From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Wed May 2 12:45:17 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA06001; Wed, 2 May 90 12:43:47 -0700 Received: from mcsun.eu.net by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA05997; Wed, 2 May 90 12:43:31 -0700 Received: by mcsun.EU.net via EUnet; Wed, 2 May 90 21:43:19 +0200 (MET) Message-Id: <9005021943.AA14872@mcsun.EU.net> Received: from csclna.cs.tcd.ie by kestrel.Ukc.AC.UK with UUCP id aa19290; 2 May 90 19:58 BST Received: from swift by csclna.csclna.cs.tcd.ie id ab22368; 2 May 90 17:21 BST Date: Wed, 2 May 90 17:06 GMT From: "Glynn Anderson WR 14.2.6" Subject: Sinead a Buddist. To: jitr X-Vms-To: IN%"jitr@presto.ig.com" Status: OR Evening Herald, Dublin, May 2, 1990 ROCK star Sinead O'Connor has become a Buddist, renouncing her Catholic upbringing. She told the Japanese music magazine "Rocking ON" that she had rejected Catholicism since becoming a mother and wife. She had become more understanding and tolerant because of her new religion, she says. "I don't like Catholicism and my marriage and the birth of my son became a turning point - I've learned a lot about myself and my ability to love others through them," she said. From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Wed May 2 13:50:23 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA07813; Wed, 2 May 90 13:50:01 -0700 Received: from eagle.wesleyan.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA07809; Wed, 2 May 90 13:49:57 -0700 Message-Id: <9005022049.AA07809@presto.ig.com> Date: 2-MAY-1990 16:47:18.94 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: A Name for Sinead Fans To: jitr Status: OR Greetings... Well, KaTeFans wouldn't necessarily have a name if she hadn't come out with "Hounds of Love": Love-Hounds is such an awesome term!!! :) JITRs shouldn't even be a consideration here- it sounds stupid when applied to organic objects. How about Troians? Nope- then people will think we worship Marina Sirtis (from Star Trek-The Next Generation, you know). Mandinkans? Black Boys on Mopeds? Sineadians? Lions and Cobras? I think we need to wait until Sinead comes up with a catchy album title that could apply to humans well... ******************************************************************************** Meredith Tarr "Looking for a moment that'll never happen mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu Living in the gap between past and future" Wesleyan University -KaTe Bush ******************************************************************************** From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Wed May 2 14:29:07 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA08720; Wed, 2 May 90 14:28:59 -0700 Received: from maxine.WPI.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA08716; Wed, 2 May 90 14:28:56 -0700 Received: by maxine.wpi.edu (5.61/4.7) id AA11916; Wed, 2 May 90 17:30:47 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 May 90 17:30:47 -0400 From: roy@maxine.wpi.edu (Roy Rubinstein) Message-Id: <9005022130.AA11916@maxine.wpi.edu> To: jitr Subject: Sinead concert broadcast Status: OR Some good news for JITR's (and others) in the Boston area: I heard on WBCN (104.1) that tomorrow (Thursday) night they will be broadcasting a tape of Sinead's 1988 Boston show. (I think she did two, one at the Paradise, which I saw, and then another at Axis. They didn't say which one it is, but I think it is the Paradise show.) This broadcast will be at 11pm, so most people at the show should be able to get home to tape it in time. Of course I live way the hell out in Worcester, so I won't be home in time, but I should be able to rig up a timer... (Note: Please don't flame me as a WBCN listener, because I'm usually not, except for special things like the Lost Lennon Tapes. I just happened on this announcement as I was going through radio stations in my car and I stopped on WBCN because they were playing a Sinead song. Why can't WFNX increase their power so that it can be picked up in Worcester?) Roy no .sig here! From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Wed May 2 17:34:30 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA03412; Wed, 2 May 90 17:32:33 -0700 Received: from ames.arc.nasa.gov by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA03406; Wed, 2 May 90 17:32:28 -0700 Received: by ames.arc.nasa.gov (5.61/1.2); Wed, 2 May 90 17:32:18 -0700 Received: by pyramid.pyramid.com (5.61/OSx5.0-890710) id AA08265; Wed, 2 May 90 16:17:03 -0700 Received: by ttidca.TTI.COM (5.61-bind 1.5+ida/IDA-1.2.8) id AA05028; Wed, 2 May 90 15:20:41 -0700 Date: Wed, 2 May 90 15:20:41 -0700 From: Terence Davis Message-Id: <9005022220.AA05028@ttidca.TTI.COM> To: jitr Subject: Our Name Status: OR How about "The War Mongers" after my favorite SO song: Drink Before The War. From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Wed May 2 19:59:42 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA08459; Wed, 2 May 90 19:59:30 -0700 Received: from barad-dur.endor.cs.psu.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA08454; Wed, 2 May 90 19:59:27 -0700 Received: by barad-dur.endor.cs.psu.edu id 7238; Wed, 2 May 90 22:57:33 EDT From: "Patrick A. Troy" To: jitr Subject: Re: Our Name Message-Id: <90May2.225733edt.7238@barad-dur.endor.cs.psu.edu> Date: Wed, 2 May 90 22:57:24 EDT Status: OR Personally, I think "Lions and Cobras" is the best that has been suggested so far. Pat From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Wed May 2 20:56:31 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA10107; Wed, 2 May 90 20:56:24 -0700 Received: from maxine.WPI.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA10099; Wed, 2 May 90 20:56:21 -0700 Received: by maxine.wpi.edu (5.61/4.7) id AA31562; Wed, 2 May 90 23:57:50 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 May 90 23:57:50 -0400 From: roy@maxine.wpi.edu (Roy Rubinstein) Message-Id: <9005030357.AA31562@maxine.wpi.edu> To: jitr Subject: Re^2: Our Name Status: OR I kind of like "River Jumpers". From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Wed May 2 21:12:37 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA10339; Wed, 2 May 90 21:12:32 -0700 Received: from bunny.gte.com by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA10335; Wed, 2 May 90 21:12:28 -0700 Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.12) id AA04886; Thu, 3 May 90 00:12:20 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 May 90 00:12:20 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9005030412.AA04886@bunny.gte.com> To: jitr Subject: Names Status: OR I could live with River Jumpers. Beats the JITRs. (Though JITRs DOES have a certain edgy charm to it...) How about Mandikoids? ;-] -greg From sco!tracyr@ucscc.ucsc.edu Thu May 3 14:12:19 1990 Received: from ucscc.UCSC.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA00646; Thu, 3 May 90 14:12:13 -0700 Received: by ucscc.UCSC.EDU (5.61/1.35) id AA22983; Thu, 3 May 90 12:41:34 -0700 From: sco!tracyr@ucscc.ucsc.edu Message-Id: <9005031941.AA22983@ucscc.UCSC.EDU> To: jitr-request Subject: A Name for Sinead Fans Date: Thu May 3 12:33:24 1990 Status: OR >I think we need to wait until Sinead comes up with a catchy album title that >could apply to humans well... > Yea, what Meredith said. Let's wait a bit for the perfect name to evolve. tracy uunet!sco!tracyr, tracyr@sco.com From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu May 3 16:28:33 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA06392; Thu, 3 May 90 16:26:54 -0700 Received: from uunet.UU.NET by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA06382; Thu, 3 May 90 16:26:49 -0700 Received: from wri.UUCP by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP id AA20522; Thu, 3 May 90 17:59:24 -0400 Received: by WRI.com (3.2/SMI-3.0DEV3) id AA27136; Thu, 3 May 90 14:44:53 CDT Date: Thu, 3 May 90 14:44:53 CDT From: wri!sueann@uunet.uu.net (Sue Ann Kendall) Message-Id: <9005031944.AA27136@WRI.com> To: jitr, MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Re: A Name for Sinead Fans Status: OR Meredith Tarr suggested this: Mandinkans? Black Boys on Mopeds? Sineadians? Lions and Cobras? I'd hesitated to mention this before because I haven't been able to look it up, but I am pretty sure that Mandinka is a Bantu language and the name of an ethnic group in Africa. I think the name for "Mandinkans" is really "Mandinka". So that name might not be the best. And while I am being a linguist--is "Buddhist" spelled "Buddist" in Ireland and the British Isles?? ------------------------------------------------------------------- Sue Ann Kendall sueann@wri.com Wolfram Research, Champaign, IL Nothing I say is of any interest to anyone where I work, has anything to do with my job, or is echoed by those I work with. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu May 3 16:50:01 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA08278; Thu, 3 May 90 16:49:27 -0700 Received: from ducvax.auburn.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA08268; Thu, 3 May 90 16:49:21 -0700 Message-Id: <9005032349.AA08268@presto.ig.com> Date: Thu, 3 May 90 09:29 CDT From: DMONEY@ducvax.auburn.edu Subject: Sinead in Atlanta (Great Show!, brief review) To: JITR X-Vms-To: IN%"JITR@PRESTO.IG.COM" Status: OR I saw Sinead at the Fabulous Fox Theatre on Tuesday night. What a fantastic show! Quickly, she sang every song off of her two albums, EXCEPT: Just Like U Said It Would B Never Gets(?) Old Drink Before the War Just Call Me Joe I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got (Sorry if some of the titles aren't correct; I don't have my CD's with me.) I really missed "Just Like U Said It Would B" and "Drink Before the War;" I even heard girls outside of the Fox after the show singing, "I will learn how to run with the big boys," so I guess I wasn't alone. She opened with "Feel So Different," and encored with "Troy" (Yes!!!). She played over half of her songs on acoustic guitar alone (even "Troy"), and featured a full band on the others. A projector would show different pictures (the statues in the "Nothing Compares 2 U" video) during the concert, or else shadows of Sinead and her band would flash behind her. For "Stretched on Your Grave," she brought out a huge tape player for accompaniment. At the end of the song, she danced a jig. Sinead's voice was magnificent, going from low ("You're all wrong, I said") to high ("Jackie-O") with seemingly little effort. Unfortunately, her microphone cut out on her high notes four or five times during the show, usually for only a couple of seconds. Sinead seemed pleased when, during a mic failure in "Jackie-O," the audience picked up the song. But, after the third failure-during JITR-she turned her back to the audience and looked to the band. The drummer (her husband?) nodded at her and smiled, and she turned back to finish the song. It was a beautiful show, and Sinead spoke to the audience a few times-"If you'd like to leave your seats and stand, please do. That would make me much more comfortable." And, when she returned for "Troy" to a standing ovation, she smiled brightly and appeared to be truly flattered, almost embarrassed. -Dean- From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri May 4 05:14:58 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA26950; Fri, 4 May 90 05:13:32 -0700 Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA26946; Fri, 4 May 90 05:13:29 -0700 Message-Id: <9005041213.AA26946@presto.ig.com> Received: from UKACRL.BITNET by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.2MX) with BSMTP id 9435; Fri, 04 May 90 07:56:01 EDT Received: from RL.IB by UKACRL.BITNET (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 0570; Fri, 04 May 90 11:29:59 BST Received: from RL.IB by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 6857; Fri, 04 May 90 11:29:59 BS Via: UK.AC.BANGOR.VAXB; 4 MAY 90 11:29:56 BST Date: Fri, 4 May 90 11:30 GMT From: The Fluffy Yog To: JITR Subject: Budd(h)ism Status: OR Sue Ann Kendall asks whether "Buddhist" is spelt "Buddist" in Ireland and the British Isles (point of info - Ireland is part of the British Isles, just not part of Britain. Now aren't you sorry you asked?). No, it isn't. We may be backward but we're not entirely illiterate. Not yet... :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------ ** a F L U F F Y Y O G p r o d u c t i o n ** ** coming to you from Sunny Bangor: map009@uk.ac.bangor.vaxa ** ** economy-sized version: flufiyog@uk.ac.ed.cs.tardis ** ------------------------------------------------------------------ ** I am a great disappointment to myself. ** ---------------------------------- unidentified heroin addict ---- From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri May 4 06:38:55 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA27938; Fri, 4 May 90 06:38:39 -0700 Received: from ducvax.auburn.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA27934; Fri, 4 May 90 06:38:36 -0700 Message-Id: <9005041338.AA27934@presto.ig.com> Date: Fri, 4 May 90 08:41 CDT From: DMONEY@ducvax.auburn.edu Subject: Sinead in Atlanta (extra notes) To: jitr X-Vms-To: IN%"jitr@presto.ig.com" Status: OR Oh yeah, I forgot to mention a couple of things about the concert: 1) Instead of repeating "You're still a liar" at the end of "Troy", she SPOKE, angrily, "You're still a fucking liar," just once. 2) The concert T-shirts really sucked, IMHO. A white shirt with "I do not want what I haven't got." scrawled in Sinead's handwriting on an irregular arc across the front (in small letters, a bronze or dirty gold color) and a small blue bird (dove I think, more like an ink blotch, solid) on the back. There were also black sweatshirts featuring the same design. Twenty dollars for the T-shirts, thirty for the sweats. The price, though steep, was not the issue. I really wanted to get a concert shirt, but couldn't bring myself to paying for something I could have made myself with a Hanes and a couple of permanent markers. No pictures, names, cities, or dates on the shirt-nothing to distinguish it as a "concert tour T-shirt." -Dean- From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri May 4 08:14:16 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA29995; Fri, 4 May 90 08:13:51 -0700 Received: from att-in.att.com by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA29991; Fri, 4 May 90 08:13:47 -0700 From: ohm!boyle!eob@pruxk.att.com Received: from boyle.att.com by ohm.att.com (3.2/SMI-3.2) id AA00378; Fri, 4 May 90 10:56:19 EDT Received: by boyle.att.com (3.2/SMI-3.2) id AA13703; Fri, 4 May 90 10:56:17 EDT Date: Fri, 4 May 90 10:56:17 EDT Original-From: ohm!boyle!eob (Eamonn O'Brien) Message-Id: <9005041456.AA13703@boyle.att.com> To: jitr Subject: "British" Isles & Spelling (was Re: Budd(h)ism) Content-Type: text Content-Length: 738 Status: OR From: The Fluffy Yog (point of info - Ireland is part of the British Isles, just not part of Britain.). Actually this is a point of contention. Many Irish people, myself included, prefer the term "Great Britain and Ireland" or something similar to describe the two islands. [is Buddhism spelt Buddism?] No, it isn't. We may be backward but we're not entirely illiterate. Not yet... :-) Words that are transliterated from a language that uses a different alphabet (Sanskrit in this case) often have variant spelling. I would say that this was a valid question for an American to ask, considering how much standard British spelling differs from standard American. Eamonn eob@ohm.att.com ~~~~~~ From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri May 4 09:36:00 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA02476; Fri, 4 May 90 09:35:37 -0700 Received: from BU.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA02457; Fri, 4 May 90 09:35:27 -0700 Received: by BU.EDU (1.97) Fri, 4 May 90 12:35:19 EDT Received: by xenna.Xylogics.COM (4.12/4.7_jlv1/7/90) id AA21939; Fri, 4 May 90 12:31:21 edt Received: by world.std.com (5.61++/Spike-1.0) id AA07848; Fri, 4 May 90 10:25:26 -0400 Date: Fri, 4 May 90 10:25:26 -0400 From: eliz@world.std.com (Elizabeth Lear) Message-Id: <9005041425.AA07848@world.std.com> To: jitr Subject: Re: A Name for Sinead Fans Status: OR To: jitr Subject: Sinead on Boston radio Status: OR Thanks for the bulletin about her concert being rebroadcast on WBCN (never would have known, since when I do listen to radio it's only WFNX) - I've caught some new lyrics, and I'll send out changes to the ones that went out before. ...eliz From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri May 4 10:19:37 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA04009; Fri, 4 May 90 10:19:19 -0700 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA04001; Fri, 4 May 90 10:19:13 -0700 Received: from E40-008-11.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA05751; Fri, 4 May 90 13:19:06 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by E40-008-11.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA05162; Fri, 4 May 90 13:19:02 -0400 Message-Id: <9005041719.AA05162@E40-008-11.MIT.EDU> To: jitr Subject: SOC at the Orpheum, May 3, 1990. Date: Fri, 04 May 90 13:19:01 EDT Status: OR Sometimes it pays to give it a shot...Although I didn't have tickets for the show, I decided to go and see if anyone had any unwanted tix for sale. I found lots...Only most of them were from scalpers who wanted $50...BUT, there was this girl who asked for $23.50... There was a description of her concert in Atlanta, and I believe that what was said was accurate. To me the highlights of the show were 'The last day of our acquaintance', where she sang a verse that is not on the album in the part of the song where the whole band kicks in and most definitely 'I am stretched on your grave'. Her dance at the fiddle part was just amazing. But I think that "Jackie" sounded better in her last tour when she used an electric guitar. Most of the tension and anxiety in this song was lost by the soft sound of the acoustic version. "Nothing compares 2 U" was done very well, "Black Boys on Mopeds" was the song that shut up some people who had to scream after every line Sinead sang managing to drown out the next line of the song. The audience was absolutely quiet during this one, and gave it the warmest applause of the night. Some details: ------------ i) She sang 'did it so hard' on JITR. ii) She wore a hooded gypsy-like bright red dress and after "Feel so different" took off the hood, to wild applause. iii) She was barefoot. iv) She didn't introduce the band. CONCLUSION: Great show! I would have appreciated hearing 'Just like U said it would B'... GO! Even if you don't have tix. It's worth the effort. PS. Sinead will be appearing on the May 12 show of Saturday Night Live, according to some neon green stickers that were distributed before the show. So tune in then... PS2. For Boston fans...In the WBCN broadcast (I taped it this time), she played a song that isn't anywhere...Is it the Smiths' "the hand that rocks the craddle" or some other song with a similar title? Angelos From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri May 4 10:53:58 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA05402; Fri, 4 May 90 10:53:50 -0700 Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA05398; Fri, 4 May 90 10:53:44 -0700 Message-Id: <9005041753.AA05398@presto.ig.com> Received: from UKACRL.BITNET by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.2MX) with BSMTP id 4313; Fri, 04 May 90 13:51:47 EDT Received: from RL.IB by UKACRL.BITNET (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 9795; Fri, 04 May 90 17:51:19 BST Received: from RL.IB by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 8146; Fri, 04 May 90 17:50:26 BS Via: UK.AC.BANGOR.VAXB; 4 MAY 90 17:48:47 BST Date: Fri, 4 May 90 17:49 GMT From: The Fluffy Yog To: JITR Subject: more irrelevancy... Status: OR Eamonn - I too prefer the term Great Britain and Ireland to refer to the two islands, but I also love being pedantic. Buddhism is, I'm pretty sure, a fairly standard spelling but hey, I wouldn't deny that it was a valid question... Well, that had damn-all to do with Sinead O'Connor... ... out of curiosity, are the running orders on the American and British releases of The Lion And The Cobra the same? The impression I get from odd references is that they are, but someone posted a lyric set a while back that was in the "wrong" order (for me), and since they changed the cover photo I began to wonder. The UK running order is Jackie, Mandinka, Jerusalem, Just Like..., Never Get Old // Troy, I Want Your..., Drink Before The War, Just Call Me Joe. the fluffy yog, desperately trying to make the message seem relevant... ------------------------------------------------------------------ ** a F L U F F Y Y O G p r o d u c t i o n ** ** coming to you from Sunny Bangor: map009@uk.ac.bangor.vaxa ** ** economy-sized version: flufiyog@uk.ac.ed.cs.tardis ** ------------------------------------------------------------------ ** I am a great disappointment to myself. ** ---------------------------------- unidentified heroin addict ---- From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri May 4 10:55:51 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA05420; Fri, 4 May 90 10:55:00 -0700 Received: from ducvax.auburn.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA05415; Fri, 4 May 90 10:54:55 -0700 Message-Id: <9005041754.AA05415@presto.ig.com> Date: Fri, 4 May 90 12:59 CDT From: DMONEY@ducvax.auburn.edu Subject: More notes on the SOC Tour To: jitr X-Vms-To: IN%"jitr@presto.ig.com" Status: OR : Some details: : ------------ : i) She sang 'did it so hard' on JITR. I Didn't notice that in the Atlanta show. By the way, was the Atlanta show the first date on the U.S. Tour? : ii) She wore a hooded gypsy-like bright red dress and after "Feel so : different" took off the hood, to wild applause. Sounds like the same dress. : iii) She was barefoot. : iv) She didn't introduce the band. Again, the same was true in Atlanta. Some other questions, and observations: 1) Some guy named Hugh Harris opened for her. Sort of a funk/reggae/Lenny Kravitz type music. 2) Rap music was played before the opening act took stage, and between acts. 3) At one point, Sinead began playing the acoustic guitar, and went into "The Last Day of Our Acquaintance." Sinead walked in a circle while playing. But then the band kicked in and they played "I Want Your (Hands on Me)" instead. She later played "The Last Day..." and began with the same circle walk. Does she/the band do this in other shows, or was it a mistake? 4) She alternated her music so that she used the acoustic in about every other song. So after almost every song, she would quickly run to the side stage and grab or return her guitar. Couldn't she have someone bring the guitar out to her, or have had a guitar stand a little closer to the stage front? 5) When is she coming back??!!! -Dean- From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri May 4 13:31:15 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA10114; Fri, 4 May 90 13:30:40 -0700 Received: from uunet.UU.NET by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA10106; Fri, 4 May 90 13:30:35 -0700 Received: from wri.UUCP by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP id AA22936; Fri, 4 May 90 11:21:17 -0400 From: wri!sueann@uunet.uu.net Received: by WRI.com (3.2/SMI-3.0DEV3) id AA09589; Fri, 4 May 90 10:18:49 CDT Message-Id: <9005041518.AA09589@WRI.com> Date: Fri, 4 May 90 10:18:44 CDT To: JITR, MAP009@vaxb.bangor.ac.uk Subject: Re: Budd(h)ism Status: OR I am highly amused that you pinpoint Ireland in the British Isles. I will forward your mail to my Irish spouse, who becomes most irate when anyone claims that Ireland is in the British Isles. I've stopped arguing with him on it, but will tell him that the Fluffy Yog disagrees. Is there any other real live Irish person on the mailing list who will confirm that the Irish disclaim the (sorta obvious to me) fact that the British Isles do contain Ireland? I guess it's all political. And now for more on Mandinka. I finally was able to run a search of a large database (ERIC) for the term, and found that my memory was correect-- Mandinka is an African language and cultural group. It is spoken by many many people in West Africe--for example, Senegal and Ghana. It is the same as "Mandingo", with minor sound change. It's the group that Kunta Kinte in "Roots" belonged to. Linguists (like me) say that the major language family is "Mandekan" and its dialects are Bambara, Dyula, and Mandinka-Mandinka. Most people in the region where Mandinka is spoken also speak French. I hope this solves the controversy. If we called ourselves Mandinkans, then, people from West African would be trying to talk to us, and we'd probably be confused. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sue Ann Kendall Wolfram Research, Inc. sueann@wri.com Nope, nobody cares what I say where I work. But what I say reflects on them not one whit. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri May 4 16:12:00 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA15168; Fri, 4 May 90 16:11:38 -0700 Received: from att-in.att.com by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA15164; Fri, 4 May 90 16:11:35 -0700 From: ohm!boyle!eob@pruxk.att.com Received: from boyle.att.com by ohm.att.com (3.2/SMI-3.2) id AA01349; Fri, 4 May 90 18:05:11 EDT Received: by boyle.att.com (3.2/SMI-3.2) id AA14115; Fri, 4 May 90 18:05:06 EDT Date: Fri, 4 May 90 18:05:06 EDT Original-From: ohm!boyle!eob (Eamonn O'Brien) Message-Id: <9005042205.AA14115@boyle.att.com> To: jitr Subject: Re: more irrelevancy... (in defense of The Fluffy Yog) Content-Type: text Content-Length: 489 Status: OR Sue Ann made a slight slip and referred to "Ireland and the British Isles". Mr/Ms Yog noticed the mistake and pointed out that "Ireland is part of the British Isles". Both Sue Ann and myself pounced on this assertion and The Yog's subsequent reply showed that what he/she really meant to say was "Ireland is part of the *so-called* British Isles" -- which is true. Clear? Ah well, it's a good thing we're all friends here. Sinead? Oh yea. She's cool. Eamonn eob@ohm.att.com ~~~~~~ From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Sat May 5 06:17:48 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA01407; Sat, 5 May 90 06:17:21 -0700 Received: from prodigal.psych.rochester.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA01403; Sat, 5 May 90 06:17:17 -0700 Received: by prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (4.1/1.12) id AA11838; Sat, 5 May 90 09:18:14 EDT Date: Sat, 5 May 90 09:18:14 EDT From: Boris "Lindsay" Goldowsky Message-Id: <9005051318.AA11838@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu> To: JITR In-Reply-To: <9005041518.AA09589@WRI.com> Subject: Re: names Status: OR Oh dear, this is all getting awfully complex. Why not just call us Joe? Bng From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Sun May 6 06:14:13 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA20370; Sun, 6 May 90 06:13:34 -0700 Received: from ames.arc.nasa.gov by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA20368; Sun, 6 May 90 06:13:32 -0700 Received: by ames.arc.nasa.gov (5.61/1.2); Sun, 6 May 90 06:10:20 -0700 Posted-Date: Sat, 05 May 90 22:29:01 PST Received: from uunet.UU.NET by cs.utexas.edu (5.61/1.60) id AA16336; Sun, 6 May 90 07:32:59 -0500 Received: from nwnexus.UUCP by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP id AA24214; Sun, 6 May 90 08:32:53 -0400 Received: by nwnexus.WA.COM (5.52.1/smail2.5/10-31-88) id AA02488; Sat, 5 May 90 22:41:45 PDT Received: by sensual.wa.com (UUPC/pcmail 1.0095) with UUCP; Sat, 05 May 90 22:29:01 PST Date: Sat, 05 May 90 22:29:01 PST From: Steve Schonberger Message-Id: <2643c42d@sensual.wa.com> X-Mailer: UUPC/mail 1.095 To: jitr Subject: a couple of replies... Status: OR > From: uunet!athena.mit.edu!kyrlidis > Date: Fri, 04 May 90 13:19:01 EDT > Subject: SOC at the Orpheum, May 3, 1990. This isn't a particularly informative subject (neither is mine), since many cities have places called "Orpheum" -- you went to the one in Boston, and I've been to the ones in Minneapolis (where I saw Edie Brickell), in Omaha (for a ballet), and there's probably one here in Seattle too. > ...Although I didn't have tickets > ...Only most of them were from scalpers who wanted $50...BUT, > there was this girl who asked for $23.50... Gee, when I saw her in Minneapolis, at Seventh Avenue, I was able to get tickets at a record store in Saint Paul for face price ($7.50) the night before the show. Thanks to someone in Love-Hounds who posted a concert schedule that reached me the night before the show > There was a description of her concert in Atlanta, and I believe that > what was said was accurate. That was very different from the show I saw in Minneapolis, which makes sense, since I saw her there on her last tour. I posted a review of it to Love-Hounds way back then, which I'll post if I can find a copy of it. > i) She sang 'did it so hard' on JITR. Back then, she said "fucked so hard" on JITR. It appears she has toned down that line permanantly, for the sake of prudish American audiences. > ii) She wore a hooded gypsy-like bright red dress and after "Feel so Back then, she wore simple jeans and I think a plain t-shirt. She was stick thin. > iv) She didn't introduce the band. She did introduce her band way back when. > PS2. For Boston fans...In the WBCN broadcast (I taped it this time), she > played a song that isn't anywhere...Is it the Smiths' "the hand that rocks the > craddle" or some other song with a similar title? She played "The Hand that Rocks the Cradle" on her last tour, her only cover. At least one of her band members when I saw her had been one of the Smiths. > Date: Fri, 4 May 90 17:49 GMT > From: The Fluffy Yog > Subject: more irrelevancy... > > Eamonn - I too prefer the term Great Britain and Ireland to > refer to the two islands, but I also love being pedantic. Geographically they're the British Isles, but politically they're separate. Since most people are more politically than geographically aware, naming them separately is probably a better idea. > Buddhism is, I'm pretty sure, a fairly standard spelling but Since English is the most commonly known language (it's a second language for almost everyone) in India, where there are a lot of Buddhists, there should be a standard spelling. A dictionary I looked at approved of "Buddhism". How did that topic come up on this list? >From "Black Boys on Mopeds" perhaps? > ... out of curiosity, are the running orders on the American and > British releases of The Lion And The Cobra the same? The order you listed for the U.K. release is the same as on my U.S. copy. You mention a different cover. What is the U.K. cover like? -- Steve Schonberger Why should I disclaim anything when I own this site? steve@sensual.wa.com (Yet another site named after a Kate Bush song) I should be mapped. If mail bounces, try "nwnexus!sensual!steve" instead. From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Sun May 6 10:20:40 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA22970; Sun, 6 May 90 10:20:08 -0700 Received: from paris.ics.uci.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA22961; Sun, 6 May 90 10:20:06 -0700 Received: from news.ics.uci.edu by PARIS.ICS.UCI.EDU id aa12784; 6 May 90 10:18 PDT From: Mark Nagel Subject: Saturday Night Live Lines: 8 Date: 6 May 90 17:18:20 GMT Newsgroups: fa.jitr To: moderator:;@paris.ics.uci.edu Message-Id: <9005061018.aa12784@PARIS.ICS.UCI.EDU> Status: OR Just in case no one's yet aware of it, Sinead will be appearing on Saturday Night Live next weekend... -- Mark Nagel UC Irvine Department of ICS +----------------------------------------+ ARPA: nagel@ics.uci.edu | The world is coming to an end. | UUCP: ucbvax!ucivax!nagel | Please log off. | From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Sun May 6 21:24:06 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA03051; Sun, 6 May 90 21:23:34 -0700 Received: from ducvax.auburn.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA03045; Sun, 6 May 90 21:23:31 -0700 Message-Id: <9005070423.AA03045@presto.ig.com> Date: Sun, 6 May 90 23:27 CDT From: DMONEY@ducvax.auburn.edu Subject: re: a couple of replies... To: jitr X-Vms-To: IN%"jitr@presto.ig.com" Status: OR : Gee, when I saw her in Minneapolis, at Seventh Avenue... : : Steve... I heard that Prince was at that show, but I thought the place was called "First Avenue." I could be wrong. -Dean- From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon May 7 09:21:12 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA16461; Mon, 7 May 90 09:18:50 -0700 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA16457; Mon, 7 May 90 09:18:46 -0700 Received: from RCA2.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA10497; Mon, 7 May 90 12:18:41 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by RCA2.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA07105; Mon, 7 May 90 12:18:37 -0400 Message-Id: <9005071618.AA07105@RCA2.MIT.EDU> To: jitr Subject: Various non-album Sinead songs Date: Mon, 07 May 90 12:18:32 EDT Status: OR I read the Spin interview the other day and it mentioned a few songs where she participated that I haven't heard, like: ** Some stuff by In Tua Nua, an irish band. ** "Heroine" by Sinead and The Edge. Does anybody know what they are like? Is it worth it to try and find them? In case you didn't know she has also done two other songs that don't appear in her albums: 1) Someday my prince will come- From "Stay Awake". 2) Kingdom of Rain- Duet with Matt Johnson of The The, from "Mind Bomb". Kingdom of Rain must be one of the most beautiful songs of 1989!! And one more quick question. I read somewhere about the film "Hush a bye baby" where she plays a catholic nun. The article mentioned that she had written the soundtrack for the movie. Does anybody know if this is true and if it has been released anywhere??? Bye for now, Angelos From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon May 7 09:49:28 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA17329; Mon, 7 May 90 09:45:59 -0700 Received: from porthos.rutgers.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA17322; Mon, 7 May 90 09:45:51 -0700 Received: by porthos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.3/3.05) id AA17963; Mon, 7 May 90 12:45:45 EDT Date: Mon, 7 May 90 12:45:44 EDT From: jessica To: jitr Subject: non-album sinead songs Message-Id: Status: OR the songs sinead did with the Edge were for the film "captive" I haven't seen it or heard the songs, but I hear that they are very good, good enough to get. jessica ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Oh WOW! thought I'd be outta here by now. --Concrete Blonde | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon May 7 09:56:02 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA17581; Mon, 7 May 90 09:52:42 -0700 Received: from bunny.gte.com by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA17577; Mon, 7 May 90 09:52:38 -0700 Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.12) id AA20581; Mon, 7 May 90 12:52:19 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 May 90 12:52:19 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9005071652.AA20581@bunny.gte.com> To: jitr Subject: Re: Various non-album Sinead songs Status: OR kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu (Angelos) asks about: > Some stuff by In Tua Nua, an irish band. > ** "Heroine" by Sinead and The Edge. > > Does anybody know what they are like? Is it worth it to try and find them? I definitely recommend tracking down anything by In Tua Nua. The only american releases I know of are a Irish-aid album that also had songs by the Pogues, Van Morrison, Boomtown Rats, etc (I've forgotten its name -- for that matter, I've forgotten exactly what cause it was aiding) ANYWAY, ITN had one song on that; their American 'debut' album is called _The Long Acre_ and is very good (maybe a little slick for my tastes). I'm at work, so I can't check, but I'm pretty certain that Sinead is NOT on that album -- if anyone else knows more (like, what other Irish releases ITN has, and if Ms. O'Connor appears on any of those), let us know!! The Sinead/Edge collaboration is from the soundtrack to the movie "Captive". Sadly, Sinead only appears on the one song, and to be honest its not any overwhelming performance. The rest of the album features instrumental music by the Edge and Michael Brooks (a Brian Eno collaborator) -- I paid about $5 for my copy, I wouldn't pay much more. Footah! -greg From sco!tracyr@ucscc.ucsc.edu Mon May 7 11:32:36 1990 Received: from ucscc.UCSC.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA20968; Mon, 7 May 90 11:32:32 -0700 Received: by ucscc.UCSC.EDU (5.61/1.35) id AA05807; Mon, 7 May 90 11:34:43 -0700 From: sco!tracyr@ucscc.ucsc.edu Message-Id: <9005071834.AA05807@ucscc.UCSC.EDU> To: jitr-request Subject: Re: Budd(h)ism Date: Mon May 7 11:05:38 1990 Status: OR >I am highly amused that you pinpoint Ireland in the British Isles. I >will forward your mail to my Irish spouse, who becomes most irate when >anyone claims that Ireland is in the British Isles. I've stopped >arguing with him on it, but will tell him that the Fluffy Yog disagrees. >Is there any other real live Irish person on the mailing list who will >confirm that the Irish disclaim the (sorta obvious to me) fact that >the British Isles do contain Ireland? I guess it's all political. Here's what I was taught... British Isles: England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland (north and south) United Kingdom: England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland Britain: England, Wales, Scotland Tracy uunet!sco!tracyr, tracyr@sco.com From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon May 7 14:05:54 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA25615; Mon, 7 May 90 14:05:26 -0700 Received: from jade.Berkeley.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA25591; Mon, 7 May 90 14:04:36 -0700 Received: from radon.Berkeley.EDU by jade.berkeley.edu (5.61.1/1.16.25) id AA26162; Mon, 7 May 90 14:01:37 PDT Received: from localhost by radon.berkeley.edu.XMicroSuns (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA27046; Mon, 7 May 90 14:04:22 PDT Message-Id: <9005072104.AA27046@radon.berkeley.edu.XMicroSuns> To: jitr Subject: Re: Various non-album Sinead songs In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 7 May 90 12:52:19 -0400 <9005071652.AA20581@bunny.gte.com> Date: Mon, 07 May 90 14:04:21 -0700 From: mudie@radon.berkeley.edu Status: OR >From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) >> ** "Heroine" by Sinead and The Edge. >The Sinead/Edge collaboration is from the soundtrack to the movie "Captive"... >I paid about $5 for my copy, I wouldn't pay much more. Actually, "Captive" is one of my more favorite albums for playing while relaxing and/or setting up an ambience. Lots of quiet atmosphere, some Will-Ackerman-esque guitar work, and quite listenable. (As opposed to the ambient music you're not supposed to hear.) The movie is a *real* dog, though. I found it under "Drama" at my local video store, but based on the acting I suggested they move it to "Comedy". Plus, they sped up all the music. -D- From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon May 7 18:48:41 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA07420; Mon, 7 May 90 18:47:39 -0700 Received: from silver.ucs.indiana.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA07415; Mon, 7 May 90 18:47:35 -0700 Message-Id: <9005080147.AA07415@presto.ig.com> Received: by silver.ucs.indiana.edu (5.61+/9.2jsm) id AA09859; Mon, 7 May 90 20:47:31 -0500 Date: Mon, 7 May 90 20:47:31 -0500 From: Elisabeth Freeman To: jump-in-the-river Subject: article in Pulse Status: OR I picked up the May Pulse magazine at Tower Records this weekend and it has a good article on Sinead. Some interesting little tidbits that I didn't know about are a movie called Husha-A-Bye Baby for which she did all the music and out of which comes "Three Babies". Also, she's real tired of the Press! More later, my power's going off any second.... Beth From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Tue May 8 10:48:40 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA28747; Tue, 8 May 90 10:46:37 -0700 Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA28742; Tue, 8 May 90 10:46:31 -0700 Message-Id: <9005081746.AA28742@presto.ig.com> Received: from UKACRL.BITNET by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.2MX) with BSMTP id 9880; Tue, 08 May 90 13:45:19 EDT Received: from RL.IB by UKACRL.BITNET (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 4378; Tue, 08 May 90 16:05:44 BST Received: from RL.IB by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer R2.03B) with BSMTP id 5278; Tue, 08 May 90 16:04:44 BST Via: UK.AC.BANGOR.VAXB; 8 MAY 90 16:02:24 BST Date: Tue, 8 May 90 16:03 GMT From: The Fluffy Yog To: JITR Subject: In Tua Nua Status: OR They've done two albums: "Vaudeville", which is excellent, and "The Long Acre", which I haven't bothered to hear because the bits I have heard didn't appeal. If you can find "Vaudeville" in the U.S., it's worth checking out, especially "Valuable Lessons", "Love" and "No Solution". And no, Sinead O'Connor doesn't appear on it either. Another non-album Sinead song is, ahem, "Stick Your Tongue In My Hole", which can be found on some bootlegs. Don't ask me, I just work here. I think "Vaudeville" is on Virgin Records over here, further info on request. the fluffy yog ------------------------------------------------------------------ ** a F L U F F Y Y O G p r o d u c t i o n ** ** coming to you from Sunny Bangor: map009@uk.ac.bangor.vaxa ** ** economy-sized version: flufiyog@uk.ac.ed.cs.tardis ** ------------------------------------------------------------------ ** I am a great disappointment to myself. ** ---------------------------------- unidentified heroin addict ---- From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Wed May 9 20:24:58 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA22503; Wed, 9 May 90 20:24:18 -0700 Received: from wucs1.wustl.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA22465; Wed, 9 May 90 20:24:11 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from cec2.wustl.edu by wucs1.wustl.edu (5.59/1.35); id AA07201; Wed, 9 May 90 22:23:41 CDT Received: by cec2.wustl.edu (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA09609; Wed, 9 May 90 22:23:41 CDT Date: Wed, 9 May 90 22:23:41 CDT From: rjk5984@cec2.wustl.edu (Robert Joseph Kollmeyer) Message-Id: <9005100323.AA09609@cec2.wustl.edu> To: jitr Subject: Sinead cancels SNL show in protest. Status: OR Well, it seems some people just never learn their lesson. SNL producers have allowed Andrew Dice Clay to be the guest host on this weekend's show. Due to his less-than-honorable routine on MTV last year (and his subsequent ban from that particular network) in which he (on a live show) went into a vulgar un-humorous routine, there will be a 7 second delay in the broadcast of the show to try to prevent a reoccurance of the MTV debacle. In protest, Sinead canceled her scheduled performance stating roughly that "she cannot sing a song about women after his (Clay's) performance." BTW all this obtained from a 30 second clip on the local evening news. Perhaps she should fly to St.Louis and do a concert here instead. Just a thought. 8-) Bob Kollmeyer rjk5984@cec2.wustl.edu Washington University From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu May 10 06:09:55 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA03142; Thu, 10 May 90 06:08:35 -0700 Received: from SYSTEMSX-GW.CS.YALE.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA03138; Thu, 10 May 90 06:08:31 -0700 Received: by SUNNY.SYSTEMSX.CS.YALE.EDU; Thu, 10 May 90 09:04:02 EDT Date: Thu, 10 May 90 09:04:02 EDT From: Joe Rodrigue Message-Id: <9005101304.AA15733@SUNNY.SYSTEMSX.CS.YALE.EDU> Received: by yale-sun-sunny (diamond) via WIMP-MAIL (Version 1.3/1.7) ; Thu May 10 09:04:51 To: rjk5984@cec2.wustl.edu Cc: jitr In-Reply-To: Robert Joseph Kollmeyer's message of Wed, 9 May 90 22:23:41 CDT <9005100323.AA09609@cec2.wustl.edu> Subject: Sinead cancels SNL show in protest. Status: OR > SNL producers have allowed Andrew Dice Clay to be the guest host on this > weekend's show. Due to his less-than-honorable routine on MTV last year > (and his subsequent ban from that particular network) in which he (on a live > show) went into a vulgar un-humorous routine, there will be a 7 second delay > in the broadcast of the show to try to prevent a reoccurance of the MTV > debacle. > In protest, Sinead canceled her scheduled performance [...] What did Clay say in his routine? Why does everybody hate this guy so much? From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu May 10 07:21:29 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA04345; Thu, 10 May 90 07:18:46 -0700 Received: from rpi.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA04341; Thu, 10 May 90 07:18:39 -0700 Received: from pawl.rpi.edu (imagine.pawl.rpi.edu) by rpi.edu (4.1/SM45-RPI-ITS); id AA15527; Thu, 10 May 90 10:17:14 EDT for jitr@presto.ig.com Received: from sub.pawl.rpi.edu (pawl1.pawl.rpi.edu) by pawl.rpi.edu (4.1/HUB10); id AA09570; Thu, 10 May 90 10:15:12 EDT for jitr@presto.ig.com From: Kevin J Martin Received: by sub.pawl.rpi.edu (4.1/PSUB09); id AA00806; Thu, 10 May 90 10:14:35 EDT for jitr@presto.ig.com Date: Thu, 10 May 90 10:14:35 EDT Message-Id: <9005101414.AA00806@sub.pawl.rpi.edu> To: jitr Subject: Sinead cancels SNL show in protest. Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY Cc: Status: OR >> In protest, Sinead canceled her scheduled performance [...] >What did Clay say in his routine? Why does everybody hate this guy so much? Clay has to be the biggest bigot in the public eye today. I don't know what he said or did on any shows, because I avoid him like the plague after hearing part of his album from a "friend." It's not that he's a disgusting, wormy sort of guy - that we could get used to. It's the cheap, stolen jokes, especially the ones about "niggers" and "blowjobs from bitches" that really give people the idea that... maybe he isn't too level-headed of a fellow. Avoid him like the plague; he is. -- Kevin Martin ||| sigma@pawl.rpi.edu ||| usergkj1@RPITSMTS.BITNET "Is there so much hate for the ones we love? Tell me we both matter, don't we? You, you and me won't be unhappy" - K.Bush From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu May 10 07:23:27 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA04375; Thu, 10 May 90 07:21:13 -0700 Received: from BU.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA04371; Thu, 10 May 90 07:21:10 -0700 Received: by BU.EDU (1.98) Thu, 10 May 90 10:21:05 EDT Received: by xenna.Xylogics.COM (4.12/4.7_jlv1/7/90) id AA13299; Thu, 10 May 90 10:22:35 edt Received: by world.std.com (5.61++/Spike-1.0) id AA00470; Thu, 10 May 90 10:03:56 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 May 90 10:03:56 -0400 From: eliz@world.std.com (Elizabeth Lear) Message-Id: <9005101403.AA00470@world.std.com> To: jitr Subject: Re: Sinead cancels SNL show in protest. Status: OR < In protest, Sinead canceled her scheduled performance stating roughly Message-Id: <264922ab@sensual.wa.com> X-Mailer: UUPC/mail 1.095 To: jitr Subject: re: a couple of replies... Status: OR I miswrote: : Gee, when I saw her in Minneapolis, at Seventh Avenue... uunet!ducvax.auburn.edu!DMONEY corrected: > I heard that Prince was at that show, but I thought the place > was called "First Avenue." I could be wrong. Dean is right, the place is First Avenue. Seventh is the cross street. They even have another club, attached to the main club, called Seventh Street Entry, there to confuse me. Oops. I looked around for Prince there, since he's reputed to be there quite often and is pretty famous in Minneapolis, but I didn't see him there. (I even looked around a little, until Sinead came on, drawing my attention from all else.) I'd be surprised if he wasn't at the show though, because she respects him enough to cover (and improve) one of his songs. A friendly reception, including attending her show, would be something that could partly explain her respect for him. Does anyone have an alternative explanation for why she might have covered Prince? The Fluffy Yog admitted: > Another non-album Sinead song is, ahem, "Stick Your Tongue In > My Hole", which can be found on some bootlegs. Don't ask me, > I just work here. I don't know the actual title of this gem, but she did sing a song including those lyrics in Minnesota during her last tour. Doug Alan or Jon Drukman mentioned the same song in a review of that tour's Boston show, so it wasn't unique to the Minnesota show. Assuming it was taped at a show, does anyone know when and where it was taped? (Or what other origin it might have had?) 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I miswrote: : Gee, when I saw her in Minneapolis, at Seventh Avenue... uunet!ducvax.auburn.edu!DMONEY corrected: > I heard that Prince was at that show, but I thought the place > was called "First Avenue." I could be wrong. Dean is right, the place is First Avenue. Seventh is the cross street. They even have another club, attached to the main club, called Seventh Street Entry, there to confuse me. Oops. I looked around for Prince there, since he's reputed to be there quite often and is pretty famous in Minneapolis, but I didn't see him there. (I even looked around a little, until Sinead came on, drawing my attention from all else.) I'd be surprised if he wasn't at the show though, because she respects him enough to cover (and improve) one of his songs. A friendly reception, including attending her show, would be something that could partly explain her respect for him. Does anyone have an alternative explanation for why she might have covered Prince? The Fluffy Yog admitted: > Another non-album Sinead song is, ahem, "Stick Your Tongue In > My Hole", which can be found on some bootlegs. Don't ask me, > I just work here. I don't know the actual title of this gem, but she did sing a song including those lyrics in Minnesota during her last tour. Doug Alan or Jon Drukman mentioned the same song in a review of that tour's Boston show, so it wasn't unique to the Minnesota show. Assuming it was taped at a show, does anyone know when and where it was taped? (Or what other origin it might have had?) Steve -- Steve Schonberger Why should I disclaim anything when I own this site? steve@sensual.wa.com (Yet another site named after a Kate Bush song) From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu May 10 11:52:46 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA12132; Thu, 10 May 90 11:52:33 -0700 Received: from planchet.rutgers.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA12128; Thu, 10 May 90 11:52:27 -0700 Received: by planchet.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.3/3.05) id AA04101; Thu, 10 May 90 14:54:28 EDT Date: Thu, 10 May 90 14:54:25 EDT From: jessica To: jitr Cc: jaborska@hardees.rutgers.edu, aash@s.ms.uky.edu, chad@csd4.csd.uwm.edu, sajones@carina.unm.edu, cashman@lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu Subject: Sinead in New York Message-Id: Status: OR Sinead performed at the Beacon Theatre in New York last night. (And we were there!! :) The Beacon Theatre is quite a nice place to see a show. It looks like the lower balcony seats are by far the best in the house, though because it is a relatively small theatre, any seat at all is not bad. We speak from absolute experience because our seats were in the very second to last row in the upper balcony and they were somewhat over to the right. The view was quite good though - we could see everything, the angle wasn't bad, and we weren't _that_ far away. (not like seeing someone at Giant Stadium at all) I didn't quite catch the name of the opening band. I assume it is the (I can't seem to find the articles that were sent documenting other recent shows. I thought I had saved at least one, could someone please mail one to me, if anyone has it? I'd very much appreciate it.) the same band that has been opening for her so far on this tour. They didn't have the sound mixed very well, so the drums were a bit too loud and the vocals weren't nearly loud enough, so we couldn't under- stand a word that was said or sung. However, they could have been worse. In particular, I thought their second to last song was rather good. There was over 30 minutes between the opening band and Sinead's performace. We were getting restless. But finally the curtain opened: Sinead was in front center of course, the band was set back, as in the other shows. Drums in the center, a keyboardist on either side, and a guitarist in front of each keyboardist. She was wearing black pants, a black bikers jacket, and a black cap. As in the other shows that have been mentioned here, she started with "Feel So Different" She stood relatively still but used a lot of hand movement. Someone had mentioned that they thought she was directing the sound people. That's _possible_, but I tried to watch carefully, I tihnk she has a basic instinct to direct the band, and she is half doing that and half just doing something expressive with her hands. Also, she didn't do it throughout the entire show, as someone said about another show. The lighting was very pretty - there was a huge screen hung behind the band, and three tall thin screens hung on either side. The colors and patterns and movement of the lights always complemented the music well. In the middle of "Feel So Different", she threw the black cap to the ground, exposing her head. She looked quite wonderful, I wish we could have been closer. Before the next song, she went offstage to get her guitar, and took off the leather jacket. She was wearing a white and black bustier with tiny straps. She did "The Emporer's New Clothes" and jumped around the stage quite a bit during this one. Then she did "I Want Your Hands On Me". She ran her hands up and down and all over her body quite a bit - it was quite sensual. Fourth was "You Cause As Much Sorrow". Fifth: "Three Babies" Sixth: "Black Boys on Mopeds" I liked all three of those better live than I had from the album. I think they were a little stronger live. Then she did "Jackie". Only her and her acoustic guitar, unlike the album, and it was quite good. Eighth she did "Stretched on Your Grave". She had this one on tape, like at the other concerts. It was strange at first, but since the band was not ever the focus of attention anyway, and Sinead was obviously very comfortable with the tape, it quickly became comfortable for me too, and she performed it wonderfully. Ninth was "The Last Day of Our Aquaintance" Tenth: "Nothing Compares 2 U" Eleventh: "Jump in the River" She had pictures on the screen behind her during this one, but there is a rack of lights above the stage, and (this was the only problem caused by our location) it was very hard to tell what they were of. She sang "did it so hard". Twelvth was "Jerusalem" and this was very impressive. So much energy and very powerful. There was at least one picture with this song. Thirteenth and last was "Mandinka". Strong but not as great as "Jerusalem", I felt. She did "Troy" for the encore. Wow. So she did everything from the new album except "I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got". And from the first album, she did all but "Just Like U Said it would B", "Never Get Old". "Drink Before the War", and "Just Call Me Joe". I wish she had done "Just like U Said it would B", in fact I tihnk she ought to have done that song and one the others as a second encore. But I'm not complaining, it was definitely an amazing performance. Now, if we could just get Kate to tour!!!!!! jessica ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Oh WOW! thought I'd be outta here by now. --Concrete Blonde | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu May 10 12:15:40 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA12886; Thu, 10 May 90 12:15:28 -0700 Received: from planchet.rutgers.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA12880; Thu, 10 May 90 12:15:24 -0700 Received: by planchet.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.3/3.05) id AA04308; Thu, 10 May 90 15:17:15 EDT Date: Thu, 10 May 90 15:17:12 EDT From: jessica To: jitr Cc: jaborska@hardees.rutgers.edu, aash@s.ms.uky.edu, chad@csd4.csd.uwm.edu, sajones@carina.unm.edu, cashman@lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu Subject: oops! re: sinead in new york Message-Id: Status: OR I forgot to say, that at the end of Troy, she did not repeat "you're still a liar, you're still a liar". She simply said "You're still a fucking liar". jessica ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Oh WOW! thought I'd be outta here by now. --Concrete Blonde | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu May 10 12:37:47 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA13455; Thu, 10 May 90 12:37:02 -0700 Received: from CORNELLC.CIT.CORNELL.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA13439; Thu, 10 May 90 12:36:45 -0700 Message-Id: <9005101936.AA13439@presto.ig.com> Received: from UKACRL.BITNET by CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1MX) with BSMTP id 0963; Thu, 10 May 90 15:34:53 EDT Received: from RL.IB by UKACRL.BITNET (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 0605; Thu, 10 May 90 18:53:27 BST Received: from RL.IB by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 0166; Thu, 10 May 90 18:53:26 BS Via: UK.AC.BANGOR.VAXB; 10 MAY 90 18:53:24 BST Date: Thu, 10 May 90 18:54 GMT From: The Fluffy Yog To: JITR Subject: Stick Your Tongue In My Hole (no, not you, Mr. Schonberger :-)) Status: OR The bootleg that I have with this song on it is from 1988, and is of the Pink Pop Festival in Utrecht, Holland. (At least I think it's Holland - hey, I'm British, I have a tradition of insularity to keep up :-)) I *think* that's right - trouble is, that tape has two shows on it and offhand I can't be sure which it was. Or it might have been on the other tape I have, which is of a London show (also '88). Sorry - I can't be more helpful. I don't know anything about the song, like whether it's hers or somebody else's or what. I would guess that like "I Am Stretched On Your Grave" it was one of the earlier post-Lion&Cobra songs to come out. Has anybody seen the video which came out I think last year - the live show that included four or five L&C tracks plus one other which might have been I Am Stretched..., I can't remember? I saw a fairly uncomplimentary review in Q magazine, but haven't seen the video myself - I'm not even sure if it's still available. Is there to be a follow-up single to Nothing Compares...? I haven't heard anything about one, but that doesn't prove much (you don't hear much about *anything* bar Manchester bands from the British music papers nowadays...). the fluffy yog ------------------------------------------------------------------ ** a F L U F F Y Y O G p r o d u c t i o n ** ** coming to you from Sunny Bangor: map009@uk.ac.bangor.vaxa ** ** economy-sized version: flufiyog@uk.ac.ed.cs.tardis ** ------------------------------------------------------------------ ** I am a great disappointment to myself. ** ---------------------------------- unidentified heroin addict ---- From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu May 10 15:19:28 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA18587; Thu, 10 May 90 15:19:10 -0700 Received: from planchet.rutgers.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA18579; Thu, 10 May 90 15:19:03 -0700 Received: by planchet.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.3/3.05) id AA04887; Thu, 10 May 90 18:21:08 EDT Date: Thu, 10 May 90 18:21:07 EDT From: jessica To: jitr Subject: second single. Message-Id: Status: OR the second single is definitely "Emporers New Clothes". I heard it announced as such on WNEW (102.7 FM in new york city) the other day. jessica ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Oh WOW! thought I'd be outta here by now. --Concrete Blonde | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri May 11 02:17:14 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA02137; Fri, 11 May 90 02:16:32 -0700 Received: from CORNELLC.CIT.CORNELL.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA02133; Fri, 11 May 90 02:16:26 -0700 Message-Id: <9005110916.AA02133@presto.ig.com> Received: from IRLEARN.UCD.IE by CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1MX) with BSMTP id 3397; Fri, 11 May 90 05:15:07 EDT Received: from ccvax.ucd.ie by IRLEARN.UCD.IE (Mailer R2.03B) with BSMTP id 1898; Fri, 11 May 90 09:52:26 GMT Date: Thu, 10 May 90 18:19 GMT From: Turkish Press Office Subject: In Tua Nua To: jitr X-Vms-To: IN%"jitr@presto.ig.com" Status: OR A brief snippet I saw in the paper here last night - Leslie Dowdall, lead singer with In Tua Nua, has reportedly left the group to pursue a solo career. Obviously the future of In Tua Nua will now be in doubt. -- Bjh, University College Dublin, Ireland. From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Sun May 13 13:50:49 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA22267; Sun, 13 May 90 13:50:12 -0700 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA22261; Sun, 13 May 90 13:50:08 -0700 Received: from RCA2.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA02986; Sun, 13 May 90 15:31:56 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by RCA2.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA02821; Sun, 13 May 90 15:31:47 -0400 Message-Id: <9005131931.AA02821@RCA2.MIT.EDU> To: jitr Subject: SOC NOT on SNL Date: Sun, 13 May 90 15:31:45 EDT Status: OR Hi, Just for the record, Mr Clay referred to Sinead, as "that cute bald chick", on yesterday's show. No wonder she didn't appear, although maybe it would have been better if she DID appear, and made a statement before she sang (In my opinion). Angelos From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Wed May 16 15:17:47 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA07724; Wed, 16 May 90 15:16:17 -0700 Received: from gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA07720; Wed, 16 May 90 15:16:07 -0700 Received: by gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca with UUCP id 64134; Wed, 16 May 90 18:10:48 EDT Received: by trigraph.UUCP (5.51/smail2.5/1989-05-19/jjc) id AA28407; Wed, 16 May 90 13:54:38 EDT Date: Wed, 16 May 90 13:54:38 EDT From: trigraph!john@utcs.toronto.edu (John Chew) Message-Id: <9005161754.AA28407@trigraph.UUCP> To: Justin Bur , jitr Subject: Concert Report: Toronto 15 May 1990 Status: OR Hi. I just subscribed to this mailing list and am about to break one of the cardinal rules of netiquette by posting before waiting the customary month to observe the nature and tone of the list, but I went to see Sinead O'Connor in concert last night, and I'd like to get a brief review down while my ears are still ringing. The concert was at Massey Hall here in Toronto (... Ontario, Canada), an aging 96 year old concert hall with a seating capacity of about 2750 in the heart of the downtown. She was here for one performance only, and lining up a month ago at 6:30 on a cold winter morning for tickets that went on sale at 10:00 was good enough to get me and two friends floor-level seats that were waaay off to the left, with a view of the stage that included a tower of speakers and not much else. Then again, the people who had slept in until 6:45 were out of luck when the tickets sold out at 10:40. What I'm trying to say is that the 2750 people at Massey Hall last night were Sinead O'Connor's 2750 most dedicated fans in Southern Ontario, and it showed. The curtains opened and everyone in the front few rows made a dash for the stage, and after a few futile minutes the vastly outnumbered security people politely edged their way out of the crowd. Sinead was standing there at centre stage, dressed all in white, a hooded white jacket over a white bodysuit, bare feet, and was embarrassed beyond words at the cheering that wouldn't stop for minutes. She bashfully covered her mouth with her hand, said "Thank you very much," then turned around to her band and mouthed "I don't know what to say!" Finally she opened the concert with "Feel So Different" above the crowds cheers, and then continued with "The Emperor's New Clothes", and (I don't have a copy of "The Lion and The Cobra" at work, so I'm not sure of the titles of the songs from that album) "(I want your) Hands on Me", which drove the audience into a complete frenzy. The only bad thing about seeing her in concert is that I just can't bring myself to listen to her albums -- they're great but she is just so much better live that it almost spoils her recorded work. She continued with "Three Babies", but with an additional verse at the end that I hadn't heard before: "Oh it's lonely/Yes it's lonely/Oh it's lonely" repeated once. Then came "Black Boys on Mopeds" (can someone tell me what "madame george and roses" refers to?) and "Jackie" and "I Am Stretched on Your Grave". At this point the mob was completely hysterical and wouldn't stop cheering to let her continue. She waited for a few minutes, said "Thank you very much", then a few minutes later "I don't know what to say..." and then "This is a special song for all the women here" to introduce "The Last Day of Our Acquaintance", which she sang with several extra lines in the middle that I'm afraid I was too enraptured to remember. By the way, I don't mean to sound too Fannish by reporting every phrase she said between songs -- it's just that she was so shy on stage that even if I write every phrase she spoke, it won't add up to a paragraph. The keyboardist started the opening chord to "Nothing Compares 2 U" and then had to hold it for a few minutes until it could be heard again. They followed it up with three of her louder songs, "Jump in the River" (whee), "Jerusalem" and "Mandinka" before leaving the stage. After, you guessed it, another few minutes of deafening applause from the crowd, she came back on stage by herself and sang "Troy" for us, ending it with a shouted "You're still a f**king liar!" that still rings in my ears. Then the house lights came up and we all stood dazed before wandering out into the street. I really do like her albums, but they sound so sedate and carefully produced next to the raw emotion of her live appearances. Sigh... Does anyone have a copy of her current tour schedule? I know her only other Canadian appearance is supposed to be on 7 June in Vancouver, but I'd be interested to hear of other dates, especially those in Europe if any. John -- john j. chew, iii phone: +1 416 425 3818 AppleLink: CDA0329 trigraph, inc., toronto, canada {uunet!utai!utcsri,utgpu,utzoo}!trigraph!john dept. of math., u. of toronto poslfit@{utorgpu.bitnet,gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca} From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Wed May 16 17:17:52 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA11234; Wed, 16 May 90 17:17:32 -0700 Received: from silver.ucs.indiana.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA11230; Wed, 16 May 90 17:17:29 -0700 Message-Id: <9005170017.AA11230@presto.ig.com> Received: by silver.ucs.indiana.edu (5.61+/9.2jsm) id AA29485; Wed, 16 May 90 19:17:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 May 90 19:17:24 -0500 From: Elisabeth Freeman To: jump-in-the-river Subject: dates in D.C. area Status: OR Will Sinead be in the D.C. area this summer (ie Virginia, Maryland or Penn., or of course D.C.)? After seeing everyone's reviews of her concert, I just have to see her live! Does anyone know if any video's or concert footage is out on Laser Disk or CDV yet? Beth From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu May 17 09:21:20 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA09009; Thu, 17 May 90 09:20:56 -0700 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA09004; Thu, 17 May 90 09:20:50 -0700 Received: from RCA2.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA06066; Thu, 17 May 90 12:20:44 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by RCA2.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA08145; Thu, 17 May 90 12:20:28 -0400 Message-Id: <9005171620.AA08145@RCA2.MIT.EDU> To: jitr Subject: Emperor's new clothes Date: Thu, 17 May 90 12:20:25 EDT Status: OR Hi, I was wondering if "the Emperor's New Clothes" has been officially released as a single. If it has been, does anybody know what the flipside is, if it is the album mix, or any other interesting stuff like the cover etc? How is it charting? (as if it makes any difference...) Has a video clip for it been made? Has it been shown on MTV? What's it like? Sorry for the barrage of questions, but I'm just curious. Any info will be appreciated. Angelos ================================================================== Quote of the Day +-----------------------------------------------+ | "Oh Mom, I wonder when I'll be waking | | It's just that there's so much to do | | And I'm tired of sleeping..." | | - Suzanne Vega | +-----------------------------------------------+ ================================================================== From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri May 18 08:47:33 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA16692; Fri, 18 May 90 08:46:39 -0700 Received: from CORNELLC.CIT.CORNELL.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA16682; Fri, 18 May 90 08:46:32 -0700 Message-Id: <9005181546.AA16682@presto.ig.com> Received: from MSUPA.BITNET by CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1MX) with BSMTP id 9578; Fri, 18 May 90 11:45:38 EDT Date: Fri, 18 May 90 11:45 EST From: Subject: Sinead at Michigan State To: jitr X-Original-To: jitr@presto.ig.com, MCINTYRE Status: OR Sinead played at Michigan State May 16. Unfortunately the crowd was there to worship rather than listen, and the soft songs were frequently punctuated with audience whoops. At one point, someone in the crowd loudly yelled "Why don't you shut up and listen?" Except for the crowd noises, the show went as others have described, at least up until the encore. She came out carrying her guitar and at least three guys jumped on stage and rushed her. (It was a little difficult distinguishing between the rushers and the security people who came to her rescue.) As one fan approached her, she shook her finger in his face, which dissauded him from coming any closer. She told the crowd "As a human being that really freaks me out." She then took off her guitar, asked the crowd for silence, and sang an acepella version of "I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got". I fear the crowd noises will only get worse as record sales and venue sizes increase. Her music works much better with a respectful audience. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Dept Michigan State University From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri May 18 15:38:12 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA28538; Fri, 18 May 90 15:33:04 -0700 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA28531; Fri, 18 May 90 15:32:49 -0700 Received: from E40-008-5.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA16327; Fri, 18 May 90 18:32:43 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by E40-008-5.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA10916; Fri, 18 May 90 18:32:40 -0400 Message-Id: <9005182232.AA10916@E40-008-5.MIT.EDU> To: jitr Subject: Sinead at Great Woods Date: Fri, 18 May 90 18:32:39 EDT Status: OR According to the Boston Phoenix Sinead will be playing at Great Woods on August 14,15. Tix for the second show go on sale this Saturday. The opening act this time will be World Party. According to Rolling Stone their new album 'Goodbye Jumbo' is excellent, and features vocals by Sinead. I saw their gig last night on Letterman, and their song "Way down now" kind of reminds me of "Sympathy for the Devil" near the end (the ooh-ooh part). Can someone review this album, and give more info about Sinead's contribution? Thanks, Angelos From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon May 21 01:34:53 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA10574; Mon, 21 May 90 01:33:00 -0700 Received: from ames.arc.nasa.gov by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA10572; Mon, 21 May 90 01:32:59 -0700 Received: by ames.arc.nasa.gov (5.61/1.2); Mon, 21 May 90 01:32:34 -0700 Posted-Date: Mon, 21 May 90 00:23:50 PST Received: from uunet.UU.NET by cs.utexas.edu (5.61/1.62) id AA22715; Mon, 21 May 90 03:24:02 -0500 Received: from nwnexus.UUCP by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP id AA28880; Mon, 21 May 90 04:23:55 -0400 Received: by nwnexus.WA.COM (5.52.1/smail2.5/10-31-88) id AA10425; Mon, 21 May 90 00:39:56 PDT Received: by sensual.wa.com (UUPC/pcmail 1.0095) with UUCP; Mon, 21 May 90 00:23:50 PST Date: Mon, 21 May 90 00:23:50 PST From: Steve Schonberger Message-Id: <2657a596@sensual.wa.com> X-Mailer: UUPC/mail 1.095 To: jitr Subject: Seattle show Status: OR Sinead O'Connor is playing in Seattle on 6 June. Unfortunately, the show is being promoted by an icky station I don't normally listen to. I didn't know about the show until I called the station that I would have expected to do her show (98.9), and they told me about the other station promoting it. I called them and got the date. But by that time tickets were all sold out. Grrr! Any Seattle folks want to go anyway and see if we can get tickets from scalpers? Hard to say what they'll be charging... Steve -- Steve Schonberger Why should I disclaim anything when I own this site? steve@sensual.wa.com (Yet another site named after a Kate Bush song) From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon May 21 11:36:50 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA21494; Mon, 21 May 90 11:35:20 -0700 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA21184; Mon, 21 May 90 11:27:18 -0700 Resent-Message-Id: <9005211827.AA21184@presto.ig.com> Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 90 11:27:15 -0800 Resent-From: mcb@presto.ig.com (Michael C. Berch) Subject: Fw: Re: Welcomre to JUMP IN THE RIVER Resent-To: jitr Received: from nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA12143; Mon, 21 May 90 03:52:16 -0700 Received: from sun.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by vax.NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK via Janet with NIFTP id aa11721; 21 May 90 11:25 BST Received: from ll2vax by servax0.sx.ac.uk SMTP/TCP id aa11892; 21 May 90 11:10 WET DST From: Way A Date: Mon, 21 May 90 11:10:32 -0100 Message-Id: <7962.9005211010@ll2vax.essex.ac.uk> To: mcb Subject: Re: Welcomre to JUMP IN THE RIVER Status: OR This posting will hopefully be of interest, principally coz it involves a new Sinead song ! As you all know, people are constantly trying to raise other persons' awareness of AIDS and are constantly stressing that safety is everything. Anyway, as recording artists have such great sway over their (mainly) young audiences, the medium of music is a great way of spreading the gospel. A new album will be released soon (not sure when, but it's been recorded already) with different stars' interpretations of Cole Porter songs, and as you've probably guessed already Sinead's doing a song backed by orchestra. Saw it on TV last night, and it sounded good (she looked good too in a bright green hooded dress). Other artists on the concept include the Thompson Twins and Aztec Camera (possibly Bono too, but I'm not sure of that), so look out for this. I assume all royalties will go to AIDS foundations like the Terrence Higgins Trust here in the UK. Andy. From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon May 21 14:20:43 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA26560; Mon, 21 May 90 14:18:00 -0700 Received: from mcsun.eu.net by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA26552; Mon, 21 May 90 14:17:54 -0700 Received: by mcsun.EU.net via EUnet; Mon, 21 May 90 23:17:47 +0200 (MET) Message-Id: <9005212117.AA23658@mcsun.EU.net> Received: from csclna.cs.tcd.ie by kestrel.Ukc.AC.UK with UUCP id aa05882; 21 May 90 13:58 BST Received: from swift by csclna.csclna.cs.tcd.ie id aa10048; 21 May 90 13:51 BST Date: Mon, 21 May 90 13:38 GMT From: "Glynn Anderson WR 14.2.6" Subject: Troy To: jitr X-Vms-To: IN%"jitr@presto.ig.com" Status: OR Why should I blame her that she filled my days With misery, or that she would of late Have taught to ignorant men most violent ways, Or hurled the little streets upon the great, Had they but courage equal to desire ? What could have made her peaceful with a mind That nobleness made simple as a fire, With beauty like a tightened bow, a kind That is not natural in an age like this, Being high and solitary and most stern ? Why, what could she have done, being what she is ? Was there another Troy for her to burn ? 'No Second Troy' W.B. Yeats I can't remember if this was posted before. Apologies if it was. If anybody's interested I'll offer my small knowledge of what it's about. Glynn Anderson Dept. Computer Science Trinity College Dublin 2 Republic of Ireland From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon May 21 14:56:23 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA27677; Mon, 21 May 90 14:55:55 -0700 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA27380; Mon, 21 May 90 14:46:40 -0700 Message-Id: <9005212146.AA27380@presto.ig.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 90 14:46:36 -0800 From: mcb@presto.ig.com (Michael C. Berch) Subject: MXM cover of "Nothing Compares 2 U" To: jitr Status: OR So, is the new cover of "Nothing Compares 2 U" getting much airplay in places other than the Bay Area? It's by an Italian band variously referred to as "MXM" or "Maximum" (I haven't seen the record itself anywhere). It features a singer who sounds a little like Sinead on diet pills (or maybe helium) and a synthetic backing beat complete with piano riffs. Live 105 (KITS-FM, San Francisco) has been playing it a couple times daily for the last few weeks, and for the first few times it was good for a double-take until you realized that it wasn't Sinead. (At first I thought it might have been the original version by Prince's "Family" band.) -- Michael C. Berch mcb@presto.ig.com / uunet!presto.ig.com!mcb / ames!bionet!mcb From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Mon May 21 17:46:50 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA02687; Mon, 21 May 90 17:44:50 -0700 Received: from spot.Colorado.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA02683; Mon, 21 May 90 17:44:46 -0700 Received: by spot.Colorado.EDU (5.57/CU-CNS2.4-C) id AA11603; Mon, 21 May 90 18:44:43 MDT Received: by tramp.Colorado.EDU (5.61/CU-CNS2.4-C) id AA06794; Mon, 21 May 90 18:44:36 -0600 Date: Mon, 21 May 90 18:44:36 -0600 From: huntert@tramp.colorado.edu (Tim Hunter) Message-Id: <9005220044.AA06794@tramp.Colorado.EDU> To: jitr Subject: Shows... Status: OR Sinead is playing in Denver twice this summer: once on June 11 at the Paramount (sold out long ago... my sister got scalped tickets, for about $25, though she doesn't know how much they originally cost.... I still need one, if anyone out there has one.) and again at Red Rocks, though the date is unannounced. What are the tickets going for? -------------- Tim Hunter University of Colorado, Boulder huntert@tramp.Colorado.EDU 'I really don't like lobster!' From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Wed May 23 13:22:20 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA24798; Wed, 23 May 90 13:18:14 -0700 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA24442; Wed, 23 May 90 13:09:31 -0700 Resent-Message-Id: <9005232009.AA24442@presto.ig.com> Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 90 13:09:29 -0800 Resent-From: mcb@presto.ig.com (Michael C. Berch) Subject: Fw: Re: MXM cover of "Nothing Compares 2 U" Resent-To: jitr Received: from ames.arc.nasa.gov by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA02507; Mon, 21 May 90 17:37:55 -0700 Received: by ames.arc.nasa.gov (5.61/1.2); Mon, 21 May 90 17:37:52 -0700 Received: from pbuddy.srv.pacbell.com by srv.PacBell.COM (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA07558; Mon, 21 May 90 16:56:10 PDT Received: from hobbes.srv.pacbell.com.srv.PacBell.COM by pbuddy.srv.pacbell.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA03690; Mon, 21 May 90 16:59:25 PDT Date: Mon, 21 May 90 16:59:25 PDT From: tlhouns@pbuddy.srv.pacbell.com (Lee Hounshell) Message-Id: <9005212359.AA03690@pbuddy.srv.pacbell.com> To: jitr-request Subject: Re: MXM cover of "Nothing Compares 2 U" Status: OR ----- Begin Included Message ----- >So, is the new cover of "Nothing Compares 2 U" getting much airplay in >places other than the Bay Area? It's by an Italian band variously >referred to as "MXM" or "Maximum" (I haven't seen the record itself >anywhere). It features a singer who sounds a little like Sinead on >diet pills (or maybe helium) and a synthetic backing beat complete >with piano riffs. Live 105 (KITS-FM, San Francisco) has been playing >it a couple times daily for the last few weeks, and for the first few >times it was good for a double-take until you realized that it wasn't >Sinead. (At first I thought it might have been the original version >by Prince's "Family" band.) ----- End Included Message ----- Whoa!! I thought the "Nothing Compares 2 U" was originally sung by (get this) Frank Sinatra!! At least that's what a local radio station said the other day when they played Frankie's version immediately after Sinead's version. Apparently, the song has been around quite a while. It just didn't become popular until now. A few of the words were changed for Sinead's version that essentially bring the song "up to date," but for the most part, it's the same song Frankie did, just recycled. (bet that surprised a bunch of you) Lee Hounshell From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu May 24 13:46:34 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA24718; Thu, 24 May 90 13:45:26 -0700 Received: from ncis.tis.llnl.gov by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA24714; Thu, 24 May 90 13:45:21 -0700 Return-Path: Received: by ncis.tis.llnl.gov (4.1/1.14.9x2-TIS) id AA22919; Thu, 24 May 90 13:36:21 PDT Message-Id: <9005242036.AA22919@ncis.tis.llnl.gov> Date: Thu, 24 May 90 13:36:19 -0800 From: kanders@ncis.tis.llnl.gov (Kevin J. Anderson) Subject: Sinatra Compares 2 Sinead To: jitr Status: OR Someone posted a bit of misinformation that "Nothing Compares 2U" was originally sung by Frank Sinatra. I've heard the "Sinatra" version on the radio, too -- but it's a *gag*! A Sinatra impersonator doing the song with all the cliched style of Sinatra. It's not real! Besides, a glance at the lyrics clearly shows that the song was written by Prince. Somehow I don't think Prince is old enough to have been writing classic songs for Frank Sinatra. kevin j. anderson From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu May 24 15:31:14 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA27300; Thu, 24 May 90 15:29:36 -0700 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA27297; Thu, 24 May 90 15:29:19 -0700 Message-Id: <9005242229.AA27297@presto.ig.com> Date: Thu, 24 May 90 15:29:18 -0800 From: mcb@presto.ig.com (Michael C. Berch) Subject: Cocteau Twins/4AD list request To: jitr Status: OR A new subscriber to JITR has asked me to advise him as to the address of the Cocteau Twins/4AD Records mailing list, if any. It doesn't seem to appear in my copy of Steve Owens' list of musical mailing lists, so if anyone is aware of the subscription address please drop a line to ee8kh@gdt.bath.ac.uk (for those in the UK, of course, that's ee8kh@uk.ac.bath.gdt). -- Michael jitr-request@presto.ig.com From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri May 25 10:29:21 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA03248; Fri, 25 May 90 10:25:23 -0700 Received: from ames.arc.nasa.gov by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA03229; Fri, 25 May 90 10:25:14 -0700 Received: by ames.arc.nasa.gov (5.61/1.2); Fri, 25 May 90 10:24:59 -0700 Received: by pyramid.pyramid.com (5.61/OSx5.0-890710) id AA26274; Fri, 25 May 90 10:14:56 -0700 Received: from ttidcb.tti.com by ttidca.TTI.COM with SMTP (5.61-bind 1.5+ida/IDA-1.2.8) id AA03696; Fri, 25 May 90 10:05:36 -0700 Received: by ttidcb.TTI.COM (5.61-bind 1.5+ida/IDA-1.2.8) id AA19483; Fri, 25 May 90 10:05:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 25 May 90 10:05:32 -0700 From: Terence Davis Message-Id: <9005251705.AA19483@ttidcb.TTI.COM> To: jitr Subject: Cocteau Twins Mailing list. Cc: terence@ttidca.tti.com Status: OR I sent this to ee8kh@gdt.bath.ac.uk but just so you have it for you records. This is the original posting I sent out about 6 weeks ago. Brant tells me he's got about 50 people on his list (about 25 from the net). I don't know when he'll send out the first issue but I'll ask him this weekend. I am posting this for a friend of mine who can't post to the net but can get mail, although if you can't send him mail (either electronic or paper) you can send mail to me and I'll see that he gets it: Brant Nelson 4 March 1990 1800 Prosser Ave. #5 Los Angeles, Ca 90025 Dear 4.A.D Fans, As many of you already know from my ads in Goldmine, I am starting a fan club for the 4.A.D label in general and the Cocteau Twins in particular. This letter is to let you know a little bit more about what I plan to do. First a little bit about me: I'm a graduate student in astrophysics at UCLA and I've just finished classwork meaning that I have somewhat more free time to devote to non-academic things. I've been rather heavily into record collecting for a while and eventually came across the 4.A.D label through their best band (in my opinion anyway) the Cocteau Twins. The idea of a fan club is long overdue; I know of none for either Cocteau Twins or 4.A.D. One day a few months ago I came up with the idea of forming one. I figure the main functions of the club should be to form a group of friends who share a common interest, to keep everyone up to date with the latest 4.A.D news, to share opinions and materials relating to 4.A.D and the Cocteau Twins, and just to have fun! My plan is to put out a fanzine quarterly (maybe more often) that will feature letters, reviews, articles, news, discographies, and artwork. So right now I'm calling for submissions - letters with ideas for the club, reviews of your favourite record, stories about when you got to see the Cocteau Twins perform live (any of you that lucky?!), what you think Liz Fraser is singing about, want lists, or pretty much anything. Among other things, the first issue(s) will include a survey, 4.A.D discography and checklist, Cocteau Twins discography (larger than you might think!), some rare 4.A.D items I found extra copies of that I'm selling, a couple of wantlists, and a review of a wonderful new Vaughan Oliver (v.23) art exhibition booklet. Perhaps most importantly - what's in this newsletter depends to a large extent on what you submit. What would you most like to see (besides Liz, Robin, and Simon performing in your hometown)? Issue One of Dewdrops will be out by May or June. The cost per issue I haven't worked out yet, but it will be around $1 to cover copying and postage. This letter is the first mailing en masse concerning the fan club and there will be one more progress report before the first issues are mailed, probably sometime in April to give you an update. I may correspond with some of you individually before then. I am going to write to Ivo Watts-Russel (4.A.D founder) and Capitol Records soon to let them know about the club, and to see if there's any recent 4.A.D/Cocteau news. Finally, for anyone who has access to a computer account that can send electronic mail, my address is nelson@uclastro or nelson@astro.ucla.edu (whichever works). Yours truly, Brant Nelson From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Fri May 25 15:04:04 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA10844; Fri, 25 May 90 14:59:27 -0700 Received: from barad-dur.endor.cs.psu.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA10840; Fri, 25 May 90 14:59:24 -0700 Received: by barad-dur.endor.cs.psu.edu id 7201; Fri, 25 May 90 17:56:41 EDT From: "Patrick A. Troy" To: jitr Subject: Sinead on the cover of Rolling Stone Message-Id: <90May25.175641edt.7201@barad-dur.endor.cs.psu.edu> Date: Fri, 25 May 90 17:56:39 EDT Status: OR Sinead is appearing on the cover of June 14th's Rolling Stone. I haven't had time to look at it yet, so I don't know what all is said about her. I figured that just this bit of news is important enough to post all by itself. Pat From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Tue May 29 13:31:37 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA27523; Tue, 29 May 90 13:26:57 -0700 Received: from ducvax.auburn.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA27519; Tue, 29 May 90 13:26:51 -0700 Message-Id: <9005292026.AA27519@presto.ig.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 90 15:31 CDT From: DMONEY@ducvax.auburn.edu Subject: Sinead walks out! (Austin, TX) To: jitr X-Vms-To: IN%"jitr@presto.ig.com" Status: OR This was recently posted on the newsgroup rec.music.misc: > From: aejc@walt.cc.utexas.edu (AEJCampbell) > Newsgroups: rec.music.misc > Subject: Sinead O'Connor > Summary: stage fright in Austin > Date: 28 May 90 19:56:53 GMT > Sender: news@ut-emx.UUCP > Reply-To: aejc@walt.cc.utexas.edu (AEJCampbell) > Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas > Posted: Mon May 28 14:56:53 1990 > > Sinead O'Connor left the stage twenty minutes (five songs) into > her Austin (Texas) concert Saturday night (5/26). She said nothing > before walking off the stage. After a few minutes a perplexed > crowd was informed the concert was over, and O'Connor left > because of "medical reasons." A report in the Sunday edition > of The_Austin_American-Statesman stated O'Connor has been > having trouble with her voice. However, today (Monday, 5/28) > Jody Denberg of KLBJ-FM announced the real problem was stage > fright. > > Concert attendees are still awaiting information on ticket > refunds or rescheduling. > AEJCampbell Has anyone here heard anything about this? Is this group still alive? - Dean - From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Wed May 30 14:06:25 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA29442; Wed, 30 May 90 14:03:07 -0700 Received: from jade.Berkeley.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA29423; Wed, 30 May 90 14:02:56 -0700 Received: from xenon.Berkeley.EDU by jade.berkeley.edu (5.61.1/1.16.25) id AA13432; Wed, 30 May 90 13:59:17 PDT Received: by xenon.berkeley.edu. (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA18082; Wed, 30 May 90 14:02:18 PDT From: mudie@xenon.berkeley.edu (David C Mudie) Message-Id: <9005302102.AA18082@xenon.berkeley.edu.> To: jitr Subject: Anybody heard of Hugh Harris? Date: Wed, 30 May 90 14:02:14 PDT Status: OR Neon green posters around town announce that somebody named Hugh Harris will open for Sinead in Berkeley 6/3 and 6/4. Anybody know anything about this guy? -D- From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Wed May 30 15:58:11 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA03006; Wed, 30 May 90 15:54:54 -0700 Received: from hub.ucsb.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA03000; Wed, 30 May 90 15:54:50 -0700 Received: from ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu by hub.ucsb.edu; id AA17373 sendmail 4.0/UCSB-2.0-sun Wed, 30 May 90 15:53:29 PDT for jitr@presto.ig.com Received: by ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (4.1/SMI-3.2) id AA15160; Wed, 30 May 90 15:55:12 PDT Date: Wed, 30 May 90 15:55:12 PDT From: 6600jf24%ucsbuxa@ucsb.edu (The Reverend Jeff Flory) Message-Id: <9005302255.AA15160@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu> To: jitr Subject: Vox Status: OR What's the deal with her leaving the stage early that last concert she did? Is it really her voice going to something? Whoever finds out, please let us know. . . Reverend Flory From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu May 31 09:03:02 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA23496; Thu, 31 May 90 09:01:44 -0700 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA23492; Thu, 31 May 90 09:01:38 -0700 Received: from E40-008-6.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA01327; Thu, 31 May 90 12:01:29 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by E40-008-6.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA02210; Thu, 31 May 90 12:01:26 -0400 Message-Id: <9005311601.AA02210@E40-008-6.MIT.EDU> To: jitr Subject: Rolling Stone interview Date: Thu, 31 May 90 12:01:24 EDT Status: OR Has anybody read this yet? Any thoughts/comments? My impression is that Sinead hasn't realized what she's gotten her self into. Events such as the Austin walkout, point out that she is not used to the deified status she gets from crowds wherever she performs. I can't even think how she'll react to arena audiences this summer (she's playing Great Woods in Massachusetts that as a seating of around 10,000...). Although her voice can fill the largest stadium, I don't think that her music will sound good in such a setting. Looking back at her concert at the Orpheum (~3000 seats), I think there was a noticeable difference in her mood and her performance from the 1988 concert at the Paradise that I've listened to over and over again. She was more withdrawn from the crowd. Judging from her songwriting so far, I am willing to bet that her next album will be called "I am sick of success". But as she says "There's millions of people who offer advice and tell me how I xshould be, but they're twisted and they'll never be any influence on me", so I don't want to join that club and will stop here. I will however remember the days when people asked me who was singing, and when I said "Sinead", they asked "Shin-who?". Angelos From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu May 31 09:16:43 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA23909; Thu, 31 May 90 09:13:18 -0700 Received: from ducvax.auburn.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA23897; Thu, 31 May 90 09:13:10 -0700 Message-Id: <9005311613.AA23897@presto.ig.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 90 11:17 CDT From: DMONEY@ducvax.auburn.edu Subject: Sinead walks out! (Dallas, too.) To: jitr X-Vms-To: IN%"jitr@presto.ig.com" Status: OR Earlier, I reposted an article about Sinead walking out after only twenty-five minutes in Austin. A friend in Dallas said she left the stage after only forty-five minutes there. The Dallas show was, I believe, the night before the Austin show. Dean From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu May 31 09:32:45 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA24496; Thu, 31 May 90 09:31:25 -0700 Received: from ames.arc.nasa.gov by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA24488; Thu, 31 May 90 09:31:19 -0700 Received: by ames.arc.nasa.gov (5.61/1.2); Thu, 31 May 90 09:31:03 -0700 Posted-Date: Wed, 30 May 90 22:43:39 PST Received: from uunet.UU.NET by cs.utexas.edu (5.61/1.62) id AA08994; Thu, 31 May 90 11:24:53 -0500 Received: from nwnexus.UUCP by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP id AA19058; Thu, 31 May 90 12:23:07 -0400 Received: by nwnexus.WA.COM (5.52.1/smail2.5/10-31-88) id AA26516; Thu, 31 May 90 08:29:49 PDT Received: by sensual.wa.com (UUPC/pcmail 1.0095) with UUCP; Wed, 30 May 90 22:43:39 PST Date: Wed, 30 May 90 22:43:39 PST From: Steve Schonberger Message-Id: <2664bd1b@sensual.wa.com> X-Mailer: UUPC/mail 1.095 To: jitr Subject: Re: Anybody heard of Hugh Harris? Status: OR In reply to David, asking about the Berkeley show, I don't have a clue who Hugh Harris is. But to my knowledge everyone who has opened for Sinead in the U.S. has been a rapper, so I would consider it a safe bet to say he is a rapper also. Even if you don't like rap, you should be sure to go early (unless it's a reserved seating show), because it will be full. I arrived at First Avenue during her last tour an hour or so before the rapper was scheduled to start, and still only managed to get standing space near the middle of the place. (Actually, it was a good spot, pretty close to the soundboard, but the favored front spots were pretty packed by the time the rappers started.) Steve -- Steve Schonberger Why should I disclaim anything when I own this site? steve@sensual.wa.com (Yet another site named after a Kate Bush song) From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu May 31 10:21:25 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA26080; Thu, 31 May 90 10:18:20 -0700 Received: from porthos.rutgers.edu by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA26076; Thu, 31 May 90 10:18:15 -0700 Received: by porthos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.3/3.06) id AA08935; Thu, 31 May 90 13:15:41 EDT Date: Thu, 31 May 90 13:15:39 EDT From: jessica To: Steve Schonberger Cc: jitr Subject: Re: Anybody heard of Hugh Harris? In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 30 May 90 22:43:39 PST Message-Id: Status: OR Hugh Harris wasn't rap... no, not at all. jessica ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | I will live by my own policies, I will sleep with a clear conscience, | | I will sleep in peace. (Sinead O'Connor) | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu May 31 10:42:26 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA26727; Thu, 31 May 90 10:40:56 -0700 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) with SMTP id AA26723; Thu, 31 May 90 10:40:52 -0700 Received: from E40-008-6.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA03610; Thu, 31 May 90 13:40:48 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by E40-008-6.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA03088; Thu, 31 May 90 13:40:46 -0400 Message-Id: <9005311740.AA03088@E40-008-6.MIT.EDU> To: jitr Subject: Hugh Harris Date: Thu, 31 May 90 13:40:44 EDT Status: OR In response to the questions asked, Hugh Harris is NOT a rapper. He is a Terence Trent D'Arby /Lenny Kravitz type of guy. I personally was extremely bored with his performance. But still it's worth seeing. Who knows maybe someday he'll be famous too. Angelos From jitr-request@presto.ig.com Thu May 31 11:03:49 1990 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA26624; Thu, 31 May 90 10:37:56 -0700 Received: by presto.ig.com (5.61/1.15) id AA26619; Thu, 31 May 90 10:37:53 -0700 Date: Thu, 31 May 90 10:37:53 -0700 From: relph@presto.ig.com (John M. Relph) Message-Id: <9005311737.AA26619@presto.ig.com> To: jitr Subject: Re: MORRISSEY: NOVEMBER MONSTER Newsgroups: rec.music.misc In-Reply-To: <74332@aerospace.AERO.ORG> References: <30659@ut-emx.UUCP> <10997@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> Organization: IntelliGenetics Inc., Mtn. View, Ca. Cc: Status: OR [Reposted here without permission] [In article <74332@aerospace.AERO.ORG> lubofsky@aerospace.aero.org writes] In article <10997@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> pa2024@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Milo D. Cooper) writes: >I don't care what anyone says, Morrissey is quite innovative, and >his distinct sound makes "November Spawned a Monster" a pretty good >song. Especially interesting is the song's bridge, in which the >music slows to a dreamy pace accompanied by strangulated, howling >(female?) vocals. I think it's SINEAD O'CONNOR babbling in tongues! :-) __________________________________________________________________________ Nicholas Lubofsky e-mail: lubofsky@aerospace.aero.org The Aerospace Corporation ---------------------------- Los Angeles voice-mail: (213) 336-5454 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | When they kick at your front door, | | How're you gonna come? | | With your hands on your head, | | Or on the trigger of your gun? |