From babel-list-owner Fri Aug 1 05:29:30 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id FAA01120 for babel-list-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from bitstream.net (exodus.bitstream.net [204.73.77.87]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id FAA01115 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 05:29:24 -0700 (PDT) From: weldy@bitstream.net Received: from [206.144.237.121] (port121.bitstream.net [206.144.237.121]) by bitstream.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id HAA13395 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 07:29:07 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 07:35:20 -0500 To: babel@postmodern.com Subject: NYC this weekend Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Last minute travel change places me in NYC for the weekend! Please post or email me any hot music or cultural tips! 8-2 through 8-4. Love to all from a faithful reader (but infrequent poster)... GET ME OUTTA MINNEAPOLIS FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!! "You're buying THAT?"- any Tower Records employee From babel-list-owner Fri Aug 1 09:59:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id JAA01898 for babel-list-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:59:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from tir.com (sun.tir.com [205.138.41.6]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id JAA01893 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jswanson.tir.com (war27.tir.com [205.218.87.166]) by tir.com (8.7.5/8.7) with ESMTP id MAA07600 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 12:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33E21589.5A02679F@tir.com> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 12:57:47 -0400 From: Jenifer Swanson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: 88 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <9706318703.AA870372823@ccsmtp.risd.edu> <19970731.195320.12367.2.m.rourke@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ What is the significance of 88? Love and laughter jenifer From babel-list-owner Fri Aug 1 10:38:37 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA02009 for babel-list-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 10:38:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from inmet.com (mx1.inmet.com [141.199.15.7]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id KAA02004 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 10:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camb.inmet.com by inmet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA18754; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:37:31 -0400 Received: from harp.i2ada by camb.inmet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA01556; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:37:31 -0400 Received: by harp.i2ada (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA14942; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:37:30 -0400 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:37:30 -0400 From: mg@dsd.camb.inmet.com (Mitch Gart) Message-Id: <199708011737.NAA14942@harp.i2ada> To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: Re: 88 Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ 88 is a pun on Summer Cannibals eat-eat-ate-ate. Bon appetit, - Mitch From babel-list-owner Fri Aug 1 17:55:24 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id RAA03558 for babel-list-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 17:55:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from trapt.twi.com (gate.twi.com [207.25.35.3]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id RAA03553 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 17:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twmail.twi.com by trapt.twi.com via smtpd (for kristeva.postmodern.com [198.102.244.54]) with SMTP; 2 Aug 1997 00:55:15 UT Received: from WILSONSPC.timeinc.com by ecsmtp.twi.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA26877; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 20:54:31 -0400 Message-Id: <199708020054.UAA26877@ecsmtp.twi.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Wilson Smith" To: babel-list@postmodern.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 19:55:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: 88... Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54 preview) Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Came upon this "alt.culture" book that splained that "88" was some kinda nazi skinhead thing, too. "h" is the 8th letter of the alphabet, so... "88" -> "hh" -> "heil, hitler" [i swear to gawd]. Just kinda fyi... [specially if yer gonna be sportin these things in public or permanently markin' yerself or something (88 tattoos, jeezus fuckin christ [shudder]...)] W Wilson Smith neslon@panix.com Austin, Texas http://www.panix.com/~neslon People just naturally like distortion. -- James Luther Dickinson From babel-list-owner Fri Aug 1 19:12:41 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id TAA03818 for babel-list-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 19:12:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from york.interport.net (york.interport.net [199.184.165.8]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id TAA03813 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 19:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from #dalynyc.interport.com (ts3port33.port.net [207.38.249.33]) by york.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA14844 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 22:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33E29816.5A6B@interport.net> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 22:14:46 -0400 From: JED X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: Re: 88... References: <199708020054.UAA26877@ecsmtp.twi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Wilson Smith wrote: > > Came upon this "alt.culture" book that splained that "88" was some kinda nazi > skinhead thing, too. "h" is the 8th letter of the alphabet, so... > "88" -> "hh" -> "heil, hitler" [i swear to gawd]. > > Just kinda fyi... [specially if yer gonna be sportin these things in public or > permanently markin' yerself or something (88 tattoos, jeezus fuckin > christ [shudder]...)] > From babel-list-owner Fri Aug 1 19:50:34 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id TAA04013 for babel-list-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 19:50:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from brickbat9.mindspring.com (brickbat9.mindspring.com [207.69.200.12]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id TAA04008 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 19:50:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (ip110.an21-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.32.110]) by brickbat9.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA18755 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 22:50:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 22:50:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970801224723.24676238@pop.pipeline.com> X-Sender: eltyger@pop.pipeline.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: babel-list@postmodern.com From: "j.BOLt SThAR eNYCh" Subject: Re:[2] 88... Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ 2243 EDT // Fri 1 Aug 97 // BklnNYC Oops! ************************************************************** >From: "Wilson Smith" >To: babel-list@postmodern.com >Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 19:55:53 -0500 >Subject: 88... ... >Came upon this "alt.culture" book that splained that "88" was >some kinda nazi skinhead thing, too. "h" is the 8th letter of >the alphabet, so... > > "88" -> "hh" -> "heil, hitler" [i swear to gawd]. > >Just kinda fyi... [specially if yer gonna be sportin these >things in public or permanently markin' yerself or something >(88 tattoos, jeezus fuckin christ [shudder]...)] > >W > >Wilson Smith neslon@panix.com >Austin, Texas http://www.panix.com/~neslon > >People just naturally like distortion. > -- James Luther Dickinson ************************************************************** Thanx Wilson (List-Mom Emeritus), --// eLTyger --// /*RESPECT FOR THE ELECTRON(S)*/ --// /*SACRED LIGHTNING/ DANCE THE WORLD*/ From babel-list-owner Sat Aug 2 10:03:02 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA07278 for babel-list-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:03:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from denmark.it.earthlink.net (denmark-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.22]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id KAA07273 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [207.217.13.188] (pool038-max17.la-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.13.188]) by denmark.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA17850 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:02:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:02:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: babel-list@postmodern.com From: mbella@earthlink.net (Craig Stoker) Subject: sigs Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ re: >Incidentally, I've been meaning to bring this up... has anybody noticed >how Patti Smith's signature has changed over the years? I have a signed >copy of Witt (and I've seen other early signatures...isn't there one on >the Horses cover? or is it RE?), and I've had her sign copies of Early >Works, Woolgathering, and a copy of the Mapplethorpe book "Flowers" for >which she wrote the intro. Her 90s signature looks very different. Yes. I've noticed that about everyone. Look at Burroughs too. In fact, look at your own signiture over the years. Is it the same as it was 10 years ago? It's interesting. I think our sigs get less and less discernable the older we get. I have to sign my name so many times a day (because of my job, not because I'm a superstar) that it looks like a few squiggly lines, a dot, and a couple of dashes these days. --Y ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The family will no longer control the western hemisphere. it will exhist in its pleasure but not in its tyranny. -Patti Smith From babel-list-owner Sat Aug 2 10:30:20 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA07364 for babel-list-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:30:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from donkeykong.rs.itd.umich.edu (root@donkeykong.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.63.19]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id KAA07359 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:30:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from galaga.rs.itd.umich.edu by donkeykong.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/3.0-mailhub) with ESMTP id NAA20968; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 13:30:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (birena@localhost) by galaga.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/4.0-client) with SMTP id NAA04384 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 13:30:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 13:30:13 -0400 (EDT) From: barbara nagler X-Sender: birena@galaga.rs.itd.umich.edu To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: 88 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Well, it's a mobius strip infinity sign & encompasses just about everything! it's Scorpio, 8th sign. a knotted snake. serpent medicine is about neutralizing & transforming poison. we can take on the skinheads & such and turn them into ... mushrooms with magical properties industrial noise & jewelry wind tunnels generated in skyscrapers sandstorm nightmares extraterrestrials & frustrated artists the scared kids they are whatever Free the firesnakes and unchain the waters bon appetit and a strong stomach, Irena From babel-list-owner Sat Aug 2 10:36:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA07403 for babel-list-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:36:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from donkeykong.rs.itd.umich.edu (root@donkeykong.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.63.19]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id KAA07398 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:36:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from galaga.rs.itd.umich.edu by donkeykong.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/3.0-mailhub) with ESMTP id NAA21138; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 13:36:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (birena@localhost) by galaga.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/4.0-client) with SMTP id NAA04630 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 13:36:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 13:36:24 -0400 (EDT) From: barbara nagler X-Sender: birena@galaga.rs.itd.umich.edu To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: sigs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Really, how wearisome to imagine writing it neatly over and over. W/time it becomes a power squiggle, or a little lightning bolt of ink. It turns more into a pictogram of someone's energy. Irena From babel-list-owner Sat Aug 2 11:15:21 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id LAA07523 for babel-list-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 11:15:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from denmark.it.earthlink.net (denmark-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.22]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id LAA07518 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 11:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [207.217.13.188] (pool014-max20.la-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.14.164]) by denmark.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA24117 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 11:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 11:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: babel-list@postmodern.com From: mbella@earthlink.net (Craig Stoker) Subject: FYI PS Books Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ ---------- SEVENTH HEAVEN by Smith ,patti New York Telegraph Books. About Good/soiled ,wear And Tear To Covers. Illustrated By Photo On Front Cover. (Keywords: poetry illustrated by photo on front cover.) The price of the book is US$ 1.00 Please reference the seller's book # 000729 when ordering. The seller is John Nelson Sr 32 Marriner Ave , Albany, NY, USA, 12205. Loubooks@Worldnet.att.net. Ph: 518 459-1291. Terms of sale: Check with order or call 518 463-1023 from 11am to 5pm or after 6pm call 518 459-1291. Master Card,Visa or Discover Card. All books are shopped postage paid. Sets and shipments outside US are shipped at actual cost. All books are guaranteed to be as discribed or your money is refunded. Payment by Master Card/Visa, Discover. Checks with order.Shipping is included on all order in the US. Sets and outside US are shipped at accual cost. Insurence extra. Books are guaranteed as discribed or we will refund your money within 5 days. http://www.abebooks.com/cgi/abe.exe/routera^_pr=oi^_ph=1^_bi=3235380 ---------- SEVENTH HEAVEN by Smith,patti Boston Telegraph Books 1972. About Good,wear To Covers. Post Paid. Illustrated By Photo Of Author On Cover. 1st/3rd Edition. Binding Is Wraps. (Keywords: poetry patti smith illustrated by photo of author on cover) The price of the book is US$ 12.50 Please reference the seller's book # 000730 when ordering. The seller is John Nelson Sr 32 Marriner Ave , Albany, NY, USA, 12205. Loubooks@Worldnet.att.net. Ph: 518 459-1291. Terms of sale: Check with order or call 518 463-1023 from 11am to 5pm or after 6pm call 518 459-1291. Master Card,Visa or Discover Card. All books are shopped postage paid. Sets and shipments outside US are shipped at actual cost. All books are guaranteed to be as discribed or your money is refunded. Payment by Master Card/Visa, Discover. Checks with order.Shipping is included on all order in the US. Sets and outside US are shipped at accual cost. Insurence extra. Books are guaranteed as discribed or we will refund your money within 5 days. http://www.abebooks.com/cgi/abe.exe/routera^_pr=oi^_ph=1^_bi=3235381 This mail was created 08/02/1997 06:34:22 AM and postmarked 08/02/1997 07:53:51 AM ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The family will no longer control the western hemisphere. it will exhist in its pleasure but not in its tyranny. -Patti Smith From babel-list-owner Sat Aug 2 16:28:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id QAA08132 for babel-list-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 16:28:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from nickkean.ihug.co.nz (root@nickkean.ihug.co.nz [203.29.160.249]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id QAA08127 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 16:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mcduda.ihug.co.nz (port548-Auck.ihug.co.nz [209.76.149.40]) by nickkean.ihug.co.nz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA27232 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 11:26:40 -1200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970803112507.00696ce0@pop.ihug.co.nz> X-Sender: mcduda@pop.ihug.co.nz X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 11:25:07 +1200 To: babel-list@postmodern.com From: Marty Subject: Patti book Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I just conducted an interview with Chris Charlesworth, the publisher of Omnibus Press and asked him about their upcoming Patti Smith book. Here is a transcript of that portion of the conversation: MD: I heard you're doing a Patti Smith book. CC: I'm quite excited about it. MD: Who's writing it? CC: A guy called Nick Johnson. He's an English writer, writes for Melody Maker. I was really surprised no one has done a serious Patti Smith book before, because she's perfect. She has a literary tradition. She's on the cutting edge, or she was for a long period. she's different, political, unusual. and she dressed in black and white clothes. There's a quote in this book from Peter Buck (from R.E.M.) he says when he saw Patti Smith for the first time, he went out and for the next eight years, he wore black and white clothes. So cool. and I figured, he did, didn't he? He wore black jeans and a white shirt and a white sort of vest, waistcoat thing, and he wore nothing but that.Picture after picture after picture of Peter Buck, and the reason was, he saw Patti Smith wearing that. But no, this is the first really serious study of Patti Smith's work. MD: She has always been reluctant to cooperate. CC: She hasn't co-operated with us, but she hasn't objected. We told her, 'hey, anybody can write a book about anybody. You don't have to have the artist's co- operation.' I fact, the majority of Omnibus books do not have the artist's co-operation. It doesn't matter who you're writing about, a politician or a film star, any one in the public eye. You can write a book about them as long as you don't libel them or breach their copyright, which you must be careful about. But Patti said, 'You're going to write a book. I can't stop you. Best of luck.' But it's about 80-90 thousand words, the first decent length book there's ever been about Patti smith. It will probably be followed by a spate of them, but at least I'm coming out first. MD: She definitely seems primed for it, with the comeback. CC: That's right. She's re-emerged in the past twelve months. That's what gave us the idea. MD: And she has a new album coming out in October. CC: It's great she's coming back. Cheers, Marty From babel-list-owner Sat Aug 2 18:43:26 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id SAA08336 for babel-list-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 18:43:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from york.interport.net (york.interport.net [199.184.165.8]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id SAA08331 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 18:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from #dalynyc.interport.com (ts3port17.port.net [207.38.249.17]) by york.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA09077 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 21:43:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33E3E2B7.6157@interport.net> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 21:45:28 -0400 From: JED X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Patti book References: <3.0.1.32.19970803112507.00696ce0@pop.ihug.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Marty wrote: > But Patti said, 'You're going to write a book. I can't stop you. > Best of luck.' Doesn't exactly sound like a hearty endorsement to me... From babel-list-owner Sat Aug 2 19:09:58 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id TAA08423 for babel-list-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 19:09:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from zeus.carroll.com (zeus.carroll.com [199.224.10.2]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id TAA08418 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 19:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [199.224.10.191] [199.224.10.191] by zeus.carroll.com with SMTP (8.8.5/0) id WAA06866; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 22:09:36 -0400 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 22:09:36 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: babel-list@postmodern.com From: prod@carroll.com (Elvis) Subject: Re: Patti book Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Marty wrote: [snip snip]I was really surprised no one has done a serious Patti Smith book >before, because she's perfect. But no, this is >the first really serious study of Patti Smith's work. > Marcus Gray who wrote the rem book "It Crawled From the South" proposed a book about Patti his his editor about 4 years ago and was turned down. They suggested he write about someone more famous. What a difference a few years makes. P. From babel-list-owner Sat Aug 2 20:52:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id UAA08550 for babel-list-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 20:52:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from emout06.mail.aol.com (emout06.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.97]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id UAA08545 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 20:52:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Bluemuse@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA26833 for babel-list@postmodern.com; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 23:52:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 23:52:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970802235217_-589245878@emout06.mail.aol.com> To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: Fwd: Author William S. Burroughs Dies Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I found this unfortunate news item in my mailbox tonight. --Bob Farace --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Author William S. Burroughs Dies Date: 97-08-02 23:18:44 EDT From: AOL News 
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By MARIA SUDEKUM KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) - William S. Burroughs, the stone-faced godfather of the ``Beat generation'' whose experimental novel ``Naked Lunch'' unleashed an underground world that defied narration, died Saturday. He was 83. Burroughs died at 6:50 p.m. in Lawrence, Kan., at Lawrence Memorial Hospital, about 24 hours after suffering a heart attack, said Ira Silverberg, his longtime New York publicist. ``The passing of William Burroughs leaves us with few great American writers. His presence in the American literary landscape was unparalleled,'' Silverberg said. Published in 1959, ``The Naked Lunch'' used unconventional writing techniques to depict an underground world fighting a technological society that was self destructing. ``The Naked Lunch'' was both praised as literary genius and dismissed as indecipherable garbage because Burroughs wrote it without standard narrative prose, used abrupt transitions, placed the chapters in random order and wrote in a stream-of-conciousness style. The book also was the subject of a precedent-setting obscenity trial because of its violence and explicit sex. Publishers eventually won an appeal in Boston, and the book was published in the United States in 1962. ``Naked Lunch,'' which prompted Norman Mailer to say Burroughs was possibly the most talented writer in America, made Burroughs famous as a spokesman for the Beat generation. Burroughs continued his unconventional style by using a technique called cut-ups in subsequent books, including ``The Soft Machine'' (1961), ``The Ticket that Exploded'' (1962), and ``Nova Express'' (1964). Cut-ups involved random cutting and pasting and folding into his own writing quotations from other authors, newspapers and other media. Burroughs was an important influence on other Beat writers such as Allen Ginsberg and Jack Kerouac, who were fledging writers when they met Burroughs in New York in the 1940s. The three are now considered the core of the Beat movement, which flourished in the 1950s by condemning middle-class life and praising individualism. Kerouac's ``On the Road,'' Ginsberg's ``Howl'' and Burroughs' ``The Naked Lunch,'' are generally considered the most important works to come out of the movement. ```Naked Lunch' was pretty much the essence of his work,'' said Morris Dickstein, a professor of English at City University of New York. ``It came out when writers were trying to do something new to explore the irrational side of the mind, to try and get away from conventional techniques.'' Born in 1914 in St. Louis, Burroughs was the grandson and namesake of the inventor of the adding machine, but he said that his parents were not wealthy and were rejected by the city's elite. Burroughs was educated at the John Burroughs School and Taylor School, both in St. Louis, and at a prep school in Los Alamos, N.M. He received a bachelor's degree in English from Harvard University in 1936 and did some graduate work in ethnology and archeology. After moving to New York City, Burroughs developed a heroin addiction and was a junkie for about 15 years. During this period he lived in Texas, New Orleans, Mexico City, South America, Northern Africa, Paris and London. He did little writing at the time, but his experiences were the fodder for many of his books. He married a German-Jewish refugee, but only to enable the woman to emigrate to the United States. They were divorced in 1946. The same year, Burroughs entered into a common law marriage with Joan Vollmer. In later years, Burroughs acknowledged he was homosexual and said Vollmer was the only woman with whom he ever had a serious relationship. Burroughs' life was changed forever in 1951 when, after a day of drinking and drugs, he accidentally shot and killed Vollmer. Burroughs, who always had a penchant for guns, said he was trying to shoot a glass off his wife's head and instead shot her in the forehead. In a biography published in 1982, ``Literary Outlaw,'' Burroughs said that shooting led to his becoming a serious writer. ``I am forced to the appalling conclusion that I would never have become a writer but for Joan's death, and to a realization of the extent to which this event has motivated and formulated my writing. I live with the constant threat of possession, and a constant need to escape from possession, from Control. So the death of Joan brought me in contact with the invader, the Ugly Spirit and maneuvered me into a lifelong struggle, in which I have had no choice except to write my way out.'' Burroughs was charged with the equivalent of involuntary manslaughter and fled Mexico. The couple had a son, Bill Jr., in 1947. He was an alcoholic and drug addict who died of cirrhosis of the liver in 1981. Burroughs essentially disappeared from the literary scene while living in London in the early 1970s. His influence began to grow again when, at Ginsberg's urging, he returned to New York City in 1974. Shortly after his return, Burroughs met James Grauerholz, who became his secretary and began renewing Burroughs' career by scheduling readings across the country and in Europe. Burroughs continued to influence artists and musicians through the hippies of the 1960s and the punks of the 1970s. Musicians such as David Bowie, Lou Reed and Patti Smith have cited Burroughs as an important influence. ``He gave them techniques to get inside the dark side of the mind,'' said Dickstein, who wrote a book on the 1960s called ``Gates of Eden.'' ``He explored the fantastic, the irrational, so he freed them from a pretty rational form of literary narration.'' Burroughs began using drugs again and Grauerholz, who went to school at the University of Kansas, persuaded Burroughs to move to Lawrence, Kan., in 1981. Burroughs began to write more conventional narratives after his move to Kansas, including ``Place of the Dead Roads,'' in 1984, and ``The Western Lands,'' in 1987. He also began a second career as a visual artist, as well as writing screenplays, appearing in films (``Drugstore Cowboy'' and ``Twister''), writing an opera text, and even appearing in a Nike television ad. ``In the last few years, he became a figure that people looked up to as a pioneer of the avant garde,'' said Dickstein. ``He became an elder statesman for a lot of people.'' AP-NY-08-02-97 2312EDT 
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From babel-list-owner Sat Aug 2 22:15:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id WAA08684 for babel-list-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 22:15:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.8]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id WAA08679 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 22:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA20355 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 00:15:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sfo-ca27-11.ix.netcom.com(207.93.61.139) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma020340; Sun Aug 3 00:14:46 1997 Message-ID: <33E414EF.14DB@IX.NETCOM.COM> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 22:19:43 -0700 From: dolores stamm Organization: tech fasteners X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Ha Ha Houdini References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Steve Kenney wrote: > > I don't know about "The Night," but about a year ago I was browsing (read: > drooling) the rarities for sale at Gotham Book Mart and Andreas showed me a > copy of "Ha Ha Houdini" with the lock and key, and as I recall they wanted > about $100 for it. 'Twas too rich for my blood, so I satisified myself with a > signed first edition of "Witt" for $45. > skenney was this particular price of 100.00 for houdini authographed? or is that price for an unsigned copy? From babel-list-owner Sat Aug 2 23:15:01 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id XAA08810 for babel-list-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 23:15:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from york.interport.net (york.interport.net [199.184.165.8]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id XAA08802 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 23:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from #dalynyc.interport.com (ts3port12.port.net [207.38.249.12]) by york.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA11901 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 02:14:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33E4225C.4DA5@interport.net> Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 02:17:00 -0400 From: JED X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: Oliver (and Patti) at CB's Gallery Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Oliver Ray performed at CB's Gallery on Saturday night, and Patti joined him for two songs. CB's Gallery is next door to CBGB's on the Bowery. Oliver arrived just before his set was to begin. Patti, Oliver's "roadie" for the evening, helped him carry his guitars to the stage and then sat at a table with friends for the show. Oliver opened the set with an instrumental. A bluesy sort of thing played on a dobro (I think...some kind of steel guitar anyway). He then sang several songs, including Walking Blind and Phenobarbitol and God (two of his songs that Patti has performed) and others. He also read some poetry. The set was all acoustic, and he was more than competent on the guitar. During the first few songs, his voice was a bit weak, and he seemed pretty nervous, but once he warmed up, he sounded quite good. Not a great voice, technically, but he sings with a lot of passion. One of the songs he did was a cover of a Grateful Dead song (he mentioned that today was Garcia's birthday). He did an especially great version of Walking Blind (it rivaled Patti's IMHO). Later, Patti came up on stage and sang two songs, and played guitar. Oliver accompanied Patti on guitar. I didn't recognize the first song (a soft acoustic song that Patti sang in a very high voice, for Patti, and she sounded great), but the second was Grateful, an acoustic song she performed a few times last summer (I love that song...!). Lenny was also in the audience, which numbered about 50. There was no mention of Burroughs' passing. Maybe they didnt' know yet... From babel-list-owner Sun Aug 3 01:25:40 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id BAA10684 for babel-list-outgoing; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 01:25:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from powergrid.electriciti.com (root@powergrid.electriciti.com [198.5.212.11]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id BAA10679 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 01:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [198.5.212.98] (line05.cs5.electriciti.com [198.5.212.98]) by powergrid.electriciti.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA05669; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 01:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 01:30:02 -0700 To: agit8@hotmail.com From: runner Subject: Re: William Burroughs Is Dead Cc: babel@postmodern.com, bstoffma@lausd.k12.ca.us, azulado@aol.com, ChrisHein@aol.com, Dfroley@aol.com, EugeneAhn@aol.com, gershwin@cinenet.net, Raminocs@aol.com, jill@jillbell.com, 6500ljn@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu, Marioka7@aol.com, oktober@post.cis.smu.edu, piers@humnet.ucla.edu, googie@wam.umd.edu, sinsco@cinenet.net, tpreece@pacbell.net, vpaul@gwdi.com Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ << start of forwarded material >> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 00:01:08 -0400 Reply-To: Greg Elwell Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" From: Greg Elwell Subject: Re: William Burroughs Is Dead To: BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU If anybody's interested, check out this page on the Internet that I found moments ago: http://www.abcnews.com/sections/us/ap_burroughs802/index.html DAMN! This is a shock. Greg Elwell elwellg@voicenet.com Greg Elwell elwellg@voicenet.com||elwellgr@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------------- << end of forwarded material >> http://www.electriciti.com/babu/ | 0 | step aside, and let the man go thru | { - | ----> let the man go thru | /\ | super bon-bon (soul coughing) ========= From babel-list-owner Sun Aug 3 01:28:27 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id BAA10722 for babel-list-outgoing; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 01:28:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from powergrid.electriciti.com (root@powergrid.electriciti.com [198.5.212.11]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id BAA10717 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 01:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [198.5.212.98] (line05.cs5.electriciti.com [198.5.212.98]) by powergrid.electriciti.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA05798 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 01:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 01:33:12 -0700 To: babel@postmodern.com From: runner Subject: 88 Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ also 88 = double infinity beyond possibility, transcend trancend 4 eyes are better than none http://www.electriciti.com/babu/ | 0 | step aside, and let the man go thru | { - | ----> let the man go thru | /\ | super bon-bon (soul coughing) ========= From babel-list-owner Sun Aug 3 06:58:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id GAA11297 for babel-list-outgoing; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 06:58:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from gemini.smart.net (gemini.smart.net [206.27.242.109]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id GAA11292 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 06:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [0.0.0.0.] (fi.smart.net [205.219.246.223]) by gemini.smart.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA01409 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 10:00:46 -0400 Message-Id: <199708031400.KAA01409@gemini.smart.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Fiona Webster" Organization: http://www.oceanstar.com To: babel-list@postmodern.com Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 09:44:56 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: R.I.P. Bill Burroughs Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ "The doctor smiles terribly. "I am referring your case directly to the coroner.' '' ---William S. Burroughs I just heard about Burroughs' death by reading about it in this AM's _Washington Post_. I knew it was coming some year, and I guess Allen Ginsberg's death was a warning of sorts, but still... I have that stunned, empty feeling you have when someone you've always treasured, just that they're *out* there, being who they are, is now gone. The "chronic malingerer," he called himself. I wanted to believe he would never die. The _Washington Post_ said that Kerouac and Ginsberg were better known than Burroughs, and maybe that's true, but of the three, Burroughs has been the most important to me (although it's a close call). Because of his writing -- his arrival in Interzone with "that grey anonymously ill-intentioned look that all writers have" -- because of _Naked Lunch_ and _Nova Express_ and "language is a virus from outer space" and the cut-up techniques and the talking asshole routine and the tales of Tangiers and the incomparable sound of his voice reading his own stuff. Giorno Poetry Systems. "Towers, Open Fire." The Inspector of Sewers. The feel of a gun in his hand. The Disposable Heroes of Hypocrisy. Spare Ass Annie. Dead City Radio. Even the Nike commercials were cool. *Damn.* (I know I'm sayin' what's incredibly obvious.) The way he envisioned death and eros -- the terminal orgasm. The (putatively) morally repugnant universe (think Genet, Artaud) that is somehow redemptive anyway because of the sheer perversity of its beauty. WSB was/is a master of repetition: repetition of images, repetition of words, repetition of ideas. Repetition like that gets your mind going on an entirely different level, so when he wants to make a point, he doesn't even have to talk about the subject...he can talk about whatever he wants, and the reader makes the connection. The exquisite nuances of his paranoia: "the agent inside''---the spy who, unbeknownst to us, lives inside of us, betraying us, The way he echoed Cocteau, Kafka, Rimbaud, Blake, Spengler, et al. His attraction to the gratuitous act. J. G. Ballard called him "the first mythographer of the mid-twentieth century, and the lineal successor to James Joyce, to whom he bears more than a passing resemblance--exile, publication in Paris, undeserved notoriety as a pornographer, and an absolute dedication to the Word . . . His novels are the first definitive portrait of the inner landscape of our mid-century, using its unique language and manipulative techniques, its own fantasies and nightmares." Damn. I'm gonna miss him. --Fiona Webster From babel-list-owner Sun Aug 3 07:01:22 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id HAA11352 for babel-list-outgoing; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 07:01:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from gemini.smart.net (gemini.smart.net [206.27.242.109]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id HAA11347 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 07:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [0.0.0.0.] (fi.smart.net [205.219.246.223]) by gemini.smart.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA01478 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 10:03:45 -0400 Message-Id: <199708031403.KAA01478@gemini.smart.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Fiona Webster" Organization: http://www.oceanstar.com To: babel-list@postmodern.com Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 09:47:55 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: a WSB memorial page? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Is there any interest in putting up a WSB memorial page, like the one we did for Allen? Or one that's less elaborate... whatever... even just a page of links... Here's my deal: I have an out-of-town guest arriving in just a few hours, and have *no* time. (arrrgghh...) If someone else would like to volunteer to collect the materials for the page, I'd be happy to either link to it from the babelogue site, or (if necessary) put it up at the bab site. And I could send a photo or two -- I think I might be able to squeeze out the time to do a couple of scans. --Fiona From babel-list-owner Sun Aug 3 13:05:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id NAA12103 for babel-list-outgoing; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 13:05:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from york.interport.net (york.interport.net [199.184.165.8]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id NAA12098 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 13:05:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from #dalynyc.interport.com (ts3port3.port.net [207.38.249.3]) by york.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA01278 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 16:05:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33E4E517.3783@interport.net> Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 16:07:51 -0400 From: JED X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: Jeff Buckley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ According to Addicted to Noise, 8/2, Patti Smith sent a poem to be read at last Friday's memorial service for Jeff Buckley at St. Ann's Church in Brooklyn. The poem was, according to ATN, supposedly a new poem written for the occasions called "the wing." (I wasn't there when or if it was read, but since Patti has a poem in Early Works called Wing, and the song on Gone Again, I'd tend to think that whatever she sent might not have been new, but who knows. Was anybody on the list there?). From babel-list-owner Sun Aug 3 13:54:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id NAA12299 for babel-list-outgoing; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 13:54:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from inmet.com (mx1.inmet.com [141.199.15.7]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id NAA12294 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 13:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camb.inmet.com by inmet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA28136; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 16:53:48 -0400 Received: from harp.i2ada by camb.inmet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA11049; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 16:53:47 -0400 Received: by harp.i2ada (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA06709; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 16:53:47 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 16:53:47 -0400 From: mg@dsd.camb.inmet.com (Mitch Gart) Message-Id: <199708032053.QAA06709@harp.i2ada> To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: Burroughs Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ A couple of months ago, listening to the Kerouak album and letting my mind wander, I thought about young Jack and Allen and William sitting around a cafe somewhere late at night, musing about what they'd all be like when they were old men, and how they'd think it was funny if they could look into the future and see William living the longest, and Allen doing the contribution to Jack's tribute album just a little while before Allen's death. And they'd all think it was funny and ironic that they were so venerated after they were gone. - Mitch From babel-list-owner Mon Aug 4 04:44:17 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id EAA15792 for babel-list-outgoing; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 04:44:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from cphub.mail.saic.com (cpmx.saic.com [139.121.95.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id EAA15787 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 04:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cpqm02.mail.saic.com by cpmx.mail.saic.com; Mon, 4 Aug 97 04:42:18 -0700 Message-ID: Date: 4 Aug 1997 07:42:26 -0800 From: "Steve Kenney" Subject: Re: Ha Ha Houdini To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 4.0.0 Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ >>>was this particular price of 100.00 for houdini authographed? or is that price for an unsigned copy?<<< i'm pretty sure it was autographed, and certainly very limited edition with the little lock and key. skenney From babel-list-owner Mon Aug 4 04:55:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id EAA15837 for babel-list-outgoing; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 04:55:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from cphub.mail.saic.com (cpmx.saic.com [139.121.95.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id EAA15832 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 04:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cpqm.mail.saic.com by cpmx.mail.saic.com; Mon, 4 Aug 97 04:54:15 -0700 Message-ID: Date: 4 Aug 1997 07:56:27 -0800 From: "Steve Kenney" Subject: Re: Patti book To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 4.0.0 Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ i remember reading on this list some months back that Victor Bockris, the guy who did a book on Lou Reed and one on the VU and one on Burroughs (converging threads...) was doing a biography of Patti -- also, of course, w/o her cooperation. i'll have to search the list archives for the reference. anyone know any more about this? perhaps the spate of books this fellow suggested is indeed about to commence.... skenney From babel-list-owner Mon Aug 4 07:16:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id HAA16220 for babel-list-outgoing; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 07:16:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from tscpl.lib.ks.us ([206.52.71.193]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id HAA16215 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 07:16:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WestGeneral.tscpl.lib.ks.us by tscpl.lib.ks.us (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA24169; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 09:13:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 09:13:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199708041413.JAA24169@tscpl.lib.ks.us> X-Sender: vkyle@moses.tscpl.lib.ks.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: babel-list@postmodern.com From: "Veronica Kyle@ Topeka & Shawnee Co. Public Library" Subject: Re: Fwd: Author William S. Burroughs Dies Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ At 11:52 PM 8/2/97 -0400, you wrote: >I found this unfortunate news item in my mailbox tonight. > >--Bob Farace >Forwarded message: >Subj: Author William S. Burroughs Dies >Date: 97-08-02 23:18:44 EDT I think I am still in the early stages of accepting his death, but it hasn't sunk in quite yet. Although, I will try to find out for myself, will someone out there let me know when they find out when his memorial service will be? I live in Topeka, which is only about 30 miles from Lawrence, KS, so I might be able to attend. Anybody else planning to go? Veronica From babel-list-owner Mon Aug 4 07:54:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id HAA16352 for babel-list-outgoing; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 07:54:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from cicero.cybercity.dk (cicero.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.13]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id HAA16346 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 07:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vip.cybercity.dk (usr01.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.201]) by cicero.cybercity.dk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12618 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 16:35:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hunter.dk-online.dk (msx-07-1-29.1033.cybercity.dk [195.8.139.30]) by vip.cybercity.dk (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id QAA14358 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 16:29:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <33E5E53E.7DD2@vip.cybercity.dk> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 16:20:46 +0200 From: hunter desportes X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: Re: a WSB memorial page? References: <199708031403.KAA01478@gemini.smart.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I'd be glad to supply technical help to such a project (like setting up the HTML). My WSB knowledge is very incomplete at this point. Some interesting Burrough's info and links can be found at: www.disinfo.com Fiona wrote: > > Is there any interest in putting up a WSB memorial page, like > the one we did for Allen? Or one that's less elaborate... > whatever... even just a page of links... > From babel-list-owner Mon Aug 4 08:03:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id IAA16411 for babel-list-outgoing; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 08:03:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from donkeykong.rs.itd.umich.edu (root@donkeykong.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.63.19]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id IAA16406 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 08:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from galaga.rs.itd.umich.edu by donkeykong.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/3.0-mailhub) with ESMTP id LAA03090; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 11:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (birena@localhost) by galaga.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/4.0-client) with SMTP id LAA25882 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 11:02:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 11:02:49 -0400 (EDT) From: barbara nagler X-Sender: birena@galaga.rs.itd.umich.edu To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: burroughs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I tried to find the 2 pages in The Ticket that Exploded by William Burroughs that I once got stuck in. It was the first Burroughs work I read and I couldn't get past those two pages. not because they were tedious, but because I didn't want to leave. They were an exploding ticket. I just read them over and over. The book's gone from the library shelves, along with most of his others. and himself. It's like missing teeth. A tunnel to somewhere with a warning wind blowing out of it. So I got The Cat Inside instead. (one of those "later, more conventional works" I suppose) A beautiful ink slash drawing on the cover like a signature, full of distilled, electric cat-- a key and a gateway guardian. And one staring cat's eye peering through stripes of its own gold-and-shadow fur. Irena From babel-list-owner Mon Aug 4 08:07:49 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id IAA16453 for babel-list-outgoing; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 08:07:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from pilot07.cl.msu.edu (pilot07.cl.msu.edu [35.9.5.17]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id IAA16448 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 08:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pm157-05.dialip.mich.net (pm157-05.dialip.mich.net [35.9.15.16]) by pilot07.cl.msu.edu (8.7.5/MSU-2.10) id LAA67867; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 11:06:40 -0400 Message-ID: <33E619E2.4827@pilot.msu.edu> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 11:05:22 -0700 From: Cassie Carter Organization: Michigan State University X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Fwd: Author William S. Burroughs Dies References: <199708041413.JAA24169@tscpl.lib.ks.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Did anyone see any "tributes" to Burroughs on TV this weekend? The only thing I saw was a brief mention of him on FOX news late Saturday night and a little "in the news now" listing on CNN Saturday afternoon. Maybe I just wasn't looking in the right places at the right times, but I was expecting something like the big stories and tributes Ginsberg got. Just wondering . . . -- Cassie Carter American Thought & Language |---------------------------| 229 Ernst Bessey Hall | THE JIM CARROLL WEBSITE | Michigan State University | www.msu.edu/user/carterca | E. Lansing, MI 48824 | /carroll/carroll.htm | carterca@pilot.msu.edu |---------------------------| From babel-list-owner Mon Aug 4 09:04:50 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id JAA16614 for babel-list-outgoing; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 09:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708041604.JAA16614@server.postmodern.com> X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f From: Osborne Dan To: Babel List Subject: RE: INTRODUCTION Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:27:00 +0100 Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Steve wrote ... >love Patti as well as Cale, Reed, Dylan, Sun Ra Kevin Coyne, Iggy and a >whole lot more. Welcome Steve - a Kevin Coyne fan eh? I knew it would have to be something special to tempt me out of lurking mode and Kev is that man! I've been thinking since your post of the similarities between Kevin and Patti - not immediately obvious I know but both are artists and writers in addition to singers. In fact, didn't they both have works of art in some exhibition earlier this year? Also their both dead good of course. As for dissimilarities, well, I have a treasured painting by Kevin Coyne entitled "A Splendid But Difficult Nose" but no Patti Smith originals! TTFN Dan From babel-list-owner Mon Aug 4 10:12:52 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA16899 for babel-list-outgoing; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 10:12:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from hotmail.com (F83.hotmail.com [207.82.250.189]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id KAA16891 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 10:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19071 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 1997 17:11:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19970804171102.19070.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.42.131.165 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 04 Aug 1997 10:11:00 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.42.131.165] From: "Alison Armstrong" To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: Burroughs documentary and possible Babel meetings Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 10:11:00 PDT Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Re Burroughs: There is a great documentary about Burroughs that was made about 1980-something. Burroughs recites various pieces from his works and there are a lot of interviews with people acquainted with him, including Ginsberg and Patti. The reent talk about a possible Patti concert after her record is released once again started me wondering if any Babelers in the NYC area would like to get together to go to Patti events and perhaps socialize once in awhile. I raised this idea before, but I wanted to bring it up because being new to NYC, I don't know many people interested in Patti, music, the arts, etc. and would really like to meet others with similar interests. When some of us met last year at Patti's Summerstage concert, it was wonderful. If any of you are interested in doing this, please e-mail me at akaains@hotmail.com or at my other address(alikat@spacelab.net). Hope to see some of you sometime. Alison ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From babel-list-owner Mon Aug 4 14:46:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id OAA17946 for babel-list-outgoing; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 14:46:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from tir.com (sun.tir.com [205.138.41.6]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id OAA17939 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 14:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jswanson.tir.com (war74.tir.com [205.218.87.213]) by tir.com (8.7.5/8.7) with ESMTP id RAA18554 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 17:45:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33E64D4F.4C2CC1FD@tir.com> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 17:44:50 -0400 From: Jenifer Swanson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Fwd: Author William S. Burroughs Dies X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199708041413.JAA24169@tscpl.lib.ks.us> <33E619E2.4827@pilot.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ This is a good essay honoring Burroughs. jenifer http://www.salonmagazine.com/aug97/news/news970804.html From babel-list-owner Mon Aug 4 15:48:21 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id PAA18100 for babel-list-outgoing; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 15:48:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from sweden.it.earthlink.net (sweden-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.50]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id PAA18095 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 15:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [207.217.15.34] (pool034-max21.la-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.15.34]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA11925 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 15:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 15:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: babel-list@postmodern.com From: mbella@earthlink.net (Craig Stoker) Subject: FYI - PS 1971 Rolling Stone Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ ---------- REVIEW OF LOTTE LENYA RECORDING. 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Texas residents must add 8.25% sales tax. http://www.abebooks.com/cgi/abe.exe/routera^_pr=oi^_ph=1^_bi=3260821 This mail was created 08/04/1997 07:08:24 AM and postmarked 08/04/1997 08:21:13 AM ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You will simply send back a report that there is no evidence of nova activity on planet earth." -Wm.S.Burroughs From babel-list-owner Tue Aug 5 06:46:41 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id GAA21983 for babel-list-outgoing; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 06:46:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from iceland.it.earthlink.net (iceland-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.28]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id GAA21978 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 06:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [207.217.8.193] (pool043-nitro1.la-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.8.193]) by iceland.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA29027 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 06:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 06:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: babel-list@postmodern.com From: mbella@earthlink.net (Craig Stoker) Subject: Wm.B Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Cassie Carter writ: >Did anyone see any "tributes" to Burroughs on TV this weekend? The only thing I saw was a brief mention of him on FOX news late Saturday night and a little "in the news now" listing on CNN Saturday afternoon. ...I rarely watch TV but NPR radio did more than a little bit on Wm.B yesterday and KCRW (Los Angeles) will have an entire program for 'Bill' on Friday. I'll try to post the time later. I'm still trying to get over the weird electronic and subconscious messages I received just prior to his death. --Y ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Let's go up the Metropole and suck some bubbly." -Wm.S.Burroughs From babel-list-owner Tue Aug 5 07:39:38 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id HAA22067 for babel-list-outgoing; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 07:39:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from ozemail.com.au (server3.syd.mail.ozemail.net [203.108.7.41]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id HAA22062 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 07:39:33 -0700 (PDT) From: imail@thei.aust.com Received: from oznet07.ozemail.com.au (oznet07.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.122]) by ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA09285 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 00:39:31 +1000 (EST) Received: from [203.108.5.224] (slsyd14p64.ozemail.com.au [203.108.5.224]) by oznet07.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA29410 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 00:39:27 +1000 (EST) X-Sender: imail@thei.aust.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199708031400.KAA01409@gemini.smart.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 00:36:30 +1000 To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: In Memory of Bill Burroughs - Site Online Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ See http://www.thei.aust.com/bill/burroughs.html for a 'cut-up', 'fold-in' site dedicated to the late and great hard man of Hip, WILLIAM S. BURROUGHS. Includes: feature article, interview, book excerpts, quotes from Burroughs and Gysin + an 'Images & Text' section, featuring Burroughs' art, quotes about his work + many photographs ... "What we call 'art' - painting, sculpture, writing, dance, music - is magical in origin. That is, it was originally employed for ceremonial purposes to produce very definite effects. In the world of magic nothing happens unless someone wants it to happen, and there are certain magical formulae to channel and direct the will. The artist is trying to make something happen in the mind of the viewer or reader." - William S. Burroughs From babel-list-owner Tue Aug 5 08:21:16 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id IAA22179 for babel-list-outgoing; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:21:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from f58.hotmail.com (F58.hotmail.com [207.82.250.144]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id IAA22174 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by f58.hotmail.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA14850; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708051520.IAA14850@f58.hotmail.com> Received: from 198.80.139.234 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 05 Aug 1997 08:20:39 PDT X-Originating-IP: [198.80.139.234] From: "Phillip Ward" To: babel-list@postmodern.com Cc: gorimbaud@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 08:20:39 PDT Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ stoker writ re: mr.bill: "I'm still trying to get over the weird electronic and subconscious messages I received just prior to his death." yo stoker, elaborate. curious on the eastern front! :) phillip ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From babel-list-owner Tue Aug 5 10:22:47 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA22418 for babel-list-outgoing; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:22:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from trapt.twi.com (gate.twi.com [207.25.35.3]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id KAA22413 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twmail.twi.com by trapt.twi.com via smtpd (for [198.102.244.54]) with SMTP; 5 Aug 1997 17:22:42 UT Received: from WILSONSPC.timeinc.com by ecsmtp.twi.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA06582; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 13:21:46 -0400 Message-Id: <199708051721.NAA06582@ecsmtp.twi.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Wilson Smith" To: babel-list@postmodern.com Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 12:23:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Live-Online Event of the Year-- tibetan concert? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54 preview) Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Hey, d00dZ, The utterly irrelevant cool site of the year awards are being voted on. The nominees for "Live-Online Event of the Year": * Deep Blue vs. Kasparov * Mars Pathfinder * The GIG * Webstock '96 * Tibetan Freedom Concert Personally, I had a blast doing the tibetan freedom thing... If you want to vote, here's an URL: http://www.cool.infi.net/csoty/csoty97_register.html --- Craig, funny stuff bout the electronic rumblings. Magnetic field out here has been a mess since last friday or saturday, and the static in my head has been particularly intense lately... W Wilson Smith neslon@panix.com Austin, Texas http://www.panix.com/~neslon The moon to the left of me is a part of my thoughts is a part of me is me. Whatever it is. -- Roky Erikson From babel-list-owner Tue Aug 5 12:07:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id MAA22954 for babel-list-outgoing; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 12:07:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from tir.com (sun.tir.com [205.138.41.6]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id MAA22949 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 12:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jswanson.tir.com (war68.tir.com [205.218.87.207]) by tir.com (8.7.5/8.7) with ESMTP id PAA22114 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:07:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33E779A7.CAA3EF17@tir.com> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 15:06:16 -0400 From: Jenifer Swanson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: Spoken Word X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ According to Mercury Mail, "Spoken Word", Patti Smith (Tim/Kerr) was released today. Love and laughter jenifer From babel-list-owner Tue Aug 5 12:48:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id MAA23138 for babel-list-outgoing; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 12:48:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from inmet.com (mx1.inmet.com [141.199.15.7]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id MAA23133 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 12:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camb.inmet.com by inmet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA12926; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:47:23 -0400 Received: from harp.i2ada by camb.inmet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA23602; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:47:22 -0400 Received: by harp.i2ada (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA22638; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:47:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:47:22 -0400 From: mg@dsd.camb.inmet.com (Mitch Gart) Message-Id: <199708051947.PAA22638@harp.i2ada> To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Spoken Word Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Jenifer wrote: > According to Mercury Mail, "Spoken Word", Patti Smith (Tim/Kerr) was > released today. I dug around the Web, found a phone number for Tim/Kerr, 503 236-0013, called them, and they say the disc is "still caught up in legal" and not released yet. They say Patti called them and still wants to do it. The woman I spoke to said she has heard the disc and it sounds great. They're getting a lot of calls about it. No guess when it will be released. Damn! - Mitch From babel-list-owner Tue Aug 5 13:47:51 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id NAA23337 for babel-list-outgoing; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 13:47:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from tir.com (sun.tir.com [205.138.41.6]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id NAA23332 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 13:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jswanson.tir.com (war48.tir.com [205.218.87.187]) by tir.com (8.7.5/8.7) with ESMTP id QAA16618 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 16:47:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33E7912E.CD25CAB1@tir.com> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 16:46:39 -0400 From: Jenifer Swanson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Spoken Word X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199708051947.PAA22638@harp.i2ada> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Sorry for the mis-information :( jenifer From babel-list-owner Tue Aug 5 15:26:33 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id PAA23725 for babel-list-outgoing; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:26:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from emout06.mail.aol.com (emout06.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.97]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id PAA23720 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:26:27 -0700 (PDT) From: TimJDF@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id SAA07705 for babel@postmodern.com; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 18:25:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 18:25:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970805182511_1315640151@emout06.mail.aol.com> To: babel@postmodern.com Subject: Thanks Fiona Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Thanks, Fiona, for putting into words everything that went through my head when I first heard of Burrough's death. You said it all. Tim! From babel-list-owner Wed Aug 6 08:54:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id IAA28445 for babel-list-outgoing; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 08:54:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from smtp.enteract.com (david.enteract.com [206.54.252.252]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id IAA28440 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 08:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3863 invoked from network); 6 Aug 1997 15:54:30 -0000 Received: from baphomet-24.d.enteract.com (HELO sunny.enteract.com) (207.229.148.24) by david.enteract.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 1997 15:54:30 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970806105451.0069b714@pop.enteract.com> X-Sender: sunny@pop.enteract.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 10:54:53 -0500 To: babel@postmodern.com From: Steve Glabman Subject: PATTI LIVE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Ok all you groovy guys and gals here is a hot scoop. FOr all the lucky souls out East Patti is playing a benefit in Boston with Lenny Kaye and Oliver. It is august 11, at Morse Auditorium, 602 commonwealth 8PM Hope someone out there can make it and give a first hand report or better yet a tape. "JOHNNY GETS UP, TAKES OFF HIS LEATHER JACKET" Steve in Space sunny@enteract.com Visual Arts & Poetry at: http://www.usk.org. From babel-list-owner Wed Aug 6 13:20:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id NAA29797 for babel-list-outgoing; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 13:20:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from inmet.com (mx1.inmet.com [141.199.15.7]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id NAA29792 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 13:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camb.inmet.com by inmet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA05285; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 16:19:34 -0400 Received: from harp.i2ada by camb.inmet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA15879; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 16:19:33 -0400 Received: by harp.i2ada (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA21797; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 16:19:33 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 16:19:33 -0400 From: mg@dsd.camb.inmet.com (Mitch Gart) Message-Id: <199708062019.QAA21797@harp.i2ada> To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: Boston meeting Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Would anybody like to meet after Patti's concert next Monday night in Boston? Our BU Photographic Resource Center mole tells us there aren't any great places to meet in that neighborhood, but that Pizzeria Uno in Kenmore Square, a couple of blocks from the concert, is where he usually goes. Complicating things, there's a Boston Red Sox night game August 11 at 7:05. This means driving to the concert and parking there will be hard, and taking the MTA would be a better idea, and it also means that if the concert gets out around the same time as the baseball game Uno's will be jammed. But anyway, anyone who would like to meet up after the concert, let's try to meet there, unless somebody has a better idea. 88 - Mitch From babel-list-owner Wed Aug 6 17:15:22 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id RAA00310 for babel-list-outgoing; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 17:15:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from hirame.wwa.com (hirame.wwa.com [198.49.174.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with SMTP id RAA00304 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 17:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [205.243.67.171] [205.243.67.171] by hirame.wwa.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.WWA) id m0wwGCN-000VaOC@hirame.wwa.com; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 19:14:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 19:13:03 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: bab@miso.wwa.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: babel-list@postmodern.com From: bab@wwa.com (Bruce Beatus) Subject: Burroughs Memorial Tribute Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Received a call from a gallery owner in Kansas City today who has exhibited Burrough's works. He is going to attend a memorial service at this evening at 7:00 p.m. in Lawrence, KS in the University chapel. He seemed to think that a lot of people will be flying in to pay their respects. From babel-list-owner Wed Aug 6 17:57:27 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id RAA00428 for babel-list-outgoing; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 17:57:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from acs-mail.bu.edu (root@ACS-MAIL.BU.EDU [128.197.153.100]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id RAA00423 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 17:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp1.bu.edu (PPP-93-11.BU.EDU [128.197.9.99]) by acs-mail.bu.edu (8.8.5/BU_Server-1.3) with ESMTP id UAA40970 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 20:54:46 -0400 Message-ID: <33E91CBB.3739060E@bu.edu> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 20:54:19 -0400 From: JP Jacob X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: Re: Boston meeting X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199708062019.QAA21797@harp.i2ada> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Mitch Gart wrote: > Would anybody like to meet after Patti's concert next Monday night in > Boston? Our BU Photographic Resource Center mole tells us there > aren't > any great places to meet in that neighborhood, but that Pizzeria Uno > in Kenmore Square, a couple of blocks from the concert, is where he > usually goes. Complicating things, there's a Boston Red Sox night > game August 11 at 7:05. This means driving to the concert and parking > > there will be hard, and taking the MTA would be a better idea, and it > also means that if the concert gets out around the same time as the > baseball game Uno's will be jammed. But anyway, anyone who would > like to meet up after the concert, let's try to meet there, unless > somebody has a better idea. > > 88 > > - Mitch You know, i don't get out much, and I am pretty lazy, so there may actually be nicer places to go than Uno's (it's just close). But Mitch is right about competition with Red Sox fans (for example, Beerworks is near, but I wouldn't want to go there on a game night...). Anyway, do let me know what's going on after the show and I'll keep thinking about nicer places to meet. john -- jpjacob@bu.edu Photographic Resource Center at Boston University http://web.bu.edu/PRC From babel-list-owner Thu Aug 7 10:50:57 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA04345 for babel-list-outgoing; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 10:50:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com (emout19.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.45]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id KAA04340 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 10:50:25 -0700 (PDT) From: REMHEAD69@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id NAA15986 for babel-list@postmodern.com; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 13:49:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 13:49:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970807134707_141924710@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: Burroughs Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ There is an interesting REMembrance of William S. Burroughs in The Village Voice (Aug. 12.) If you can't find it, send me a S.A.S.E. at the addy below, and I'll get it to you. Please e-mail me if you want it so I can secure enough copies for those interested. Bobby RemHead 26 Cliffwood Terrace East Rutherford, NJ 07073 ".....i settle for a cup of coffee, but you know what i really need. Leave me to lay, but touch me deep, I don't sleep, I dream. I'll settle for a cup of coffee, but you know what I REALLY need..." From babel-list-owner Thu Aug 7 17:35:49 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id RAA05931 for babel-list-outgoing; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 17:35:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f From: 374738 - Merry Gregg Message-Id: <199708072316.QAA03997@mail.inreach.com> To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: Burroughs Memorial Tribute Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 16:16:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 2.1; Mac_PowerPC) Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ http: //www.postmodern.com/~babel/archives/babel-list.9708 I attended Burroughs Memorial Tribute at Lawrence, KS in the University chapel... It was magic... He must have been in heaven!... (duh!) Merry From babel-list-owner Thu Aug 7 20:17:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id UAA00196 for babel-list-outgoing; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 20:17:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from nickkean.ihug.co.nz (root@nickkean.ihug.co.nz [203.29.160.249]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id UAA00191 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 20:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mcduda.ihug.co.nz (port968-Auck.ihug.co.nz [203.29.161.206]) by nickkean.ihug.co.nz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA07151 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 14:21:20 +1200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970808142131.006a0fec@pop.ihug.co.nz> X-Sender: mcduda@pop.ihug.co.nz X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 14:21:31 +1200 To: babel-list@postmodern.com From: Marty Subject: Manson review Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Addicted To Noise ran a review of Marilyn Manson's recent show in Toronto. Here is an excerpt that should be of interest to Babel-listers Marty Funny to say then that Manson's too subtle for many people, yet this seems to be the case. The most overtly rebellious thing he did in Toronto was to play his rendition of Patti Smith's "Rock And Roll Nigger" after being threatened with arrest for doing so by the lame-brained Toronto police, who thought the nearly 20-year-old song "racist." Duhhhhh. The Rev. Manson patiently explained that the lyrics instead refer to all people who are oppressed for "being the way they are," for thinking and/or looking different. Then, after a heartfelt dedication to "the fucking Canadian Police Force," he of course played a blazing version of Smith's rebel anthem. From babel-list-owner Thu Aug 7 21:53:49 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id VAA00422 for babel-list-outgoing; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 21:53:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from kyoko.mpx.com.au (new-kyoko.mpx.com.au [203.2.75.38]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id VAA00417 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 21:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.compucon.com.au(really [203.2.75.79]) by kyoko.mpx.com.au via smtpd with esmtp id for ; Fri, 8 Aug 97 14:53:32 +1000 (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.13.SOL #30.20 built 28-jun-97) Received: from ANGELA by gatekeeper.compucon.com.au with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0wwh3d-000KAdC; Fri, 8 Aug 97 14:53 EST Date: Fri, 8 Aug 97 14:53 EST Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970808145546.0d2f04e2@192.0.0.1> X-Sender: angela_c@192.0.0.1 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: babel-list@postmodern.com From: "angela_c@compucon.com.au" Subject: Re: Burroughs Memorial Tribute Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ At 04:16 PM 8/7/97 -0700, you wrote: >I attended Burroughs Memorial Tribute at Lawrence, KS in the University chapel... It was magic... He must have been in heaven!... (duh!) >Merry > More details please! Angela angela_c@compucon.com.au > > > From babel-list-owner Fri Aug 8 05:07:08 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id FAA02843 for babel-list-outgoing; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 05:07:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from cphub.mail.saic.com (cpmx.mail.saic.com [139.121.95.10]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id FAA02837 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 05:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cpqm.mail.saic.com by cpmx.mail.saic.com; Fri, 8 Aug 97 05:06:28 -0700 Message-ID: Date: 8 Aug 1997 08:05:20 -0800 From: "Steve Kenney" Subject: Re: Burroughs Memorial Trib To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 4.0.0 Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ >>>He must have been in heaven!<<< there's a cartoon in this week's Washington (DC) City Paper that I actually found kind of amusing (though i suppose one COULD read it differently) -- Burroughs standing before God or St. Peter or whoever at the gates of heaven and saying "what the hell am i doing HERE?!?" From babel-list-owner Fri Aug 8 09:23:22 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id JAA03414 for babel-list-outgoing; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 09:23:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from brickbat9.mindspring.com (brickbat9.mindspring.com [207.69.200.12]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id JAA03409 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 09:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (ip224.an1-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.12.224]) by brickbat9.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA15239 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:22:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:22:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970808122137.2a3fcdc8@pop.pipeline.com> X-Sender: eltyger@pop.pipeline.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: babel-list@postmodern.com From: "j.BOLt SThAR eNYCh" Subject: Re:[2] Burroughs Memorial Trib Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ 1213 EDT // Fri 8 Aug 97 // BklnNYC Thancks skenny. That's just about a Perfect image... ************************************************************** >Date: 8 Aug 1997 08:05:20 -0800 >From: "Steve Kenney" >Subject: Re: Burroughs Memorial Trib >To: babel-list@postmodern.com ... >>>>He must have been in heaven!<<< > >there's a cartoon in this week's Washington (DC) City Paper that I actually >found kind of amusing (though i suppose one COULD read it differently) -- >Burroughs standing before God or St. Peter or whoever at the gates of heaven >and saying "what the hell am i doing HERE?!?" ************************************************************** "Radiant! Blazing! Unlike Anyone Else..." --// eLTyger --// /*RESPECT FOR THE ELECTRON(S)*/ --// /*SACRED LIGHTNING/ DANCE THE WORLD*/ From babel-list-owner Fri Aug 8 10:59:30 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA03604 for babel-list-outgoing; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:59:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from brickbat9.mindspring.com (brickbat9.mindspring.com [207.69.200.12]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id KAA03599 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (ip249.an7-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.18.249]) by brickbat9.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA25605 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 13:58:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 13:58:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970808135817.490fb17e@pop.pipeline.com> X-Sender: eltyger@pop.pipeline.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: babel-list@postmodern.com From: "j.BOLt SThAR eNYCh" Subject: Re: William Burroughs Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ 1348 EDT // Fri 8 Aug 97 // BklnNYC R. I. P. William Burroughs 1913 - 1997 ( Sat 2 Aug 97 // 2050 EDT ) To The Realm of Pirate Kings... GodBless/ Blessed Be/ GodSpeed/ From babel-list-owner Fri Aug 8 17:19:39 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id RAA04901 for babel-list-outgoing; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 17:19:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from natasha.eden.com (root@natasha.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id RAA04896 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 17:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from matrix.eden.com (net-5-062.austin.eden.com [206.81.247.62]) by natasha.eden.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA17645 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 19:19:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199708090019.TAA17645@natasha.eden.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: kaos@eden.com To: babel-list@postmodern.com Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 19:17:28 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: boot review Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3.0.1.32.19970808142131.006a0fec@pop.ihug.co.nz> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I was lucky to get an excellent new (?) boot today -- I didnt find it reviewed at the babel web site so here goes: Patti Smith: After The Rainbow Has Gone Again entire performance: Berlin Tempodrom 30.7.96 disc one: 1) Wing (4:55) 2) Dancing Barefoot (5:28) 3) Summer Cannibals (4:19) 4) Smoke On The Water (4:20) -- Jackson Smith 5) Wicked Messenger (4:20) 6) Redondo Beach (4:37) 7) Ghost Dance (6:58) 8) Beneath The Southern Cross (not listed on CD tract list; Patti quote: "this is for Oliver") 9) Hands of Fate (7:44) -- Lenny Kaye 10) Free Money (4:38) disc two: 11) About A Boy (10:50) 12) The Crystal Ship (3:22) 13) When Doves Cry / Incl: Ain't It Strange (9:20) 14) Because The Night (4:51) 15) Wild Leaves / Incl: People Have The Power (recitation) (6:55) 16) Gone Again (4:35) 17) People Have The Power (5:33) 18) Land / Incl: Horses, Land Of A Thousand Dances/ Gloria (10:55) 19) Farewell Reel (3:43) The sound quality is excellent (audience-tape). Patti sounds well rested and her voice is strong. The CD cover (B&W) shows her leaning against a doorway (?) in a hood. Inside is a color picture of her singing in a v-neck white t-shirt. I have many boots from the "Gone Again" period -- this is easily my favorite. kaos From babel-list-owner Fri Aug 8 19:43:09 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id TAA05203 for babel-list-outgoing; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 19:43:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from emout06.mail.aol.com (emout06.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.97]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id TAA05198 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 19:43:04 -0700 (PDT) From: TimJDF@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA28443; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 22:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 22:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970808224154_31216417@emout06.mail.aol.com> To: babel@postmodern.com, psychic-tv@island.net Subject: Toto? Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Handmade sign seen in a bookstore next to the Burroughs books: William S. Burroughs He's not in Kansas anymore. Tim! From babel-list-owner Sat Aug 9 07:21:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id HAA00915 for babel-list-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 07:21:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com (emout18.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.44]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id HAA00910 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 07:21:25 -0700 (PDT) From: GoRimbaud@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA20873 for babel-list@postmodern.com(send); Sat, 9 Aug 1997 10:20:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 10:20:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970809102051_-220479895@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: babel-list@postmodern.com (send) Subject: thank you, Bill Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ ps/alm 23 revisited for William Burroughs The word is his shepherd he shall not want he spreads like the eagle upon the green hill boys of the Alhambra in vivid sash serve him still your orange juice, sir your fishing pole accepting all with tender grace and besting us with this advice children never be ashamed wrestle smile walk in sun thank you, Bill your will be done God grant you mind and medicine we draw our hearts and you within moral vested Gentleman (c) 1994 Patti Smith page 100 in EARLY WORKS From babel-list-owner Sat Aug 9 09:06:49 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id JAA01062 for babel-list-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 09:06:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail.inreach.com (mail.inreach.com [205.138.224.216]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id JAA01057 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 09:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ppp5117.stk.inreach.net [205.138.252.117]) by mail.inreach.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/(InReach)) with SMTP id JAA08581 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 09:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 09:05:09 -0700 (PDT) From: 364327 - Marry Gregg Message-Id: <199708091605.JAA08581@mail.inreach.com> To: babel@postmodern.com Subject: http://www.postmodern.com/.../babel-list.9708 X-Mailer: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 2.1; Mac_PowerPC) Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ http: //www.postmodern.com/~babel/archives/babel-list.9708 gosh... another obsession (this site)... (just what i need!...) i found this site while helping my son research the aftermath of patti's summerstage concert... we were on a trip to new york and saw the show totally by accident!... just by being in the right place...etc... (any of you out there still believe that "accident" / "right place at right time" stuff?)... he began research for his zine and i helped (kind of like shake 'n bake)... now i "find myself" in kansas (visiting same son)... and burroughs is gone... burroughs was / is the reason my mom came frighteningly close to snatching me out of that "one class / teacher in high school" that actually taught us something... (that in some cases changed our lives) the teacher wanted me to read naked lunch... my mom didn't!... i did... so there!... now i'm the "teacher" (first waldorf position begins 1/98)... and will begin the process of "spoonfeeding" the great writers of the 20th century and beyond... burroughs will be there!... ahhh... the freedom of private education... mgcg From babel-list-owner Sat Aug 9 15:48:36 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id PAA00817 for babel-list-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 15:48:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from york.interport.net (york.interport.net [199.184.165.8]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id PAA00812 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 15:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from #dalynyc.interport.com (ts3port24.port.net [207.38.249.24]) by york.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA25257 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 18:48:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33ECF444.5C32@interport.net> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 1997 18:50:44 -0400 From: JED X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: Re: http://www.postmodern.com/.../babel-list.9708 References: <199708091605.JAA08581@mail.inreach.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ 364327 - Marry Gregg wrote: > now i'm the "teacher" (first waldorf position begins 1/98)... and will begin > the process of "spoonfeeding" the great writers of the 20th century > and beyond... burroughs will be there!... > ahhh... the freedom of private education... > mgcg Welcome...you do one of the most important jobs there is! From babel-list-owner Sat Aug 9 17:19:58 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id RAA00972 for babel-list-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 17:19:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from powergrid.electriciti.com (root@powergrid.electriciti.com [198.5.212.11]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id RAA00966 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 17:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [198.5.212.60] (line15.cs6.electriciti.com [198.5.212.60]) by powergrid.electriciti.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA26982; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 17:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 17:24:07 -0700 To: babel@postmodern.com From: runner Subject: Re: A wake for William Cc: jgballard@simons-rock.edu, bstoffma@lausd.k12.ca.us, azulado@aol.com, ChrisHein@aol.com, Dfroley@aol.com, thau@hotwired.com, EugeneAhn@aol.com, Raminocs@aol.com, jill@jillbell.com, 6500ljn@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu, Marioka7@aol.com, oktober@post.cis.smu.edu, piers@humnet.ucla.edu, googie@wam.umd.edu, tpreece@pacbell.net, vpaul@gwdi.com Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ << start of forwarded material >> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 17:40:14 -0500 Reply-To: Patricia Elliott Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" From: Patricia Elliott Subject: Re: A wake for William Comments: To: Antoine Maloney To: BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Antoine Maloney wrote: > > Patricia, > > A lovely post about waking Burroughs at his house. Most of us who > have waked parents, family or friends will testify to the wondeful emotions > of it all - at least afted the fact when remembering ourselves rememberibg > washes out the loss. Please tell us who else came by his house. > > Antoine > Voice contact at (514) 933-4956 in Montreal > > "An anarchist is someone who doesn't need a cop to tell him what to do!" > -- Norman Navrotsky and Utah Phillips i have the worst memory in town for names. I also tred on ice as i talk of others mourning and death and visions. I will share what i have written about the day that william died. broken through the ice and drowning. Patricia Around 8:30 at night, I get a call from Wayne Propst, he said," Patricia, William has died. We knew this would happen sooner or later." I ask "when?", He said "a couple of hours ago. he got sick yesterday and l and this evening he was asleep and he just quit breathing" I am alone in the room with him now, James is out making arrangements". I said "your alone with him in his room. Wayne said yes. and I asked what room are you at, his house.? Wayne says no no I am at the hospital in the ICU wing. We got off the phone and I walked around the house, my chest got tighter and tighter , then I told my husband I was going to the hospital. I went up to the ICU wing and asked to be admitted to the room, and Wayne came out and gave me a hug and we went into the room to sit. My body was tight with bands. I entered the room and there was William laid on the bed, in pajamas and I was immediately filled with a sense of peace and my whole body relaxed. I walked over to him and touched his arm. He looked so peaceful and strong. I was flashed back to the day I first met him in Texas, I was sitting in Ohles living room in Austin, he came in and I looked up and said , hell they didn't tell me you were big and strong, he chuckled , sat down and we started talking right off. Seeing him on the bed he looked strong again, he was straight , he didn't look frail and a little hunched over like he had these last few years. His corpse looked younger and strong. It was eerie. His pallor was a steel grey color, his head dominant, his body looked full again, thin, solid, his great beak with his bald head ( little down of hair) looked completely at peace and relaxed. I felt his presence there. he was always a gracious host. We sat down and Wayne who is the most reliable person to tell a story, talked. James came in the room and we hugged and then James turned to William and clasped him crying and sobbing in the most utterly broken hearted way. I had never seen James more beautiful. I thought, god, James was son and father to William. The love and respect that I had observed between those two over the years flashed through my thoughts like bursting series of lights. We sat and talked about William, how he was fine and feeling good on Thursday, and that he had been writing about losing his beloved Fletch. Fletch died two weeks ago. I thought of how much William relished life and how interested he always was in these certain subjects. . By now PT, Bill Rich, James, Wayne and I were there. Ohle and McCrary were out of town, we tried to call Fred and there was no answer. They decided to have someone go and tell George personallly in the early morning. Dean Ripa came into the room, he was visiting William this week, he acted irrational and said silly things. I decided to go up and hug him with hopes that it would quiet him. James got up and then sat on his knees by williams' bed. His arms over William. I felt like it was a series of saying good bye. I said that I would go and watch over Williams house, I really wanted Dean to go back and do that but he said he would do that later. I went over to William and kissed him on the cheek, it felt very natural, I always liked kissing William. I went and sat in Williams drive way, this was around 12:30, clear, warm, summer night. Some one come up and placed a bouquet on the porch. I started crying there in the dark feeling sorry for myself because I knew I would miss him so much. I had this strong sense that he wasn't gone yet. I went to Dillons and brought two lavender roses and came back and placed them on Williams porch, sit there for a while and stroked ginger. (Williams' old puck faced orange alley cat). << end of forwarded material >> From babel-list-owner Sat Aug 9 19:16:41 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id TAA01146 for babel-list-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 19:16:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from acs-mail.bu.edu (root@ACS-MAIL.BU.EDU [128.197.153.100]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id TAA01141 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 19:16:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp1.bu.edu (PPP-76-24.BU.EDU [128.197.7.204]) by acs-mail.bu.edu (8.8.5/BU_Server-1.3) with ESMTP id WAA56196 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 22:15:32 -0400 Message-ID: <33ED2422.7CE5CD9B@bu.edu> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 1997 22:14:59 -0400 From: JP Jacob X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: Re: http://www.postmodern.com/.../babel-list.9708 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199708091605.JAA08581@mail.inreach.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ 364327 - Marry Gregg wrote: > gosh... another obsession (this site)... (just what i need!...) > i found this site while helping my son research the aftermath of > patti's summerstage concert... we were on a trip to new york and > saw the show totally by accident!... just by being in the right > place...etc... > (any of you out there still believe that "accident" / "right place at > right time" stuff?)... > he began research for his zine and i helped (kind of like shake 'n > bake)... > now i "find myself" in kansas (visiting same son)... and burroughs is > gone... > burroughs was / is the reason my mom came frighteningly close to > snatching me out of that "one class / teacher in high school" that > actually taught us something... (that in some cases changed our lives) > > the teacher wanted me to read naked lunch... my mom didn't!... > i did... so there!... > now i'm the "teacher" (first waldorf position begins 1/98)... and will > begin > the process of "spoonfeeding" the great writers of the 20th century > and beyond... burroughs will be there!... > ahhh... the freedom of private education... > mgcg That's some interesting mix, Burroughs and Steiner. I don't know... John -- jpjacob@bu.edu Photographic Resource Center at Boston University http://web.bu.edu/PRC From babel-list-owner Sun Aug 10 10:51:22 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id KAA04250 for babel-list-outgoing; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 10:51:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from gemini.smart.net (gemini.smart.net [206.27.242.109]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id KAA04245 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 10:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [0.0.0.0.] (fi.smart.net [205.219.246.223]) by gemini.smart.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA23960 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 13:51:37 -0400 Message-Id: <199708101751.NAA23960@gemini.smart.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Fiona Webster" Organization: http://www.oceanstar.com To: babel-list@postmodern.com Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 13:37:28 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: news from BMG Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I just heard from Chris Blake, who works for BMG music, Arista's distributor: > Subject: She's back. > > New album ...maybe September. > > Patti Smith > >-10 tracks on the album. > >-"Dead City" > >-"Waiting Underground" (very Neil Young sounding track). > >-"1959" (about the take over of Tibet and a recapping of the years' >events) . > >-"Whirl Away" (rhythmic=moving). > >-PBS Session Studio 54 airs 9/27. > >-Tour begins on West Coast, dates to be announced. --Fiona From babel-list-owner Sun Aug 10 11:14:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id LAA04329 for babel-list-outgoing; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 11:14:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id LAA04324 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 11:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [205.134.227.16] (ppp016-sf1.sirius.net [205.134.227.16]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.8.7/Sirius-8.8.7-97.08.04) with ESMTP id LAA15796 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 11:14:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: michael@pop.sirius.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199708090019.TAA17645@natasha.eden.com> References: <3.0.1.32.19970808142131.006a0fec@pop.ihug.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 11:22:16 -0700 To: babel-list@postmodern.com From: zab & mike Subject: a bargain for sf babellers... Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ booksmith on haight has a hardcover copy of _early works_ remaindered (!!??!) for $5.99. .02, zab From babel-list-owner Sun Aug 10 11:20:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id LAA04380 for babel-list-outgoing; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 11:20:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from emout06.mail.aol.com (emout06.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.97]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id LAA04375 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 11:20:27 -0700 (PDT) From: TMPJAccas@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id OAA28758 for babel-list@postmodern.com; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 14:19:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 14:19:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970810141952_165895692@emout06.mail.aol.com> To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: Re: a bargain for sf babellers... Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ WHATS THE ADDRESS FOR THE BOOKSMITH SITE!!!!!!!!! thanks~~Mike From babel-list-owner Sun Aug 10 11:44:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id LAA04438 for babel-list-outgoing; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 11:44:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id LAA04433 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 11:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [205.134.227.16] (ppp016-sf1.sirius.net [205.134.227.16]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.8.7/Sirius-8.8.7-97.08.04) with ESMTP id LAA16621 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 11:44:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: michael@pop.sirius.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <970810141952_165895692@emout06.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 11:52:10 -0700 To: babel-list@postmodern.com From: zab & mike Subject: Re: a bargain for sf babellers... Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ >WHATS THE ADDRESS FOR THE BOOKSMITH SITE!!!!!!!!! >thanks~~Mike whoops. i forgot that. the street address is 1644 haight, sf ca 94117 ph # is 415-863-8688 and i did a search for a website, & it is http://www.booksmith.com/ they do have the p.smith book listed under the sale books. act quickly- there was only one! -zab -- "i'd give anything just to have that dream again." -mike story From babel-list-owner Sun Aug 10 23:40:30 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id XAA00127 for babel-list-outgoing; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 23:40:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from tir.com (sun.tir.com [205.138.41.6]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id OAA04671 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 14:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jswanson.tir.com (war75.tir.com [205.218.87.214]) by tir.com (8.7.5/8.7) with ESMTP id RAA22254 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 17:09:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33EE2DC6.9FE92AC1@tir.com> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 17:08:26 -0400 From: Jenifer Swanson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babel-list@postmodern.com Subject: PBS Sessions URL X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199708101751.NAA23960@gemini.smart.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I accidently deleted this URL from my bookmarks and now can't find the site. Can anybody help? Thanks jenifer From babel-list-owner Sun Aug 10 23:57:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) id XAA00405 for babel-list-outgoing; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 23:57:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: server.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail.inreach.com (mail.inreach.com [205.138.224.216]) by server.postmodern.com (8.8.5/mcb-960422) with ESMTP id XAA00400 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 23:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [205.138.251.43] (ppp4043.stk.inreach.net [205.138.251.43]) by mail.inreach.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/(InReach)) with SMTP id UAA04810 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 20:15:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: merryg@mail.inreach.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 20:20:47 +0100 To: babel-list@postmodern.com From: merryg@inreach.com (Merry Gregg) Subject: Re: http://www.postmodern.com/.../babel-list.9708 Sender: owner-babel-list@postmodern.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: babel-list@postmodern.com X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.93 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ >That's some interesting mix, Burroughs and Steiner. I don't know... > >John >-- >jpjacob@bu.edu >Photographic Resource Center at Boston University >http://web.bu.edu/PRC really!... wouldn't you have liked to have been a fly on the wall if a discussion between those two had ever thaken place!... although they probably weren't as far apart as our perceptions of them might imply... hum... merry From babel-list-owner Mon Aug 11 06:47:54 1997 Received: (from majordom@localh