:20 -0700 Received: from sdsu.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA18490; Mon, 11 Jun 90 14:35:16 -0700 Received: from sunstroke.sdsu.edu by sdsu.edu; id AA15868 sendmail 5.61/SDSU-GW-1.5 via SMTP Mon, 11 Jun 90 14:35:04 -0700 for jitr@presto.ig.com Received: from derek@sunstroke.SDSU.EDU (ls_mac4.SDSU.EDU) by sunstroke.SDSU.EDU (4.1/SDSUGENERIC.2) id AA10257 for delivery to jitr@presto.ig.com; Mon, 11 Jun 90 14:30:01 PDT Date: Mon, 11 Jun 90 14:30:01 PDT From: derek%sunstroke@sdsu.edu (Derek Langsford) Message-Id: <9006112130.AA10257@sunstroke.SDSU.EDU> To: jitr Cc: Subject: Various Status: OR After 3 wonderful weeks in Britain I have the following to report. There is a Sinead interview and free poster in a recent NME (New Musical Express) which I read on the plane trip back. The interview didn't contain anything really that was new about her new album, her feelings or her life that I haven't seen on the net before or read in other interviews. I planned my trip several months ago only to find out that Sinead's concert here in San Diego was slap bang in the middle of it :-( Aaaarghh! While there I purchased the UK CD of "IDNWWIHG" and was rewarded with a Nimbus pressing. Fluffy Yog reported a few weeks ago that the UK CD was pressed by EMI - maybe this was a different run. Both are feasible as Chrysalis, the parent company of Ensign, have used Nimbus for their CDs in the past, and, Chrysalis have recently been taken over by EMI. derek _____________________________________________________________________________ Derek Langsford | "It could take me all my life, Polperro->Edinburgh->San Diego | or it could only take a moment..." derek@sunstroke.sdsu.edu | Kate Bush, Love & Anger _____________________________________________________________________________ From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon Jun 11 15:06:28 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA19685; Mon, 11 Jun 90 15:05:57 -0700 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA19504; Mon, 11 Jun 90 14:59:24 -0700 Message-Id: <9006112159.AA19504@presto.ig.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 90 14:59:19 -0800 From: mcb@presto.ig.com (Michael C. Berch) Subject: JITR on autopilot until 17 June To: jitr Status: OR I will be out of town until 17 June and the list will be running on autopilot, meaning that there will be no additions/deletions/requests/etc. and that mailer problems, if any, will probably go unsolved until then. Unfortunately the other person who maintains the mailers here will be away during this period as well, so I really hope there is not a repeat of the duplicate-message problem or anything else that is obnoxious. If anything *really* major blows up, please notify "postmaster@presto.ig.com". I hope to deal with the additions/deletions backlog by the end of the day today, so if you have a request pending, it should be done shortly. Until next week, Michael jitr-request@presto.ig.com From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Tue Jun 12 02:08:14 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA02357; Tue, 12 Jun 90 02:04:51 -0700 Received: from mcsun.eu.net by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA02353; Tue, 12 Jun 90 02:04:33 -0700 Received: by mcsun.EU.net via EUnet; Tue, 12 Jun 90 11:04:23 +0200 (MET) Received: from axion.bt.co.uk by kestrel.Ukc.AC.UK via PSS (UKC CAMEL FTP) id aa02577; 12 Jun 90 9:49 BST Received: from kitkat by zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk via SMTP channel id aa15468; 12 Jun 90 4:47 BST To: derek Cc: jitr Subject: Re: Re "Nothing Compares 2U" cover In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 11 Jun 90 14:09:09 -0700. <9006112109.AA10218@sunstroke.SDSU.EDU> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 90 09:48:20 GMT From: Philip Katz Message-Id: <9006120447.aa15468@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk> Status: OR > >So, is the new cover of "Nothing Compares 2 U" getting much airplay in Let's not forget that Sinead's version was also a cover !! Also, _I am stretched on you grave_ is a cover of a Scullion song from their first album, on which Philip King sings it acapella. It still sends shivers down my spine after many years of listening to it. I don't really think that Sinead does it justice. > The same goes for > another cover in the top 10 there of "I still haven't found what I'm looking > for". This again has a dance rhythm as backing - utterly contemptable. This is by a band called The Chimes. I've got the album but haven't had a chance to listen to it yet. I don't expect that it will be very good. I agree that it's `utterly contemptible' ... if you are going to cover a song, at least cover one by a decent group and not crap like U2 !!!! Philip. From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Tue Jun 12 09:20:57 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA09145; Tue, 12 Jun 90 09:15:18 -0700 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA09133; Tue, 12 Jun 90 09:15:11 -0700 Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.3/3.06) id AA21652; Tue, 12 Jun 90 12:15:00 EDT Date: Tue, 12 Jun 90 12:14:58 EDT From: jessica To: jitr Subject: stretched on your grave? Message-Id: Status: OR Someone said "stretched on your grave" is a cover? I thought it was a traditional song.. So far as i know, it is likely that it was not an original piece by the other band mentioned either.. I tihnk both versions should be called interpretations more so than "covers". jessica ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | I will live by my own policies, I will sleep with a clear conscience, | | I will sleep in peace. (Sinead O'Connor) | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Tue Jun 12 10:03:13 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA10649; Tue, 12 Jun 90 10:01:53 -0700 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA10645; Tue, 12 Jun 90 10:01:48 -0700 Received: from E40-008-10.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA22224; Tue, 12 Jun 90 13:01:43 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by E40-008-10.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA09892; Tue, 12 Jun 90 13:01:39 -0400 Message-Id: <9006121701.AA09892@E40-008-10.MIT.EDU> To: jitr Subject: Sinead on video Date: Tue, 12 Jun 90 13:01:37 EDT Status: OR Hi again, Thanks to the person who answered my question about the "Value of ignorance" video. I bought it that day, and I think it's great. Its images are pretty obscure, and it is by no means only a "concert" video. Don't expect to see Sinead and the band jamming...Its version of "Stretched on your grave" is incredible. No beat, no fiddle, no little dance at the end. Just pure emotion. And, by the way...As I was having breakfast yesterday, I was watching MTV, and an old World Party video came up called "Private Revolution". And guess who was in it. Yes...Sinead who was singing along, dancing to the music and participating in the whole thing. It was great, although a friend of mine thought her robot-like dance moves were hilarious. Catch it if you can! Until later, Angelos From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Tue Jun 12 10:22:39 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA11302; Tue, 12 Jun 90 10:21:19 -0700 Received: from kvetching.Berkeley.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA11298; Tue, 12 Jun 90 10:21:16 -0700 Received: by sprite.Berkeley.EDU (5.59/1.29) id AA590413; Tue, 12 Jun 90 10:21:15 PDT Message-Id: <9006121721.AA590413@sprite.Berkeley.EDU> To: jitr Subject: Re: stretched on your grave? Date: Tue, 12 Jun 90 10:21:14 PDT From: Fred Douglis Status: OR Can anyone provide a simple explanation of the term "cover" everyone's been using in recent messages? Fred From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Tue Jun 12 11:04:14 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA08142; Mon, 11 Jun 90 09:40:13 -0700 Received: from cheops.cis.ohio-state.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA08132; Mon, 11 Jun 90 09:40:08 -0700 Received: from oz-o.cis.ohio-state.edu by cheops.cis.ohio-state.edu (5.61-kk/5.900605) id AA17640; Mon, 11 Jun 90 12:40:02 -0400 Received: by oz.cis.ohio-state.edu (5.61-kk/5.900417) id AA08346; Mon, 11 Jun 90 12:39:02 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 90 12:39:02 -0400 From: J Greely Message-Id: <9006111639.AA08346@oz.cis.ohio-state.edu> To: jitr Subject: Sinead on VH1 New Visions 6/11/90 Status: OR Just spotted this a few minutes ago. She does live versions of "The last day of our acquaintance" and "I do not want what I haven't got", and possibly more (I came in a bit late). It will be broadcast again at 11:00 pm EDT. -- J Greely (jgreely@cis.ohio-state.edu; osu-cis!jgreely) From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Tue Jun 12 11:08:09 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA11302; Tue, 12 Jun 90 10:21:19 -0700 Received: from kvetching.Berkeley.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA11298; Tue, 12 Jun 90 10:21:16 -0700 Received: by sprite.Berkeley.EDU (5.59/1.29) id AA590413; Tue, 12 Jun 90 10:21:15 PDT Message-Id: <9006121721.AA590413@sprite.Berkeley.EDU> To: jitr Subject: Re: stretched on your grave? Date: Tue, 12 Jun 90 10:21:14 PDT From: Fred Douglis Status: OR Can anyone provide a simple explanation of the term "cover" everyone's been using in recent messages? Fred From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Tue Jun 12 12:04:25 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA02959; Tue, 12 Jun 90 12:02:15 -0700 Received: from cheops.cis.ohio-state.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA02955; Tue, 12 Jun 90 12:02:12 -0700 Received: from stegosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu by cheops.cis.ohio-state.edu (5.61-kk/5.900605) id AA01988; Tue, 12 Jun 90 15:01:33 -0400 Received: by dinosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu (5.61-kk/5.900417) id AA01943; Tue, 12 Jun 90 15:01:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 90 15:01:22 -0400 From: John R. Mudd Message-Id: <9006121901.AA01943@dinosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu> To: douglis@allspice.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: stretched on your grave? Cc: jitr Status: OR Cover, n. a release of a song by one group that has already been released by another. High school bands generally perform cover versions of songs, because they don't have the maturity to write their own music (U2 was an ex- ception to that rule). ... John From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu Jun 14 02:07:48 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA22478; Thu, 14 Jun 90 02:05:56 -0700 Received: from mcsun.eu.net by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA22474; Thu, 14 Jun 90 02:05:44 -0700 Received: by mcsun.EU.net via EUnet; Thu, 14 Jun 90 11:05:34 +0200 (MET) Received: from axion.bt.co.uk by kestrel.Ukc.AC.UK via PSS (UKC CAMEL FTP) id aa04572; 14 Jun 90 9:48 BST Received: from kitkat by zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk via SMTP channel id aa17503; 14 Jun 90 4:46 BST To: jessica Cc: jitr Subject: Re: stretched on your grave? Date: Thu, 14 Jun 90 09:47:14 GMT From: Philip Katz Message-Id: <9006140446.aa17503@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk> Status: OR -------- > Someone said "stretched on your grave" is a cover? > > I thought it was a traditional song.. So far as i know, it > is likely that it was not an original piece by the other > band mentioned either.. I tihnk both versions should be called > interpretations more so than "covers". I said it. _I am stretched on your grave_ was written by Philip King and F O'Connor. Philip King sang it acapella on the first Scullion album (entitled _Scullion_). Not only do they get song writing credits on Sinead's album, but Philip King did Sinead's vocal arrangement. The Scullion *original* version was far superior (imho) to Sinead's *cover* version. > High school bands generally perform cover versions of songs, because > they don't have the maturity to write their own music (U2 was an ex- > ception to that rule). U2 was no exception to this rule! I can remember hearing them cover _Mannequin_ (from Wire's _Pink Flag_ album) in the early days, and they used to cover a couple of other songs as well (can't remember which right now). Bono told me that he was heavily into _Pink Flag_ (this was 77/78) and it probably had quite an effect on the early U2. Philip Katz, :|: PKatz@axion.bt.co.uk British Telecom Research Laboratories :|: 'phone + 44 473 642682 RT3131, SSTF 310, Martlesham Heath :|: fax + 44 473 637619 Ipswich, Suffolk, England IP5 7RE :|: pager +44 81 840 7000 unit 4257598 You can tune a Bass but you can't tuna fish ... From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon Jun 18 09:24:09 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA04011; Mon, 18 Jun 90 09:21:07 -0700 Received: from nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA04007; Mon, 18 Jun 90 09:21:00 -0700 Received: from sun.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by vax.NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK via Janet with NIFTP id aa17115; 18 Jun 90 14:54 BST From: E Welsh Subject: [E Welsh: Sinead cancels ...] To: jitr Date: Mon, 18 Jun 90 15:05:57 BST Message-Id: <9006181506.aa00417@castle.ed.ac.uk> Status: OR > Sinead has cancelled her Scottish dates, i.e. Glasgow Barrowlands 19th, > Edinburgh Playhouse 20th and 21st (of June). I'm depressed. They will be I have since heard from the Playhouse itself that the performance of the 20th has been shifted to the 22nd. Great ! But I don't know about the other two shows. Perhaps this doesn't concern anyone else as you all seem to be across the pond but we live in hope ... / __ /\ ecwu59@castle.ed.ac.uk /\ Are you selling your \ \ |_ \ / \/ rew@lfcs.ed.ac.uk \/ soul to a cold gun ? / / |__VAN \/\/ELSH /\ evan@tardis.cs.ed.ac.uk/\ \ \ ================ \/ ecwu86@ercvax.ed.ac.uk \/ Kate Bush. / From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon Jun 18 13:33:10 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA13025; Mon, 18 Jun 90 13:32:25 -0700 Received: from pyrite.SOM.CWRU.Edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA13014; Mon, 18 Jun 90 13:32:20 -0700 Received: by pyrite.SOM.CWRU.Edu (5.61++/SUN-4.0-dc) id AA10019; Mon, 18 Jun 90 16:29:12 -0400 From: Sunil Bhatla Message-Id: <9006182029.AA10019@pyrite.SOM.CWRU.Edu> Subject: Can't find Mary Black's first album To: jitr Date: Mon, 18 Jun 90 16:29:11 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.2 PL14] Status: OR Hi folks! Sorry to take up this much bandwith, but some days ago someone on this mailing list recommended Mary Black's debut album in connection with Sinead singing a ballad much like Anachie Gordon (spelling?). After searching long and hard, I have only been able to find Mary's 1989 album "No Frontiers" (which, BTW, is great!). Could that person or anybody else let us know where the first album might be available? Much thanks. From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Tue Jun 19 08:35:59 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA04789; Tue, 19 Jun 90 08:33:53 -0700 Received: from CORNELLC.CIT.CORNELL.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA04784; Tue, 19 Jun 90 08:33:48 -0700 Message-Id: <9006191533.AA04784@presto.ig.com> Received: from IRLEARN.UCD.IE by CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1MX) with BSMTP id 1347; Tue, 19 Jun 90 11:32:21 EDT Received: from ccvax.ucd.ie by IRLEARN.UCD.IE (Mailer R2.03B) with BSMTP id 8890; Tue, 19 Jun 90 15:52:47 GMT Date: Tue, 19 Jun 90 15:44 GMT From: bjh Subject: Mary Black To: jitr X-Vms-To: IN%"jitr@presto.ig.com" Status: OR If you are unable to purchase a copy of Mary Black's first (untitled) album, which features "Anachie Gordon", then let me know and I can send you a copy. Regards, bjh B_haughey@ccvax.ucd.ie b_haughey@ccvax.bitnet From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Wed Jun 20 07:37:26 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA06650; Wed, 20 Jun 90 07:35:25 -0700 Received: from [130.225.48.4] by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA06646; Wed, 20 Jun 90 07:35:16 -0700 Received: from blue.iesd.auc.dk by iesd.auc.dk via EUnet with SMTP (5.61++/IDA-1.2.8) id AA23489; Wed, 20 Jun 90 16:34:48 +0200 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 90 16:34:48 +0200 From: Liam Peyton Message-Id: <9006201434.AA23489@iesd.auc.dk> To: jitr Subject: Lion and the Cobra lyrics? Status: OR Does anyone have the lyrics on line? If so, could they send me a copy or post it to the mail list. Thanx, ---Liam From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Wed Jun 20 09:14:11 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA09222; Wed, 20 Jun 90 09:13:35 -0700 Received: from PO5.ANDREW.CMU.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA09218; Wed, 20 Jun 90 09:13:27 -0700 Received: by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for jitr@presto.ig.com; Wed, 20 Jun 90 12:15:37 EDT Received: via switchmail; Wed, 20 Jun 90 12:15:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dunningsville.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 20 Jun 90 12:14:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dunningsville.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 20 Jun 1990 12:14:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BatMail.robin.v2.10.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.dunningsville.andrew.cmu.edu.rt.r3 via MS.5.6.dunningsville.andrew.cmu.edu.rt_r3; Wed, 20 Jun 1990 12:14:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Jun 1990 12:14:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "William M. Bumgarner" To: jitr Subject: Sinead Fan Club In-Reply-To: <9006201434.AA23489@iesd.auc.dk> References: <9006201434.AA23489@iesd.auc.dk> Status: OR Is there any sort of official Sinead O'Connor fan club that one can write off to? just curious... b.bumgarner | Disclaimer: All opinions expressed are my own. wb1j+@andrew.cmu.edu | I officially don't represent anyone unless I NeXT Campus Consultant | explicity say I am doing so. So there. "I ride tandem with the random/Things don't run the way I planned them.." From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Wed Jun 20 09:33:25 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA09918; Wed, 20 Jun 90 09:32:57 -0700 Received: from encore.encore.COM by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA09912; Wed, 20 Jun 90 09:32:50 -0700 Received: by encore.encore.com with UUCP (5.61/25-eef) id AA14509; Wed, 20 Jun 90 12:13:18 -0400 Received: by xenna.Xylogics.COM (4.12/4.7_jlv1/7/90) id AA04459; Wed, 20 Jun 90 12:13:01 edt Received: by world.std.com (5.61++/Spike-1.0) id AA05240; Wed, 20 Jun 90 12:08:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 90 12:08:02 -0400 From: eliz@world.std.com (Elizabeth Lear) Message-Id: <9006201608.AA05240@world.std.com> To: jitr Subject: Re: Lion and the Cobra lyrics? Status: OR I guess enough people have come and gone since these last went out that it's worth mailing them again. All lyrics were filled in as best as possible from the CD and the tape of the Boston concert. I've included "Hand That Rocks the Cradle" even though I've got some blank spots in it: help if you can, please! ...eliz JACKIE Jackie left on a cold, dark night telling me he'd be home sailed the seas for a hundred years leaving me all alone and I've been dead for twenty years I've been washing the sand with my ghostly tears searching the shores for my Jackie-oh I remember the day the young man came said, your Jackie's gone, he got lost in the rain and I ran to the beach and laid me down you're all wrong, I said and they stared at the sand that man knows the sea like the back of his hand he'll be back some time laughing at you and I've been waiting all this time for my man to come, take his hand in mine and lead me away to unsailed shores I've been washing the sand with my salty tears searching the shore these long years and I'll walk the sea forever more 'til I find my Jackie-oh JERUSALEM went down and the lady said it got tore down and the priest just said it got burned they give me five years five years it's my turn came down and the lady said it got tore down and the priest just said it got burned they give me five years five years it's my turn Jerusalem Jerusalem gettin' tired of you doing this to me I'm gonna hit you if you say that to me one more time I wanna see you and you're sayin' you're busy wanna stop it and you said it would be easy sure takes time probably next time gonna be the last time oh you don't two-time it'd be the best time never meaning next time short time hope you're doing what you said when you swore you'd make it better live on the letter on time Jerusalem Jerusalem Jerusalem Jerusalem JUST LIKE U SAID IT WOULD B I will walk in the garden and feel religion within I will learn how to run with the big boys I will learn how to sink and to swim and there's talk in the houses and people dancing in rings ah, will you close my eyes, babe? I can see most everything I can see most everything it's just like u said it would b it' just like u said it would b it's just like u said it would b it's just like u said it would b I can see too many miles of them too many eyes closed, it's closed not enough minds open too many legs open tell me tell me tell me tell me, do why listen to it, why why I don't see why I listen why why When I've walked in the garden when I'm walking off stage when everything's quiet will you stay? will you be my lover? will you be my mother? I said will you be my lover? I said will you be my babe? When I lay down my head at the end of my day nothing nothing would please me better than I find that you're there When I lay down my head at the end of my day nothing would nothing would please me better than I find that you're there when I wake just like u said it would b just like u said it would b just like u said it would b just like u said it would b will you be my lover? will you be my lover? just like u said it would b just like u said it would b just like u said it would b just like u said it would b just like u said it would b MANDINKA I'm dancing the seven veils want you to pick up my scarves see how the black moon fades soon I can give you my heart I don't know no shame I think I'm playin' a game see the flame ... idoa Mandinka idoa Mandinka idoa Mandinka idoa Mandinka Ido they're throwing it all this way dragging it back to the start and they say, see how the glass is raised? I have refused to take part I told them drink something new please let me pull something through I don't know no shame I think I'm playin' a game I don't know no shame I think I'm playin' a game see the flame but idoa Mandinka ido Mandinka idoa Mandinka idoa Mandinka ido ido I said ido soon I can give you my heart I swear I do soon I can give you my heart ido Mandinka soon I can give you my heart soon I can give you my heart NEVER GET OLD young woman with a drink in her hand she like to listen to rock and roll she moves with the music 'cuz it never gets old it's the only thing that never gets old young man in a quiet place go a hawk on his arm loves them birds never does no harm it's the only thing that never can do no harm must be the only thing that never can do no harm some say that on the avenue everyone walk by living life undercover being alive being blind TROY I remember it Dublin in a rainstorm sitting in the long grass in summer keeping warm I remember it every restless night we were so young then we thought that everything we could possibly do was right every move stolen from our very eyes I wonder where you went to and tell me when did the light die? you will rise you'll return phoenix from the flame and we will learn and we will rise you'll return being what you are there is no other Troy for you to burn and I never meant to hurt you I swear I didn't mean those things I said I never meant to do that to you next time I'll keep my hands to myself instead oh, and I sure love you what do you want to do? does she need you like I do? do you love her? is she good for you? does she hold you like I do? do you want me? should I leave? I know you're always telling me that you love me but just sometimes I wonder if I should believe oh, I love you God, I love you I'd kill a dragon for you and die but I will rise and I will return the phoenix from the flame I have learned I will rise and you'll see me return being what I am there is no other Troy for me to burn and you should have left the light on you should have left the light on then I wouldn't have tried you'd never have known and I wouldn't have pulled you tighter no, I wouldn't have pulled you close I wouldn't have screamed "no I can't let you go" if the door wasn't closed no, I wouldn't have pulled you to me no, wouldn't have kissed your face you wouldn't have begged me to hold you if we hadn't been there in the first place but I know you wanted me to be there every look that you threw told me so but you should have left the light on you should have left the light on wouldn't have made it burn away but you're still spitting fire make no difference what you say you're still a liar you're still a liar you're still a liar DRINK BEFORE THE WAR well, now you're tellin' us that we're wrong and you tell us not to sing our song nothing we can say will make you see you got a heart of stone you can never feel you say, oh I'm not afraid - it can't happen to me I've lived my life as a good man no you're out of your mind it won't happen to me 'cuz I've carried my weight and I've been a strong man but listen to the man in the liquor stor he yelling, anybody wanna drink before the war? and your parents paid you through you got a nice big car nothin' bothers you somebody cut out your eyes you refuse to see somebody cut out your heart you refuse to feel and you live in a shell you create your own hell you live in the past and talk about war and you dig your own grave but it's a life you can save so start gettin' fast it's not gonna happen and you'll cry but you'll never fall no, no, no you're building a world gotta break it down start again no, no, no - it won't happen to us we've lived our lives basically have been good men so stop talking of war 'cuz you know we're heard it all before why don't you go out there and do something useful but listen to the man in the liquor store he yellin', anybody wanna drink before the war? anybody wanna drink before the war? anybody wanna drink before the war? HNAD THAT ROCKS THE CRADLE please don't cry for the ghost in the storm outside they'll not invade this sacred shrine nor infiltrate your mind my life down I will lie if the bogeyman should try to play tricks on your sacred mind to tease, torment and tantilize waring shadows loom a piano plays in an empty room there'll be blood on the (cleaver) tonight and when darkness lifts and the room is bright I'll still be by your side you'll never need be alone again as long as the hand that rocks the cradle is mine as long as the hand that rocks the cradle is mine seeing shadows shimmy, die and when the wardrobe ...... the sadness in your beautiful eyes your untouched, unspoiled, wondrous eyes my life down I will lie should restless spirits try to play tricks on your sacred mind I once had a child and it saved my life and I never even asked his name I just looked into his wondrous eyes and said never never never again and all too soon I did return just like a moth to a flame so rattle my bones all over the stones because I'm only a beggar and nobody alms see how words rescind I'm here and here I'll stay together together we'll pray yuo'll never need be alone again your eyes as long as the hand that rocks the cradle is mine as long as the hand that rocks the cradle is mine climb upon my sunny bones From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Wed Jun 20 09:54:55 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA10494; Wed, 20 Jun 90 09:54:22 -0700 Received: from mcsun.eu.net by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA10490; Wed, 20 Jun 90 09:54:15 -0700 Received: by mcsun.EU.net via EUnet; Wed, 20 Jun 90 18:54:09 +0200 (MET) Received: from axion.bt.co.uk by kestrel.Ukc.AC.UK via PSS (UKC CAMEL FTP) id aa22343; 20 Jun 90 16:41 BST Received: from kitkat by zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk via SMTP channel id aa03374; 20 Jun 90 10:20 BST To: Liam Peyton Cc: jitr Subject: Re: Lion and the Cobra lyrics? In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 20 Jun 90 16:34:48 +0200. <9006201434.AA23489@iesd.auc.dk> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 90 16:19:11 GMT From: Philip Katz Message-Id: <9006201020.aa03374@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk> Status: OR I got this from rec.music.misc some time ago Philip Article 1698 of rec.music.cd: Path: axion!ukc!mcsun!uunet!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sunybcs!ubvms!v096nm93 From: v096nm93@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (iggi) Newsgroups: rec.music.cd Subject: Sinead lyrics thanks eliz Message-ID: <871.26108e17@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu> Date: 28 Mar 90 15:12:39 GMT Organization: Academic Computing Services, University at Buffalo Lines: 348 Hey folks i received this lyric listing from someone. Thanks eliz@world.std.com so very much for this list you have saved my reputation. Wish i could claim this but.... i bow to my superiors. So for all of you out there that wanted this. Someone tell me how to get into this lyrics server, please. Thanks and ENJOY iggi DRINK BEFORE THE WAR well, now you're tellin' us that we're wrong and you tell us not to sing our song nothing we can say will make you see you got a heart of stone you can never feel you say, oh I'm not afraid - it can't happen to me I've lived my life as a good man no you're out of your mind it won't happen to me 'cuz I've carried my weight and I've been a strong man but listen to the man in the liquor stor he yelling, anybody wanna drink before the war? and your parents paid you through you got a nice big car nothin' bothers you somebody cut out your eyes you refuse to see somebody cut out your heart you refuse to feel and you live in a shell you create your own hell you live in the past and talk about war and you dig your own grave but it's a life you can save so start gettin' fast it's not gonna happen and you'll cry but you'll never fall no, no, no you're building a world gotta break it down start again no, no, no - it won't happen to us we've lived our lives basically have been good men so stop talking of war 'cuz you know we're heard it all before why don't you go out there and do something useful but listen to the man in the liquor store he yellin', anybody wanna drink before the war? anybody wanna drink before the war? anybody wanna drink before the war? JACKIE Jackie left on a cold, dark night telling me he'd be home sailed the seas for a hundred years leaving me all alone and I've been dead for twenty years I've been washing the sand with my ghostly tears searching the shores for my Jackie-oh I remember the day the young man came said, your Jackie's gone, got lost in the rain and I ran to the beach and laid me down you're all wrong, I said and they stared at the sand that man knows the sea like the back of his hand he'll be back some time laughing at you and I've been waiting all this time for my man to come, take his hand in mine and lead me away to swanset shores I've been washing the sand with my salty tears searching the shore these long years and I'll walk the sea forever more 'til I find my Jackie-oh JUST LIKE U SAID IT WOULD B I will walk in the garden and feel religion within I will learn how to run with the big boys I will learn how to sink and to swim and there's talk in the houses and people dancing in rings ah, will you close my eyes, babe? I can see most everything I can see most everything just like u said it would b just like u said it would b it's just like u said it would b it's just like u said it would b I can see too many miles of them too many eyes closed, it's closed not enough minds open too many legs open tell me tell me tell me tell me, do why listen to it, why why I don't see why I listen why why When I've walked in the garden when I'm walking off stage when everything's quiet will you stay? will you be my lover? will you be my mama? I said will you be my lover? I said will you be my babe? When I lay down my head at the end of my day nothing nothing would please me better than I find that you're there When I lay down my head at the end of my day nothing would nothing would please me better than I find that you're there when I wake just like u said it would b just like u said it would b just like u said it would b just like u said it would b will you be my lover? will you be my lover? just like u said it would b just like u said it would b just like u said it would b just like u said it would b just like u said it would b JERUSALEM came down and the lady said it got tore down and the priest just said it got burned they give me five years five years it's my turn came down and the lady said it got tore down and the priest just said it got burned they give me five years five years it's my turn Jerusalem Jerusalem gettin' tired of you doing this to me I'm gonna hit you if you say that to me one more time I wanna see you and you're sayin' you're busy wanna stop it and you said it would be easy sure takes time probably next time aughta be the last time oh you don't two-time it'd be the best time never meaning next time short time hope you're doing what you said when you swore you'd make it better live on the letter on time Jerusalem Jerusalem Jerusalem Jerusalem MANDINKA I'm dancing the seven veils want you to pick up my scarves see how the black moon fades soon I can give you my heart I don't know no shame I think I'm playin' a game see the flame ... but I do know a Mandinka I do know a Mandinka I do know a Mandinka I do they're throwing it all this way dragging it back to the start and they say, see how the glass is raised? I have refused to take part I told them drink something new please let me pull something through I don't know no shame I think I'm playin' a game I don't know no shame I think I'm playin' a game see the flame but I do know a Mandinka I do know a Mandinka I do I do I said I do soon I can give you my heart I swear I do soon I can give you my heart I do Mandinka soon I can give you my heart soon I can give you my heart NEVER GET OLD young woman with a drink in her hand she like to listen to rock and roll 'cuz it never gets old it's the only thing that never gets old young man in a quiet place go hold on his arm lives in there never does no harm it's the only thing that never can do no harm must be the only thing that never can do no harm some say that on the avenue everyone was happy living life on the cover being alive being blind TROY I remember it it happened in a rainstorm sitting in the long grass in summer keeping warm I remember it every restless night we were so young then we thought that everything we could possibly do was right every move stolen from our very eyes I wonder where you went to and tell me when did the light die? you will rise you'll return phoenix from the flame and we will learn and we will rise you'll return being what you are there is no other Troy for you to burn and I never meant to hurt you I swear I didn't mean those things I said I never meant to do that to you next time I'll keep my hands to myself instead oh, and I should love you what do you want to do? does she need you like I do? do you love her? is she good for you? does she hold you like I do? do you want me? should I leave? I know you're always telling me that you love me but just sometimes I wonder if I should believe oh, I love you God, I love you I'd kill a dragon for you and die but I will rise and I will return the phoenix from the flame I have learned I will rise and you'll see me return being what I am there is no other Troy for me to burn and you should have left the light on you should have left the light on then I wouldn't have tried you'd never have known and I wouldn't have pulled you tighter no, I wouldn't have pulled you close I wouldn't have screamed now I can't let you go if the door wasn't closed no, I wouldn't have pulled you to me no, wouldn't have kissed your face you wouldn't have begged me to hold you if we hadn't been there in the first place but I know you wanted me to be there every look that you threw told me so but you should have left the light on you should have left the light on wouldn't have made it burn away but you're still spitting fire make no difference what you say you're still a liar you're still a liar you're still a liar From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Wed Jun 20 21:00:30 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA00517; Wed, 20 Jun 90 20:58:22 -0700 Received: from pyrite.SOM.CWRU.Edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA00513; Wed, 20 Jun 90 20:58:20 -0700 Received: by pyrite.SOM.CWRU.Edu (5.61++/SUN-4.0-dc) id AA05160; Wed, 20 Jun 90 23:55:17 -0400 From: Sunil Bhatla Message-Id: <9006210355.AA05160@pyrite.SOM.CWRU.Edu> Subject: CD booklet offer - Lion & Cobra lyrics To: jitr Date: Wed, 20 Jun 90 23:55:17 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.2 PL14] Status: OR Hi folks! I took the lyrics recently posted by eliz@world.std.com and produced a CD booklet that will fit perfectly inside the existing CD booklet. Now you can have the lyrics and not have to hunt for them too! Set in 7 point Helvetica type and printed in a Laserwrite IINT, you have a choice of white or cream bond paper. Free to all Sinead O'Connor fans! Send me mail with your postal address if you want a copy. Or if you want to do some customizing of your own, I can send you the binhexed file (12K). Disclaimer: These lyrics are not officially sanctioned by Chrysalis Records, but are provided as a free service for the enjoyment of Sinead fans everywhere. Thanks to eliz@world.std.com for providing the lyrics. From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu Jun 21 13:26:45 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA24283; Thu, 21 Jun 90 13:25:33 -0700 Received: from cs.brown.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA24279; Thu, 21 Jun 90 13:25:30 -0700 Received: from anquetil.cs.brown.edu by cs.brown.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA05036; Thu, 21 Jun 90 16:25:23 EDT Date: Thu, 21 Jun 90 16:25:21 EDT From: dkb@cs.brown.edu Message-Id: <9006212025.AA01584@anquetil.cs.brown.edu> To: bhatlas@pyrite.som.cwru.edu Cc: jitr In-Reply-To: Sunil Bhatla's message of Wed, 20 Jun 90 23:55:17 EDT <9006210355.AA05160@pyrite.SOM.CWRU.Edu> Subject: CD booklet offer - Lion & Cobra lyrics Status: OR I'd like a copy! Could you send one cream and one white? Thanks! Dilip Barman dkb@cs.brown.edu U.S. mail: Brown University Home: 19 Elton Street Dept. of Computer Science, Box 1910 Providence, RI 02906 Providence, RI 02912 (401)863-7666 (401)521-9731 P.S. Please use my home address. From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu Jun 21 14:01:29 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA25234; Thu, 21 Jun 90 14:00:44 -0700 Received: from cs.brown.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA25225; Thu, 21 Jun 90 14:00:40 -0700 Received: from anquetil.cs.brown.edu by cs.brown.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA05170; Thu, 21 Jun 90 16:36:45 EDT Date: Thu, 21 Jun 90 16:36:40 EDT From: dkb@cs.brown.edu Message-Id: <9006212036.AA01616@anquetil.cs.brown.edu> To: jitr Subject: CD booklet offer - Lion & Cobra lyrics Status: OR Sorry for that accidental posting when I replied. I have tickets to see Sinead in August at Great Woods. I know song lists have been posted in the past, but I don't remember if the list of songs she plays has "stabilized" or not. Does anybody have such a list that would be a good prediction of the Great Woods show in Boston? From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri Jun 22 22:29:47 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA10973; Fri, 22 Jun 90 22:26:50 -0700 Received: from EDDIE.MIT.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA10969; Fri, 22 Jun 90 22:26:47 -0700 Received: by EDDIE.MIT.EDU (5.61/25-eef) id AA13770; Sat, 23 Jun 90 00:25:42 EST Date: Sat, 23 Jun 90 00:25:42 EST From: Larry DeLuca Message-Id: <9006230525.AA13770@EDDIE.MIT.EDU> To: bhatlas@pyrite.som.cwru.edu, jitr Subject: Re: CD booklet offer - Lion & Cobra lyrics Status: OR I'd love a copy. You can send it to: Larry DeLuca 72 Central St. #2 Somerville, MA 02143 larry... PS: Thanks! From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Sat Jun 23 04:12:29 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA15562; Sat, 23 Jun 90 04:11:41 -0700 Received: from pyrite.SOM.CWRU.Edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA15558; Sat, 23 Jun 90 04:11:37 -0700 Received: by pyrite.SOM.CWRU.Edu (5.61++/SUN-4.0-dc) id AA06313; Sat, 23 Jun 90 07:08:27 -0400 From: Sunil Bhatla Message-Id: <9006231108.AA06313@pyrite.SOM.CWRU.Edu> Subject: Update: Lion&Cobra lyrics CD booklet offer To: jitr Date: Sat, 23 Jun 90 7:08:26 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.2 PL14] Status: OR Hi again, folks: The next time I naively make such an offer, would someone shoot me first? I thought I wouldn't get more than a couple (ok, maybe three) replies. Anyway, I got so many requests that I wanted to let you all know that it'll take a little longer to get the booklet inserts out to you - it takes a while to lease the extra production facilities and raise financing :-) And yes, I will send extra copies to those who requested them on behalf of impoverished Sinead fans not on the mailing list. 'til then, Sunil (bhatlas@pyrite.som.cwru.edu) From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Sat Jun 23 16:52:59 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA24800; Sat, 23 Jun 90 16:52:05 -0700 Received: from EDDIE.MIT.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA24796; Sat, 23 Jun 90 16:52:02 -0700 Received: by EDDIE.MIT.EDU (5.61/25-eef) id AA15869; Sat, 23 Jun 90 18:51:10 EST Date: Sat, 23 Jun 90 18:51:10 EST From: Larry DeLuca Message-Id: <9006232351.AA15869@EDDIE.MIT.EDU> To: bhatlas@pyrite.som.cwru.edu, jitr Subject: Re: Update: Lion&Cobra lyrics CD booklet offer Status: OR I can at least send you money to defray my costs and postage. How much do you want to charge? It seems only fair if you're inundated that we all cough up $2 or so apiece instead of you footing the bill... larry... From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Tue Jun 26 11:30:23 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA01666; Tue, 26 Jun 90 11:24:49 -0700 Received: from mcsun.eu.net by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA01650; Tue, 26 Jun 90 11:24:36 -0700 Received: by mcsun.EU.net via EUnet; Tue, 26 Jun 90 20:24:28 +0200 (MET) Message-Id: <9006261824.AA25397@mcsun.EU.net> Received: from csclna.cs.tcd.ie by kestrel.Ukc.AC.UK with UUCP id aa21469; 26 Jun 90 19:05 BST Received: from swift by csclna.csclna.cs.tcd.ie id aa22804; 26 Jun 90 18:20 BST Date: Tue, 26 Jun 90 18:07 GMT From: "Glynn Anderson WR 14.2.6" Subject: Sinead in Dublin To: jitr X-Vms-To: IN%"jitr@presto.ig.com" Status: OR Evening Herald Tuesday June 26, Dublin. Chart topping rock singer Sinead O'Connor had what she really did not want before her homecoming concert in Dublin tonight. A head cold kept her confined to her bedroom in Jury's Hotel. But her father Mr. John O'Connor said like the Irish football team she would be in spectacular form for the gig at the Point Depot. "I was talking to her on the phone and she was not feeling 100 per cent. She has a bit of a cold. I hope she didn't cheer too much during the match" he said. Mr. O'Connor described a report in a British newspaper today that she had left her drummer husband John Reynolds for a British rock singer as "scurrilous". He said there was "absolutely" no truth in allegations that Sinead had split from her husband. A spokesman for her record company Chrysalis described the report as "absolute rubbish. There is no truth in it at all". According to a British newspaper Dublin-born Sinead(24) was reported to have told friends she wants to set up home with 25-year-old singer Hugh Harris, who supported her on her recent American tour. "Sinead, John and the baby are inseparable," said Mr. O'Connor, who revealed that all three had travelled together on Sinead's recent American tour which saw her album "I Do Not Want What I Have Not Got" and single "Nothing compares 2U" shoot to the top of the American charts. A spokesman for Harris who supported Sinead on the American tour but who will not be supporting her tonight said "Sinead and Hugh have a professional relationship. We cannot comment on anything further". -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm going tonight. I'll report on anything unusual :-) Glynn Anderson Dept. Computer Science Trinity College Dublin 2 Republic of Ireland. From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri Jun 29 09:56:32 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA22477; Fri, 29 Jun 90 09:52:18 -0700 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA22445; Fri, 29 Jun 90 09:51:37 -0700 Received: from E40-008-6.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA14178; Fri, 29 Jun 90 12:51:04 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by E40-008-6.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA16243; Fri, 29 Jun 90 12:50:04 -0400 Message-Id: <9006291650.AA16243@E40-008-6.MIT.EDU> To: jitr Subject: The Emperor's new clothes Date: Fri, 29 Jun 90 12:50:01 EDT Status: OR Hi, I just bought the cassingle. I thought you might like to know that the b-side is unavailable elsewhere and is a very soft and mellow Irish (?) song called 'What do you want?'. Has anybody heard it? What is it about? The song is written by O' Connor, and produced by Mick Glossop. It is however published by a different company than the A-side, and that makes me wonder if it is SINEAD O' Connor or someone else who wrote it. The video for TENC is also out. It's kind of cool, and not as mushy as NC2U. I also heard about her divorce (?) on MTV news a couple of days ago. It'll be interesting to see or rather hear what comes out of this experience in terms of songs... But Hugh Harris??? I thought she had better (musical) taste than that :-) And one more question. Is she touring Europe right now? How is that tour going and is it any different than the first leg of the American tour? That's all for now. Angelos